ALL ABOARD The Shonn Greene Train! (1 Viewer)

[benm3218]

I always hate when a guy gets hurt. Sorry Leon is done. And it looked real bad. Done for the year.

But, I have Greene on my team just waiting and he looked incredible today. Go to NFL.com and watch the highlights if you missed it.

T. Jones is 32 and has a contract that demands trade or cut next year. Enter - Shonn Greene the BEAST stud.

 

[benm3218]

HIghlights in case you missed it - http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...eene-highlights

 

[zed2283]

woohoo!!!

 

[two_dollars]

I always hate when a guy gets hurt. Sorry Leon is done. And it looked real bad. Done for the year.But, I have Greene on my team just waiting and he looked incredible today. Go to NFL.com and watch the highlights if you missed it.T. Jones is 32 and has a contract that demands trade or cut next year. Enter - Shonn Greene the BEAST stud.

this must be a dynasty thread.

 

[Young 8]

Train is leaving the station

all aboard

 

[mcd]

I always hate when a guy gets hurt. Sorry Leon is done. And it looked real bad. Done for the year.But, I have Greene on my team just waiting and he looked incredible today. Go to NFL.com and watch the highlights if you missed it.T. Jones is 32 and has a contract that demands trade or cut next year. Enter - Shonn Greene the BEAST stud.

Is Jones salary really that bad? He's due 2.8 million in salary plus another 3 million as a roster bonus. Is 5.8 million out of whack with starting RBs? I've got Greene really cheap in a keep 4 auction league, but I'm not really sold that Thomas Jones is going to be dumped before next season.

 

[Reaper]

He did look pretty good....

 

[everydayj]

I'm thinking of using my #1 waiver pick on the guy in a redraft league. If he ends up playing with the same share that Leon had, he could be a really solid value.

 

[packersfan]

I'm thinking of using my #1 waiver pick on the guy in a redraft league. If he ends up playing with the same share that Leon had, he could be a really solid value.

I'm giving serious thought to dropping Donald Brown and making a run at Greene this week. If Brown's shoulder injury is serious, I'm definitely making the move.

 

[Mikey16x]

Greene was running extremely hard... I was cringing when defenders were getting in his way, you heard every time they made contact with him. I'm sold.

 

[benm3218]

I'm thinking of using my #1 waiver pick on the guy in a redraft league. If he ends up playing with the same share that Leon had, he could be a really solid value.

He's better than Leon. Leon is a change of pace back. Greene has it all.

 

[MCguidance]

Gotta put the breaks on the bus here a bit.

Ran really well today but it wont be often that these two guys get 45 for 365 and 3 TDs. And play the Raiders.

I like this kid when they drafted him, runs low, hard, and thought his lack of "break away speed" was a bit overstated, but I do think Jones will see the bulk here. I do think, however, that he will see his touches per game now. He looks to be a bit quicker than Jones, but it remains to see how he blocks.

 

[benm3218]

Is it just me or does he remind you of Jones Drew just a bit with his running style?

 

[Mikey16x]

Is it just me or does he remind you of Jones Drew just a bit with his running style?

Not really at all... I think it seems that way because of his lack of height and weight ratio. Greene is listed at 5'11 but can easily be 5'10 so he's stocky, similar to the frame of MJD. Greene doesn't really make as many moves as MJD, we obviously haven't seen all the weapons in Greene's arsenal yet but he looks like a one cut back... then he hits you in the mouth.

 

[benm3218]

Is it just me or does he remind you of Jones Drew just a bit with his running style?

Not really at all... I think it seems that way because of his lack of height and weight ratio. Greene is listed at 5'11 but can easily be 5'10 so he's stocky, similar to the frame of MJD. Greene doesn't really make as many moves as MJD, we obviously haven't seen all the weapons in Greene's arsenal yet but he looks like a one cut back... then he hits you in the mouth.

Oh so he is smaller stocky back who runs hard and hits you in the mouth...... not at all like MJD....

 

[MCguidance]

Is it just me or does he remind you of Jones Drew just a bit with his running style?

Not really at all... I think it seems that way because of his lack of height and weight ratio. Greene is listed at 5'11 but can easily be 5'10 so he's stocky, similar to the frame of MJD. Greene doesn't really make as many moves as MJD, we obviously haven't seen all the weapons in Greene's arsenal yet but he looks like a one cut back... then he hits you in the mouth.

