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All the cool kids do mock drafts in December (1 Viewer)

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If the Colts don't draft someone that can help stop the run they are nuts. How many times do they need to get beat by physical offensive lines?
"That's not how our defensive strategy works, we like fast midget DTs and DEs blah blah blah"Polian = geniusPS Russell will not be avail in the 2d round IMO.
 
Other than Troy Smith going 60 picks before he will go in April, it's an excellent mock. Just watch the film on Smith, he throws ducks...he will not be a QB in the NFL, and if he is, he will be terrible...
I've watched three years of Troy and to put it bluntly, you're wrong.
We will find out next fall, stay tuned... :banned:EDIT: I just watched his 2006 highlite tape, he doesn't throw ducks...
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There is no way Green Bay goes WR in round one, unless it's Calvin Johnson. Ted Thompson has found two good WRs in round 2 two straight years (Murphy, Jennings). He'll wait.
FYI - Murphy is no longer on the team. He had a spine injury last year and never rejoined the team.
I'm well aware of that. My point was, he can find talent in round 2 at WR. So, he won't be drafting one in the first, unless it's Johnson.
 
There is no way Green Bay goes WR in round one, unless it's Calvin Johnson. Ted Thompson has found two good WRs in round 2 two straight years (Murphy, Jennings). He'll wait.
FYI - Murphy is no longer on the team. He had a spine injury last year and never rejoined the team.
And, drafting a guard early isn't going to happen either. They're starting three rookies right now. Why would they draft another early?
100% agree
The biggest need is DE. Followed by WR. Then S.
I'd say the biggest need is DE or DT. While we could use a safety, Nick Collins will be just fine once paired with another decent player. Marviel Underwood's injury has really hurt this team, as Marquard Manual clearly isn't the answer. I'd say with an unhappy Al Harris and an aging/injury-prone Charles Woodson, we need a DB before a S. Unless you think Will Blackmon is the future there.
We agree on D line. I think that has to be upgraded, though McCarthy's plan last week to rotate players and keep KGB and Kampan fresh seemed to help. Still lacking seriously at those positions though.As for Harris. He may be gone, but I do like Blackmon if he can recover from his foot injury. Find a guy that might be a 'tweener' saftey/DB, and that might help safeguard against a Harris holdout.
 
There is no way Green Bay goes WR in round one, unless it's Calvin Johnson. Ted Thompson has found two good WRs in round 2 two straight years (Murphy, Jennings). He'll wait.
FYI - Murphy is no longer on the team. He had a spine injury last year and never rejoined the team.
I'm well aware of that. My point was, he can find talent in round 2 at WR. So, he won't be drafting one in the first, unless it's Johnson.
Murphy was one of my favorite players last year, and I was crushed when I saw that hit.I know there are a lot of unattended comments, and I've been bogged down with some finals. I'll be happy to address them all hopefully tomorrow. Thanks for all the feedback so far though! :football:
 
There is no way Green Bay goes WR in round one, unless it's Calvin Johnson. Ted Thompson has found two good WRs in round 2 two straight years (Murphy, Jennings). He'll wait.
FYI - Murphy is no longer on the team. He had a spine injury last year and never rejoined the team.
I'm well aware of that. My point was, he can find talent in round 2 at WR. So, he won't be drafting one in the first, unless it's Johnson.
Murphy was one of my favorite players last year, and I was crushed when I saw that hit.
Same here, that sucked. The only silver lining might be that it landed them Jennings?One other thing to consider in Green Bay. Koren Robinson is a wildcard here. If Thompson thinks Robinson will be back, I could see them waiting a bit for a WR.....
 
There is no way Green Bay goes WR in round one, unless it's Calvin Johnson. Ted Thompson has found two good WRs in round 2 two straight years (Murphy, Jennings). He'll wait.
FYI - Murphy is no longer on the team. He had a spine injury last year and never rejoined the team.
And, drafting a guard early isn't going to happen either. They're starting three rookies right now. Why would they draft another early?
100% agree
The biggest need is DE. Followed by WR. Then S.
I'd say the biggest need is DE or DT. While we could use a safety, Nick Collins will be just fine once paired with another decent player. Marviel Underwood's injury has really hurt this team, as Marquard Manual clearly isn't the answer. I'd say with an unhappy Al Harris and an aging/injury-prone Charles Woodson, we need a DB before a S. Unless you think Will Blackmon is the future there.
We agree on D line. I think that has to be upgraded, though McCarthy's plan last week to rotate players and keep KGB and Kampan fresh seemed to help. Still lacking seriously at those positions though.As for Harris. He may be gone, but I do like Blackmon if he can recover from his foot injury. Find a guy that might be a 'tweener' saftey/DB, and that might help safeguard against a Harris holdout.
I agree with quite a bit of what you two have covered. D-Line help is definitely a need and I think that could be done by focusing on DE which is what I believe to be one their biggest needs. KGB needs some help so he's not out there every down and can focus on just being the pass rush specialist like he is. Green Bay could also really use some WR help, but unless Calvin falls to them I don't see them taking a WR in the 1st. Thompson has done a great job of finding the sleepers in the 2nd/3rd tier of WRs. Harris could make things interesting if they don't extend him. I also like Blackmon's potential a lot, but it's never a bad idea to be deep at DB.I like the committee of Green, Morency and Herron, but depending on how Green's contract situation works out, RB could be a focus. I heard rumors a month ago that Green was in talks about an extension, but I never heard anything after that. I'd really like to see Green Bay get into more of a power running style so I won't be upset if they choose to take one early, or even get a potential stud (AP/Lynch) in the first.O-Line depth is also a good thing to have. I don't see them going O-Line 1st round early, unless by the grace the God Joe Thomas should fall, but I do see Thompson taking a couple more in the early-mid to late rounds for depth.It should be another interesting draft.
 
