All-play dynasty leagues? (1 Viewer)

[coolnerd]

A couple of guys in leagues that I commish have expressed interest in an all play league (or maybe total points). Despite playing in a gazillion leagues, I am not a dynasty with that format, so I don't have a good feel the adjustments needed. Not made up my mind, but would like to see what's out there.

 

[BeTheMatch]

A couple of guys in leagues that I commish have expressed interest in an all play league (or maybe total points). Despite playing in a gazillion leagues, I am not a dynasty with that format, so I don't have a good feel the adjustments needed. Not made up my mind, but would like to see what's out there.

I don't know what other rules would be pertinent to you. You just play every other team each week head-to-head. So in a 12-man league, your record each week would range from 11-0 to 0-11.In my league, six teams make the playoffs, with the top two teams getting first-round byes. So the four wild cards all play against each other in Week 14, with the top two scores advancing to Week 15. In Week 15, those two advancing teams take on the two teams that had first-round byes, again in a four-way play all. The top two scores from Week 15 advance to Week 16 where we finally have the first true head-to-head matchup for the title.I know some other all-play leagues do their playoffs a little different.

 

[coolnerd]

A couple of guys in leagues that I commish have expressed interest in an all play league (or maybe total points). Despite playing in a gazillion leagues, I am not a dynasty with that format, so I don't have a good feel the adjustments needed. Not made up my mind, but would like to see what's out there.

I don't know what other rules would be pertinent to you. You just play every other team each week head-to-head. So in a 12-man league, your record each week would range from 11-0 to 0-11.In my league, six teams make the playoffs, with the top two teams getting first-round byes. So the four wild cards all play against each other in Week 14, with the top two scores advancing to Week 15. In Week 15, those two advancing teams take on the two teams that had first-round byes, again in a four-way play all. The top two scores from Week 15 advance to Week 16 where we finally have the first true head-to-head matchup for the title.I know some other all-play leagues do their playoffs a little different.

This type of info is what I was looking for, thanks.

 

[GottaBohlieve]

Hey Match,

Which site to you guys use to run your league? Trying to figure out which site we should use to run a similar league. Thanks for your help.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Hey Match,Which site to you guys use to run your league? Trying to figure out which site we should use to run a similar league. Thanks for your help.

MFL. They have one simple box you can check to be an all-play league, and it does the rest for you. The only thing you need to handle is the playoffs, which have to be done "manually" in our league since it's the top two scores out of four teams in a play-all round advancing.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

This sounds interesting, as I imagine it takes out almost all of the luck factor from the regular fantasy league, and makes the team with the best record really the best team.

 

[BeTheMatch]

This sounds interesting, as I imagine it takes out almost all of the luck factor from the regular fantasy league, and makes the team with the best record really the best team.

That's the idea anyway. It's not fair that one team gets to play another team while his studs are on a bye but you don't. And it's stupid when you have the second-highest score of the week but lose because you just happen to play the highest-scoring team that week - it's not like you can play defense in fantasy football - while someone else that same week gets a win when they had the second-lowest total but played the team with the lowest total that week.In standard H2H leagues, the teams with the best records usually have one thing in common: the lowest points against total, something they have no control over.

 

[FantasyTrader]

PM me. I'll send you the link with the password. We are a total points league and play through week 21 (the SB). Every point counts.

 

[Ducegonads]

I'm interested as well. I've been a dynasty player for 15 years now and I couldn't be happier but this would be perfect for the work league I run. Are their any additional sites that allow "All Play" leagues? Are there any free sites for this type of league.

 

[gliz]

Just bumping this to repeat the question Ducegonads asked:

Are there any sites other than MFL that support the All-Play format?

 

[Shutout]

I don't know of any sites that make it simpler than MFL. It is literally a "one click" option and it's done. Set it and forget it.

I have a couple of leagues that have been gravitating towards this for a few years now so we spent some time comparing which teams would be seeded where/in and out of the playoffs, etc, under the traditional formats and then as all-play.

