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American Horror Story: Hotel (Season 5) (1 Viewer)

Did Violet succeed in committing suicide? Is she now a ghost?
lmao not a single person hinted or guessed that in this thread. dont act like it was so obvious now.
TeamDingo got it.
I'm a little confused. So I understand that Violet is now dead, but was there a past scene hint with the drug OD I forgot about? ...& what was the deal with Tate encouraging suicide?
They did show the scene with Violet passed out on her bed with a bottle of pills next to her. Tate dragged her into the shower, and tried to get her to spit up the pills.Tate was thinking that since she still thought she was alive, if he got her to kill herself again that she would be happy with the decision. Instead of suddenly figuring out that she has been dead for 16 days now.
 
Great episode! :thumbup:

Found out that Violet didn't survive the OD.

As Kenny Powers stated above above..

Once the Truant officer showed up, and the part where the exterminator found "something" that Tate was protecting the writing was on the wall that she did not survive.

Also, finally put to rest how Larry Harvey became Burnie .. :hot:

Will be interesting to see how he gets back into the show.. Giving details and the weapon kind of makes it hard to get off on a technicality but can't see him being removed from the show. :popcorn:

 
'shadyridr said:
Holy #### holy #### holy ####. What a ####### twist. Now I gotta watch the whole season again lol
Which twist?Im guessing its Violet being dead, but based on the last couple shows, and then a truant officer shows up, I figured the writing was on the wall with her. It definitely will be intersting to see how she treats her parents now that she knows she's dead though - will she protect them? just protect 1 of them? what about the babies?

Definitely setting up for a great season finale, glad its 90 minutes.
:wall: :wall: :wall: Spoiler alert down?!?!
spoiler for a show that already aired?
Post #382JungleJim4322
so stop reading the thread :lmao:
 
Great episode! :thumbup:

Found out that Violet didn't survive the OD.

As Kenny Powers stated above above..

Once the Truant officer showed up, and the part where the exterminator found "something" that Tate was protecting the writing was on the wall that she did not survive.

Also, finally put to rest how Larry Harvey became Burnie .. :hot:

Will be interesting to see how he gets back into the show.. Giving details and the weapon kind of makes it hard to get off on a technicality but can't see him being removed from the show. :popcorn:
Now that Constance has basically given him the finger one last time. I can see him going to the cops "Hey officers you might want to dig under that new patio in the back of the house."
 
'shadyridr said:
Holy #### holy #### holy ####. What a ####### twist. Now I gotta watch the whole season again lol
Which twist?Im guessing its Violet being dead, but based on the last couple shows, and then a truant officer shows up, I figured the writing was on the wall with her. It definitely will be intersting to see how she treats her parents now that she knows she's dead though - will she protect them? just protect 1 of them? what about the babies?Definitely setting up for a great season finale, glad its 90 minutes.
:wall: :wall: :wall: Spoiler alert down?!?!
Why read this thread after the show has aired if you haven't watched yet?
 
Great episode! :thumbup:

Found out that Violet didn't survive the OD.

As Kenny Powers stated above above..

Once the Truant officer showed up, and the part where the exterminator found "something" that Tate was protecting the writing was on the wall that she did not survive.

Also, finally put to rest how Larry Harvey became Burnie .. :hot:

Will be interesting to see how he gets back into the show.. Giving details and the weapon kind of makes it hard to get off on a technicality but can't see him being removed from the show. :popcorn:
Sure the writing was on the wall in that episode but shes been dead for 3 episodes now.
 
'Homer J Simpson said:
'shadyridr said:
Holy #### holy #### holy ####. What a ####### twist. Now I gotta watch the whole season again lol
Which twist?Im guessing its Violet being dead, but based on the last couple shows, and then a truant officer shows up, I figured the writing was on the wall with her. It definitely will be intersting to see how she treats her parents now that she knows she's dead though - will she protect them? just protect 1 of them? what about the babies?

Definitely setting up for a great season finale, glad its 90 minutes.
:wall: :wall: :wall: Spoiler alert down?!?!
spoiler for a show that already aired?
Post #382JungleJim4322
so stop reading the thread :lmao:
Seriously, who What kind of animal reads the thread before watching the last episode?
 
