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Amendola Trade Value Now (1 Viewer)

Still getting offered Decker for Amendola. PPR league. Now some picks added into the mix that favour me. Can't get a read on how much Welker will impact Decker's value but it will be fairly substantial I think. Not going to rush into a deal as the Amendola PPR hype is only going to increase from here as the season approaches.
Or decrease when he gets hurt washing his car or trying read the news paper.Easy accept.
 
My offer of 1.8, 2014 1st (mid-late ) and Stephen Hill was promptly rejected with a not even close if that helps.
Thats a bit silly to say not close. I have a feeling when he shops him around he will realize that was about what he will get.
He does know that I am a huge pats fan and probably was looking for max value.. But I can't go much further than that.
I'm in this same league, and he offered me Mathews and Amendola for Spiller. After I chuckled a bit, I just told him this wasn't close....
 
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Please don't mind me chiming in on your discussion--and I don't think there is anything wrong with an Amendola owner rejecting a trade for a late first round draft pick--as everybody is entitled to their opinions when it comes to players values--but I think the main point is in regards to being "offended" or "insulted" by an offer of that. If you look back just a few years--guys like stevan ridley, alfred morris, kyle rudolph, russell wilson, cam newton, demarco murray, colin kaepernick, torrey smith, rob gronkowski, jimmy graham..and many more were all projected to go in the late first round or later in rookie fantasy drafts. Assuming that you already have one pick in the first round--and have an opportunity for a 2nd first round pick in exchange for a guy that has historically been unreliable at best (sure--Amendola can be good when healthy--but anybody would agree that if you have counted on him to bring your team decently consistent fantasy success--you have been nothing but disappointed up to this point)--there is nothing to be insulted about. My main point is that any first round pick is extremely valuable--because of potential--as well as flexibility. If you have two first round picks--you could in turn move one of them to trade for a guy where he's not overvalued because of hype alone. For example--if I had two first round picks--I would consider trying to buy low on a guy like Larry Fitzgerald...thats just what I would do--but I can totally understand why somebody would want to keep Amendola. I just can't understand why anybody would be offended by a first round pick as an offer.

'osubuckeyeman said:
Right now, given his injury history, a late first (11/12) or high second seems about right to me. His owners probably won't sell for that, though.
As an Amendola owner, I think I would be insulted if offered that.
"insulted" at a late first would imply you think he's worth a lot more than that.So what do you think is he worth?
As a non Amendola owner, the most I would offer is a late first--1.10 or later. For you to take offense is pretty sensitive. It isn't like he is a proven stud and he has consistently had health issues. If you can't stay healthy, it can sink a promising career.
Well, I understand your view, but there would be no real reason to make a deal for that as a Amendola owner. The potential is worth more to the owner to take a chance on Amendola's health then the player the 1.10 would bring. I would prefer to keep D.A. and chance his health than get rookie potential of the 1.10.
 
Amendola was being drafted in the 6th rd in mid- lateAugust last season in redrafts. That was with (1) Bradford @ QB (coming off a 2011 season in which he was hardly even a QB2), (2) a plethora of WRs in STL, (3) Amendola was coming off of a 2011 season in which he missed 5 games due to injury. I think that 6th round price last year (even with the aforementioned variables) will equate to a 4th-rounder this season in redrafts, regardless of whether NE resigns Edelman and/or signs E Sanders. And 4th-rd WRs in 12-team redrafts are Top 15-20 receivers. That commands MUCH more than any 1st-rd pick. That's more realistically TWO 1st-rounders. That's the price I'm selling him for anyways. In other words, I'm NOT selling him. Because no one is paying that price.

In a draft masters redraft I participated in on Sat 3/16, Amendola went at 34th Overall as the #9 WR drafted. While that's way too high (considering he went before Roddy, Harvin, Cruz, Cobb, Nelson, Fitz, Nicks, and others), it does illustrate the perceived value that is prevalent right now for Amendola.

 
As I mentioned before in regards to being "insulted" by someone offering me pick 10 for Amendola..........I am not necessarily insulted by the offer itself, but I would have been insulted if someone offered it to me directly after hearing the news of him signing in New England.

Before Amendola even left the Rams, an offer of pick 10 would have been about right.

Offering me pick 10 directly after he went to New England would have been insulting because it would seem like you would hope I would accept it before I heard the news. Or that you think I am too stupid to check up on the latest news about a player I am trading away before I hit the accept button.

It's like hearing that a player just tore his ACL in practice and then offering me that player for something of equal value when he was healthy. Along the same lines as that.