What we have come to find is if you have a league where the owners are more interested in the best teams making the playoffs, then all-play is the way to go. It is so much more accurate in which teams deserved to be there vs. the guy that caught Murphy's law over and over.

One caveat to all-play is you really need owners with "best interest of the league best representing". If you are in a league with people adverse to change and like that "feeling of playing against someone", then it won't fly. All-play can very quickly separate the contenders from the bottom so you have to be willing to accept that you could be qualified (or eliminated) by week 9 and you have to know whether your owners are invested enough to stay active throughout.

 

[pizzatyme]

Does MFL have a best-ball dynasty format? I'd love to get a league going like this.

 

[Dezbelief]

Just bumping this to repeat the question Ducegonads asked:

Are there any sites other than MFL that support the All-Play format?

FleaFlicker has H2H, total points and Roto options. I'm not sure what Roto is.

 

[coolnerd]

Just bumping this to repeat the question Ducegonads asked:

Are there any sites other than MFL that support the All-Play format?

I don't know myself

 

[coolnerd]

I don't know of any sites that make it simpler than MFL. It is literally a "one click" option and it's done. Set it and forget it.

I have a couple of leagues that have been gravitating towards this for a few years now so we spent some time comparing which teams would be seeded where/in and out of the playoffs, etc, under the traditional formats and then as all-play.

What we have come to find is if you have a league where the owners are more interested in the best teams making the playoffs, then all-play is the way to go. It is so much more accurate in which teams deserved to be there vs. the guy that caught Murphy's law over and over.

One caveat to all-play is you really need owners with "best interest of the league best representing". If you are in a league with people adverse to change and like that "feeling of playing against someone", then it won't fly. All-play can very quickly separate the contenders from the bottom so you have to be willing to accept that you could be qualified (or eliminated) by week 9 and you have to know whether your owners are invested enough to stay active throughout.

I don't know of any sites that make it simpler than MFL. It is literally a "one click" option and it's done. Set it and forget it.

I have a couple of leagues that have been gravitating towards this for a few years now so we spent some time comparing which teams would be seeded where/in and out of the playoffs, etc, under the traditional formats and then as all-play.

What we have come to find is if you have a league where the owners are more interested in the best teams making the playoffs, then all-play is the way to go. It is so much more accurate in which teams deserved to be there vs. the guy that caught Murphy's law over and over.

One caveat to all-play is you really need owners with "best interest of the league best representing". If you are in a league with people adverse to change and like that "feeling of playing against someone", then it won't fly. All-play can very quickly separate the contenders from the bottom so you have to be willing to accept that you could be qualified (or eliminated) by week 9 and you have to know whether your owners are invested enough to stay active throughout.

I have found that in a 12 team that most 95 plus percent of the time the top 4 teams make the playoffs. Format and league structure have seemed to matter more with the last 2 couple of spots. In the all=play I eventually started, we made the playoff format and draft position dependent on the three week run (14-16). this kept everyone involved and made for a wild playoff finish.

 

[coolnerd]

Oh, I do have a couple of openings in the All-play league, I just spoke about

 

[Monty Burns]

Does MFL have a best-ball dynasty format? I'd love to get a league going like this.

Yes, I have run a best ball Dynasty there for about 8 years now....

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

A couple of guys in leagues that I commish have expressed interest in an all play league (or maybe total points). Despite playing in a gazillion leagues, I am not a dynasty with that format, so I don't have a good feel the adjustments needed. Not made up my mind, but would like to see what's out there.

In my 14 team league I split the prize money roughly 50/50 between top-5 total points and the six playoff teams.

I also changed the VP settings so that a H2H win is only worth one, while your all-play finish each week is worth 0-1-2. That means that 2/3rds of the VPs each week are awarded on the basis of all-play record.

In addition, I made all-play the first standings tie-breaker after VPs.