Great episode! :thumbup:

Found out that Violet didn't survive the OD.

As Kenny Powers stated above above..

Once the Truant officer showed up, and the part where the exterminator found "something" that Tate was protecting the writing was on the wall that she did not survive.

Also, finally put to rest how Larry Harvey became Burnie .. :hot:

Will be interesting to see how he gets back into the show.. Giving details and the weapon kind of makes it hard to get off on a technicality but can't see him being removed from the show. :popcorn:
Sure the writing was on the wall in that episode but shes been dead for 3 episodes now.
:shrug: was just observing that if you were watching closely during this episode, showing us that she was dead wasn't a huge shock.The writers, IMO, did a very good job not letting the cat out of the bag until this episode.. :thumbup:

 
Great episode! :thumbup:

Found out that Violet didn't survive the OD.

As Kenny Powers stated above above..

Once the Truant officer showed up, and the part where the exterminator found "something" that Tate was protecting the writing was on the wall that she did not survive.

Also, finally put to rest how Larry Harvey became Burnie .. :hot:

Will be interesting to see how he gets back into the show.. Giving details and the weapon kind of makes it hard to get off on a technicality but can't see him being removed from the show. :popcorn:
Sure the writing was on the wall in that episode but shes been dead for 3 episodes now.
:shrug: was just observing that if you were watching closely during this episode, showing us that she was dead wasn't a huge shock.The writers, IMO, did a very good job not letting the cat out of the bag until this episode.. :thumbup:
Well once she started running back into the house I thought it was pretty obvious that the "reveal" of her dead body wasnt too shocking. Im just saying on an overall level the whole episode was a nice twist for the season. Does that make sense? lol
 
I loved the show when it started but find it getting stupider by the episode. I said to my wife when it started that I don't know how you work this as a show because the people either have to quickly leave the house or die. They can't just stay and take their punishment...this show is proving me wrong

 
'shadyridr said:
Holy #### holy #### holy ####. What a ####### twist. Now I gotta watch the whole season again lol
Which twist?Im guessing its Violet being dead, but based on the last couple shows, and then a truant officer shows up, I figured the writing was on the wall with her. It definitely will be intersting to see how she treats her parents now that she knows she's dead though - will she protect them? just protect 1 of them? what about the babies?

Definitely setting up for a great season finale, glad its 90 minutes.
lmao not a single person hinted or guessed that in this thread. dont act like it was so obvious now.
I didnt call it or anything, but it was something I was pondering and hinted at to a degree
That said, Im not sure if its on purpose or not, but it feels like the family's storyline is becoming more individual stories than the family as a whole. Yes, the dad isnt living there anymore which makes that easier, but rarely do you even see 2 of the 3 in the same scene together. Its setting up that each of them have their own horror "story". I could see how the last 3 episodes would be the death of each in separate episodes. The parents will definitely die, Tate might save Violet, but I have a feeling he finds out he is a ghost as doesn't save her so she will be in the house with him eternally.
I love the Black Dahlia murder tie in, keep it big time. Each living house character's stories seem to be digressing/dispersing which is interesting but I dont know. Now its starting to look like who gets caught first to a degree. Last episode had no Constance, tonights had no Violet (and barely Tate), its continuing to be a mind#### even more because Kate Mara is still apparently on Ben's side.
I agree with you that they didnt give many hints to her being dead before this episode, but as I said above, she really didnt get much screentime since the OD so it wasnt hard to keep it hidden.Either way, the scene where she learns she is dead was one of the most tense and best of the season. Also, her corpse was one of the most realistic and frightening Ive ever seen on screen :o

 
Ok, I'm trying to figure out why the ghosts look the way they do. Some show their death injuries and some don't. A friend say she thinks it's sloppy writing, but I'm wondering if their isn't some "rule" we don't know about yet.

Also, I'm not sure I understand what happened with Larry at the end. When talking to his wife, it seemed as if he was going to try to get revenge on Constance. But then he confesses to the police and seems to be asking for her blessing. Did I miss something here?

