Andre Johnson at #6 overall (1 Viewer)

[meatwad1]

At 1.6 I am going with SJ, Turner, or DWill...the OP had it right in that once you pick AJ with the #1 you are locked into taking some iffy rbs with your second round pick...plus how can any of you not be aware that pack mentality rarely pays off in fantasy football?

How many players from year to year are clear cut #1 at their position? Not many. For all we know, one of those 2nd round wide outs are going to be #1, as a matter of fact I would not be surprised to see Austin, Colston, White, or Marshall do just as well as AJ.

 

[pantherclub]

At 1.6 I am going with SJ, Turner, or DWill...the OP had it right in that once you pick AJ with the #1 you are locked into taking some iffy rbs with your second round pick...plus how can any of you not be aware that pack mentality rarely pays off in fantasy football? How many players from year to year are clear cut #1 at their position? Not many. For all we know, one of those 2nd round wide outs are going to be #1, as a matter of fact I would not be surprised to see Austin, Colston, White, or Marshall do just as well as AJ.

Sjackson, dwill or turner arent iffy? WIth Ajohnson you know what you are getting. You know what you are guaranteed to get. With those other guys its a crapshoot.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Johnson, in 32 games with Matt Schaub, has averaged more receiving yards per game than any other WR-QB pairing in NFL history: http://footballguys.com/10stuart_players_andrejohnson.php

He's averaging 1,618 yards per 16 games with Schaub. That number will fall way down if they play together for 10 more years, but I see no reason not to be bullish on AJ this year. A stud receiver is valuable enough to take at #6, IMO.

 

[Instinctive]

At 1.6 I am going with SJ, Turner, or DWill...the OP had it right in that once you pick AJ with the #1 you are locked into taking some iffy rbs with your second round pick...plus how can any of you not be aware that pack mentality rarely pays off in fantasy football?

How many players from year to year are clear cut #1 at their position? Not many. For all we know, one of those 2nd round wide outs are going to be #1, as a matter of fact I would not be surprised to see Austin, Colston, White, or Marshall do just as well as AJ.

Sjackson, dwill or turner arent iffy? WIth Ajohnson you know what you are getting. You know what you are guaranteed to get. With those other guys its a crapshoot.

It isn't a crapshoot in any way, shape, or form with SJax. He has been a RB1 for EVERY SINGLE ONE of the last 5 years. He is literally the only player who can claim that. He has rushed for over 1000 yards for EVERY SINGLE ONE of the last 5 years. He is literally the only player in the NFL to hold that distinction for one team. And all of that is true with him missing an average of 2 games per year and playing for an offense that has been historically bad the last 2-3 years.He averages almost 100 yards per game...in rushing alone. He averages over 100 ypg including receiving yards, even if you decide to toss out the monster 2006 season from your analysis.

ETA: I would call him one of the top 3 most sure plays in fantasy football right now.

 

[meatwad1]

Listen...there is no such thing as a sure thing in ff. As we all know, many things can happen over the course of a season. In general, it is stupid to take a wr at the 7 spot or lower. The reason is the same as what the OP said. What you can pick going on the back end is extremly limited.

I had AJ last year so I am intimately familiar with his many talents, but I got him at 1.9, so I was able to pair him with another stud wr in Moss. I like the idea of taking wrs in the first round if you will have the ability to match them with either another stud wr or a stud qb. A person who has two studs at wr has a big advantage, one stud wr and a middling rb not so much. Turner was having a great year before he got hurt, SJ was hurt and he played through even though he really had no incentive, save personal pride and leadership by example.

Plus look at last years sure thing; Larry Fitzgerald. In my league, some ####### took him at 3 and his average point going off the board was around 5 or 6. He finished as wr 6 and there were 4 guys right behind him at about a point per game less! If you take AJ at 5 or 6 and hope to win your league, you had best hope you hit a home run at rb in the later rounds as he probably will not be the top guy three years in a row.

