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Am I going crazy? (1 Viewer)

TheNext0

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PPR League, we have 3 WRs over 30 ppg.

10 WRs over 20 ppg.

15 WRs over 17.8 ppg (which was the per game average for the #1 WR last year in our league)

What in the world is going on? Trend or will these numbers come back down?

 
I can't remember it happening this early in the year. These teams need to play their players more in the preseason. It sure seems like the Def so far are not yet in game shape.

 
There are some fast one out of the gate this year. I do expect Steve Smith and Chad Johnson and Randy Moss to continue impressing.
Smith & CJ were expected to be good (but not quite THIS good), but several have been a surprise.Randy Moss, Plax & AJ are three that come to mind as guys playing above their expected levels. I don't think CJ & Smith will keep up the torrid pace, but these kinds of games aren't a complete surprise. I think Moss may be right there with them all year (and maybe AJ). Also guys like Holt, Driver, Wayne & Harrison are doing exactly what was expected. It's been a good couple of weeks for the stud WR's.
 
It's just a small sample size issue. Tons of WRs score 30 points in a game during the course of the season. If one of those games falls in week 1 or week 2, their PPG will be off the charts. If it falls in week 12 or week 13, it'll barely be a blip on the radar.

 
You're correct, WRs are going off crazy right now.

Donte' Stallworth (222/2) was the top fantasy WR after two weeks last season. SIX wide receivers have more than 35 FPs this year.

In fact, from 2002-2006, ZERO wide receivers scored 40 FPs after two weeks. Terrell Owens, with 4 TDs in 2004, was closest. This year? Five wide receivers have over 40 FPs after two games.

So it happened zero times in '02, zero times in '03, zero times in '04, zero times in '05, zero times in '06, and then five times in '07. Yeah, something is in the water this year.

 
QBs aren't too far behind.

Palmer and Romo are 2 and 3 over the past six years, behind the '04 version of McNabb. Brady and Delhomme rank 9th and 10th. Number 18? Derek Anderson. :thumbup:

 
Who would have thought Cotchery with a new QB would drop 7-165 on Baltimore
would've been a nice comeback for a rookie first start had McCariens (and Coles) made the catches on that last drive.I guess they're not used to bullets being thrown to them. Cotchery's performance (and Clemens') was impressive. the one catch and run took 3 ravens to take him down.
 
Thanks for the quick numbers there Chase.

I knew it was very out of the ordinary. I fully expect the numbers to balance out by the end of the year...unfortunately I'm looking at an 0-2 start thanks to a select few WRs who are on fire.

 
corpcow said:
Two Deep said:
Who would have thought Cotchery with a new QB would drop 7-165 on Baltimore
I've been saying all along that Cotchery is going to be a stud... I said he was a SOLID WR2 and people laughed at me. Oh well.
He's showing signs of being a stud in NFL terms, but a long way from a FF one. Still, his upside looks considerably higher with Clemens back there compared with Chad.
 
I wonder if the rule changes for pass interference, no contact after 5, etc. are affecting CB performance. CBs are trying to play within the rules whereas last year they tried to do it the same old way and were flagged?

 
Chase, is RB scoring down?
I can't say if RB scoring is down, but it sure seems like the top RBs aren't playing too well.I posted this in its own thread, but it likely belongs here:If you compare the top WRs with the top RBs you notice something odd. The WRs are putting up big points while the RBs are really struggling. Will this trend continue or is it an odd abberation? What is the impact?WRs (by preseason rankings) and their standard scoring fantasy points 1. Steve Smith-- 512. CJ-- 483. TO-- 364. Harrison-- 235. Wayne -- 316. Roy Williams-- 277. Holt-- 278. Lee Evans-- yikes!9. Andre Johnson-- 4510. Fitz-- 1011. Driver-- 2012. TJ--3013. Plax-- 4114. Javon Walker-- 2115. Colston-- 1716. Boldin-- 1617. Braylon-- 3218. Ward-- 1619. Randy Moss-- 4620. Galloway-- 32The only real disappointment here is Evans. Fitz needs to be better, but its nothing to panic over. Nearly every other player is performing at or above expectations. RBs (by preseason rankings) and their standard scoring fantasy points 1. LT-- 24 2. SJax-- 113. LJ-- 174. Gore-- 345. Addai-- 356. Alexander-- 317. Parker-- 288. Westrook-- 13 **** only played 1 game9. Bush-- 1110. Rudi-- 2411. Maroney-- 1412. McGahee-- 2713. Henry-- 3114. Brown-- 1415. Edge-- 3816. Jones-Drew 817. Jacobs-- HURT18. Benson-- 1419. TJones-- 1320. Deuce-- 8I'd say Gore, Addai, Alexander, Parker, Rudi, McGahee, Henry and Edge are the only backs to perform at or above expecations. Thats only 6 of the top 20 backs compared to 18 of the top 20 WRs. Break it down even further. LJ is the 10th best RB among those listed with 17 points. Only 4 WRs have scored less then LJ (and Boldin/Ward are only 1 point short). What is going on???
 