12Pittsburgh Steelers (6-10) - Justin Blalock, OG Texas – I speeled his naem right, which means I know what I'm talking about. The Steelers will probably pick up right where they left off in '06 (the first part) next year, and as such, they can really afford to draft whomever they want. I look for them to invest in the line because they can't afford any more brain damage to Roethlisberger.44PIT - Aaron Ross, CB Texas
So you see the Steelers losing out? :cry: In any case, there is an excellent chance the Steelers take an offensive lineman with their first pick but not necessarily for the reason you mentioned. Much of the problem with the pass protection has been with the RBs having trouble picking up the blitz and because Ben has been holding on to the ball too long. Don't get me wrong, the o-line could definitely stand to improve their pass blocking but the real concern is the inconsistency of the running game. It doesn't take much for Willie Parker to break one but there have been games this season where the holes were non-existant. The o-line simply must get better and more consistent in their run-blocking. The Steelers have been disappointed with the play of RG Kendall Simmons who was benched for a game or two earlier in the season. Chris Kemoeatu was given an opportunity to start but apparently wasn't any better because the Steelers went back to Simmons and Kemoeatu is frequently on the inactive list on Sunday. If the Steelers do go offensive line in the 1st round, RG is probably where they will go. C Jeff Hartings will probably retire after this season but the Steelers already have Chukki Okobi ready to go and it is very unlikely the Steelers would blow a high first round pick on a center anyway. I think they are satisfied with their tackles: Marvel Smith is in his prime and Max Starks is young and still learning on the job.If the Steelers don't go offenssive line then I see them drafting a pass-rushing outside linebacker. Much of the Steelers pass rush is supposed to come the outside linebackers and frankly they aren't getting it done. Joey Porter will be entering the last year of his contract and was making noise last summer about being underpaid. Porter still has a decent year or two left in him but there is no way the Steelers are going to sign him to an extension for the kind of money he wants. Plus his mouth and carrying-on may be starting to wear thin in Pittsburgh. At best he plays out his final season with the Steelers next year and becomes a free agent but I have a feeling he is going to be cut loose. Clark Haggans, the Steelers other OLB is solid but unspectacular. They could use an upgrade or at the very least, some depth.
They don't use high picks on OLB, because they can get a tweener DE later in the draft which is what they want anyhow.I agree with you that the run game needs fixed. Any thoughts about the Steelers taking another back? I really like FWP, but the Steelers need to run the ball 35 times a game to be the Steelers. They need another back.
 
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The Best December Mock Draft With Two Rounds in the History of the World, Ever.

M. L. Brandow

I'd appreciate any homer feedback and feel free to rip me for predicting stupid players that your team will never pick in a million billion years. Would also appreciate instead of "good Steelers pick :thumbup:" giving some corroborative analysis in the likely possibility that I picked a stupid player that your team would never pick but you agree with it.

In the off-chance that you're still reading this lengthy introduction of two whole paragraphs, I'd like to ask one last thing before you scroll down to your favorite team and then post homer feedback on it: Stop reading this introduction and scroll down to your favorite team.

Let's begin!

1Oakland Raiders (2-14) - Brady Quinn, QB Notre Dame - It's too bad that they can't address their biggest need with this pick. Any other spot would have this team taking DT. Unfortunately, just like last year with the Texans, they're very unlikely to find a workable trade scenario. Quinn brings a face for a franchise that needs one, and although it's believed Oakland still has some faith in Walter, the allure of a franchise signal caller may be too great to pass up when they find themselves unable to move down.

33OAK - Quentin Moses, DE Georgia

2Detroit Lions (3-13) - Gaines Adams, DE Clemson – The most vital part to the Tampa-2 Defense is the WLB. Having addressed that in last year's draft however, the second most vital part is having a marquee pass-rushing D-End. Penetration from the front four frees up the speedy linebackers so that they can make more plays, and specifically the RDE's effectiveness allow the WLB more freedom. Tony Dungy grabbed Dwight Freeney the moment he landed in Indianapolis, and I would personally be shocked if DET skips out on DE with this pick. Adams is eerily similar to Freeney and has all the intangibles you look for when trying to break the stigma of coaching a team with a Detroit logo on its helmets.

34DET - Antoine Cason, CB Arizona

3Tampa Bay Buccaneers (3-13) - Joe Thomas, OT Wisconsin – What a difference an offensive line (or lack thereof) makes. Only last year, when the Bucs started the same guys at all five spots for the first time in franchise history, this team looked on the cusp of another Super Bowl run. Question: what do Sean Mahan, Dan Buenning, Davin Joseph and Jeremy Trueblood have in common? They were all drafted under Jon Gruden. The only thing lacking in this line is a franchise left tackle, of which Mr. Thomas is. Injuries to Buenning and Joseph have really kept this unit from gelling this year, but insert Big Joe on the left side, and the Buccaneer O-line goes from Achilles to strength overnight.

35TBB - Aaron Rouse, SS Virginia Tech

60TBB (f/IND) - Jay Alford, DT Penn State

4Houston Texans (5-11) - Adrian Peterson, RB Oklahoma – If the Texans draft anyone other than RB here—which they wont—it means they plan to move on without David Carr—which they aren't doing. I don't know where all of this media speculation comes from that Carr is in danger of losing his job and that he's a horrible QB, but all of those people are idiots. When Carr did have a running back, he lacked reliable receivers, and when he finally got those, he lost his running back. I'd also find it hard-pressed to believe they pass on another famed high school Texas player after all of the bad PR they got from skipping out on Vince Young.

36HOU - Brandon Meriweather, FS Miami

5Washington Redskins (5-11) - Leon Hall, CB Michigan – Maybe it's too early, maybe I'm crazy, but Carlos Rogers is just plain yuck. Maybe he's still not fully recovered, but regardless, this team has zero CB depth and Hall is probably the best available player right now. That defense can't afford to roll the dice on Rogers again next year, and when Coach Joe Gibbs retires next season, D-Coordinator Greg Blache is taking over. As such, I expect him to wield more influence this offseason with the management and get a guy that defense really needs.

6Arizona Cardinals (5-11) - Levi Brown, OT Penn State – To think, Edgerrin James looks so bad this season that people are having second thoughts about JJ Arrington's future in the NFL. With all of the offensive pieces in place though, and a young defense that is still improving, look for this pick to be a Tackle, whether it's a huge reach or small one. And having a guy under 360lbs on the offensive line might just help open up a hole or two or... I don't know... give Matt Leinart some pass protection.

38ARI - Ray McDonald, DE Florida

7Cleveland Browns (5-11) - Alan Branch, DT Michigan – Ted Washington is old, and was a one-year filler for a defense that really needed a Nose Tackle. I can't imagine that Branch isn't the guy here, regardless of where Cleveland is picking in the top-10. Crennel about shat a brick when Baltimore stole Haloti Ngata the pick before his in last year's draft, and this April Crennel might pass a Christmas Tree if he lands Branch.

39CLE - Ryan Harris, OT Notre Dame

8Minnesota Vikings (5-11) - Calvin Johnson, WR Georgia Tech – What is the best way to destroy a young Quarterback? Don't give him any weapons. Brad Childress isn't the smartest coach in the world, but he knows that Tarvaris Jackson is going to need some sure-handed receivers. When T-Jax played in the preseason, about 90% of his passes hit the receivers on the numbers, and about half of those were caught. Sure, when Brad Johnson throws ducks Minny's WR's don't appear to suck that bad, but wait until the young gun gets in there next year.

40MIN - Zach Miller, TE Arizona State

9San Francisco 49ers (6-10) - Marcus McCauley, CB Fresno State - We can make fun of the 49ers defense all day, but when I tell you that the 49ers sport what is statistically the worst defense of all time over the past three seasons, maybe the jokes stop and the penciling in of a lockdown corner in every mock from now until April starts. Talent-wise, this team should still be picking #1 overall, but you can thank Nolan for picking 10th.