 

[pantherclub]

Listen...there is no such thing as a sure thing in ff. As we all know, many things can happen over the course of a season. In general, it is stupid to take a wr at the 7 spot or lower. The reason is the same as what the OP said. What you can pick going on the back end is extremly limited.

I had AJ last year so I am intimately familiar with his many talents, but I got him at 1.9, so I was able to pair him with another stud wr in Moss. I like the idea of taking wrs in the first round if you will have the ability to match them with either another stud wr or a stud qb. A person who has two studs at wr has a big advantage, one stud wr and a middling rb not so much. Turner was having a great year before he got hurt, SJ was hurt and he played through even though he really had no incentive, save personal pride and leadership by example.

Plus look at last years sure thing; Larry Fitzgerald. In my league, some ####### took him at 3 and his average point going off the board was around 5 or 6. He finished as wr 6 and there were 4 guys right behind him at about a point per game less! If you take AJ at 5 or 6 and hope to win your league, you had best hope you hit a home run at rb in the later rounds as he probably will not be the top guy three years in a row.

No its not. Not at all. Only 4 out of the top ten rb's ranked preseason end up in the top 10 in points historically. WIth AJ, Wayne, Fitz and maybe now White you know you are going to get a wr that produces and produces well. They are as a sure thing as there is in FF. Do they always live up to their ADP? Probably not but they are not far from it either. Why risk your 1rst round pick on a gamble? In every season there are RB's that come on late. Forsett, Charles, kid from Houston just to name a few from last year plus there are always injuries. You hardly ever see a wr emerge after an injury or benching and give you WR#1 or 2 numbers. Its a simple numbers game. Go look at the preseason top 10 last year in your league and see where they finished. Now do the same with WR's.

 

[djmich]

Johnson, in 32 games with Matt Schaub, has averaged more receiving yards per game than any other WR-QB pairing in NFL history: http://footballguys.com/10stuart_players_andrejohnson.php

He's averaging 1,618 yards per 16 games with Schaub. That number will fall way down if they play together for 10 more years, but I see no reason not to be bullish on AJ this year. A stud receiver is valuable enough to take at #6, IMO.

This year is easy...how long do you think Johnson stays elite and top 10? Is he worth #5/#6 in dynasty.

 

[cr8f]

In one .5 PPR re-draft he went at #4 over Race Rice and Gore. So much depends on Schaub's health-can he stay on the field?

Johnson, in 32 games with Matt Schaub, has averaged more receiving yards per game than any other WR-QB pairing in NFL history: http://footballguys.com/10stuart_players_andrejohnson.php

He's averaging 1,618 yards per 16 games with Schaub. That number will fall way down if they play together for 10 more years, but I see no reason not to be bullish on AJ this year. A stud receiver is valuable enough to take at #6, IMO.

That is the issue with me-can Schaub stay healthy. Last year in one PS game Schaub said to stay on the field he has to learn how to take hits...in the booth Trent Green went ballistic saying no you have to avoid getting hit.

 

[FUBAR]

Depends on your league size and scoring, of course, but I play in a 14 team non ppr league....DWill has an ADP of 2.04 according to fantasyfootballcalculator. I would expect Grant or Mathews, 2.10and 2..08 respectively to be the guys you are looking at in the 2nd.

Turner and Jennings/White sounds better than AJ and Grant/Mathews to me... It's VERY CLOSE.

The 3rd and 4th round picks will likely look the same.....3rd round: Pierre Thomas, Moreno, Wells or S. Smith (either one), Ocho, or Nicks/Crabtree. In the 4th round the WRs really drop off and the same for the RBs....so that looks like a good place to take a QB or TE.

I like Turner, Jennings, Thomas, Nicks for the 1st 4 rounds. But wouldn't be unhappy at all with AJ, Grant, Thomas, Nicks

I might agree on White (for some reason I'm not huge on GJ this year) but then I'm pairing White/Turner which I don't mind that much but I generally prefer not to pair my top 2 players, all else equal. IMO, AJ and either Grant or Mathews is equal with White/Turner, so assuming I predict things to fall that way, I'm taking AJ. I agree, unless people reach for TE/QB earlier, the RB and WR will fall off around the 4th. In most of my leagues I only have to start 1 RB but 3 WRs, plus a flex. So I want to get more stud WRs than RBs.