Chase, is RB scoring down?
I can't say if RB scoring is down, but it sure seems like the top RBs aren't playing too well.I posted this in its own thread, but it likely belongs here:If you compare the top WRs with the top RBs you notice something odd. The WRs are putting up big points while the RBs are really struggling. Will this trend continue or is it an odd abberation? What is the impact?WRs (by preseason rankings) and their standard scoring fantasy points 1. Steve Smith-- 512. CJ-- 483. TO-- 364. Harrison-- 235. Wayne -- 316. Roy Williams-- 277. Holt-- 278. Lee Evans-- yikes!9. Andre Johnson-- 4510. Fitz-- 1011. Driver-- 2012. TJ--3013. Plax-- 4114. Javon Walker-- 2115. Colston-- 1716. Boldin-- 1617. Braylon-- 3218. Ward-- 1619. Randy Moss-- 4620. Galloway-- 32The only real disappointment here is Evans. Fitz needs to be better, but its nothing to panic over. Nearly every other player is performing at or above expectations. RBs (by preseason rankings) and their standard scoring fantasy points 1. LT-- 24 2. SJax-- 113. LJ-- 174. Gore-- 345. Addai-- 356. Alexander-- 317. Parker-- 288. Westrook-- 13 **** only played 1 game9. Bush-- 1110. Rudi-- 2411. Maroney-- 1412. McGahee-- 2713. Henry-- 3114. Brown-- 1415. Edge-- 3816. Jones-Drew 817. Jacobs-- HURT18. Benson-- 1419. TJones-- 1320. Deuce-- 8I'd say Gore, Addai, Alexander, Parker, Rudi, McGahee, Henry and Edge are the only backs to perform at or above expecations. Thats only 6 of the top 20 backs compared to 18 of the top 20 WRs. Break it down even further. LJ is the 10th best RB among those listed with 17 points. Only 4 WRs have scored less then LJ (and Boldin/Ward are only 1 point short). What is going on???
As an LJ owner, I wasn't expecting a big start. Houston is better than expected and the Bears are even more solid with that KC pass O showing badness. Im hoping to reap the rewards later. And after 2 weeks for a guy who hasn't played preseason with an O like that, it ain't that bad, right?!For the WR's, I'm not surprised about the guys that got off to a HOT start, Im just surprised about how many got off to a great startAnd for RB's, I had big ? marks on Bush and Maroney as first round picks. Thats proven correct. I expect all other expected 1st Round RBs to end up with just #s and Bush and Maroney lagging
 
Who would have thought Cotchery with a new QB would drop 7-165 on Baltimore
clemens has the deep arm and cotchery gets deep.if they bounce back and forth with the QB, the jets could be like the bills of a few years ago with moulds being more productive with holcomb in and evans being more productive with losman.(although the difference wouldn't be as drastic, both QBs get both WRs involved. the '05 bills were all or nothing.)
 
You're correct, WRs are going off crazy right now.

Donte' Stallworth (222/2) was the top fantasy WR after two weeks last season. SIX wide receivers have more than 35 FPs this year.

In fact, from 2002-2006, ZERO wide receivers scored 40 FPs after two weeks. Terrell Owens, with 4 TDs in 2004, was closest. This year? Five wide receivers have over 40 FPs after two games.

