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BAT1man

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I don't know but I am getting some serious vibes/gut feelings that Favre is primed to go off.

Reasons:

1 - Potentially his last game in Lambeau

2 - Home game with temp under 35 degrees (he is money in such situations)

3 - His best game of 2006 came against the Vikes

4 - The Vikes D is designed to shut down the run and they do it well, forcing opponents to pass

5 - Pennington just had a big game against the Vikes

6 - Favre is coming off a bad personal performance and will want to erase that from our minds

7 - Prime time Nationally televised game on a big stage, where big players have big games

8 - Pack is still in the playoff hunt but have to win out

9 - Favre needs only 7 tds to take the all time td record from Marino with 2 games left. He'll be swinging for the fences.

I'm not saying you bench a Manning/Brees/Vick for him but he should be one of the better options at qb this week.

I predict 300+ yds, 3 tds, 1 int

Am I crazy? :thumbup: :(

 
I guess I don't understand the logic behind the "last game" theory. It's not like a quarterback will suddenly try harder or a defense will play down.

In looking at your reasons:

1. Last game will probably have little effect on the outcome of his performance.

2. Favre has not been money lately under 35 degrees and has not been money at home either.

3. I thought his best game was against the Lions in Detroit? Maybe his second best was against the Vikings. Both on the road. Odd.

4. People pass on the Vikings because the pass de is bad.

5. Yeah, Pennington did have a money game though only threw one TD.

6. I don't think Favre cares too much about his performance last week and I am certain he doesn't care what we think. I think he was just happy to get the W.

7. Effect of prime time. Favre is a good prime time player but he traditionally has had more weapons than he has now.

8. Pack need to win. No doubt about this.

9. Favre is not getting the TD record this year. And if he plays to swing for the fences, he should retire particularly since the team is still in playoff contention.

Big Packer homer here. I hope Brett goes out and crushes the Vikings. But he hasn't done it often this year and not at home even against a poor Lions team last week. I may be wrong but I just don't see it. I am benching him (over Garcia or Bulger).

 
Reasons:1 - Potentially his last game in Lambeau2 - Home game with temp under 35 degrees (he is money in such situations)3 - His best game of 2006 came against the Vikes4 - The Vikes D is designed to shut down the run and they do it well, forcing opponents to pass5 - Pennington just had a big game against the Vikes6 - Favre is coming off a bad personal performance and will want to erase that from our minds7 - Prime time Nationally televised game on a big stage, where big players have big games8 - Pack is still in the playoff hunt but have to win out9 - Favre needs only 7 tds to take the all time td record from Marino with 2 games left. He'll be swinging for the fences.
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I think these mean nothing when the kickoff starts. It all sounds great, and I wish Favre would throw for 300 yards and 4 tds. But in the end, you can expect Favre to be 200/1/2, and i'm a Packer fan. In my mind, this game as 10-7 written all over it.
 
Favre usually comes back strong after laying a stinker like he did last week vs the Lions. I'm banking on it...literally. I have several bets in on this game.

 
This is probably the classic trap game as last week was. Yes, the stars are aligned and would make for a perfect story, etc. but at the end of the day he needs to go out and throw the football and his receivers need to CATCH the ball unlike last week when they dropped a couple TD's and tipped several others for int's....

One thing that concerns me is how the Packers were perfectly happy to mail it in last week in the 2nd half and not try anything to score more points while holding only a small lead. My concern is that with Jackson in his 1st start/Chester banged up that Minn may have a tough time moving the ball and the Pack being happy getting a 13-3 lead and sitting on it. 3 and out, punt and try to contain the rook.

The best case scenario IMO is Jackson comes out throwing and gets Minn up by a couple scores. I don't think that happens but that would lead to a very nice day by Favre.

 
New England and the Jets laid out the blueprint on how to beat Minnesota. Was Green Bay paying attention? Spread the field, go empty backfield, pass all day. If Green Bay goes that route, I think they're successful, and I think they win the game.