 
Ok, I'm trying to figure out why the ghosts look the way they do. Some show their death injuries and some don't. A friend say she thinks it's sloppy writing, but I'm wondering if their isn't some "rule" we don't know about yet.Also, I'm not sure I understand what happened with Larry at the end. When talking to his wife, it seemed as if he was going to try to get revenge on Constance. But then he confesses to the police and seems to be asking for her blessing. Did I miss something here?
Im not sure, but I think his wife told him Constance was not to blame for what happened to their family so he is trying to own up to his end. At first, I thought what you thought but then as it played out, I couldnt see how he can get out of his fate in prison
 
Those burn victims were creepy. Which ghosts dont show their death injuries? I guess Tate's brains arent blown out. Who else?

 
Those burn victims were creepy. Which ghosts dont show their death injuries? I guess Tate's brains arent blown out. Who else?
I thought Tate took a bunch of shots to the chest. He put his fingers to his head, then pulled out a gun and aimed it at the SWAT team, they let loose on him in the heart. I figured that was why when Tate and Violet were on the beach he did not want to go all the way because taking off his shirt would reveal a massive hole.
 
Those burn victims were creepy. Which ghosts dont show their death injuries? I guess Tate's brains arent blown out. Who else?
I thought Tate took a bunch of shots to the chest. He put his fingers to his head, then pulled out a gun and aimed it at the SWAT team, they let loose on him in the heart. I figured that was why when Tate and Violet were on the beach he did not want to go all the way because taking off his shirt would reveal a massive hole.
Tate's shots were to the chest (still unseen), the original owner of the house (the crazy lady) has a massive hole in the back of her head...The maid has a funky eye where she was shot...the rest have gone unnoticed so far i assume.
 
Those burn victims were creepy. Which ghosts dont show their death injuries? I guess Tate's brains arent blown out. Who else?
Haden? Can't recall if there were visible injuries. I was also thinking Travis but that was a knife to the body so maybe his shirt covers it as with Tate. Moira? Hot-Moira doesn't show any injury and old-Moira has a milky eye, but Constance shot her eye out so you'd think there would be an empty socket. Also, the gay guys got the crap beat out of them before dying but maybe non-lethal injuries don't remain. The twin boys from ep 1? Can't recall if they show injury or not.
 
Those burn victims were creepy. Which ghosts dont show their death injuries? I guess Tate's brains arent blown out. Who else?
Haden? Can't recall if there were visible injuries. I was also thinking Travis but that was a knife to the body so maybe his shirt covers it as with Tate. Moira? Hot-Moira doesn't show any injury and old-Moira has a milky eye, but Constance shot her eye out so you'd think there would be an empty socket. Also, the gay guys got the crap beat out of them before dying but maybe non-lethal injuries don't remain. The twin boys from ep 1? Can't recall if they show injury or not.
Hayden is all bruised up on her neck and stuff. Can see in scenes with Travis.

Twins -

http://www.preternaturalpost.com/wp-content/themes/advanced-newspaper/timthumb.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.preternaturalpost.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F10%2FAHS-Vivien-and-Twins.jpg&q=90&w=479&zc=1

Dahlia mutilations were post mortem.

Maid is an anomaly in several ways.

 
Those burn victims were creepy. Which ghosts dont show their death injuries? I guess Tate's brains arent blown out. Who else?
Haden? Can't recall if there were visible injuries. I was also thinking Travis but that was a knife to the body so maybe his shirt covers it as with Tate. Moira? Hot-Moira doesn't show any injury and old-Moira has a milky eye, but Constance shot her eye out so you'd think there would be an empty socket. Also, the gay guys got the crap beat out of them before dying but maybe non-lethal injuries don't remain. The twin boys from ep 1? Can't recall if they show injury or not.
Hayden is all bruised up on her neck and stuff. Can see in scenes with Travis.

Twins -

http://www.preternaturalpost.com/wp-content/themes/advanced-newspaper/timthumb.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.preternaturalpost.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F10%2FAHS-Vivien-and-Twins.jpg&q=90&w=479&zc=1

Dahlia mutilations were post mortem.

Maid is an anomaly in several ways.
Cool - thanks. How's about the doctor who built the house? I only recall seeing him once out of his backstory scenes. Did he have an injury showing?
 