Whether AJ is the "right" choice depends on your league for the most part but after the top 4, he isn't the "wrong" choice in any usual format aside from 2QB.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Listen...there is no such thing as a sure thing in ff. As we all know, many things can happen over the course of a season. In general, it is stupid to take a wr at the 7 spot or lower. The reason is the same as what the OP said. What you can pick going on the back end is extremly limited.

I had AJ last year so I am intimately familiar with his many talents, but I got him at 1.9, so I was able to pair him with another stud wr in Moss. I like the idea of taking wrs in the first round if you will have the ability to match them with either another stud wr or a stud qb. A person who has two studs at wr has a big advantage, one stud wr and a middling rb not so much. Turner was having a great year before he got hurt, SJ was hurt and he played through even though he really had no incentive, save personal pride and leadership by example.

Plus look at last years sure thing; Larry Fitzgerald. In my league, some ####### took him at 3 and his average point going off the board was around 5 or 6. He finished as wr 6 and there were 4 guys right behind him at about a point per game less! If you take AJ at 5 or 6 and hope to win your league, you had best hope you hit a home run at rb in the later rounds as he probably will not be the top guy three years in a row.

No its not. Not at all. Only 4 out of the top ten rb's ranked preseason end up in the top 10 in points historically. WIth AJ, Wayne, Fitz and maybe now White you know you are going to get a wr that produces and produces well. They are as a sure thing as there is in FF. Do they always live up to their ADP? Probably not but they are not far from it either. Why risk your 1rst round pick on a gamble? In every season there are RB's that come on late. Forsett, Charles, kid from Houston just to name a few from last year plus there are always injuries. You hardly ever see a wr emerge after an injury or benching and give you WR#1 or 2 numbers. Its a simple numbers game. Go look at the preseason top 10 last year in your league and see where they finished. Now do the same with WR's.

How many times have I taken the next RB at my slotted first round pick, RB 7 or RB 8, and then watch WR 1 & WR 2 go after me before my next pick? How many times have I later #%$@ to myself that if only I had that guaranteed WR 1 production. If there is a slight doubt in your mind about a first round RB, and you have an Andre Johnson sitting there, it's better to lessen your risk and heartburn, cuz as you said, he's as sure a thing as there is in FF.

 

[fightingillini]

If you take AJ at 5 or 6 and hope to win your league, you had best hope you hit a home run at rb in the later rounds as he probably will not be the top guy three years in a row.

This is a weak argument IMO, with all due respect.To win your league, you will need to hit big on later picks anyway, regardless if you take a RB or a WR in the first round. So why not take the best bet in round 1 in AJ and gamble on later round RBs? As Pantherclub said, half of the RBs in the top 10 in the previous year usually aren't in the top 10 in the upcoming year. With the top 4 RBs all a very good bet to finish in the top 10, the next 6 RBs become a real crapshoot. Why take SJackson or Turner or DWill when AJ is a very good bet for 100/1500/10?In any PPR league, I take AJ with the 6 pick assuming the Big 4 RBs and Gore are off the board.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Turner finished with 276 points in 2008, playing 16 games. He was on pace for almost 15 tds last year and was averaging a better ypc. That point total, was better than what Rice and MJD totalled last year, and was better than Peterson in 2008. Thus, he outscored 3/4 top RBs the last time he played 16 games.

Furthermore,

taking a 2 or 3 year avg...

AJ: 13.6 pt/g (Rd 1)

Jennings: 10.9 pt/g (Rd 2)

White: 11.3 pt/g (Rd 2)

Turner: 16.75 pt/g (Rd 1)

Grant: 11.3 pt/g (Rd 2)

Thomas: 10.6 pt/g (Rd 2)

Moreno: 10.6 pt/g (Rd 2)

Those are the MOST LIKELY guys available based on recent ADP.

