ANARCHY LEAGUES (1 Viewer)

[Bruno2]

Regarding post-season scoring...I have pick number one.  Right now that's a slam dunk for LJ in my mind.  If you double the post-season scoring then I will have to give SA strong consideration.  If the scoring stays the same as last year my plan is to completely ignore post season possibilities and take the BPA.

Many people have KC going places this year . . .

I think your underestimating the playoff scoring a little bit. Although if I were picking first I'd take L.J. all the way because I think KC has a good shot at making the playoffs. Of your top 10 scorers last year, half of them were TMQBs that made the playoffs. There were 9 WRs in the top 30 in scoring, 6 of them made the playoffs, Steve Smith was #1 overall. 13 of the top 30 were TMQBs and 9 of them made the playoffs. Of the 5 RBs to make the top 30 Alexander (#2), Barber (#15) and James (28th) made the playoffs, while L.J. (8th) and L.T. (10th) didn't.I think if you dramatically increase playoff scoring this year it will completely change the whole dynamic of the league. I'd leave it right where it is.

 

[Biabreakable]

We can debate whatever you want, but here were some things that came up that were on my list of things to review:

TEAM KICKERS

Since so many teams lost out on kicker points when teams switched kickers, this seems like a decent idea. This way no one gets a big fat goose egg at kicker. However, I am not sure if we should revist the scoring for kickers, as I suspect that the scoring difference between teams is pretty small (although I haven't checked and numbers one way or the other.

I dont really care one way or the other

POST-SEASON SCORING INCREASE

Some people loved it, some people hated it. But I thought it kept teams in the hunt almost all the way to the end. In an effort to make fantasy football more like real football (better teams go to the playoffs in real football), I felt inclined to DOUBLE points scored in the post season. This one I am not 100% sold on, so we can open this up for debate.

I support this so that post season predictions for players has a more significant impact.

TRADING AND ROSTER MOVES

Several people asked for the ability to do this, and IMO it makes things too chaotic. Teams would in essence be forced to trade players at similar positions (remember the roster requirements), so I'm not sure what the point would be. Similarly, there would be no fair way to run waivers with this many teams, and I have no desire to get involved in free agent bidding time and time again. So I doubt there is a good logistical way to do this.

I love trading but I don't think it should be allowed. To me this league is more a test of predicting how players perform over the course of a season. Trading, picking starting line ups and WW moves are completly different skills imho.

BEST BALL SCORING

This was brought up as a way to minimize the impact of injuries. I agree that injuries are a problem, and I think the solution is to expand rosters to 20 and score the best 18. However, I think the fairest way to go about it is to draft all teams like last year (must fill roster requirments in first 18 picks) and then each owner can add whatever two position players he wants to add that are remaining in rounds 19 and 20 (there will not be any QB, DEF, or PK left if we go with team PK). The intent is not to have someone hoarde any one position and give everyone a fair chance at filling up their roster with servicable players.

I don't really care one way or another on this. Those extra picks could end up being better than players picked earlier though and further help a injury free team compared to others. I don't think this fixes the injury problem. It just makes rosters deeper.

TIMING OUT ON DRAFT PICKS

This was a major P.I.T.A. last year, as those waiting to pick would get tired of waiting around for a pick that never was made. I then had to either skip over the pick and wait for that owner to get in touch with me for a pick and it turned into a mess, so to keep the competitiveness of the teams I tried picking someone for that owner. Then he would get mad that I picked someone he didn't want, and the aggravation cycle continued. I am open for suggestions on how to deal with this one, but I am incline to suggest that I will pick the highest non-drafted player/team for that team based on current ADP. So if the highest player that is not yet drafted was Byron leftwich, that team would be the proud owner of JAX TEAM QB (assuming they didn't already have 2 TEAM QB filled).

What is the time limit on picks? I have heard slow draft but I don't know what the pick time limit is. Draft picks that time out should be moved to the end of the round. Owners should be commited enough to not let picks time out. Predraft or use an alternate who can pick for you if you know you will be away for extended period of time.

There is no reason for me to have to pick any players for any owners, as you can predraft or you can PM or email me with guys you would want if you are going to be away from a computer. Heck, last year I talked to guys on cell phones to make picks!

What else ya got for suggestions (or more likely complaints).

I am ready to begin drafting once league site has been set up.People complaining about injurys having too much of an effect on luck... Thats football. Attrition is a big part of it and part of why I like this sport more than others.