41SFF - Reggie Nelson, FS Florida

10Miami Dolphins (6-10) - Quinn Pitcock, DT Ohio State – If you've been reading mock drafts, then you know the secret is out about Miami—their DT's suck and are old and will all be gone in March. Actually if you watch Miami play, you probably knew that, too. Saban is likely to look for a franchise signal caller here, but because I see JaMarcus Russell (who he recruited at LSU) available when Miami picks in the second round, I can't see them going anywhere but defense here.

42MIA - JaMarcus Russell, QB LSU

11Buffalo Bills (6-10) - Troy Smith, QB Ohio State – Let's see, skill player who is performing admirably, check. High draft pick, check. Replacing that skill player who is performing admirably and not addressing the offensive line, check. Bledsoe to Losman, Henry to McGahee, Moulds to Evans, and so on. This team is run by geriatric morons who would rather just keep drafting non-need positions with perceived marginal upgrades that actually leave the team worse off.

43BUF - Buster Davis, ILB Florida State

12Pittsburgh Steelers (6-10) - Justin Blalock, OG Texas – I speeled his naem right, which means I know what I'm talking about. The Steelers will probably pick up right where they left off in '06 (the first part) next year, and as such, they can really afford to draft whomever they want. I look for them to invest in the line because they can't afford any more brain damage to Roethlisberger.

44PIT - Aaron Ross, CB Texas

13Green Bay Packers (7-9) - Ted Ginn, Jr., WR Ohio State – I don't know why, but as soon as I started this mock, I saw Ginn jumping into a roaring Lambeau crowd. It just fits. I can't explain it, and maybe it's because they need defensive help a lot more, but this guy is going to give this Packer team something to cheer about next year.

45GBP - Ben Grubbs, OG Auburn

14St. Louis Rams (7-9) - Drew Stanton, QB Michigan State – Sorry, Mr. Bulger. The new management doesn't care that you made a Pro Bowl, all it cares about is that you have no pocket presence, get hurt every year, and you look like Mike Martz.

46STL - Victor Abiamiri, DE Notre Dame

15Atlanta Falcons (7-9) - Amobi Okoye, DT Louisville – ATL has about five quality under-tackles, and zero quality run-stopping DT's on its defense. Okoye could probably take two O-Linemen and a fullback by himself.

47ATL - Fred Bennett, CB South Carolina

16Tennessee Titans (8-8) - Dwayne Jarrett, WR USC – Cliché pick? Yeah. The right pick? Yeah. It's December, guys like me are undefeated in mock drafts. Chow gets more of his USC buddies and Young gets to throw incompletions to him until the fourth quarter of every game.

48TEN - Lamarr Woodley, DE Michigan

17Jacksonville Jaguars (8-8) - LaRon Landry, FS LSU – My used-to-be-favorite mock drafting site had the Jaguars drafting Brian Brohm. It's a good thing the front office isn't run by typewriting monkeys. Landry solidifies a secondary unit that can develop into one of the best in the league, a far cry from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2w75n567ok...FAB&index=1 a few years ago.

49JAX - Tim Crowder, DE Texas

18Denver Broncos (8-8) - Tank Tyler, DT NC State – This is not so much a knock on the legendary Browns D-line that was imported this ye ar so much as it is a knock on those that thought that D-line wouldn't need further addressing after the season.

50DEN - Ryan Kalil, OC USC

19Carolina Panthers (9-7) - Brian Brohm, QB Louisville - Unlike David Carr, Byron Leftwich and Donovan McNabb, Jake Delhomme should believe his local media speculation. Delhomme has always performed admirably, but there has been a direct correlation between the Panthers 4th Quarter meltdowns this year and his inconsistent play.

51CAR - HB Blades, ILB Pittsburgh

20Kansas City Chiefs (10-6) - Tony Ugoh, OT Arkansas - Additional generic car-related analogy. This draft should focus heavily on retooling the offensive line before there is any major drop-off. KC's O-line might go from tops in the league last year to worst in the league next year if they lose any more aging future hall of fame players this coming offseason.

52KCC - Justin Harrell, DT Tennessee

21Philadelphia Eagles (9-7) - Daymeion Hughes, CB California - Philadelphia needs depth in its secondary. They lack a reliable nickelback, and have nothing behind FS Brian Dawkins. Hughes is a corner without elite speed who already plays like a safety. He'll be a solid addition to this unit, as he can fill both roles immediately and be groomed behind Dawkins.

53PHI - Rufus Alexander, OLB Oklahoma

22New Orleans Saints (9-7) - Patrick Willis, ILB Ole Miss - The only problem holding New Orleans back is that 11-headed monster on defense. Actually 11-headed monster is a strong description... it's more like 11 abused foster children. Willis is explosive and can really give this defense an identity next year. All they have to do is be average and this team can start legitimately thinking Super Bowl.

54NOS - Zackary Bowman, CB Nebraska

23New York Jets (11-5) - Marshawn Lynch, RB California – Not any easier picks to make than this one for me. A lot of people feel that Lynch is a top prospect, and he's very good, but we as fantasy football players tend to overrate skill players this time of year. Lynch should be an opening day starter for a Jets team that already looks to be on the cusp of a championship.

37NYJ (f/WAS) - Adam Carriker, DE Nebraska

55NYJ - Doug Free, OT Northern Illinois

24Baltimore Ravens (12-4) - Anthony Spencer, DE Purdue - Baltimore can't get enough of these DE/OLB hybrids. Problem I see is if Spencer is the next Merriman/Wimbley/Ware, he may be the next fast-rising workout warrior and be long gone when Baltimore picks.

56BAL - Aaron Sears, OG/T Tennessee

25New England Patriots (f/SEA) - Tom Zbikowski, FS Notre Dame - Free Safety has been an issue for New England for some time now. Zbikowski is the prototypical player-coach who will excel under Belichick's tutilege. Having Weiss give him the 411 all year is a big plus, as he's already brainwashed into the communist Patriot mindset.

30NWE - Jeff Samardzija, WR Notre Dame

62NWE - Anthony Waters, ILB Clemson

26New York Giants (9-7) - Tanard Jackson, CB Syracuse - The Giants secondary is so bad that their DBs are starting to change their identities when they leave the team. Jackson is an aggressive coverage corner who hopefully will bring some stability to a struggling unit. Look for the Giants to spend at least two of its first day picks on the secondary.

58NYG - Michael Griffin, SS Texas

27Cincinnati Bengals (11-5) - Turk McBride, DT Tennessee - Cincinnati has been playing better defense down the stretch, but what they really need some penetration inside. Cincy's linebacking corps is young and athletic and if the Bengals can grab an elusive under-tackle like T-Mac, you'll see the entire defense improve.

59CIN - Prescott Burgess, OLB Michigan

28Indianapolis Colts (12-4) - Earl Everett, OLB Florida - Everett is a perfect fit for the Indy's Tampa-2 and to replace the impending departure of WLB Cato June this offseason. Everett has great instincts and is probably the most athletic linebacker in this draft.