If D Will somehow makes it to round two...his 2 yr avg is 15.25 pt/g. So it looks better to go AJ. Otherwise, you're losing more at the RB position than you would be at the WR position in the 1st two rounds.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

The point of my last post, was that perhaps Turner should be considered one of the elite talents? I know he only showed it one year...but can't the same be said for Ray Rice?

For me, it's Turner or AJ...and I'm pretty torn on it. But, I just have a good feeling about Turner this year.

 

[rizzler]

If schaub goes down... AJ is in a world of trouble.

If Ryan goes down, Turners production wont take nearly the same hit.

just ONE issue to take into account... that and AJ has never topped 9tds in a season... Turner got 10 missing 5 games and playing hurt.

I LOVE aj... love. but its a simple decision for me at 6... Turner without hesitation... now, if im at the 8 or 9 spot, with the monster RBs gone.... AJ is a definite choice.

 

[fightingillini]

The point of my last post, was that perhaps Turner should be considered one of the elite talents? I know he only showed it one year...but can't the same be said for Ray Rice? For me, it's Turner or AJ...and I'm pretty torn on it. But, I just have a good feeling about Turner this year.

For me....nonPPR....go with Turner. In a PPR, AJ all the way.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

If schaub goes down... AJ is in a world of trouble.If Ryan goes down, Turners production wont take nearly the same hit. just ONE issue to take into account... that and AJ has never topped 9tds in a season... Turner got 10 missing 5 games and playing hurt.I LOVE aj... love. but its a simple decision for me at 6... Turner without hesitation... now, if im at the 8 or 9 spot, with the monster RBs gone.... AJ is a definite choice.

Not only that, you can pick up Turner's backup and Snelling/Norwood have shown they can be productive. If AJ or Schaub goes down...I don't feel comfortable at all with AJ's production or Jacoby Jones, respectively.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

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[2ksports]

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Moss has a higher ceiling, even at 33. T.O. at 33 was still producing, and Moss is more of a finess player anyways.For me, Andre can go 2nd or 3rd (after Austin). The guy has never seen double digit TDs and I see no reason it'll be any different this year. I doubt he repeats last years stats.

 

[gump]

I have 7 RBs in a clear #1 tier...with the point differential greater to the next tier of RB than the drop from WR1 to WR4 or 5.

I'm grabbing a RB at 6. WR 4 or 5 in Rd 2.

 

[pantherclub]

If schaub goes down... AJ is in a world of trouble.

If Ryan goes down, Turners production wont take nearly the same hit.

just ONE issue to take into account... that and AJ has never topped 9tds in a season... Turner got 10 missing 5 games and playing hurt.

I LOVE aj... love. but its a simple decision for me at 6... Turner without hesitation... now, if im at the 8 or 9 spot, with the monster RBs gone.... AJ is a definite choice.

Not only that, you can pick up Turner's backup and Snelling/Norwood have shown they can be productive. If AJ or Schaub goes down...I don't feel comfortable at all with AJ's production or Jacoby Jones, respectively.

You need to do some research for the years that games that Schaub didnt play. Aj is the strongest lock of the draft. In a ppr why wouldnt you draft him high?

 

[Crash Davis]

It isn't a crapshoot in any way, shape, or form with SJax. He has been a RB1 for EVERY SINGLE ONE of the last 5 years. He is literally the only player who can claim that. He has rushed for over 1000 yards for EVERY SINGLE ONE of the last 5 years. He is literally the only player in the NFL to hold that distinction for one team. And all of that is true with him missing an average of 2 games per year and playing for an offense that has been historically bad the last 2-3 years.He averages almost 100 yards per game...in rushing alone. He averages over 100 ypg including receiving yards, even if you decide to toss out the monster 2006 season from your analysis.ETA: I would call him one of the top 3 most sure plays in fantasy football right now.