Oh so he is smaller stocky back who runs hard and hits you in the mouth...... not at all like MJD....

Ben I wish you were right, but it's too early to draw comparisons, even to his running style which I would say does not look like MJD at this point.

 

[benm3218]

well I am very high on Greene right bow. How many RB's do you know who played into 32 or 33 yrs old?

Dynasty wise I think Greene is a real stud.

 

[PantherPower]

his build made me think of Turner for some reason...

 

[PantherPower]

anyone have the to start Greene next week?

 

[njherdfan]

I always hate when a guy gets hurt. Sorry Leon is done. And it looked real bad. Done for the year.But, I have Greene on my team just waiting and he looked incredible today. Go to NFL.com and watch the highlights if you missed it.T. Jones is 32 and has a contract that demands trade or cut next year. Enter - Shonn Greene the BEAST stud.

Is Jones salary really that bad? He's due 2.8 million in salary plus another 3 million as a roster bonus. Is 5.8 million out of whack with starting RBs? I've got Greene really cheap in a keep 4 auction league, but I'm not really sold that Thomas Jones is going to be dumped before next season.

5.8 million isn't out of whack, but when you consider the fact that the Jets will want to resign Edwards, and extend Mangold and D'brick, they're going to be looking to save as much money as possible, and Greene looked good today, and he's supposed to be the same type of player as Jones. I'm not sure if Leon will be back next year, which might necessitate getting a new 3rd down back, but I can't see Jones coming back if Greene stays healthy and keeps running well.

 

[Mikey16x]

anyone have the to start Greene next week?

I'm probably going to take a flier on him because I have the room now that my BYE's are almost done.. but to start him would take a serious pair of mellow faces.

 

[schurov]

his build made me think of Turner for some reason...

Exactly my thoughts. He looked like Turner yesterday, very similar build and style. Interesting to see how he's going to produce against a stout Miami defense.

 

[UnknownCoach]

Gotta put the breaks on the bus here a bit.Ran really well today but it wont be often that these two guys get 45 for 365 and 3 TDs. And play the Raiders.I like this kid when they drafted him, runs low, hard, and thought his lack of "break away speed" was a bit overstated, but I do think Jones will see the bulk here. I do think, however, that he will see his touches per game now. He looks to be a bit quicker than Jones, but it remains to see how he blocks.

The Jets have a great line and Oakland still sucks at tackling. I dont know if Greene will get as many carries as Washington did. He might, but the Jets had this game in hand in the first quarter. Jones is old but how much do they want to rely on Greene in a close game?

 

[pantherclub]

Is it just me or does he remind you of Jones Drew just a bit with his running style?

Not really at all... I think it seems that way because of his lack of height and weight ratio. Greene is listed at 5'11 but can easily be 5'10 so he's stocky, similar to the frame of MJD. Greene doesn't really make as many moves as MJD, we obviously haven't seen all the weapons in Greene's arsenal yet but he looks like a one cut back... then he hits you in the mouth.

He reminded me of Emmitt Smith by the way he hit the hole and was gone. I am trying to figure out how much value he has playing behind TJones? He definitely is not a starter in fantasy unless Jones gets hurt but he may not be a bad bye week fill in. I dont see him getting that many carries often from here on out. It may be sporadic.

 

[thekidd2009]

I've heard that Rex Ryan really likes him and I always liked him in college. I'm not sure how this will go but the guy looked really good yesterday (albeit the raiders) and i've always thought Thomas Jones is not that impressive.

 

[rascal]

He will still be the backup to Thomas Jones, and don't see him as being a good of receiving threat as Washington.

 

[packersfan]

He will still be the backup to Thomas Jones, and don't see him as being a good of receiving threat as Washington.

Neither do I but I think he could get more rushing attempts than Washington and some goal-line looks as well. I could see him averaging double-digit carries most weeks and getting the occasional goal-line look. I think his role in the rushing attack will be much more consistent than Washington's was - especially if the Jets continue to believe they need to run the ball heavily to protect Sanchez (which I think is very likely).

 

[Bills Fan]

While I appreciate the hype, in a non-dynasty league I do not see him as more than back up to Jones, who BTW, is a top - 5 back in most leagues FF wise. From an NFL perspective, he has been solid as well and gives Sanchez a verteran presence. DO you really think Ryan would replace Jones?