So it happened zero times in '02, zero times in '03, zero times in '04, zero times in '05, zero times in '06, and then five times in '07. Yeah, something is in the water this year.
Wasn't there some rule change on CBs bumping WRs or something?Are we seeing the effects of this rule change?

 
The strange thing so far is the top WR's predicted are playing at their study level with little surprises from journeymen and youngsters. Andre Johnson is now part of the "stud crowd" it seems.

On the flip side LT, LJ and Bush are "busts" so far....and usually the RB's are more predictable.

Its only 2 weeks though...lots can change.

 
PPR League, we have 3 WRs over 30 ppg.10 WRs over 20 ppg. 15 WRs over 17.8 ppg (which was the per game average for the #1 WR last year in our league)What in the world is going on? Trend or will these numbers come back down?
This is the first year I have played in a PPR league. I noticed WRs are scoring alot of points. After 2 weeks some of the WRs are more valuable than RBs and QBs. It is the norm for WRs to score so many points in a PPR leagues?
 
pollardsvision said:
Who would have thought Cotchery with a new QB would drop 7-165 on Baltimore
clemens has the deep arm and cotchery gets deep.if they bounce back and forth with the QB, the jets could be like the bills of a few years ago with moulds being more productive with holcomb in and evans being more productive with losman.(although the difference wouldn't be as drastic, both QBs get both WRs involved. the '05 bills were all or nothing.)
Most of Cotchery's yards came on YAC, not by going deep.
 
here are the top 10 points(YTD) scored for RB,WRs, and TEs

this league is no PPR. top 4 are WRs and 6 out of the top 10 are WRs

Player W! W2 AVE YTD

Smith, Steve WR CAR 17 33 25 50

Johnson, Chad WR CIN 15 32 23.5 47

Moss, Randy WR NE 24 22 23 46

Johnson, Andre WR HOU 20 24 22 44

Burress, Plaxico WR NYG 32 9 20.5 41

James, Edgerrin RB ARI 17 20 18.5 37

Jordan, LaMont RB OAK 21 15 18 36

Owens, Terrell WR DAL 20 15 17.5 35

Barber, Marion RB DAL 14 20 17 34

Peterson, Adrian RB MIN 22 11 16.5 33

this league is a PPR league

top 6 are WRs and 9 of the 10 are WRs or TE

Player W1 W2 Avg Total

Smith, Steve WR CAR 24 41 32.5 65

Johnson, Chad WR CIN 20 43 31.5 63

Moss, Randy WR NE 33 30 31.5 63

Johnson, Andre WR HOU 27 31 29 58

Burress, Plaxico WR NYG 40 11 25.5 51

Houshmandzadeh, T.J. WR CIN 20 26 23 46

Jordan, LaMont RB OAK 30 15 22.5 45

Gates, Antonio TE SD 25 20 22.5 45

Owens, Terrell WR DAL 23 20 21.5 43

Wayne, Reggie WR IND 30 12 21 42

 
yinzer said:
Chase, is RB scoring down?
I can't say if RB scoring is down, but it sure seems like the top RBs aren't playing too well.I posted this in its own thread, but it likely belongs here:If you compare the top WRs with the top RBs you notice something odd. The WRs are putting up big points while the RBs are really struggling. Will this trend continue or is it an odd abberation? What is the impact?I'd say Gore, Addai, Alexander, Parker, Rudi, McGahee, Henry and Edge are the only backs to perform at or above expecations. Thats only 6 of the top 20 backs compared to 18 of the top 20 WRs. Break it down even further. LJ is the 10th best RB among those listed with 17 points. Only 4 WRs have scored less then LJ (and Boldin/Ward are only 1 point short). What is going on???
As an LJ owner, I wasn't expecting a big start. Houston is better than expected and the Bears are even more solid with that KC pass O showing badness. Im hoping to reap the rewards later. And after 2 weeks for a guy who hasn't played preseason with an O like that, it ain't that bad, right?!For the WR's, I'm not surprised about the guys that got off to a HOT start, Im just surprised about how many got off to a great startAnd for RB's, I had big ? marks on Bush and Maroney as first round picks. Thats proven correct. I expect all other expected 1st Round RBs to end up with just #s and Bush and Maroney lagging
I picked up Maroney in the 3rd, and he still sucks so far. Either that shoulder still concerns Yoda, or Yoda just flat out does not trust him inside the 10 yard line for goal line work.
 