He has not been a RB1 for each of the last 5 years in either of my $$ leagues. in 2009 he was #12, in 2008 he was #14 and in 2007 he was #15. He's also missed 9 games over the past 3 years with various injuries including what seem like recurring back problems. Add in that his TD totals have fluctuated from 16, 6, 8, and 4 over the past 4 years and I don't see how you can consider him anything close to a sure thing first rounder. His performance over the past three years has put him as a borderline #1 at best for the entire season. You can give me all the excuses you want, but injuries and a terrible surrounding cast do not make me feel more comfortable about picking him since not much has changed this season. His o-line and QB will still be sub par at best and I have no way of knowing how healthy he will be. He is talented to be sure, but a sure thing in fantasy he is certainly not. I would take the #1 WR (A.Johnson) every day of the week and twice on Sundays over the #12-15 RB.

 

[dagwood]

I could easily live with AJ at six overall

 

[Instinctive]

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Moss has a higher ceiling, even at 33. T.O. at 33 was still producing, and Moss is more of a finess player anyways.For me, Andre can go 2nd or 3rd (after Austin). The guy has never seen double digit TDs and I see no reason it'll be any different this year. I doubt he repeats last years stats.

Didn't we say last year that he wouldn't be able to repeat the stats of the year before? And then he did?I have to say I agree on Moss, although here's my story.14 teams: 1.08: All RBs have gone, and none left in my top 2 tiers...so I have a decision between Moss, AJ, and my QB of choice. I thought Manning would fall to me in the 2nd, and so it was really a decision between receivers. I chose AJ. He's in his physical prime, he's an absolute monster, and he plays in a division that should lead to at least 6 high scoring games.Then a bunch of QBs went and Moss fell. So I took him too. And now that I have both on my team, I think I am genuinely more excited about the prospect of what Moss can do this year. With Brady a year out from healing off his surgery, and them working together all offseason again...it's scary what could come.

 

[Instinctive]

It isn't a crapshoot in any way, shape, or form with SJax. He has been a RB1 for EVERY SINGLE ONE of the last 5 years. He is literally the only player who can claim that. He has rushed for over 1000 yards for EVERY SINGLE ONE of the last 5 years. He is literally the only player in the NFL to hold that distinction for one team. And all of that is true with him missing an average of 2 games per year and playing for an offense that has been historically bad the last 2-3 years.He averages almost 100 yards per game...in rushing alone. He averages over 100 ypg including receiving yards, even if you decide to toss out the monster 2006 season from your analysis.ETA: I would call him one of the top 3 most sure plays in fantasy football right now.

He has not been a RB1 for each of the last 5 years in either of my $$ leagues. in 2009 he was #12, in 2008 he was #14 and in 2007 he was #15. He's also missed 9 games over the past 3 years with various injuries including what seem like recurring back problems. Add in that his TD totals have fluctuated from 16, 6, 8, and 4 over the past 4 years and I don't see how you can consider him anything close to a sure thing first rounder. His performance over the past three years has put him as a borderline #1 at best for the entire season. You can give me all the excuses you want, but injuries and a terrible surrounding cast do not make me feel more comfortable about picking him since not much has changed this season. His o-line and QB will still be sub par at best and I have no way of knowing how healthy he will be. He is talented to be sure, but a sure thing in fantasy he is certainly not. I would take the #1 WR (A.Johnson) every day of the week and twice on Sundays over the #12-15 RB.

I figured we were on FG, so we should use FBG scoring. And if he missed 3 games a year and STILL finished that high, doesn't that make him safer? What happens now when he could miss zero games? Injuries to RBs are complete chance 99% of the time, as is the case with SJax. If AD missed 7 games next year with an injury similar to what he sustained in college, would you avoid him thereafter?

 

[raidersfan]

Drafted yesterday in a 10 team ppr, got AJ at 1.07 and took DWill in the 2nd round. I'm happy with that. Some of my later RB's include McCoy, Bradshaw and Foster, so if one of those hits as a solid RB2 I like my chances.

 

[Crash Davis]

I figured we were on FG, so we should use FBG scoring.

My point still stands that a borderline #1 RB is less valuable than the consensus top WR to me at this point.

And if he missed 3 games a year and STILL finished that high, doesn't that make him safer?