 
Man in the yellow hat said:
New England and the Jets laid out the blueprint on how to beat Minnesota. Was Green Bay paying attention? Spread the field, go empty backfield, pass all day. If Green Bay goes that route, I think they're successful, and I think they win the game.
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They also provided the blueprint on how to kick the crap out of the Packers. Ugly, ugly sight. NE @ GB 35-0NYJ @ GB 38-10
 
Man in the yellow hat said:
New England and the Jets laid out the blueprint on how to beat Minnesota. Was Green Bay paying attention? Spread the field, go empty backfield, pass all day. If Green Bay goes that route, I think they're successful, and I think they win the game.
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After the NE game when the Pack played Minn (in Minn) Favre threw for 347-2-0 so they used it already and I'd imagine they'd do it again. Driver had a monster 191-1 game (an 82 yard td) last time they played....
 
Sandeman said:
Man in the yellow hat said:
New England and the Jets laid out the blueprint on how to beat Minnesota. Was Green Bay paying attention? Spread the field, go empty backfield, pass all day. If Green Bay goes that route, I think they're successful, and I think they win the game.
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They also provided the blueprint on how to kick the crap out of the Packers. Ugly, ugly sight. NE @ GB 35-0NYJ @ GB 38-10
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Do you have a point? I'm faling to see what this has to do with Favre vs. Minnesota.
 
Man in the yellow hat said:
Sandeman said:
Man in the yellow hat said:
New England and the Jets laid out the blueprint on how to beat Minnesota. Was Green Bay paying attention? Spread the field, go empty backfield, pass all day. If Green Bay goes that route, I think they're successful, and I think they win the game.
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They also provided the blueprint on how to kick the crap out of the Packers. Ugly, ugly sight. NE @ GB 35-0NYJ @ GB 38-10
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Do you have a point? I'm faling to see what this has to do with Favre vs. Minnesota.
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No, not really. Just an observation.Still, I wouldn't expect much. Favre was bad last week against a team he owned earlier in the year.
 
Sandeman said:
Man in the yellow hat said:
Sandeman said:
Man in the yellow hat said:
New England and the Jets laid out the blueprint on how to beat Minnesota. Was Green Bay paying attention? Spread the field, go empty backfield, pass all day. If Green Bay goes that route, I think they're successful, and I think they win the game.
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They also provided the blueprint on how to kick the crap out of the Packers. Ugly, ugly sight. NE @ GB 35-0NYJ @ GB 38-10
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Do you have a point? I'm faling to see what this has to do with Favre vs. Minnesota.
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No, not really. Just an observation.Still, I wouldn't expect much. Favre was bad last week against a team he owned earlier in the year.
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It's funny there is often a fine line between good and bad. GB dropped 2 easy td's, at least one of which was turned into a pick the next play. If those easily catchable balls are caught Favre is on his way to a 200-2-1 game as opposed to a 174-0-3 game.
 
Big Packer fan here, and I tend to agree with what has already been said. I have to choose between Favre and Romo this week and originally had Favre in the lineup. Phi=bad rush defense, Min=bad pass defense, etc., but I don't have alot of confidence in Favre right now. He may bring it this week, but he did nothing last week vs. Detroit. Romo has more weapons and the TO vs. Philly factor. Tauscher is back which should help Favre, but with Jackson starting, the Min run-first philosophy, and the weather, I could see this being a low scoring game.

 
Don't get me wrong. I'm a Packer homer. But the data suggests Favre is not a safe bet this week.

Compare Favre's HvA splits.

Home vs. Away

Games 7-7

TDs 6-11

Yards 1371-1944

Comp% 54-59

QB rating 65-83

And recently something is not right. What is it? I don't know for certain but I would guess it's got a lot to do with a worn out, injured, inexperienced WR and TE corps.