Year of the WR & not RB.

Safe to say right now most teams winning their leagues are because of WR play and not RB play

 
I wonder if the rule changes for pass interference, no contact after 5, etc. are affecting CB performance. CBs are trying to play within the rules whereas last year they tried to do it the same old way and were flagged?
This is just a hunch but I have seen alot of games this year (NFL Sunday Ticket). One thing that sticks out in my mind is that I haven't seen very many offensive holding calls this year. Yes this should be helping the running game as well as the passing, but the most important thing for long passes is protection - so I think the passing game would benefit more from a more lenient holding policy this year by the referees.Is there anyway I can check the stats on this gut feeling?
 
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Steve Smith is the only guy I can see keeping his pace. Would not surprised me one bit if he broke the TD record this season with the way he is playing. Man among boys out there...

 
yinzer said:
Chase, is RB scoring down?
I can't say if RB scoring is down, but it sure seems like the top RBs aren't playing too well.I posted this in its own thread, but it likely belongs here:If you compare the top WRs with the top RBs you notice something odd. The WRs are putting up big points while the RBs are really struggling. Will this trend continue or is it an odd abberation? What is the impact?WRs (by preseason rankings) and their standard scoring fantasy points 1. Steve Smith-- 512. CJ-- 483. TO-- 364. Harrison-- 235. Wayne -- 316. Roy Williams-- 277. Holt-- 278. Lee Evans-- yikes!9. Andre Johnson-- 4510. Fitz-- 1011. Driver-- 2012. TJ--3013. Plax-- 4114. Javon Walker-- 2115. Colston-- 1716. Boldin-- 1617. Braylon-- 3218. Ward-- 1619. Randy Moss-- 4620. Galloway-- 32The only real disappointment here is Evans. Fitz needs to be better, but its nothing to panic over. Nearly every other player is performing at or above expectations. RBs (by preseason rankings) and their standard scoring fantasy points 1. LT-- 24 2. SJax-- 113. LJ-- 174. Gore-- 345. Addai-- 356. Alexander-- 317. Parker-- 288. Westrook-- 13 **** only played 1 game9. Bush-- 1110. Rudi-- 2411. Maroney-- 1412. McGahee-- 2713. Henry-- 3114. Brown-- 1415. Edge-- 3816. Jones-Drew 817. Jacobs-- HURT18. Benson-- 1419. TJones-- 1320. Deuce-- 8I'd say Gore, Addai, Alexander, Parker, Rudi, McGahee, Henry and Edge are the only backs to perform at or above expecations. Thats only 6 of the top 20 backs compared to 18 of the top 20 WRs. Break it down even further. LJ is the 10th best RB among those listed with 17 points. Only 4 WRs have scored less then LJ (and Boldin/Ward are only 1 point short). What is going on???
As an LJ owner, I wasn't expecting a big start. Houston is better than expected and the Bears are even more solid with that KC pass O showing badness. Im hoping to reap the rewards later. And after 2 weeks for a guy who hasn't played preseason with an O like that, it ain't that bad, right?!For the WR's, I'm not surprised about the guys that got off to a HOT start, Im just surprised about how many got off to a great startAnd for RB's, I had big ? marks on Bush and Maroney as first round picks. Thats proven correct. I expect all other expected 1st Round RBs to end up with just #s and Bush and Maroney lagging
I wouldn't call LJ's start a "bust" like some others have. It is slow and disappointing, but when compared to the othet top 20 RBs, he isn't doing as bad as it would appear. He seems to be a victim of the general RB trend.
 
It may still be a little early to know if this is fluke or if there is something to it.

So far the proof is in the pudding for me. I'm in 2 leagues this season. I went WR, WR with a late 1st round pick in 1 and RB, RB with a mid 1st round pick in the other.

I'm 2-0 in the WR, WR league and 0-2 in the RB, RB league.

I will definately keep an eye on this throughout the season. It could drastically effect my strategy next year..

 
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