Andre Johnson in the Texans last 16 games. (1 Viewer)

[Righetti]

we all love Andre Johnson's potential but his numbers are sometimes a bit overblowngoing over the last 16 games the Texans have played shows a very mediocre #1 receiver.2004his last 11 games in 2004Tennessee 4/66/0Jacksonville 9/74/0Denver 3/28/0Indianapolis 6/59/0GreenBay 6/107/0Tennessee 4/34/1NY Jets 7/125/0Indianapolis 3/34/0Chicago 2/31/0Jacksonville 4/46/1Cleveland 2/13/02005the Texans first 5 games in 2005Buffalo 3/18/0Pittsburgh 4/20/0Cincinatti 3/38/0Tennesee 0/0/0Seatle DNP injuryin the last 16 games he has the following stats60 catches for 693 yards and 2 TD'sNow that is not very impressive and it does take out the big 5 games he had to start off the 2004 season.. but his play in the Texans last 16 games have been very pedestrianto be fair, the first five games 2004 were dominatinghe had4/58/0 against sandiego3/86/1 against detroit4/95/0 against kansas city6/115/1 against oakland12/170/2 against Minnesota

 

[AnonymousBob]

In related news, water is wet.You're a bit late with this newsflash but better late than never. Glad to see we converted another AJ lover back to reality.

 

[Righetti]

In related news, water is wet.

You're a bit late with this newsflash but better late than never. Glad to see we converted another AJ lover back to reality.

thanks rookie..

 

[AnonymousBob]

In related news, water is wet.

You're a bit late with this newsflash but better late than never.  Glad to see we converted another AJ lover back to reality.

thanks rookie..

Hey I've openly bashed him in plenty of threads. I have no sympathy for people who drafted him this year-they deserve what they got. No problem, old timer.

 

[Patoons]

Until they get a better O-line or QB, he will continue to underperform his ability. With the right QB and system, he has the talent to be a dominant player.They'll bring in Leinart next year, which is a step in the right direction. Dynasty= great value at this point.

 

[Righetti]

did not draft AJ, don't own him in any league and never cared all that much about him.. Was looking over his numbers and was underwhelmed by his performance....

 

[AnonymousBob]

Until they get a better O-line or QB, he will continue to underperform his ability. With the right QB and system, he has the talent to be a dominant player.

They'll bring in Leinart next year, which is a step in the right direction. Dynasty= great value at this point.

A qb is not their most pressing need. They need a new coach and o-line. Leinart would get killed behind that line.

 

[Patoons]

Until they get a better O-line or QB, he will continue to underperform his ability. With the right QB and system, he has the talent to be a dominant player.

They'll bring in Leinart next year, which is a step in the right direction. Dynasty= great value at this point.

A qb is not their most pressing need. They need a new coach and o-line. Leinart would get killed behind that line.

He'd still be better than Carr. That boy is lost!

 

[Righetti]

AJ is starting to have a real Jerry Porter feel to him

 

[The Duff Man]

AJ joins a long list of young WRs who every year is valued more highly in drafts than the older proven performers like Driver, J Smith and R Smith. Anyone who thought he wouldn't perform up to his ADP can pat themselves on the back...but don't pretend like you thought it would be this bad. Based on his numbers he probably shouldn't even be on a roster in most leagues.I didn't draft him in any of my three redraft leagues, but did have him in my dynasty league and unloaded him last week. I added a 3rd round and picked up a 1st and 2nd round pick. I could have gotten twice as much had I moved him this off season...but as it is I think I was lucky to get even that much.Side note: 12 team league, small rosters of only 16 so roster spots for guys with "potential" are limited.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

You're a bit late with this newsflash but better late than never. Glad to see we converted another AJ lover back to reality.

I could have used some of this wisdom back in august.I kept AJ over Steve Smith

 

[gpp]

we all love Andre Johnson's potential but his numbers are sometimes a bit overblown

going over the last 16 games the Texans have played shows a very mediocre #1 receiver.