 

[MCguidance]

While I appreciate the hype, in a non-dynasty league I do not see him as more than back up to Jones, who BTW, is a top - 5 back in most leagues FF wise. From an NFL perspective, he has been solid as well and gives Sanchez a verteran presence. DO you really think Ryan would replace Jones?

Agreed that he will not replace Jones barring injury. Let's also not forget, however, that it takes a special circumstance for a runner to see 30 touches a game, nevermind every game. There is room for Green to carve a niche here. You can also remember that Greene is very fresh, barely used the first 7 weeks of the season. He will no doubt be used in some capacity and will see the majority of Washington's carries and maybe a few short yardage looks. He is not going to catch many passes, but he will see at least 8 carries a game, and I think that's his floor. An injury to Jones and you will see Ryan Grant of 2007 (not running style wise, but merely impact). This kid can play - it's about picking up the blitz and doing what he is asked to do well. At this time it will be to spell Jones, not lose yardage, and protect a rookie QB when asked. All of this, of course, is in reference to redraft.

 

[sdsjr3]

While I appreciate the hype, in a non-dynasty league I do not see him as more than back up to Jones, who BTW, is a top - 5 back in most leagues FF wise. From an NFL perspective, he has been solid as well and gives Sanchez a verteran presence. DO you really think Ryan would replace Jones?

No, Jone will not be replaced. HOWEVER...Greene showed enough yesterday that he will be trusted to spell TJ. That could lead to some "decent" fantasy value in these days of RBBC.

 

[Reaper]

While I appreciate the hype, in a non-dynasty league I do not see him as more than back up to Jones, who BTW, is a top - 5 back in most leagues FF wise. From an NFL perspective, he has been solid as well and gives Sanchez a verteran presence. DO you really think Ryan would replace Jones?

Agreed that he will not replace Jones barring injury. Let's also not forget, however, that it takes a special circumstance for a runner to see 30 touches a game, nevermind every game. There is room for Green to carve a niche here. You can also remember that Greene is very fresh, barely used the first 7 weeks of the season. He will no doubt be used in some capacity and will see the majority of Washington's carries and maybe a few short yardage looks. He is not going to catch many passes, but he will see at least 8 carries a game, and I think that's his floor. An injury to Jones and you will see Ryan Grant of 2007 (not running style wise, but merely impact). This kid can play - it's about picking up the blitz and doing what he is asked to do well. At this time it will be to spell Jones, not lose yardage, and protect a rookie QB when asked. All of this, of course, is in reference to redraft.

The weather is turning, It's the time of the year to run.The Jets are punching themselves in the head for not running MORE recently.Remember Rex is from Baltimore and how the belief was that they wanted to run as close to 500 times as possible....

 

[MCguidance]

While I appreciate the hype, in a non-dynasty league I do not see him as more than back up to Jones, who BTW, is a top - 5 back in most leagues FF wise. From an NFL perspective, he has been solid as well and gives Sanchez a verteran presence. DO you really think Ryan would replace Jones?

Agreed that he will not replace Jones barring injury. Let's also not forget, however, that it takes a special circumstance for a runner to see 30 touches a game, nevermind every game. There is room for Green to carve a niche here. You can also remember that Greene is very fresh, barely used the first 7 weeks of the season. He will no doubt be used in some capacity and will see the majority of Washington's carries and maybe a few short yardage looks. He is not going to catch many passes, but he will see at least 8 carries a game, and I think that's his floor. An injury to Jones and you will see Ryan Grant of 2007 (not running style wise, but merely impact). This kid can play - it's about picking up the blitz and doing what he is asked to do well. At this time it will be to spell Jones, not lose yardage, and protect a rookie QB when asked. All of this, of course, is in reference to redraft.

The weather is turning, It's the time of the year to run.The Jets are punching themselves in the head for not running MORE recently.Remember Rex is from Baltimore and how the belief was that they wanted to run as close to 500 times as possible....

Great points - throwing the ball is not only absent from what I believe is Rex's gameplan (pound the ball), it's also generally less conducive to winning in the meadlowlands in the latter half of the season.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Gotta put the breaks on the bus here a bit.Ran really well today but it wont be often that these two guys get 45 for 365 and 3 TDs. And play the Raiders.I like this kid when they drafted him, runs low, hard, and thought his lack of "break away speed" was a bit overstated, but I do think Jones will see the bulk here. I do think, however, that he will see his touches per game now. He looks to be a bit quicker than Jones, but it remains to see how he blocks.