Kinda like I am sure all the Reggie Bush owners got 50 offers for him within 10 minutes of Detroit signing him.

And the post above lists Amendola going real high in the draft masters redraft. Yes that is too high, but it does show his value spike. Pick 10 really isn't all that close.

I could go offer pick 3 in every league I am in and I guarantee I get turned down.

 
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Before Amendola even left the Rams, an offer of pick 10 would have been about right.
:no:
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=674829&st=150Let me go ahead and refer you to the startup thread BEFORE Amendola left the Rams.Latest one on there from I think March 2nd has Amendola 8th round. No way the 10th rookie goes before that.
One draft does not equate to value. But we get it, you like Amendola... a lot.
 
This trade just went down in my dynasty league:

The Conservatives gave up:

Pead, Isaiah STL RB

Richardson, Daryl STL RB

Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR

Wack Pack gave up:

James, LaMichael SFO RB

Amendola, Danny NEP WR

 
As I mentioned before in regards to being "insulted" by someone offering me pick 10 for Amendola..........I am not necessarily insulted by the offer itself, but I would have been insulted if someone offered it to me directly after hearing the news of him signing in New England. Before Amendola even left the Rams, an offer of pick 10 would have been about right.Offering me pick 10 directly after he went to New England would have been insulting because it would seem like you would hope I would accept it before I heard the news. Or that you think I am too stupid to check up on the latest news about a player I am trading away before I hit the accept button. It's like hearing that a player just tore his ACL in practice and then offering me that player for something of equal value when he was healthy. Along the same lines as that.Kinda like I am sure all the Reggie Bush owners got 50 offers for him within 10 minutes of Detroit signing him.And the post above lists Amendola going real high in the draft masters redraft. Yes that is too high, but it does show his value spike. Pick 10 really isn't all that close. I could go offer pick 3 in every league I am in and I guarantee I get turned down.
You might be right, but I generally presume an owner will check his players before trading. An offer coming shortly after a signing should simply tell you that the offeror is interested now, not that he thinks you're ignorant of your own players. People who get insulted about this stuff are generally too sensitive.
 
This trade just went down in my dynasty league:The Conservatives gave up:Pead, Isaiah STL RBRichardson, Daryl STL RBFitzgerald, Larry ARI WRWack Pack gave up:James, LaMichael SFO RBAmendola, Danny NEP WR
OK, I own Amendola everywhere, and I thought I valued him high. This is crazy.
 
Last year I traded for Amendole in a league where I have finished consistently in the top 4 teams. I had some injury issues early and traded my 2nd round pick for him. As is turned out I struggled with injuries all year and that pick finished at 2.05.

I was certainly happy to see Amendola land in New England and after reading this thread I decided to take a closer look at Amendola. It turns out Amendola finished last year at WR#35 on a PPG basis in my league. Some of that could be related to playing hurt or leaving a couple of games early but he still finished the year as a WR3. If you also look at his stats his career best receiving yards is 689 yards and his best TD total is 3.

I think New England is a great landing spot for him and his value may be at or near an all time high and I think 2013 will be his best season as a pro but in looking at his numbers I think I would have a hard time turning down late first round value for him. I think if I could get mid first round value I would have to accept that rather quickly.

 
Before Amendola even left the Rams, an offer of pick 10 would have been about right.
:no:
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=674829&st=150Let me go ahead and refer you to the startup thread BEFORE Amendola left the Rams.Latest one on there from I think March 2nd has Amendola 8th round. No way the 10th rookie goes before that.
One draft does not equate to value. But we get it, you like Amendola... a lot.
You are right. One draft does not equate to value.But what about EVERY draft?? I think that might. But I get it, you don't care for Amendola.
 
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wow--that is a pretty crazy trade. If you read my post from earlier in this thread--I had mentioned that if I owned Amendola, I would personally like to use the hype surrounding Amendola to trade for a first round pick--and in turn trade that pick for an under-hyped Larry Fitzgerald. I guess this goes to show the power of hype/projecting when it comes to fantasy football. Who knows--maybe when it's all said and done--Amendola might have a monster year--but I wouldn't bet giving up Larry Fitzgerald on that happening.

This trade just went down in my dynasty league:The Conservatives gave up:Pead, Isaiah STL RBRichardson, Daryl STL RBFitzgerald, Larry ARI WRWack Pack gave up:James, LaMichael SFO RBAmendola, Danny NEP WR
 
In new Englands I feel Welker got a lot of targets not because of his position but because of him.

I see no reason to think Amendola will jump in and get those targets, Brady throws to who is open or who he trusts.