29Chicago Bears (13-3) - Jake Long, OT Michigan - Normally picking a strongside tackle this early isn't a great move, but the Bears have a real need there. Long is the best right tackle in the draft by far, and is one of the safest picks in this draft.

61CHI - Greg Olson, TE Miami

30New England Patriots (13-3) - Jeff Samardzija, WR Notre Dame - Notre Dame aka New England's Farm Team. A big, tall, sure-handed guy like Samardzija will be hard to pass up to mix in with the small, short, drop-laden corps they have now. I can't imagine Samardzija playing baseball. I just can't. I hate baseball. Plus I like saying Samardzija.

62NWE - Anthony Waters, ILB Clemson

31Dallas Cowboys (12-4) - Dwayne Bowe, WR LSU - Bowe might be the most athletically gifted wide receiver in the draft behind Calvin Johnson, and should develop into the next great Cowboys Wide Receiver.

63DAL - Brian Leonard, FB Rutgers

32San Diego Chargers (13-3) - Sidney Rice, WR South Carolina - While Rivers is putting up numbers, he really needs a playmaking WR. Rice won't be that guy in his rookie year, but has the talent to develop into the type of first read that Rivers needs.

64SDC - Desmond Bishop, ILB California

33OAK - Quentin Moses, DE Georgia

34DET - Antoine Cason, CB

35TBB - Aaron Rouse, SS Virginia Tech

36HOU - Brandon Meriweather, FS Miami

37NYJ (f/WAS) - Adam Carriker, DE Nebraska

38ARI - Ray McDonald, DE Florida

39CLE - Ryan Harris, OT Notre Dame

40MIN - Zach Miller, TE Arizona State

41SFF - Reggie Nelson, FS Florida

42MIA - JaMarcus Russell, QB LSU

43BUF - Buster Davis, ILB Florida State

44PIT - Aaron Ross, CB Texas

45GBP - Ben Grubbs, OG Auburn

46STL - Victor Abiamiri, DE Notre Dame

47ATL - Fred Bennett, CB South Carolina

48TEN - Lamarr Woodley, DE Michigan

49JAX - Tim Crowder, DE Texas

50DEN - Ryan Kalil, OC USC

51CAR - HB Blades, ILB Pittsburgh

52KCC - Justin Harrell, DT Tennessee

53PHI - Rufus Alexander, OLB Oklahoma

54NOS - Zackary Bowman, CB Nebraska

55NYJ - Doug Free, OT Northern Illinois

56BAL - Aaron Sears, OG/T Tennessee

57SEA - Leroy Harris, NC State

58NYG - Michael Griffin, SS Texas

59CIN - Prescott Burgess, OLB Michigan

60TBB (f/IND) - Jay Alford, DT Penn State

61CHI - Greg Olson, TE Miami

62NWE - Anthony Waters, ILB Clemson

63DAL - Brian Leonard, FB Rutgers

64SDC - Desmond Bishop, ILB California

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There are a lot of problems with this, but the biggest has to be the omission of the best linebacker (probably the best defensive player in college football). I am assuming you forgot Posluszny, because there is no way he is not in the top 10. I can't see how he is not in the top 5.
 
There are a lot of problems with this, but the biggest has to be the omission of the best linebacker (probably the best defensive player in college football). I am assuming you forgot Posluszny, because there is no way he is not in the top 10. I can't see how he is not in the top 5.
I agree there's oversight problems with this mock and Posluzny should be in, as should Revis, Weddle, and a few others, but I disagree with your very high expectations for Posluzny. I see no way into the top 5 for him and a very distant shot at top 10. Top 20 likely, first round for sure. :2cents: MLB - Sell me on Levi Brown. Maybe I have him wrong, but I think he's round 2 material like Whitworth (who's playing great) was last year. Also, I make few guarantees this early, but McCauley and top 10 I guarantee won't happen. Enough criticism. Great work going two rounds and bringing some excellent names up for discussion.

You really think Zibby is round 1? I'm hearing he could fall to day 2 for his pathetic coverage skills. I like him way more than most, but less than you, because he is a great special teamer and few mockers weigh the importance of that. I like seeing Grubbs name in a mock. I think he has a great shot at the first round if OLs start falling early this year. I'm still a little shell shocked over the disrespect they got a year ago though.

 
12Pittsburgh Steelers (6-10) - Justin Blalock, OG Texas – I speeled his naem right, which means I know what I'm talking about. The Steelers will probably pick up right where they left off in '06 (the first part) next year, and as such, they can really afford to draft whomever they want. I look for them to invest in the line because they can't afford any more brain damage to Roethlisberger.44PIT - Aaron Ross, CB Texas
So you see the Steelers losing out? :cry: In any case, there is an excellent chance the Steelers take an offensive lineman with their first pick but not necessarily for the reason you mentioned. Much of the problem with the pass protection has been with the RBs having trouble picking up the blitz and because Ben has been holding on to the ball too long. Don't get me wrong, the o-line could definitely stand to improve their pass blocking but the real concern is the inconsistency of the running game. It doesn't take much for Willie Parker to break one but there have been games this season where the holes were non-existant. The o-line simply must get better and more consistent in their run-blocking. The Steelers have been disappointed with the play of RG Kendall Simmons who was benched for a game or two earlier in the season. Chris Kemoeatu was given an opportunity to start but apparently wasn't any better because the Steelers went back to Simmons and Kemoeatu is frequently on the inactive list on Sunday. If the Steelers do go offensive line in the 1st round, RG is probably where they will go. C Jeff Hartings will probably retire after this season but the Steelers already have Chukki Okobi ready to go and it is very unlikely the Steelers would blow a high first round pick on a center anyway. I think they are satisfied with their tackles: Marvel Smith is in his prime and Max Starks is young and still learning on the job.If the Steelers don't go offenssive line then I see them drafting a pass-rushing outside linebacker. Much of the Steelers pass rush is supposed to come the outside linebackers and frankly they aren't getting it done. Joey Porter will be entering the last year of his contract and was making noise last summer about being underpaid. Porter still has a decent year or two left in him but there is no way the Steelers are going to sign him to an extension for the kind of money he wants. Plus his mouth and carrying-on may be starting to wear thin in Pittsburgh. At best he plays out his final season with the Steelers next year and becomes a free agent but I have a feeling he is going to be cut loose. Clark Haggans, the Steelers other OLB is solid but unspectacular. They could use an upgrade or at the very least, some depth.
They don't use high picks on OLB, because they can get a tweener DE later in the draft which is what they want anyhow.I agree with you that the run game needs fixed. Any thoughts about the Steelers taking another back? I really like FWP, but the Steelers need to run the ball 35 times a game to be the Steelers. They need another back.
That's why Michael Bush is a possibility, as is Ted Ginn (yes, 2 first round WRs in successive years is a possibility.) I agree OL will likely be the direction they go, and DE or CB is also a possibility, though less likely.
 
