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Just heard on WFAN in New York.
So then, the obvious question. Carter or Moss?ETA: I guess Tyree is in the picture as well huh?Just heard on WFAN in New York.
I was thinking Carter. He's actually a pretty decent WR if I remember correctly.Tim Carter.Waiver wire.Do it..... NOW!
Moss hasn't been healthy so he isn't in the picture until he's able to suit up. Not sure I'd get too excited over the guy who's the #4 target after Plexico, Shockey, and Tiki. Toomer has had one big game and not much else, hasn't he?So then, the obvious question. Carter or Moss?ETA: I guess Tyree is in the picture as well huh?Just heard on WFAN in New York.
What makes you think that it will be Carter?Tim Carter.Waiver wire.Do it..... NOW!
who?I need a WR bad, guys. Picking the right guy "#4 target" or not could help me out.Mike Jennings, anyone?
Tim Carter is pretty fast, I'll go with him.WR Plaxico Burress (inj), Amani Toomer, Tim Carter, David Tyree (inj), Sinorice Moss (inj), Michael Jennings (PR
hmmm which one?
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could be. a change of pace might make for an explosive game or two out of a relative unknown.You guys kill me.Amani Toomer, who save for one big game, was having a terrible season. But the guy who can't beat EVEN HIM out is gonna step in and be a fantasy proucer?![]()
That kind of thinking can cause you to miss out on a lot of solid performers. Sure, the likelyhood of Carter or someone else stepping into a starting role and exploding is not highly likely but several players over the years have stepped into an opportunity and carried teams to titles. If your roster is deep enough, why not take a chance. In the NFL it takes talent and opportunity. Steve Smith was not a starter when he entered the league either. I am willing to cut someone from a deep roster and take a chance.You guys kill me.Amani Toomer, who save for one big game, was having a terrible season. But the guy who can't beat EVEN HIM out is gonna step in and be a fantasy proucer?![]()
Sure, I get that. All it takes is opportunity for some guys. He would sit in my 8th WR spot too.But start him? You're telling me that Tim Carter/Mike Jennings immediately become fantasy starter material because Toomer went down?That kind of thinking can cause you to miss out on a lot of solid performers. Sure, the likelyhood of Carter or someone else stepping into a starting role and exploding is not highly likely but several players over the years have stepped into an opportunity and carried teams to titles. If your roster is deep enough, why not take a chance. In the NFL it takes talent and opportunity. Steve Smith was not a starter when he entered the league either. I am willing to cut someone from a deep roster and take a chance.You guys kill me.Amani Toomer, who save for one big game, was having a terrible season. But the guy who can't beat EVEN HIM out is gonna step in and be a fantasy proucer?![]()
Domination has the right move. Of Carter, Jennings and Tyree, Carter is likely to be the most productive, but I see those three splitting Toomer's targets (assuming Burress comes back this week).Its a better move to try to upgrade your tight end by grabbing Shockey. If you have the room to take a flyer on one of the WR's fine, but it's a long shot for any of them to be productive. Shockey has been inconsistent all year and mildly injured so the owner might be willing to part with him (assuming he doesn't read this post) if you make a decent offer.Heck if you can offer two second or third tier WRs for him, then you clear the bench space to take a flyer on Jennings and friends.If you are in a dynasty league and headed to the fantasy post season go for Barber. With all the injuries he is bound to get a lion's share of the load. Point to his pending retirement as the reason for your lowball offer, and try to snag him for future prospects.I think that Shockey will get a huge boost to his value. I was wondering if that could put him at a comperable value to Gates?
Thank you.I don't see anyone in the receiving corps benefitting from this other than Shockey and Barber. Toomer had 3 targets in week 8. With Plaxico out, he had 4 (caught 2). Shockey had 10 targets (caught 8) including a TD.Carter/Tyree/Jennings will likely be too hot/cold to justify the roster spot.
No it's a different one.Is this the same Tim Carter who started last week and had 1 catch for 15 yards?
Terrible Season? He was tied for team lead in receptions...he was actually having a pretty decent season and was a solid WR3.You guys kill me.Amani Toomer, who save for one big game, was having a terrible season. But the guy who can't beat EVEN HIM out is gonna step in and be a fantasy proucer?![]()
Take out the Philly game, and no he's not. 1 IND 5 41 8.2 02 PHI 12 137 11.4 23 SEA 3 29 9.7 15 WAS 4 81 20.3 06 ATL 2 18 9.0 07 DAL 3 26 8.7 08 TB 1 12 12.0 09 HOU 2 16 8.0 0Those aren't the stats of a "solid WR3". Not in any of the leagues I play in, at least.Terrible Season? He was tied for team lead in receptions...he was actually having a pretty decent season and was a solid WR3.You guys kill me.Amani Toomer, who save for one big game, was having a terrible season. But the guy who can't beat EVEN HIM out is gonna step in and be a fantasy proucer?![]()
If you're not in a PPR league, you don't get points for effort.Terrible Season? He was tied for team lead in receptions...he was actually having a pretty decent season and was a solid WR3.You guys kill me.Amani Toomer, who save for one big game, was having a terrible season. But the guy who can't beat EVEN HIM out is gonna step in and be a fantasy proucer?![]()
I would certainly cut him if you can add a solid WR prospect like Travis Wilson, DJ Hackett, Demetrius Williams, but I don't think Toomer's career is over. The big question is whether he'll be a starter when he comes back - The progress of Sinorice Moss likely holds the answer to that.For us dynasty owners: What do you do with Toomer?Season ending injury and I believe he will be 33 when the season starts next year. I am trying to decide if he is worth hanging onto in a dynasty league or is his career basically over with his age and the injury.
In the game thread I had posted something like "wait, he had a screen pass too". I went back with the DVR and he sure did. He caught it and ran for 5-6 yards. I emailed Stats and they said they were aware of it but I haven't seen a scoring change. Maybe today.Is this the same Tim Carter who started last week and had 1 catch for 15 yards?
Moss can't make progress when he's hurt. Carter has a chance to step up. Toomer is a vet they all look to like Muhsin in Chicago. He's gonna be hard to bench due to "intangibles" esp with Tiki retiring.It's hard not to root for Jennings. The guy didn't even play football much and was signed because he's fast. He's still learning everything. Boy does he say the right thing too. My fave comment was when he was asked what it will take to make the team "I don't know, I never made an NFL team before". He used to work out hoping to make a team. Now during the week he works out more than most NFL players hoping to play. Just a great great attitude and work ethic. He had a catch and you could see a big smile as he got up and the cameras were zoomed in after the tackle. For a sec, he was proud then bolted to the huddle like oh sh. Very inexperienced but fun reaction. I really like that guy.No clue why the Giants don't have him returning kicks and punts. Morton's real unimpressive and doesn't run like he did with the Jets and Skins.I would certainly cut him if you can add a solid WR prospect like Travis Wilson, DJ Hackett, Demetrius Williams, but I don't think Toomer's career is over. The big question is whether he'll be a starter when he comes back - The progress of Sinorice Moss likely holds the answer to that.For us dynasty owners: What do you do with Toomer?Season ending injury and I believe he will be 33 when the season starts next year. I am trying to decide if he is worth hanging onto in a dynasty league or is his career basically over with his age and the injury.