 

[BassNBrew]

Regarding post-season scoring...I have pick number one.  Right now that's a slam dunk for LJ in my mind.  If you double the post-season scoring then I will have to give SA strong consideration.  If the scoring stays the same as last year my plan is to completely ignore post season possibilities and take the BPA.

Many people have KC going places this year . . .

I think your underestimating the playoff scoring a little bit. Although if I were picking first I'd take L.J. all the way because I think KC has a good shot at making the playoffs. Of your top 10 scorers last year, half of them were TMQBs that made the playoffs. There were 9 WRs in the top 30 in scoring, 6 of them made the playoffs, Steve Smith was #1 overall. 13 of the top 30 were TMQBs and 9 of them made the playoffs. Of the 5 RBs to make the top 30 Alexander (#2), Barber (#15) and James (28th) made the playoffs, while L.J. (8th) and L.T. (10th) didn't.I think if you dramatically increase playoff scoring this year it will completely change the whole dynamic of the league. I'd leave it right where it is.

FYI...the top positions didn't change during the playoffs. The original intended dynamic to the league was to influence the draft with the post season enticement.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Regarding post-season scoring...I have pick number one. Right now that's a slam dunk for LJ in my mind. If you double the post-season scoring then I will have to give SA strong consideration. If the scoring stays the same as last year my plan is to completely ignore post season possibilities and take the BPA.

Many people have KC going places this year . . .

I think your underestimating the playoff scoring a little bit. Although if I were picking first I'd take L.J. all the way because I think KC has a good shot at making the playoffs. Of your top 10 scorers last year, half of them were TMQBs that made the playoffs. There were 9 WRs in the top 30 in scoring, 6 of them made the playoffs, Steve Smith was #1 overall. 13 of the top 30 were TMQBs and 9 of them made the playoffs. Of the 5 RBs to make the top 30 Alexander (#2), Barber (#15) and James (28th) made the playoffs, while L.J. (8th) and L.T. (10th) didn't.I think if you dramatically increase playoff scoring this year it will completely change the whole dynamic of the league. I'd leave it right where it is.

FYI...the top positions didn't change during the playoffs. The original intended dynamic to the league was to influence the draft with the post season enticement.

Agreed. I moved up a couple of spots with the Hasselbeck-DJax hookup, but not enough to make it meaningful.

 

[Sinrman]

Here's my thought on the playoff implications. Sure, last year it didn't have much of an affect on how people finished last season. It may not happen THIS year, either. But some year, it WILL have an impact, and could make the difference between first and second place. I think that this is the intended purpose of playing through the playoffs,, and I dig it.

 

[LHUCKS]

Here's my thought on the playoff implications. Sure, last year it didn't have much of an affect on how people finished last season. It may not happen THIS year, either. But some year, it WILL have an impact, and could make the difference between first and second place. I think that this is the intended purpose of playing through the playoffs,, and I dig it.

I'm up for anything that increases the complexity of this draft.Complexity = Advantage Me

 

[dickey moe]

We can debate whatever you want, but here were some things that came up that were on my list of things to review:

TEAM KICKERS

Since so many teams lost out on kicker points when teams switched kickers, this seems like a decent idea. This way no one gets a big fat goose egg at kicker. However, I am not sure if we should revist the scoring for kickers, as I suspect that the scoring difference between teams is pretty small (although I haven't checked and numbers one way or the other.

I like this idea.

POST-SEASON SCORING INCREASE

Some people loved it, some people hated it. But I thought it kept teams in the hunt almost all the way to the end. In an effort to make fantasy football more like real football (better teams go to the playoffs in real football), I felt inclined to DOUBLE points scored in the post season. This one I am not 100% sold on, so we can open this up for debate.

I think this will too greatly increase the luck factor -- leave this as it was last year.

TRADING AND ROSTER MOVES

Several people asked for the ability to do this, and IMO it makes things too chaotic. Teams would in essence be forced to trade players at similar positions (remember the roster requirements), so I'm not sure what the point would be. Similarly, there would be no fair way to run waivers with this many teams, and I have no desire to get involved in free agent bidding time and time again. So I doubt there is a good logistical way to do this.

No trades or roster moves -- I liked this league because it was low maintenance.

BEST BALL SCORING

This was brought up as a way to minimize the impact of injuries. I agree that injuries are a problem, and I think the solution is to expand rosters to 20 and score the best 18. However, I think the fairest way to go about it is to draft all teams like last year (must fill roster requirments in first 18 picks) and then each owner can add whatever two position players he wants to add that are remaining in rounds 19 and 20 (there will not be any QB, DEF, or PK left if we go with team PK). The intent is not to have someone hoarde any one position and give everyone a fair chance at filling up their roster with servicable players.