They don't use high picks on OLB, because they can get a tweener DE later in the draft which is what they want anyhow.I agree with you that the run game needs fixed. Any thoughts about the Steelers taking another back? I really like FWP, but the Steelers need to run the ball 35 times a game to be the Steelers. They need another back.
The Steelers took tweener Alonzo Jackson in the 2nd three years ago. Unfortunately he turned out to be a bust but it does show the Steelers will take an OLB early if the like him. They really need to do something to improve the pass rush though, especially if Joey Porter is gone.The Steelers are definitely going to need another back because Staley is gone, Haynes is coming off injury and I am pretty sure Davenport is only signed for this season. My guess is they'll re-sign Daveport and go for a brusier back in the 3rd or 4th round.
 
That's why Michael Bush is a possibility, as is Ted Ginn (yes, 2 first round WRs in successive years is a possibility.) I agree OL will likely be the direction they go, and DE or CB is also a possibility, though less likely.
Another 1st round WR? I think they are in pretty good shape at WR.
 
Just an FYI to help with the 2nd RD picks....

Zack Bowman CB Nebraska - Every indication out of Husker land is that Zack will return to Nebraska for a medical redshirt year. He blew out his ACl in fall camp and never saw the field this year. Sources close to the situation have him returning. The only thing that might change that is a 1st RD grade ala Cormartie (CB entering the draft coming off a knee injury).

 
There are a lot of problems with this, but the biggest has to be the omission of the best linebacker (probably the best defensive player in college football). I am assuming you forgot Posluszny, because there is no way he is not in the top 10. I can't see how he is not in the top 5.
I agree there's oversight problems with this mock and Posluzny should be in, as should Revis, Weddle, and a few others, but I disagree with your very high expectations for Posluzny. I see no way into the top 5 for him and a very distant shot at top 10. Top 20 likely, first round for sure. :own3d: MLB - Sell me on Levi Brown. Maybe I have him wrong, but I think he's round 2 material like Whitworth (who's playing great) was last year. Also, I make few guarantees this early, but McCauley and top 10 I guarantee won't happen. Enough criticism. Great work going two rounds and bringing some excellent names up for discussion.

You really think Zibby is round 1? I'm hearing he could fall to day 2 for his pathetic coverage skills. I like him way more than most, but less than you, because he is a great special teamer and few mockers weigh the importance of that. I like seeing Grubbs name in a mock. I think he has a great shot at the first round if OLs start falling early this year. I'm still a little shell shocked over the disrespect they got a year ago though.
Maybe, but then a lot of teams made a huge mistake. You don't win defensive player of the year twice for nothing. Will be a difference maker as a rookie.
 
Other than Troy Smith going 60 picks before he will go in April, it's an excellent mock. Just watch the film on Smith, he throws ducks...he will not be a QB in the NFL, and if he is, he will be terrible...
I've watched three years of Troy and to put it bluntly, you're wrong.
No. Hes not. A 5'11 QB with a mediocre arm will not go in the first round.
I won't disagree with tour comment about troy not going in the first round. I believe his height will hold him back. But a mediocre arm? Have you ever seen him play? He has a cannon on his shoulders. He has thrown several balls 55+ yards to Ginn downfield. Smith can also throw the out pass to the sideline quite well. He is also pretty accurate, I don't have his completion percentage on hand but this kid can thread a ball into a tight spot if necessary. His arm, decision making , and leadership are not in question. The only reason he won't go in the 1st round is the fact that when it comes to NFL QB's, he's a midget.
 
Drunken Cowboy said:
There are a lot of problems with this, but the biggest has to be the omission of the best linebacker (probably the best defensive player in college football). I am assuming you forgot Posluszny, because there is no way he is not in the top 10. I can't see how he is not in the top 5.
I agree there's oversight problems with this mock and Posluzny should be in, as should Revis, Weddle, and a few others, but I disagree with your very high expectations for Posluzny. I see no way into the top 5 for him and a very distant shot at top 10. Top 20 likely, first round for sure. :2cents:
Maybe, but then a lot of teams made a huge mistake. You don't win defensive player of the year twice for nothing. Will be a difference maker as a rookie.
:boxing: PP = Demeco Ryans: Average measurables, big time overall talent.

 
"5Washington Redskins (5-11) - Leon Hall, CB Michigan – Maybe it's too early, maybe I'm crazy, but Carlos Rogers is just plain yuck. Maybe he's still not fully recovered, but regardless, this team has zero CB depth and Hall is probably the best available player right now. That defense can't afford to roll the dice on Rogers again next year, and when Coach Joe Gibbs retires next season, D-Coordinator Greg Blache is taking over. As such, I expect him to wield more influence this offseason with the management and get a guy that defense really needs."

I think you mean the tastefully named Gregg Williams rather than Blache. In that Williams get $1 million if he ISN'T named coach after Gibbs.

Also, and this may be wishful thinking but the Skins major problem hasn't been lack of secondary depth, it's been lack of interour run defense. I would hope they would be smart enough to take Alan Branch who is beast and would make their linebacking corps and their secondary better immediatly. But that's way too much to hope for from this crew.

 
replacements said:
Other than Troy Smith going 60 picks before he will go in April, it's an excellent mock. Just watch the film on Smith, he throws ducks...he will not be a QB in the NFL, and if he is, he will be terrible...
I've watched three years of Troy and to put it bluntly, you're wrong.
No. Hes not. A 5'11 QB with a mediocre arm will not go in the first round.
I won't disagree with tour comment about troy not going in the first round. I believe his height will hold him back. But a mediocre arm? Have you ever seen him play? He has a cannon on his shoulders. He has thrown several balls 55+ yards to Ginn downfield. Smith can also throw the out pass to the sideline quite well. He is also pretty accurate, I don't have his completion percentage on hand but this kid can thread a ball into a tight spot if necessary. His arm, decision making , and leadership are not in question. The only reason he won't go in the 1st round is the fact that when it comes to NFL QB's, he's a midget.
Good post. The only thing holding Smith back is his height. The guy can read a defense. He's poised. He can make all the throws and he's mobile. And he's a winner. He could still go round 1. Shorter QBs like Grossman and Rodgers have in recent history. Plus, guys like Brees, Garcia (in his prime) or even McNabb have shown that you do not need to be 6'3"+ to be succesful or even exceptional. Granted, his lack of prototypical height and cannon arm will probably keep him out of the top picks, but anywhere mid-to-late 1st is not out of the question. Especially looking at some of the 1st round QBs lately- Losman, Campbell, Rogers, etc.
 