Ok, I'm trying to figure out why the ghosts look the way they do. Some show their death injuries and some don't. A friend say she thinks it's sloppy writing, but I'm wondering if their isn't some "rule" we don't know about yet.Also, I'm not sure I understand what happened with Larry at the end. When talking to his wife, it seemed as if he was going to try to get revenge on Constance. But then he confesses to the police and seems to be asking for her blessing. Did I miss something here?
I believe the ghosts look like what they did the instant they died. Travis wasn't chopped up until after he died.
 
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wow, good episode.

but if the kid has been dead for 16 days, what's up with the parents not noticing that she hasn't been to school, hasn't been outside the house, and probably hasn't eaten anything for that long?

also, I was thinking of the time that Constance brought over the cupcake for Violet. she put a bunch of ipecac syrup in it to make Violet throw up, and was pretty adamant that only Violet eat it. was that around the time that Violet OD'd? did Constance know that would happen and was trying to keep her alive?

 
wow, good episode.but if the kid has been dead for 16 days, what's up with the parents not noticing that she hasn't been to school, hasn't been outside the house, and probably hasn't eaten anything for that long?also, I was thinking of the time that Constance brought over the cupcake for Violet. she put a bunch of ipecac syrup in it to make Violet throw up, and was pretty adamant that only Violet eat it. was that around the time that Violet OD'd? did Constance know that would happen and was trying to keep her alive?
Like either parent has been paying much attention to her..Mother is in the :loco: bin, father was concerned about wife then :hot: at wife accusing her of sleeping around and now back to :cry: I'm sorry.. Daughter at this point had become forgotten until the Truant officer showed up.The Cupcake episode was weeks before the OD.. At this point Constance has no idea Violet is dead..
 
'Uruk-Hai said:
'TeamDingo said:
'Uruk-Hai said:
'shadyridr said:
Those burn victims were creepy. Which ghosts dont show their death injuries? I guess Tate's brains arent blown out. Who else?
Haden? Can't recall if there were visible injuries. I was also thinking Travis but that was a knife to the body so maybe his shirt covers it as with Tate. Moira? Hot-Moira doesn't show any injury and old-Moira has a milky eye, but Constance shot her eye out so you'd think there would be an empty socket. Also, the gay guys got the crap beat out of them before dying but maybe non-lethal injuries don't remain. The twin boys from ep 1? Can't recall if they show injury or not.
Hayden is all bruised up on her neck and stuff. Can see in scenes with Travis.

Twins -

http://www.preternaturalpost.com/wp-content/themes/advanced-newspaper/timthumb.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.preternaturalpost.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F10%2FAHS-Vivien-and-Twins.jpg&q=90&w=479&zc=1

Dahlia mutilations were post mortem.

Maid is an anomaly in several ways.
Cool - thanks. How's about the doctor who built the house? I only recall seeing him once out of his backstory scenes. Did he have an injury showing?
We havent seen Dr. Frankenstein killed yet (or if he even dies in the house) so too early to say.
 
also, I was thinking of the time that Constance brought over the cupcake for Violet. she put a bunch of ipecac syrup in it to make Violet throw up, and was pretty adamant that only Violet eat it. was that around the time that Violet OD'd? did Constance know that would happen and was trying to keep her alive?
The Cupcake episode was weeks before the OD.. At this point Constance has no idea Violet is dead..
The episode (episode 2) was weeks before the OD episode, but hard to say how much time was between the incidents in house/show time. It easily couldve been a couple days earlier.
 
wow, good episode.but if the kid has been dead for 16 days, what's up with the parents not noticing that she hasn't been to school, hasn't been outside the house, and probably hasn't eaten anything for that long?also, I was thinking of the time that Constance brought over the cupcake for Violet. she put a bunch of ipecac syrup in it to make Violet throw up, and was pretty adamant that only Violet eat it. was that around the time that Violet OD'd? did Constance know that would happen and was trying to keep her alive?
She gave her the cupcake in episode 2. She OD'd in episode 6
 
'Uruk-Hai said:
'TeamDingo said:
'Uruk-Hai said:
'shadyridr said:
Those burn victims were creepy. Which ghosts dont show their death injuries? I guess Tate's brains arent blown out. Who else?
Haden? Can't recall if there were visible injuries. I was also thinking Travis but that was a knife to the body so maybe his shirt covers it as with Tate. Moira? Hot-Moira doesn't show any injury and old-Moira has a milky eye, but Constance shot her eye out so you'd think there would be an empty socket. Also, the gay guys got the crap beat out of them before dying but maybe non-lethal injuries don't remain. The twin boys from ep 1? Can't recall if they show injury or not.
Hayden is all bruised up on her neck and stuff. Can see in scenes with Travis.