I'm for trying this for this season -- injuries in this league can be a b----.

TIMING OUT ON DRAFT PICKS

This was a major P.I.T.A. last year, as those waiting to pick would get tired of waiting around for a pick that never was made. I then had to either skip over the pick and wait for that owner to get in touch with me for a pick and it turned into a mess, so to keep the competitiveness of the teams I tried picking someone for that owner. Then he would get mad that I picked someone he didn't want, and the aggravation cycle continued. I am open for suggestions on how to deal with this one, but I am incline to suggest that I will pick the highest non-drafted player/team for that team based on current ADP. So if the highest player that is not yet drafted was Byron leftwich, that team would be the proud owner of JAX TEAM QB (assuming they didn't already have 2 TEAM QB filled).

Sounds good to me -- you miss your pick, you still get the best ADP remaining.

 

[Unlucky]

I am now against team kickers. I agree that with team kickers, everyone will take them with the last two picks, making them meaningless. Even though it screwed me last year, let's go with individual kickers.

I am also now against dropping any scores after reading's Twilight's point that it's meaningless as most teams will be dropping 0's anyway.

So, all in all, let's keep it exactly like last year! No tweaks needed.

 

[Bruno2]

I am now against team kickers. I agree that with team kickers, everyone will take them with the last two picks, making them meaningless. Even though it screwed me last year, let's go with individual kickers.

I am also now against dropping any scores after reading's Twilight's point that it's meaningless as most teams will be dropping 0's anyway.

So, all in all, let's keep it exactly like last year! No tweaks needed.

I agree, I like the rules the way they are, thats why I signed up for this thing. I like the low maintence aspect of this league (I'm in enough high maint./dynasty leagues as it is) I can't wait to get this draft rolling.

 

[Sinrman]

I am now against team kickers.  I agree that with team kickers, everyone will take them with the last two picks, making them meaningless.  Even though it screwed me last year, let's go with individual kickers. 

I am also now against dropping any scores after reading's Twilight's point that it's meaningless as most teams will be dropping 0's anyway. 

So, all in all, let's keep it exactly like last year!  No tweaks needed.

I agree, I like the rules the way they are, thats why I signed up for this thing. I like the low maintence aspect of this league (I'm in enough high maint./dynasty leagues as it is) I can't wait to get this draft rolling.

 

[Fiddles]

I am now against team kickers.  I agree that with team kickers, everyone will take them with the last two picks, making them meaningless.  Even though it screwed me last year, let's go with individual kickers. 

I am also now against dropping any scores after reading's Twilight's point that it's meaningless as most teams will be dropping 0's anyway. 

So, all in all, let's keep it exactly like last year!  No tweaks needed.

I agree, I like the rules the way they are, thats why I signed up for this thing. I like the low maintence aspect of this league (I'm in enough high maint./dynasty leagues as it is) I can't wait to get this draft rolling.

ya after reading the opinions from the peeps that participated last year id say leave as is.

 

[Biabreakable]

Im cool with it as is also.

The only suggestion I really liked was increasing scoring for the players who make the playoffs to give that more significance. But even with normal scoring it is still extra points for those players. Its just not as dramatic of a difference as it could be.

Keeping in mind that some playoff teams will rest thier starters late season if playoff home field advantage is allready wrapped up. Giving more points for the playoffs might balance that out more in terms of which players had truly dominant seasons.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Im cool with it as is also.

The only suggestion I really liked was increasing scoring for the players who make the playoffs to give that more significance. But even with normal scoring it is still extra points for those players. Its just not as dramatic of a difference as it could be.

Keeping in mind that some playoff teams will rest thier starters late season if playoff home field advantage is allready wrapped up. Giving more points for the playoffs might balance that out more in terms of which players had truly dominant seasons.

Like Edge dropping me about 4 spots in weeks 16 and 17 last year? Nah....

 

[Hear-the-Footsteps]

TEAM KICKERS

sounds good

POST-SEASON SCORING INCREASE

keep as is

TRADING AND ROSTER MOVES

i vote no trading or FA pick ups or any roster moves

BEST BALL SCORING

no preference either way

TIMING OUT ON DRAFT PICKS

no one should ever be timing out!

 

[There it is]

I am now against team kickers. I agree that with team kickers, everyone will take them with the last two picks, making them meaningless. Even though it screwed me last year, let's go with individual kickers.