That's why Michael Bush is a possibility, as is Ted Ginn (yes, 2 first round WRs in successive years is a possibility.) I agree OL will likely be the direction they go, and DE or CB is also a possibility, though less likely.
Another 1st round WR? I think they are in pretty good shape at WR.
It's possible. Nate Washington hasn't improved much this year, Cedrick Wilson sucks, Ward is getting older and has had some injury problems, they have no idea what Reid can do, Santonio Holmes has shown suspect ball security. In retrospect, a guy like Ginn, they probably wouldn't take, but if they lose out and end up with a pick in the top 10, a guy like Calvin Johnson would be very intriguing.
 
Will Jamarcus Russell really fall to the 2nd round?
No. Easy top-10 overall if he comes out, and could be the first QB pick. He will blow up the combine.
I agree. The Dolphins will likely pick him 10th. As of right now though, I just couldn't stick him there. By draft day the hype-train will bring his stock up a lot, but IMO he's still a lock for the Dolphins.
I'll take the over on 0-3.I can see the Jags taking two of those games - and Garrardx/M J-D don;t matter. The Jags D is what will be responsible for the win in at least one of those games.
You can take the over on the Jags and Ronnie Brown. I'll take the right answer :shrug: . Their easy game is now off the map. I'd like to see how they handle NE and @KC, who won't be mathematically eliminated until Week 17 comes to a close.
Sorry, I just cant take a mock seriously if it has Troy Smith in the 1st round, let alone in the top 11 picks.
...not to mention OAK taking a QB that high.
Look, I hear ya guys. I don't like Quinn and I do like Andrew Walter. But I'm not Al Davis. If the Raiders get the first pick, which I think they will, then I just don't see them passing on him. If they do, for who?
If the Colts don't draft someone that can help stop the run they are nuts. How many times do they need to get beat by physical offensive lines?
They are. a WLB's primary assignment is usually the RB. That said, I believe you mean DL. They should, but there's such a thin crop this year, and they are likely to be gobbled up when Indy picks. A healthy Indy Defense has proven to stop the run. But they won't be able to hold water in a cup without a WLB to replace June, who is going to the highest T2D bidder, which won't be the Colts and their $200M offense.
Sidney Rice has said he's coming back. We'll see if he stays true to it.
I'll be sure to edit my draft. His name has been thrown around like he's coming out, and I hadn't heard Rice say that.
ML Brandow. I question your cleveland pick. Did you decide this based on the fact that cleveland did not get ngata this year or because this michigan kid is that good. Cleveland traded down with B-more allowing them to take ngata 1 ahead of them because cleveland wanted wimbley. Cleveland has huge needs at the O-line position.There has been some random talk on local sports radio of cleveland picking up steinbach from Cinci via free agency in the offseason.If this happens, with the return of Lecharles Bentley I could see Clevaland targeting a different position. If they don't improve the O-line via free agency I think they have to adress it early in the draft. Are ther any other O-linemen that cleveland could get decent value out of with ther 1st round pick?
OL is not the biggest problem for Cleveland. It is because of injuries, but outside of that, NT is by far their biggest need. I took a bit of poetic license in the paragraph, and I admit it is misleading upon a second read, but the ideology behind Crennel was to give up Ngata to get Wimbley, with Washington being a one-year plug. If you think the defense is spotty now, without a NT it's going to disintegrate.Also, I may be a bit of a minority, but I like the depth in the OL this year more than most. Last year's was very deep, and I think it's spoiled some of the hardcore draftnicks who might be overreacting this year. Crennel is defense though, and when that defense becomes respectable (next year?) it's going to set the tone for the rest of the football team which needs discipline and leadership.
Drew Stanton will not be drafted in the first round.
Maybe not, but some are high on him as being the QB steal of the draft. Of course, everyone says that about every QB this time of year. It's too far away to definitively exclude any solid prospect.
The Broncos don't need a center. They have Myers, Hamilton, and Eslinger who are prototypical denver centers.And with Kuper ready at RG they don't need a guard either. Tackle...maybe since Foster is likely to get traded or cut and Lepsis is coming back from an injury. Look for Pears and Meadows to battle it out at RT next year.
I had this exact discussion last year, and some Bronco homers convinced me otherwise. This year though, I've been similarly convinced by that same group that said depth is illusory and those unproven guys aren't going to live up to the bill. Right or not, Denver can ill afford any drop-off, but it's really a crap shoot figuring out how good those guys are without seeing them in position on gameday. I took the under last year, and I'm banking they cash in this draft.
 
Ok so you have the Bills and Fins at 6-10?

both are 6-7 and play eachother next week.
In order to determine the mock draft order, I predicted the last 4 games and playoffs. Surely there will be a missed game or two, but it was more fun for me (and probably more fun for you guys to see projected records) to do. Perhaps you'll notice this draft was published before the Week 14 games. I will further edit the order after this weekend and revise it though, and I appreciate pointing it out. FWIW, I had the Bills losing Week 14 and beating the Dolphins in week 15.
Bills wont take Troy Smith. JP's has played ok this year.

They need

RT,RG,LB,DT,CB(if nate leaves), C,

ALOT
Naturally, from my projected 6-10 Bills record, I had little faith in Losman down the stretch. He's proving me wrong, and he's slowly winning back Buffalo. If he keeps it up or even just doesn't regress dramatically, I don't see Buffalo gambling on Smith either.
no way I see the 'Boys taking Brian Leonard, as much as I would love tha tto happen. Parcells has all but fazed out the FB position, no way I can see him using a 2nd round pick on one, even if it is as good as Leonard projects to be.

I see a West Coast offense like Philadlephia or Tampa Bay taking Leonard, and him becoming a beast in the NFL.

Just for prespective purposes, this is coming from a 'Boys fan who loves RU (lives in NJ)
I expect Leonard to translate to the Richie Anderson type. He strikes me as a Parcells guy, and Parcells would run the ball 50 times a game if he had the personnel. TO may not be back with the team, and Glenn smells of impending retirement. Rather than forcefeed rookies, I see that offensive philosophy skewed more to the run next year, and one more back in the mix will only make DAL better. While there are better picks, it just seemed to fit to me. Leonard is that good though, but (buc homer) he isn't a fit at all in Gruden's offense or in Philadelphia.
if Buffalo goes anywhere but OL, the GM should be shot.

That said, Troy Smith in Cleveland works.
Derek Anderson might be inclined to disagree. At that, even if Anderson were terrible, I don't think Crennel gives up on Frye just yet. Some QBs take more time to develop. They'll likely bring in a vet and hold open competition. If no one wins the job, you'll see them grab a franchise caller in the '08 draft.
There are other mistakes. Minny is currently 6-7 but he has them finishing 5-11.
Again, had to predict the finishes, and this was before the week 14 games. Notice I have DET at 3-13. It's because I saw them beating MIN. Artose Pinner kind of ruined that though.
7Cleveland Browns (5-11) - Alan Branch, DT Michigan – Ted Washington is old, and was a one-year filler for a defense that really needed a Nose Tackle. I can't imagine that Branch isn't the guy here, regardless of where Cleveland is picking in the top-10. Crennel about shat a brick when Baltimore stole Haloti Ngata the pick before his in last year's draft, and this April Crennel might pass a Christmas Tree if he lands Branch.