No it doesn't. It just means he has the potential to be very good, but no one is questioning that. He's been hurt 3 years in a row missing more than one game and in multiple instances the time missed have been due to the same injury. I understand that injuries can happen to anyone, but Ignoring that history is not wise IMHO. Add in that the team surrounding him looks to be pretty bad again this year, specifically the O-Line and I just don't see how anyone can trumpet him as a sure thing. Is he an extremely talented player with upside? Of course. What he is not, is a "safe" first round pick.

Injuries to RBs are complete chance 99% of the time, as is the case with SJax. If AD missed 7 games next year with an injury similar to what he sustained in college, would you avoid him thereafter?

Would I avoid him completely? No. Would I take it into consideration when spending a 1st round pick on him? Absolutely. If he missed an average of 3 games a year over the span of 3 years and never finished inside the top 10 in any of those 3 years he would no longer be a guy I targeted to anchor my team as a 1st round pick.

 

[theToes]

I have the 8th pick in a 12 team PPR redraft and I am praying he falls to me.

 

[NCPanthersFan]

I would be interested in hearing thoughts with bonus scoring in mind. I also took Johnson at #6 in a non-ppr league. However that league rewards long TD's (both RB and WR) big time.

 

[Instinctive]

I would be interested in hearing thoughts with bonus scoring in mind. I also took Johnson at #6 in a non-ppr league. However that league rewards long TD's (both RB and WR) big time.

I might rather have Moss with that in mind

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I don't think Johnson is a bad pick at 1.06 but personally I'd probably rather draft a RB there and grab Moss in round 2. Hell, I may even just grab Johnson and Moss with my 1st 2 picks now that I think about it.

Moss's ADP is 1.11, I don't think if you own the NO. 6 pick in the draft, getting Andre Johnson and Randy Moss is an option.

 

[Instinctive]

I don't think Johnson is a bad pick at 1.06 but personally I'd probably rather draft a RB there and grab Moss in round 2. Hell, I may even just grab Johnson and Moss with my 1st 2 picks now that I think about it.

Moss's ADP is 1.11, I don't think if you own the NO. 6 pick in the draft, getting Andre Johnson and Randy Moss is an option.

Always possible. My money league this year I got AJ, then Moss, then Roddy. Drafts are wild and unpredictable beasts

 

[Hoart Petterson]

Anyone see the hit he took on his knee this weekend? How did he not blow out his knee on that play?

 

[abe froman]

At 1.6 I am going with SJ, Turner, or DWill...the OP had it right in that once you pick AJ with the #1 you are locked into taking some iffy rbs with your second round pick...plus how can any of you not be aware that pack mentality rarely pays off in fantasy football?

How many players from year to year are clear cut #1 at their position? Not many. For all we know, one of those 2nd round wide outs are going to be #1, as a matter of fact I would not be surprised to see Austin, Colston, White, or Marshall do just as well as AJ.

Sjackson, dwill or turner arent iffy? WIth Ajohnson you know what you are getting. You know what you are guaranteed to get. With those other guys its a crapshoot.

It isn't a crapshoot in any way, shape, or form with SJax. He has been a RB1 for EVERY SINGLE ONE of the last 5 years. He is literally the only player who can claim that. He has rushed for over 1000 yards for EVERY SINGLE ONE of the last 5 years. He is literally the only player in the NFL to hold that distinction for one team. And all of that is true with him missing an average of 2 games per year and playing for an offense that has been historically bad the last 2-3 years.He averages almost 100 yards per game...in rushing alone. He averages over 100 ypg including receiving yards, even if you decide to toss out the monster 2006 season from your analysis.

ETA: I would call him one of the top 3 most sure plays in fantasy football right now.