I am also now against dropping any scores after reading's Twilight's point that it's meaningless as most teams will be dropping 0's anyway.

So, all in all, let's keep it exactly like last year! No tweaks needed.

I also was swayed by Joffer on kickers and Twilight's insight. He should know he runs the place.However I do like the double post season points.

I really wanted in last year because of the unique rules, esp the post season to the SB and I think the double points will help make this even harder to draft for.

 

[bueno]

Just want to point out that there are a couple teams in the NFL that will have training camp battles at the PK spot.  Which would you rather do?  Pick the Atlanta team kicker or have to bet which unknown they go with?

If you don't have the acumen to figure it out, then man up and take two kickers early.I think it greatly adds to the strategy trying to avoid being left without a chair when the music stops. If you go with a "team" kicker, then everyone will wait until the last two rounds to pick two.

Them's fighting words LHucks!

 

[LHUCKS]

Just want to point out that there are a couple teams in the NFL that will have training camp battles at the PK spot.  Which would you rather do?  Pick the Atlanta team kicker or have to bet which unknown they go with?

If you don't have the acumen to figure it out, then man up and take two kickers early.I think it greatly adds to the strategy trying to avoid being left without a chair when the music stops. If you go with a "team" kicker, then everyone will wait until the last two rounds to pick two.

Them's fighting words LHucks!

Bass said that.And Bass would be right, everybody will wait until the last two rounds...although I don't think that is necessarily bad. Kicker injuries are total bull####...I'm Mr. Risk Averse and even I admit trying to handicap kickers based on injury risk is absolutely ridiculous. Who gives a flying #### about who can pick the best kicker anyhow? [/pottymouth]

 

[Jackal King]

Who gives a flying #### about who can pick the best kicker anyhow?

Cappy.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

I have been away, so I have no idea about the rule changes and such, but the only thing I'll say is that I LOVED "the no-work after the draft" format. It is one of the things that made it so unique to begin with. This is about seeing who was best in August, which other leagues obviously don't do.

Now THAT'S prognostication, baby!

 

[There it is]

Just got my invite it says draft starts On Sun Aug 13 9:00:00 a.m. ET 2006.

Is this right?

 

[David Yudkin]

Just got my invits it says graft starts On Sun Aug 13 9:00:00 a.m. ET 2006.

Is this right?

Completing the trifecta of threads . . .No. That must be the default setting that MFL puts in. We need to decide when you guys want to start drafting. Some people mentioned that they might not be around, so I had planned on starting Monday 8/7, but it makes no difference to me if you want to start sooner.

I still need to set up League 3 (not that that impacts when leagues one and two can start).

As for the rules, I opted to leave them the same. While I can appreciate people clamoring for team kickers, the last two rounds would be almost entirely kickers if we did that. And the people complaining about getting stuck with lousy kickers or ones that had no job security last year now know to draft them sooner rather than later this time.

I thought about doubling the post season points, but the majority of people didn't seem in favor. I felt that the best ball scoring would change the spirit of the league, and as Twilight mentioned injuries happened on so many teams that many times all teams would be dropping a zero score.

And nobody seemed to want to change the frozen roster rule, so obviously that was going to stay the same.

 

[Biabreakable]

Who gives a flying #### about who can pick the best kicker anyhow?

Cappy.

:shivers:Cappy is one of the few FF players that intimidate me. Glad he is not in League 2.

 

[joffer]

Just got my invits it says graft starts On Sun Aug 13 9:00:00 a.m. ET 2006.

Is this right?

Completing the trifecta of threads . . .No. That must be the default setting that MFL puts in. We need to decide when you guys want to start drafting. Some people mentioned that they might not be around, so I had planned on starting Monday 8/7, but it makes no difference to me if you want to start sooner.

I still need to set up League 3 (not that that impacts when leagues one and two can start).

As for the rules, I opted to leave them the same. While I can appreciate people clamoring for team kickers, the last two rounds would be almost entirely kickers if we did that. And the people complaining about getting stuck with lousy kickers or ones that had no job security last year now know to draft them sooner rather than later this time.

I thought about doubling the post season points, but the majority of people didn't seem in favor. I felt that the best ball scoring would change the spirit of the league, and as Twilight mentioned injuries happened on so many teams that many times all teams would be dropping a zero score.

And nobody seemed to want to change the frozen roster rule, so obviously that was going to stay the same.

:golfclap:

 

[rzrback77]

Count me as happy to have the old rules and since they are set, let's go. Pre-draft of first pick in Anarchy 2 all set.

Go Hogs!