39CLE - Ryan Harris, OT Notre Dame
You lost credibility with that one. The Browns traded the down to the Ravens because they wanted Wimbley. They got Vickers with the Ravens pick.
Yeah, as I said earlier in this post, it was a bit of embellishment for effect :shrug: .
Good job MLB. Overall, I like your effort on this mock, particularly with the inclusion of the 2nd round.

While we need another WR to go along with an aging Driver and rookie Jennings, the Packers defense is brutal and requires serious attention. I'd place the Pack's draft needs as: 1) DE 2) DT 3) RB 4) WR 5) DB. Obviously we could use help across the board, but our defensive line continues to be pathetic. Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila has proven that he's best in a situational pass rusher role. And besides Ryan Pickett, we lack a DL to stuff the run. I'd place those as a priority.

Ben Grubbs probably isn't the best pick in round 2. We just drafted 3 rookie O-linemen this past year, and they appear to be growing into decent players. Not sure we'd use a high pick there.
Appreciate the insight. While GB did draft 3 OL in the draft, they neglected the guard position, which they addressed by playing their future LT at LG and future OC at RG. This is not uncommon when rebuilding an OL, by letting the rookies learn under the veterans by lining up next to them. However, I expect that the Packers will replace at least one of those guard positions with a solid rookie Guard like Grubbs.DL is an issue, but there are some very quality FA Linemen available this year, and the Packers have as much to spend as the next team with all the cap relief that the new CBA brought. Chad Lavalais comes to mind as a potential target for GB.

All three of those could be tough games, but they don't have a problem getting up for those this year. I think you are underrating the Jaguars.
I may be, but I think you are similarly overestimating David Garrard.
 
TannerBoyle said:
Zbikowski in round 1?
Call me a fan I guess. He's got everything the Patriots want in a safety, minus the name 'Rodney Harrison II'
There is no way Green Bay goes WR in round one, unless it's Calvin Johnson. Ted Thompson has found two good WRs in round 2 two straight years (Murphy, Jennings). He'll wait.And, drafting a guard early isn't going to happen either. They're starting three rookies right now. Why would they draft another early? The biggest need is DE. Followed by WR. Then S.
GB's DL/OL situation addressed earlier in this post, but as for WR, Murphy as has been stated in this thread is out of football, unlikely to return, and since getting hurt in Week 6, Jennings has yet to top 70 yards or score in a game. He's averaged 36 reyd/game since returning to the lineup, despite Favre averaging more yards per game than when Jennings was performing. Call me crazy, but I think some (all) of us jumped the gun on the rookie.
Ok so this is just my opinion but,a) Jamarcus Russell will go in the first. He is basically the prototypical QB teams cream over. b) If the Browns pass on Troy Smith the town might burn itself down. Here is a kid who comes from Cleveland, beats Michigan 3 years straight, wins a Heisman and possible a National Champion. Ohio loves him, Cleveland loves him more. To pass on him for a Michigan DT is crazy talk, sorry ML. c) I don't see Carolina taking a QB. As much as Delhomme as struggled I think it's because of overreliance on the passing game and a weak running attack. I think that could be seen in ####### Chris Weinke throwing the ball 60 times this weekend. d) Barring injury, if Calvin Johnson doesn't go in the top 5 I will eat a pair of my underpants and you can quote me on that. He is the freakist WR I have seen in quite some times. Probably the best WR we've seen since Fitz and he's faster than Fitz.
a) I agree with you that he ultimately will, and I'm standing by my predictions that the Saban reels him in, first round if necessary.b) College rivalries on the pro level.. ehh.... tickle me uncorrelated, but I don't care much for them. Cleveland will get over it. Derek Anderson is probably already making them forget 'Troy Smith in the 1st' talk.c) I do. I'm not so sure this 'hand injury' isn't a "do we have ANYONE on this team that can play QB at all??!" feeler before they spend their first on a new franchise caller. Delhomme has never been more than average, and has had the benefit of having a few timely good playoff performances, including a Super Bowl where the Panthers only got there because they knocked McNabb out of the NFC title game.d) I'll be sure to include him in my top-5 next mock then so you don't eat your pants.
WAyyyyyyy too much free time on your handsThe only comment is w/detroit - depends on if millen return - if he does you can guarantee he will pick a wr.
Calvin Johnson #2 overall sounds like money to me. Just ask Bojang.
Now going DT is NOT a bad thought, but your reasoning was extremely flawed. The Dolphins DL, including the DT's has been EXCELLENT this year, saying their DT's suck is just ignorant. They are old, but very effective.
Now, I didn't say their performance sucked, I said they sucked. Difference there... I think Jason Taylor is the DMVP, and the space he eats up and damage he does makes the aging guys look good. It's certainly not the other way around. Regardless, we agree that it is a need because they will all be gone in the offseason.
if Laron Laundry is available when Saban picks there is no chance in hell he will make it past Miami. Mark it down. Laundry was Saban's golden boy.
He was, but Russell was too.... can't win without a QB, and it's a crap shoot signing one in FA, as Miami has found out.
I think that the Lions will not pass Joe Thomas for a DE.
Well, for the reasons stated in the mock, I think they will. But we shall see!
14St. Louis Rams (7-9) - Drew Stanton, QB Michigan State – Sorry, Mr. Bulger. The new management doesn't care that you made a Pro Bowl, all it cares about is that you have no pocket presence, get hurt every year, and you look like Mike Martz.46STL - Victor Abiamiri, DE Notre Dame
May as well give them a RB in the 2nd while you're at it.
Pocket Presence for a QB is like vision for an RB. You can achieve moderate success without it, but you're capping how well you can ever be at what you do. Bulger doesn't have pocket presence, and Linehan doesn't owe a nickel to him. New coach, new regime, new franchise QB.
All reports seem to indicate that Jake Long will be returning for his senior season at Michigan.
News to me. Is there a consolidated source on top underclassmen prospects and their draft declaration intentions?
 
One other thing to consider in Green Bay. Koren Robinson is a wildcard here. If Thompson thinks Robinson will be back, I could see them waiting a bit for a WR.....
I think Robinson finds himself on a new team under a young coach next year (Nolan? Crennel? Mangini? just shots in the dark).
I sure would like Jarrett to fall to the Titans. :shrug:
While I would also consider him a bit of a steal where the Titans will be picking, I similarly just can't see a team other than the Titans grabbing him. It just fits too well.
There are a lot of problems with this, but the biggest has to be the omission of the best linebacker (probably the best defensive player in college football). I am assuming you forgot Posluszny, because there is no way he is not in the top 10. I can't see how he is not in the top 5.
:cry: Honestly, I had him dropped to later in the first for the same reasons Ryans fell to 33rd, but I don't know why he isn't on the board! Definitely a flub on my part.... Appreciate you pointing this out.
MLB - [1]Sell me on Levi Brown. Maybe I have him wrong, but I think he's round 2 material like Whitworth (who's playing great) was last year. Also, I make few guarantees this early, but McCauley and top 10 I guarantee won't happen. Enough criticism. Great work going two rounds and bringing some excellent names up for discussion.