Twins -

http://www.preternaturalpost.com/wp-content/themes/advanced-newspaper/timthumb.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.preternaturalpost.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F10%2FAHS-Vivien-and-Twins.jpg&q=90&w=479&zc=1

Dahlia mutilations were post mortem.

Maid is an anomaly in several ways.
Cool - thanks. How's about the doctor who built the house? I only recall seeing him once out of his backstory scenes. Did he have an injury showing?
We havent seen Dr. Frankenstein killed yet (or if he even dies in the house) so too early to say.
He chopped up Travis' body so he had to die in the house.
 
'Uruk-Hai said:
'TeamDingo said:
'Uruk-Hai said:
'shadyridr said:
Those burn victims were creepy. Which ghosts dont show their death injuries? I guess Tate's brains arent blown out. Who else?
Haden? Can't recall if there were visible injuries. I was also thinking Travis but that was a knife to the body so maybe his shirt covers it as with Tate. Moira? Hot-Moira doesn't show any injury and old-Moira has a milky eye, but Constance shot her eye out so you'd think there would be an empty socket. Also, the gay guys got the crap beat out of them before dying but maybe non-lethal injuries don't remain. The twin boys from ep 1? Can't recall if they show injury or not.
Hayden is all bruised up on her neck and stuff. Can see in scenes with Travis.

Twins -

http://www.preternaturalpost.com/wp-content/themes/advanced-newspaper/timthumb.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.preternaturalpost.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F10%2FAHS-Vivien-and-Twins.jpg&q=90&w=479&zc=1

Dahlia mutilations were post mortem.

Maid is an anomaly in several ways.
Cool - thanks. How's about the doctor who built the house? I only recall seeing him once out of his backstory scenes. Did he have an injury showing?
We havent seen Dr. Frankenstein killed yet (or if he even dies in the house) so too early to say.
He chopped up Travis' body so he had to die in the house.
We didn't see Original-Wife blow his head off before taking her own life? Did I dream that?eta: I think shady must've been responding to another post. I'm responding to Kenny.

 
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'Uruk-Hai said:
'TeamDingo said:
'Uruk-Hai said:
'shadyridr said:
Those burn victims were creepy. Which ghosts dont show their death injuries? I guess Tate's brains arent blown out. Who else?
Haden? Can't recall if there were visible injuries. I was also thinking Travis but that was a knife to the body so maybe his shirt covers it as with Tate. Moira? Hot-Moira doesn't show any injury and old-Moira has a milky eye, but Constance shot her eye out so you'd think there would be an empty socket. Also, the gay guys got the crap beat out of them before dying but maybe non-lethal injuries don't remain. The twin boys from ep 1? Can't recall if they show injury or not.
Hayden is all bruised up on her neck and stuff. Can see in scenes with Travis.

Twins -

http://www.preternaturalpost.com/wp-content/themes/advanced-newspaper/timthumb.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.preternaturalpost.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F10%2FAHS-Vivien-and-Twins.jpg&q=90&w=479&zc=1

Dahlia mutilations were post mortem.

Maid is an anomaly in several ways.
Cool - thanks. How's about the doctor who built the house? I only recall seeing him once out of his backstory scenes. Did he have an injury showing?
We havent seen Dr. Frankenstein killed yet (or if he even dies in the house) so too early to say.
He chopped up Travis' body so he had to die in the house.
We didn't see Original-Wife blow his head off before taking her own life? Did I dream that?eta: I think shady must've been responding to another post. I'm responding to Kenny.
Original wife did blow his head off after she came downstairs after trying to nurse the franken-baby.
 