I am not saying he's going to suck, but some people are way WAY over hyped on him right now.

 
This trade just went down in my dynasty league:The Conservatives gave up:Pead, Isaiah STL RBRichardson, Daryl STL RBFitzgerald, Larry ARI WRWack Pack gave up:James, LaMichael SFO RBAmendola, Danny NEP WR
That is the worst trade ever.
Yeah, I love Amendola but that's ridiculous. Fitz alone (maybe) would've been enough.
I agree that the trade is crazy. For reference, The Conservatives is a stacked team (AJ Green, Nicks, Andre Johnson, Fitz, Trent Richardson, Jimmy Graham, Aaron Rogers). He's a really good player, so it's not like he's a noob or anything making this trade.Wack Pack inherited a horrible team and is trying to rebuild it, so this is a step in the right direction for him.Overall, I think Conservatives thinks James will take over soon in SF, and Amendola will replicate Welker. But I think he overpaid.
 
The more I think about him in PPR, the more I like him. His injuries are a concern but in the games he does play, you'd have to expect plenty of targets. Like 6+ per game (up to 10+ in some games most likely). I offered Amendola + Reggie Bush for Julio and Hankerson. He replied that it's interesting.

 
The more I think about him in PPR, the more I like him. His injuries are a concern but in the games he does play, you'd have to expect plenty of targets. Like 6+ per game (up to 10+ in some games most likely). I offered Amendola + Reggie Bush for Julio and Hankerson. He replied that it's interesting.
For redraft one year not so bad, but wow, horrid for him if he does it
 
Amendola has always been severely underrated in PPR leagues. Before last season I was able to pick him up for almost nothing in every single league. In 2010(his 2nd yr)he finished 23rd, even ahead of Welker. 2011 missed the season, but had 5 catches in his single game. Last season finished 24th in PPG(1 catch away from finishing 18th). He's a good possession receiver that's been a WR2/3 in points per game the last 3 years, while playing in one of the worst offenses in the league. He should at minimum easily match that. I think it would be crazy to accept a late 1st rounder for him. No rookie this season has more potential than Amendola in NE and he also has a much higher floor.

In non ppr he's obviously he's worth much less. While I don't play in any non-ppr dynasty leagues, I'm guessing I probably wouldn't accept a mid 1st round pick for him but could see that being about his value.

 
This trade just went down in my dynasty league:The Conservatives gave up:Pead, Isaiah STL RBRichardson, Daryl STL RBFitzgerald, Larry ARI WRWack Pack gave up:James, LaMichael SFO RBAmendola, Danny NEP WR
wow that sucks for the amendola reciever, gave away fitz for that garbage... wow horrible trade

 
I received 1.09 for Amendola and traded down from 2.03 to 2.09 as part of the deal, in a 16-team dynasty league.

 
No PPR, but a WR gets a 3p bonus for 10 catches. I reviewed his history, he's only caught 10 balls or more three times. We also have a 75 yard bonus and 100 yard bonus and so on. He's only had over 75 yards three times and over 100 yards two times and over 150 yards once. This was when he was THE GUY in STL.

Do you think he's going to outproduce those numbers in NE on a consistent basis? Not me.

 
No PPR, but a WR gets a 3p bonus for 10 catches. I reviewed his history, he's only caught 10 balls or more three times. We also have a 75 yard bonus and 100 yard bonus and so on. He's only had over 75 yards three times and over 100 yards two times and over 150 yards once. This was when he was THE GUY in STL. Do you think he's going to outproduce those numbers in NE on a consistent basis? Not me.
Nope, I'm fine with that trade with your scoring.
 
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Right now, given his injury history, a late first (11/12) or high second seems about right to me. His owners probably won't sell for that, though.
As an Amendola owner, I think I would be insulted if offered that.
"insulted" at a late first would imply you think he's worth a lot more than that.So what do you think is he worth?
As a non Amendola owner, the most I would offer is a late first--1.10 or later. For you to take offense is pretty sensitive. It isn't like he is a proven stud and he has consistently had health issues. If you can't stay healthy, it can sink a promising career.
Well, I understand your view, but there would be no real reason to make a deal for that as a Amendola owner. The potential is worth more to the owner to take a chance on Amendola's health then the player the 1.10 would bring. I would prefer to keep D.A. and chance his health than get rookie potential of the 1.10.
Except for the possibility that the Pats draft two WR's in the 1st 4 rounds of the draft.

 
whenever the subject of Welker to Denver comes up ( usually at poker games) I keep hearing people saying 'Amendola is good, but ....'