[2]You really think Zibby is round 1? I'm hearing he could fall to day 2 for his pathetic coverage skills. I like him way more than most, but less than you, because he is a great special teamer and few mockers weigh the importance of that. [3]I like seeing Grubbs name in a mock. I think he has a great shot at the first round if OLs start falling early this year. I'm still a little shell shocked over the disrespect they got a year ago though.
1) He's big and fat and tall. And he can move good. And block good and stuff. In all seriousness though, I don't think he doesn't deserves to go as high will, but due to the lack of LT depth, he's going to be gobbled up by a reach pick.2) I do think he's really round 1. And if the Patriots took him, would you go "man what a bunch of idiots! that guy can't cover shlt!" If coverage were his strong suit, he'd play FS at the pro level instead of SS.

3) He might well sneak into the first round, and I wouldn't be at all surprised. He wouldn't be much more of a reach than Joseph was for the Bucs this past draft.

Just an FYI to help with the 2nd RD picks....

Zack Bowman CB Nebraska - Every indication out of Husker land is that Zack will return to Nebraska for a medical redshirt year. He blew out his ACl in fall camp and never saw the field this year. Sources close to the situation have him returning. The only thing that might change that is a 1st RD grade ala Cormartie (CB entering the draft coming off a knee injury).
Thanks for the heads up.
Maybe, but then a lot of teams made a huge mistake. You don't win defensive player of the year twice for nothing. Will be a difference maker as a rookie.
:no: all aboard the Z-Train.
I think you mean the tastefully named Gregg Williams rather than Blache. In that Williams get $1 million if he ISN'T named coach after Gibbs.

Also, and this may be wishful thinking but the Skins major problem hasn't been lack of secondary depth, it's been lack of interour run defense. I would hope they would be smart enough to take Alan Branch who is beast and would make their linebacking corps and their secondary better immediatly. But that's way too much to hope for from this crew.
Yes, name flub on my part. As per the pick, I just think a lockdown corner such as Hall will be too tempting to pass up in this draft.I appreciate everyone's contribution and feedback to this mock. Expect a revised version shortly after Christmas. :shrug:

 
All three of those could be tough games, but they don't have a problem getting up for those this year. I think you are underrating the Jaguars.
I may be, but I think you are similarly overestimating David Garrard.
Perhaps. And your prediction is correct thus far.My point was that the Jags are a team that emphasizes stellar defense and ball control and despite Garrards horrible performance against the Titans, I can't see them dropping three straight to end the season.
 
All three of those could be tough games, but they don't have a problem getting up for those this year. I think you are underrating the Jaguars.
I may be, but I think you are similarly overestimating David Garrard.
Perhaps. And your prediction is correct thus far.My point was that the Jags are a team that emphasizes stellar defense and ball control and despite Garrards horrible performance against the Titans, I can't see them dropping three straight to end the season.
Vs. NE to clinch a 3rd seed and end their playoff hopes and then at KC in december, where they will be looking to take out some frustration. I see them definitely dropping NE and I see a blowout at KC.We'll see though. I'll agree with you though (I think?) that when Leftwich returns next year, with Drew shouldering the load with a healthy Greg Jones that this team might repeat from '05. They are a very good team and consistently underrated, but not this year. The obstacles are too great for a team that's losing hope.
 
All reports seem to indicate that Jake Long will be returning for his senior season at Michigan.
News to me. Is there a consolidated source on top underclassmen prospects and their draft declaration intentions?
Yup.. Jake said he is staying because the Offense is going to be great.Here's a list I found.

P.S. JaMarcus Russell is the first QB off the board... maybe the first player.

 
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Kirby said:
All reports seem to indicate that Jake Long will be returning for his senior season at Michigan.
News to me. Is there a consolidated source on top underclassmen prospects and their draft declaration intentions?
Yup.. Jake said he is staying because the Offense is going to be great.Here's a list I found.

P.S. JaMarcus Russell is the first QB off the board... maybe the first player.
:football: thanks much!
 
All three of those could be tough games, but they don't have a problem getting up for those this year. I think you are underrating the Jaguars.
I may be, but I think you are similarly overestimating David Garrard.
Perhaps. And your prediction is correct thus far.My point was that the Jags are a team that emphasizes stellar defense and ball control and despite Garrards horrible performance against the Titans, I can't see them dropping three straight to end the season.
Vs. NE to clinch a 3rd seed and end their playoff hopes and then at KC in december, where they will be looking to take out some frustration. I see them definitely dropping NE and I see a blowout at KC.We'll see though. I'll agree with you though (I think?) that when Leftwich returns next year, with Drew shouldering the load with a healthy Greg Jones that this team might repeat from '05. They are a very good team and consistently underrated, but not this year. The obstacles are too great for a team that's losing hope.
Great call on the Jags finish MLB.
 
TannerBoyle said:
Zbikowski in round 1?
Call me a fan I guess. He's got everything the Patriots want in a safety, minus the name 'Rodney Harrison II'
There is no way Green Bay goes WR in round one, unless it's Calvin Johnson. Ted Thompson has found two good WRs in round 2 two straight years (Murphy, Jennings). He'll wait.And, drafting a guard early isn't going to happen either. They're starting three rookies right now. Why would they draft another early? The biggest need is DE. Followed by WR. Then S.
GB's DL/OL situation addressed earlier in this post, but as for WR, Murphy as has been stated in this thread is out of football, unlikely to return, and since getting hurt in Week 6, Jennings has yet to top 70 yards or score in a game. He's averaged 36 reyd/game since returning to the lineup, despite Favre averaging more yards per game than when Jennings was performing. Call me crazy, but I think some (all) of us jumped the gun on the rookie.
Once again, to clarify. I'm well aware that Murphy is out of football. The point was not that Murphy will contribute. The point was, Ted Thompson has found second round wide receiver in two straight seasons who looked like keepers. So again, he will not spend a first round pick on anyone at the WR position, unless Calvin Johnson somehow fell. You can find a Ted Ginn type player later in the draft. And yes, the Jennings injury is the main reason he hasn't been putting up big numbers. You can look at it however you'd like, but he was doing well before the injury, and the only thing that changed was he got hurt. Pretty simple. With a year under his belt and his health, I think he takes a step up next season.
 
Oh, I also saw in this thread a mock with Green Bay going with a guard in round 2. I also do not think that will happen. Thompson will draft an O lineman, but probably not a guard, and probably not until later. Spitz and Moll held up well this season. The bigger concern on the O line is tackle, since Clifton and Tauscher aren't getting any younger, and they're very, very thin there.

 

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