The opening scene where Tate burns Larry was the best scene in the whole season- powerful and beautifully done.

Why aren't you in school?

I'm going right after this.

After what? (punches away on calculator)

This show walks such a fine line of stupidity and genius, I love it.

 
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This show walks such a fine line of stupidity and genius, I love it.
It's funny...... I look for and am anal about logistical fallacies in real life. They drive me crazy. But, in stuff like this show, I have no problem suspending disbelief (notwithstanding my "what are the ghost rules" post above). And I think that's the way you have to view AHS. You really have to get past the "how stupid can people be?" to enjoy a program like this. For some reason, I don't have a problem doing so.
 
This show walks such a fine line of stupidity and genius, I love it.
It's funny...... I look for and am anal about logistical fallacies in real life. They drive me crazy. But, in stuff like this show, I have no problem suspending disbelief (notwithstanding my "what are the ghost rules" post above). And I think that's the way you have to view AHS. You really have to get past the "how stupid can people be?" to enjoy a program like this. For some reason, I don't have a problem doing so.
That isn't even the stupidity I am talking about. A lot of the dialogue is cheesy and there is always a level of melodrama that at times makes me think I am watching a soap opera. The first few episodes had an edge about them- the show was genuinely scary. The scariest part now is the title sequence.
 
This show walks such a fine line of stupidity and genius, I love it.
It's funny...... I look for and am anal about logistical fallacies in real life. They drive me crazy. But, in stuff like this show, I have no problem suspending disbelief (notwithstanding my "what are the ghost rules" post above). And I think that's the way you have to view AHS. You really have to get past the "how stupid can people be?" to enjoy a program like this. For some reason, I don't have a problem doing so.
That isn't even the stupidity I am talking about. A lot of the dialogue is cheesy and there is always a level of melodrama that at times makes me think I am watching a soap opera. The first few episodes had an edge about them- the show was genuinely scary. The scariest part now is the title sequence.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I think the dialogue for a show like this is top-notch compared to others. I agree that it's like a soap opera, but that's the point IMHO.
 
tate is the biggest monster on the show
Is there any debate about this?
no i was just saying its pretty cool. hes been responisble for so many deaths and possibly even the birth of the anti-christhe killed the kids in the school, he killed the gay couple, he killed the home intruders, he burnt larry, he conceived the anti-christ. the show should be called tate horrow story
 
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tate is the biggest monster on the show
Is there any debate about this?
no i was just saying its pretty cool. hes been responisble for so many deaths and possibly even the birth of the anti-christhe killed the kids in the school, he killed the gay couple, he killed the home intruders, he burnt larry, he conceived the anti-christ. the show should be called tate horrow story
And yet despite all that, he's not a thoroughly hated character. In fact, I'd venture that most people watching hope there is redemption for him before the end of the season.
 
tate is the biggest monster on the show
Is there any debate about this?
no i was just saying its pretty cool. hes been responisble for so many deaths and possibly even the birth of the anti-christhe killed the kids in the school, he killed the gay couple, he killed the home intruders, he burnt larry, he conceived the anti-christ. the show should be called tate horrow story
And yet despite all that, he's not a thoroughly hated character. In fact, I'd venture that most people watching hope there is redemption for him before the end of the season.
agreed
 
tate is the biggest monster on the show
Is there any debate about this?
no i was just saying its pretty cool. hes been responisble for so many deaths and possibly even the birth of the anti-christhe killed the kids in the school, he killed the gay couple, he killed the home intruders, he burnt larry, he conceived the anti-christ. the show should be called tate horrow story
Your grasp on the obvious is mind bottling.
 
tate is the biggest monster on the show
Is there any debate about this?
no i was just saying its pretty cool. hes been responisble for so many deaths and possibly even the birth of the anti-christhe killed the kids in the school, he killed the gay couple, he killed the home intruders, he burnt larry, he conceived the anti-christ. the show should be called tate horrow story
And yet despite all that, he's not a thoroughly hated character. In fact, I'd venture that most people watching hope there is redemption for him before the end of the season.
I'd kinda like to see Hayden chop him up into little pieces personally.But I am more than a little biased toward Kate Mara so that might have something to do with it. :wub:
 
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