As a dynasty owner and serious lover of all things Greene, I agree with this. The best I'm thinking we can hope for is a Jonathan Stewart share the load. Man, I do love how this guy runs though. Can't wait for Thomas Jones to get out of the way but that won't happen until 2010 at best.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Greene looked better in this game than he did in college.

<insert joke about Raiders vs college teams here>

Anyway, the Jets have a great O-line and I would be excited about him in a Keeper/Dynasty league.

 

[Buckna]

I always hate when a guy gets hurt. Sorry Leon is done. And it looked real bad. Done for the year.But, I have Greene on my team just waiting and he looked incredible today. Go to NFL.com and watch the highlights if you missed it.T. Jones is 32 and has a contract that demands trade or cut next year. Enter - Shonn Greene the BEAST stud.

Is Jones salary really that bad? He's due 2.8 million in salary plus another 3 million as a roster bonus. Is 5.8 million out of whack with starting RBs? I've got Greene really cheap in a keep 4 auction league, but I'm not really sold that Thomas Jones is going to be dumped before next season.

5.8 million isn't out of whack, but when you consider the fact that the Jets will want to resign Edwards, and extend Mangold and D'brick, they're going to be looking to save as much money as possible, and Greene looked good today, and he's supposed to be the same type of player as Jones. I'm not sure if Leon will be back next year, which might necessitate getting a new 3rd down back, but I can't see Jones coming back if Greene stays healthy and keeps running well.

Many people believe next year will be an uncapped year. If that is so, Braylon becomes a RFA and stays a Jet for cheap. More importantly, fitting in under the Salary Cap is no longer a concern for 2010.

 

[Hedgehog]

Good young defense...check

good OL......check

Coach who loves to pound the ball...check

Young QB who the coach doesn't want to do too much...check

solid but aging RB ahead of him....check

nice schedule down the stretch...check

Cold NE weather football....check

Greene is in a great position - could be a nice #3 or even a #2 RB by the season end with even higher upside in keeper/dynasty leagues. TJ will get his and is a #1 right now - but coach doesnt want to fry him so I think Greene will get 15 touches per game. Think of him as a J Stewart type of role - you dont want to depend on him but could plug him in if needed.

As for 2010 and beyond - Rumor is TJ is gone next year and it will be Greene's job - keeper/dynasty leagues enjoy thisyear cause ts gravy - 2010 is where he will move into stud territory.

 

[packersfan]

While I appreciate the hype, in a non-dynasty league I do not see him as more than back up to Jones, who BTW, is a top - 5 back in most leagues FF wise. From an NFL perspective, he has been solid as well and gives Sanchez a verteran presence. DO you really think Ryan would replace Jones?

Agreed that he will not replace Jones barring injury. Let's also not forget, however, that it takes a special circumstance for a runner to see 30 touches a game, nevermind every game. There is room for Green to carve a niche here. You can also remember that Greene is very fresh, barely used the first 7 weeks of the season. He will no doubt be used in some capacity and will see the majority of Washington's carries and maybe a few short yardage looks. He is not going to catch many passes, but he will see at least 8 carries a game, and I think that's his floor. An injury to Jones and you will see Ryan Grant of 2007 (not running style wise, but merely impact). This kid can play - it's about picking up the blitz and doing what he is asked to do well. At this time it will be to spell Jones, not lose yardage, and protect a rookie QB when asked. All of this, of course, is in reference to redraft.

The weather is turning, It's the time of the year to run.The Jets are punching themselves in the head for not running MORE recently.Remember Rex is from Baltimore and how the belief was that they wanted to run as close to 500 times as possible....