Going back to your prev post about having "old school drafting theories/tendencies" I think that is carrying over into your value of SJax in 2010. He ended up RB9 in my PPR league and also avgd 9th ppg for RB's. guys like Addai, Grant, Dewill/Jstew (fell between addai and Grant but avg'd .5 more ppg than Dewill Jstew and other RB's drafted 2-5 rounds after him). The point is if you can start a WR3 as your flex then it's very easy to pass on SJax for guys like AJ, Moss, Turner and a few others. Your scoring and roster requirements will dictate his value in your system, not how well he did in 2006 or what you think he is capable of. Fact is he's in STL and has a history of missing games > see game 16 2009 which is most leagues superbowl: hope your werent needing him to be there for you to win a championship.. Yes all RB's miss games so discount that if you feel u need to. I think the this year he drops out of top 10 with guys like Mendy, Mathews, JCharles, Greene(even in a PPR I think he wil have plenty of TD's and yards to get him in).

 

[Northbound Train]

I'd rather take MJD, Gore, Rice or Turner in the 1st, then a top 3-6 WR in the 2nd.

exactly

No brainer here

 

[Northbound Train]

Drafted yesterday in a 10 team ppr, got AJ at 1.07 and took DWill in the 2nd round. I'm happy with that. Some of my later RB's include McCoy, Bradshaw and Foster, so if one of those hits as a solid RB2 I like my chances.

No disrespect but can't you find 2 more guys to make it a "real" league...hell, I'll join your league next year to get it to at least 12 teams

 

[footballnerd]

PPR League projections

Steven Jackson possible 1600 total yds, 50 recs, and 5 TDs = 215 pts

Frank Gore possible 1500 total yds, 50 recs, and 12 TDs = 247 pts

Andre Johnson pretty solid 1500 total yds, 100 recs, and 9 TDs = 254 pts

 

[DonnyT33]

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If you have a shot to get AJ at six i say TAKE it every time esp in ppr leagues. I would even take him at five and some times even 4th I honestly consider taking him even top three some drafts WRS are flying off boards like never before and if you pass one with your first pick you will not get a top #1 WR this year and no position thins out quicker than WRs do this year. The RBs ive seen available at the turn picks 2-3 rounds in just about every draft Ive done so far have been really good ones. RBs like DeAngelo, Shoone Greene, Mendenhall, Charles and Matthews have been available at those spots in lots of drafts ive been in and ive been in alot of drafts this year up to now. I say get TWO good WRs in the first three rounds and fill in RBS and QBs after that. WR are being drafted early and often and keep getting drafted all draft long. Its a new phenomenon but its happening and you will get stuck hoping you grabbed the break out WRs if you pass them in the first three rounds this year. Its totally changed from years past when you could always find a good WR in the 7-11 rounds..not so anymore as its pick and hope if you wait that long and still need a #3 or #4 WR. I think having Andre is a pretty good advantage this season and whoever can get him past pick five is doing OK imo. If you get him higher than that you are really doing great. If you think of it he might be the only WR with absolutely no concerns this season. Randy Moss would be the only other WR that Id feel Ok getting after AJ but if Andre is on the board when you pick in roudn one think long and hard before you pass him to the next lucky owner.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

I'd rather take MJD, Gore, Rice or Turner in the 1st, then a top 3-6 WR in the 2nd.

exactly

No brainer here

In a 12 or 14 team league, WRs are flying off the board between picks 1.07 and 2.09, though. I've seen as many as 7 WRs go in between your 1st and 2nd pick. Of course, that means you can grab a better RB in the 2nd (or QB)...but that's why its tough to take a RB in the 1st, because so many WRs are coming off the board in the late 1st, early 2nd....you may be looking at a top 10 RB in the 2nd. Not exactly a no brainer.

 

[DonnyT33]

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Moss has a higher ceiling, even at 33. T.O. at 33 was still producing, and Moss is more of a finess player anyways.For me, Andre can go 2nd or 3rd (after Austin). The guy has never seen double digit TDs and I see no reason it'll be any different this year. I doubt he repeats last years stats.

your crazy to take Austin before AJ. Moss possibly but that's it and i would not the Pats will run more and spread it around more this year. I so hope i get in leagues with owners like you in them if im sitting with picks 5-7 this year thats if he does not got top three which i have seen alot of this year.