 
Man in the yellow hat said:
Sandeman said:
Man in the yellow hat said:
New England and the Jets laid out the blueprint on how to beat Minnesota. Was Green Bay paying attention? Spread the field, go empty backfield, pass all day. If Green Bay goes that route, I think they're successful, and I think they win the game.
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They also provided the blueprint on how to kick the crap out of the Packers. Ugly, ugly sight. NE @ GB 35-0NYJ @ GB 38-10
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Do you have a point? I'm faling to see what this has to do with Favre vs. Minnesota.
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He means that Brady or Pennington > FavreHeck, Brady - Pennington > Favre :eek: :pokey: Two 6-8 teams with dwindling playoff hopes, Thursday game, no Favre butt-kissing on national TV by John Madden, instead we are stuck with Bryant Gumboring :unsure: .Sure seems like we're getting screwed out of a great rivalry week. Where is the :argue: ?
 
Sandeman said:
I guess I don't understand the logic behind the "last game" theory. It's not like a quarterback will suddenly try harder or a defense will play down.
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No, but the people calling the plays may open it up more than normal, which could result in a larger than normal day.If I was the play caller and I knew it was Farver's last game, you better believe I'd throw a few extra deep passes or things that would make him look extra special or at least give him the chance to.
 
I guess we can't tell yet if my gut feeling was right or not but, after one half of play, he has thrown for more attempts than any other time in his 16 year career and he does have 175 yard.

No td's yet, but those are some better than usual (for Favre) numbers I'd say...

 
BAT1man said:
I guess we can't tell yet if my gut feeling was right or not but, after one half of play, he has thrown for more attempts than any other time in his 16 year career and he does have 175 yard.No td's yet, but those are some better than usual (for Favre) numbers I'd say...
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Yeah, it's only been a half. Weather isn't all that great. His attempts and yards aren't too shabby, which is encouraging if you have Favre in any playoff games. But that is a pretty good Viking defense and they've stopped him so far...All I hope for is Driver to get a LOT of yards (for one league I'm in) but no TDs (my opponent in a TD only league has him)... :thumbdown:
 
I dont think you are nuts.

In fact I think he was primed for a big game.

It just didnt materialize.

He threw it 50 times in a game that was close all the way.

Greg Jennings had 1 catch for 2 yards. But he had 10 passes thrown his way, including 3 deep balls and the only end zone target. He was primed also. It just didnt happen. Fantasyfootball can be fickle like that.

 
Banger said:
This is probably the classic trap game as last week was. Yes, the stars are aligned and would make for a perfect story, etc. but at the end of the day he needs to go out and throw the football and his receivers need to CATCH the ball unlike last week when they dropped a couple TD's and tipped several others for int's....One thing that concerns me is how the Packers were perfectly happy to mail it in last week in the 2nd half and not try anything to score more points while holding only a small lead. My concern is that with Jackson in his 1st start/Chester banged up that Minn may have a tough time moving the ball and the Pack being happy getting a 13-3 lead and sitting on it. 3 and out, punt and try to contain the rook. The best case scenario IMO is Jackson comes out throwing and gets Minn up by a couple scores. I don't think that happens but that would lead to a very nice day by Favre.
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I should have listened to myself....
 
BAT1man said:
Ok...that ended badly. :bag: I guess I am certifiably :crazy: :yes:
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Do these threads ever end well? Not saying you were wrong to expect a big game - everyone has been torching Vikes secondary and Favre did throw 50 times, he just couldn't get them to the end zone (and when he did Franks fumbled). Just seems anytime there's a thread about someone about to blow up it doesn't happen. There was the Driver thread talking about his avg vs Vikes and why he should have a big game. Last week we had the thread about Rudi smoking Indy.....maybe we should add the Shark Pool jinx to the Madden jinx etc.
 
BAT1man said:
Ok...that ended badly. :bag: I guess I am certifiably :crazy: :yes:
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no yur not. If anyone on that team other than Driver could actually HOLD ON to a CATCHABLE ball, Favre most likely would have gone for 350 and 2 TDs. Franks absolutely killed them last night, and Jennings seems to have hit the "rookie wall" as of late.
 
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