It has most of the same effect as going to all-play, but still uses H2H. And with this setup it's very unlikely that a bad team makes the playoffs or takes down a ton of prize money.

 

[gliz]

Thanks for all the feedback. I think it's time for me to move forward with MFL, as it seems to be in a class unto itself from what I am hearing. The customization options will give me lots to nerd out on ahead of the season.

Thanks!

 

[gliz]

I have found that in a 12 team that most 95 plus percent of the time the top 4 teams make the playoffs. Format and league structure have seemed to matter more with the last 2 couple of spots. In the all=play I eventually started, we made the playoff format and draft position dependent on the three week run (14-16). this kept everyone involved and made for a wild playoff finish.

I am always interested in gathering ideas about keeping owners interested after they have been eliminated from playoff contention.

I am uncertain what you mean by the "playoff format" being "dependent on the three week run (14-16)." Draft position I get, but are you saying you seeded the playoffs based upon the results of weeks 14-16 (and if so, selecting from those teams that had qualified, or from all teams?).

 

[DeCleater]

Oh, I do have a couple of openings in the All-play league, I just spoke about

I would be interested in a league like that. Email me from Gamebreakers.

 

[Ducegonads]

We ran through RTS this past year and though it worked well during the reg season I had to make adjustments through the playoffs. Overall score would be about an 85 IMO

The response of this 12 team co-worker league was overwhelmingly positive. Everyone got along very well. We avoided the weekly bit#h fest that seems to follow the traditional FF schedule about the winner of a pillow fight actually pulling down a victory versus the only team they could of beaten in the whole league. Trash talk was league wide but it was never single game personal.

The best part was the draft, the final two weeks of the reg season and the finals. The draft went well but we only saw two trades all season. FA moves were pretty huge with all of last seasons injuries. We kept the top 8 for playoffs. To see a 15 game swing take place in two weeks and have a guy go from 10 to 8 in the seeding and make the playoffs by a single game was pretty cool. The playoffs only saw one top 4 team flop and the rest played out pretty true to form with the top two reg season scoring teams playing for the championship.

We have already decided to do it again this year. Game on!

 

[coolnerd]

I have found that in a 12 team that most 95 plus percent of the time the top 4 teams make the playoffs. Format and league structure have seemed to matter more with the last 2 couple of spots. In the all=play I eventually started, we made the playoff format and draft position dependent on the three week run (14-16). this kept everyone involved and made for a wild playoff finish.

I am always interested in gathering ideas about keeping owners interested after they have been eliminated from playoff contention.

I am uncertain what you mean by the "playoff format" being "dependent on the three week run (14-16)." Draft position I get, but are you saying you seeded the playoffs based upon the results of weeks 14-16 (and if so, selecting from those teams that had qualified, or from all teams?).

The playoff teams have three week all-play format. Basically the top 8 teams restart at zero and all play from there.

 

[gliz]

I have found that in a 12 team that most 95 plus percent of the time the top 4 teams make the playoffs. Format and league structure have seemed to matter more with the last 2 couple of spots. In the all=play I eventually started, we made the playoff format and draft position dependent on the three week run (14-16). this kept everyone involved and made for a wild playoff finish.

I am always interested in gathering ideas about keeping owners interested after they have been eliminated from playoff contention.

I am uncertain what you mean by the "playoff format" being "dependent on the three week run (14-16)." Draft position I get, but are you saying you seeded the playoffs based upon the results of weeks 14-16 (and if so, selecting from those teams that had qualified, or from all teams?).

The playoff teams have three week all-play format. Basically the top 8 teams restart at zero and all play from there.

Got it! Thanks for the clarification.

 

[coolnerd]

Oh, I do have a couple of openings in the All-play league, I just spoke about

I would be interested in a league like that. Email me from Gamebreakers.

Gamebreakers acting strangely for me...but I will send you info in the next day or so

 

[KellysHeroes]

I like to join 1 or 2 best ball or all play leagues a yr to change it up