 

[Mr. Fusion]

I would be interested in hearing thoughts with bonus scoring in mind. I also took Johnson at #6 in a non-ppr league. However that league rewards long TD's (both RB and WR) big time.

I might rather have Moss with that in mind

Me too, despite being a Bills fan. AJ doesn't score a lot of TDs of any length.

 

[DonnyT33]

I'd rather take MJD, Gore, Rice or Turner in the 1st, then a top 3-6 WR in the 2nd.

exactly

No brainer here

you guys better take more looks at drafts already done..you will not ever get a top 3 WR in the second round this year unless you have pick 2.01 and even then its not likely. If your 2nd rd pick is past 2.5 you might not even get a top 6 WR.

 

[icehouse]

How would your strategies change if you were in a league where you only had to start 1RB (other spot is a flex) and WRs got .5 PPR?

 

[DonnyT33]

Anyone see the hit he took on his knee this weekend? How did he not blow out his knee on that play?

thing is HE DID NOT...just don't like posting like this..without you saying more im not really sure what you are trying to get at? EVERY player has the same chance of getting injured..IF IF IF..IF i win the powerball.

 

[FUBAR]

I'd rather take MJD, Gore, Rice or Turner in the 1st, then a top 3-6 WR in the 2nd.

exactly

No brainer here

you guys better take more looks at drafts already done..you will not ever get a top 3 WR in the second round this year unless you have pick 2.01 and even then its not likely. If your 2nd rd pick is past 2.5 you might not even get a top 6 WR.

You probably won't get one of the first 3-6 selected but you could easily end up with a top 3-6 WR at the end of the year.

 

[FUBAR]

Anyone see the hit he took on his knee this weekend? How did he not blow out his knee on that play?

thing is HE DID NOT...just don't like posting like this..without you saying more im not really sure what you are trying to get at? EVERY player has the same chance of getting injured..IF IF IF..IF i win the powerball.

I didn't see the play but if he's not getting injured on plays where most would, that might be a good sign for him.

 

[Hoart Petterson]

Anyone see the hit he took on his knee this weekend? How did he not blow out his knee on that play?

thing is HE DID NOT...just don't like posting like this..without you saying more im not really sure what you are trying to get at? EVERY player has the same chance of getting injured..IF IF IF..IF i win the powerball.

Say what? It was a crazy hit right on the side of the knee. His knee bent inward at a 45 degree angle. I'm not saying he did get hurt and I'm not trying to get at anything. Just saying he dodged a huge bullet. Even Tim Brando said during the telecast that it was a hit that most guys don't get up from. Guess you had to see it.

 

[rjv]

IN PPR, I took Andre at the 4 spot over both Rice and Drew-Jones. I want a player I can rely on. I love Addai in late round 4-early round 5 as one of my RB's instead of taking some of the WR's left at that point instead.

I could take Andre at 1.3 in a PPR league and be happy about it. Now non PPR is a different story

 

[gump]

I'd rather take MJD, Gore, Rice or Turner in the 1st, then a top 3-6 WR in the 2nd.

exactly

No brainer here

you guys better take more looks at drafts already done..you will not ever get a top 3 WR in the second round this year unless you have pick 2.01 and even then its not likely. If your 2nd rd pick is past 2.5 you might not even get a top 6 WR.

Depends on your rankings...but I have Austin and White in my top 5, and I've gotten at least 1 in about 20 straight mocks at 2.5 on FFC.

 

[wolfeman]

this has been a good read. At 7 in my 12 man redraft,ppr im looking at AJ or brees(top qb). I like having a top QB a lot...

 

[the spanker]

I don't understand what the fuss is about on not getting a top 6 WR if you draft early, so what?

Let those guys take those Wrs and I'll be filling in my roster with 3 down RBs like Benson and Grant in the 2/3 round. WRs are fickle anyway, they giveth and taketh away more than any position.

If you you have a top 4-5 pick and not draft a 3-down GL running back, your smokin somethin.

Where is that Ricky smokin bong smile face on here?