what's being implied is his durability issues..

his value might not be higher than it is now..

with all the specuation about how well he will do, most people seem to consider him a good player,but as camp opens and preseason games begin, his injury risk goes way up..

he's made of glass..trade him now while he has high value..

 
whenever the subject of Welker to Denver comes up ( usually at poker games) I keep hearing people saying 'Amendola is good, but ....'

what's being implied is his durability issues..

his value might not be higher than it is now..

with all the specuation about how well he will do, most people seem to consider him a good player,but as camp opens and preseason games begin, his injury risk goes way up..

he's made of glass..trade him now while he has high value..
A dislocated elbow and a broken collarbone can happen to any NLF player. And if you think that conclusively proves that he is injury prone, could you provide some links to any medical study that confirms your opinion?

 
cstu said:
This trade just went down in my dynasty league:The Conservatives gave up:Pead, Isaiah STL RBRichardson, Daryl STL RBFitzgerald, Larry ARI WRWack Pack gave up:James, LaMichael SFO RBAmendola, Danny NEP WR
That is the worst trade ever.
Larry Fitz for ALL of those players MIGHT be a fair trade...
Someone was crying during the draft.
Wack Pack then traded Fitz for Bowe and Mathews.

So in the end, it was Amendola and James, for Bowe, Mathews, Richardson, and Pead.

 
Tanner9919 said:
whenever the subject of Welker to Denver comes up ( usually at poker games) I keep hearing people saying 'Amendola is good, but ....'

what's being implied is his durability issues..

his value might not be higher than it is now..

with all the specuation about how well he will do, most people seem to consider him a good player,but as camp opens and preseason games begin, his injury risk goes way up..

he's made of glass..trade him now while he has high value..
Honestly, I'm thinking the exact opposite. I floated a few offers around during my rookie draft, and no one seemed interested. I'm gonna gamble that he'll stay healthy and perform with Brady then sell early into the season.

 
cstu said:
This trade just went down in my dynasty league:The Conservatives gave up:Pead, Isaiah STL RBRichardson, Daryl STL RBFitzgerald, Larry ARI WRWack Pack gave up:James, LaMichael SFO RBAmendola, Danny NEP WR
That is the worst trade ever.
Larry Fitz for ALL of those players MIGHT be a fair trade...
Someone was crying during the draft.
Wack Pack then traded Fitz for Bowe and Mathews.

So in the end, it was Amendola and James, for Bowe, Mathews, Richardson, and Pead.
Oof.

 
Biggest bump to Amendola's value will be if Edelman either ends up on IR or doesn't make the roster. Only other competition for that role on offense now would be Hernandez, but Edelman has at least a few seasons of chemistry with Brady.

Although there's also this:

:lol:

 
So now that the draft is over, let's put some names on this. I had suggested way back that he was probably worth somewhere between a late one and an early two (and some said that would be "insulting")

You can have Amendola, or:

Hunter, Woods, Da' Rick, K Allen, or Eifert

Unless I was total "win-now" and devoid of a wr3, I think I take all those guys over Amendola.

 
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jwb said:
So now that the draft is over, let's put some names on this. I had suggested way back that he was probably worth somewhere between a late one and an early two (and some said that would be "insulting") You can have Amendola, or: Hunter, Woods, Da' Rick, K Allen, or Eifert Unless I was total "win-now" and devoid of a wr3, I think I take all those guys over Amendola.
As the owner of Amendola in a non-PPR league, I'd take any of those guys over him. I'd hold my nose for Da'Rick, but would still do it.

 
Tanner9919 said:
whenever the subject of Welker to Denver comes up ( usually at poker games) I keep hearing people saying 'Amendola is good, but ....'

what's being implied is his durability issues..

his value might not be higher than it is now..

with all the specuation about how well he will do, most people seem to consider him a good player,but as camp opens and preseason games begin, his injury risk goes way up..

he's made of glass..trade him now while he has high value..
Honestly, I'm thinking the exact opposite. I floated a few offers around during my rookie draft, and no one seemed interested. I'm gonna gamble that he'll stay healthy and perform with Brady then sell early into the season.
Agreed, everyone has him in that "injury-prone" column and they don't want to give up anything of great value for him. As long as he can stay healthy through 2-3 games and produces the way he should - which is basically Welker numbers, same skillset, same role - Amendola's trade value will then go through the roof. People will be much more willing to take the risk when Amendola has 20+ catches after three games. Unlike Welker, Amendola can also line up outside, and the Pats aren't exactly set there. If anything, it's a good time to deal for Amendola.

 

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