The key element for me is Sanchez. He isn't playing very well. Last season, Flacco managed the game effectively and yet the Ravens still ran it a ton. This season, Sanchez isn't managing the game effectively lately so that could result in even more rushing attempts to protect him. Jones can't get them all. If the Jets become a team that wants to run it 30-35 times a game, than Greene is going to have a nice role and perhaps a significant one. The important thing to remember is that with their offensive line, the Jets will be able to run on most teams they play so they will almost always have positive potential for rushing production. The caveat is keeping the game close. If they fall behind, then I would expect Greene's role to diminish because, unlike Washington (and Jones), he doesn't appear to be a threat in the passing game. Let's take a look at the Jets' upcoming schedule:Week 8: vs. MiamiWeek 9: ByeWeek 10: vs. JacksonvilleWeek 11: at New EnglandWeek 12: vs. CarolinaIn the next five weeks, I only see one potentially tough matchup and that's next week. However, the Miami defense got roughed up late by Mike Bell yesterday and considering the strength of the Jets' offensive line, I'm not sure it's a matchup to be feared - especially since it has the appearance of a game that should be close. As for the playoff schedule:Week 14: at Tampa BayWeek 15: vs. AtlantaWeek 16: at IndianapolisThat looks pretty appealing to me with the exception of the Colts game which will likely see the Jets playing from behind, potentially lowering Green's value significantly.

 

[jon_mx]

I picked him up yesterday....but then when i say Beanie Wells still out there, I dropped Shonn.

 

[footballnerd]

Leon avg'd about 11 rushes a game. Do you see Greene getting that many and what could he do with it?

 

[Bad_Mo]

I refuse to jump on until Shonn, in a Chad Johnson-esque manner, changes his name to Shawn...or even Sean for that matter.

 

[KCC]

I actually think the kid is going to be an outstanding back, but I think having him on your fantasy team this year might cause some headaches. He could very easily become one of those "do-I-start-him-this-week" players who light it up when they are on your bench and kill your fantasy score when you start them.

 

[MCguidance]

I refuse to jump on until Shonn, in a Chad Johnson-esque manner, changes his name to Shawn...or even Sean for that matter.

Yeah, and I think all Geoffs to Jeff, Micheals to Michael, Nichole to Nicole, Cris to Chris....It's a cultural thing. I doubt many here would care if it had six N's as long as he produces.

 

[pantherclub]

If you have the balls to start Greene during your playoff run then God Bless You. If you are in the position were you have to start Greene then I seriously doubt you are in playoff contention anyway.

 

[CrossEyed]

If you have the balls to start Greene during your playoff run then God Bless You. If you are in the position were you have to start Greene then I seriously doubt you are in playoff contention anyway.

Pretty early to determine what his role might be in another 8 weeks, wouldn't you say?

 

[pantherclub]

If you have the balls to start Greene during your playoff run then God Bless You. If you are in the position were you have to start Greene then I seriously doubt you are in playoff contention anyway.

Pretty early to determine what his role might be in another 8 weeks, wouldn't you say?

I am 100% certain he is not going to beat out TJones for the starters role this year. Jones is just playing way to good for that to happen. Plus the fact that I doubt they are going to trust a rookie to lead them to a potential playoff berth. Therefor I see Shawn getting roughly 10-15 carries at most a game. So if you want to roll the dice and start him based on the limited carries then knock yourself out but it just not a smart move in fantasy. However if Jones gets hurt................

 

[Casting Couch]

I refuse to jump on until Shonn, in a Chad Johnson-esque manner, changes his name to Shawn...or even Sean for that matter.

Chone ?

 

[packersfan]

Therefor I see Shawn getting roughly 10-15 carries at most a game. So if you want to roll the dice and start him based on the limited carries then knock yourself out but it just not a smart move in fantasy.

A RB getting 10-15 carries a game has flex value in many (if not most) leagues. I'd say that's a player worthy of starting consideration.

 

[CrossEyed]

If you have the balls to start Greene during your playoff run then God Bless You. If you are in the position were you have to start Greene then I seriously doubt you are in playoff contention anyway.

Pretty early to determine what his role might be in another 8 weeks, wouldn't you say?

I am 100% certain

You lost me right here.

 

[steelwind]

NYJ offensive line has produced back to back 300+ yard rushing games with a rookie QB. I will take my chances on Greene.

 

[pantherclub]

If you have the balls to start Greene during your playoff run then God Bless You. If you are in the position were you have to start Greene then I seriously doubt you are in playoff contention anyway.

Pretty early to determine what his role might be in another 8 weeks, wouldn't you say?

I am 100% certain

You lost me right here.

Do you honestly think that Greene has even the slightest chance this year to unseat Jones as the #1 on the team? Honestly?