2004

his last 11 games in 2004

Tennessee 4/66/0

Jacksonville 9/74/0

Denver 3/28/0

Indianapolis 6/59/0

GreenBay 6/107/0

Tennessee 4/34/1

NY Jets 7/125/0

Indianapolis 3/34/0

Chicago 2/31/0

Jacksonville 4/46/1

Cleveland 2/13/0

2005

the Texans first 5 games in 2005

Buffalo 3/18/0

Pittsburgh 4/20/0

Cincinatti 3/38/0

Tennesee 0/0/0

Seatle DNP injury

in the last 16 games he has the following stats

60 catches for 693 yards and 2 TD's

Now that is not very impressive and it does take out the big 5 games he had to start off the 2004 season.. but his play in the Texans last 16 games have been very pedestrian

to be fair, the first five games 2004 were dominating

he had

4/58/0 against sandiego

3/86/1 against detroit

4/95/0 against kansas city

6/115/1 against oakland

12/170/2 against Minnesota

It was funny when you ask guys why AJ is a top 10 WR, and they uses to spout off about "monster", "physical talent" and the classic "it's his 3rd year". Like he's magically going to become a top 10 WR, with that o-line and QB. Um, no.

 

[David Yudkin]

I've been waiving giant red flags on AJ as far back as a year ago and have gone out of my way to get people to realize that the hype far outclassed the production, the coaching philosophy, and the environment. He was on my overvalued player list each opportunity I had, and I said the chances of him earning back his status as a Top 10 WR was close to none. I felt at the time that he would need a miracle to make the Top 20 and would even need help to be in the Top 30. (Not meant as a toot-my-own-horn post but more of a the-writing-was-on-the-wall post.)

 

[Otis]

I've been waiving giant red flags on AJ as far back as a year ago and have gone out of my way to get people to realize that the hype far outclassed the production, the coaching philosophy, and the environment. He was on my overvalued player list each opportunity I had, and I said the chances of him earning back his status as a Top 10 WR was close to none. I felt at the time that he would need a miracle to make the Top 20 and would even need help to be in the Top 30. (Not meant as a toot-my-own-horn post but more of a the-writing-was-on-the-wall post.)

Earning back? There is this general assumption in fantasy that Andre Johnson was a top-10 receiver at some point. He's never even cracked top-15.What an overrated sack of rags.

 

[Iron_Far]

As a AJ owner in multiple leagues, all I can do is -

 

[jurb26]

You're a bit late with this newsflash but better late than never. Glad to see we converted another AJ lover back to reality.

I could have used some of this wisdom back in august.I kept AJ over Steve Smith

OUCH!

 

[David Yudkin]

I've been waiving giant red flags on AJ as far back as a year ago and have gone out of my way to get people to realize that the hype far outclassed the production, the coaching philosophy, and the environment.  He was on my overvalued player list each opportunity I had, and I said the chances of him earning back his status as a Top 10 WR was close to none.  I felt at the time that he would need a miracle to make the Top 20 and would even need help to be in the Top 30.  (Not meant as a toot-my-own-horn post but more of a the-writing-was-on-the-wall post.)

Earning back? There is this general assumption in fantasy that Andre Johnson was a top-10 receiver at some point. He's never even cracked top-15.What an overrated sack of rags.

I never said he was a Top 10 WR, only that he was being DRAFTED as a Top 10 WR which was insanity.

 

[jurb26]

All I can say is I'm glad I sold this guy while his price was still high. I too once believed the AJ hype, but came to my senses some time the past off-season and traded him away. Only problem is the deal included my aquiring K.Jones and the other overhyped young gun. Oh well, still got Branch out of the deal.

 

[AnonymousBob]

I've been waiving giant red flags on AJ as far back as a year ago and have gone out of my way to get people to realize that the hype far outclassed the production, the coaching philosophy, and the environment.  He was on my overvalued player list each opportunity I had, and I said the chances of him earning back his status as a Top 10 WR was close to none.  I felt at the time that he would need a miracle to make the Top 20 and would even need help to be in the Top 30.  (Not meant as a toot-my-own-horn post but more of a the-writing-was-on-the-wall post.)

Earning back? There is this general assumption in fantasy that Andre Johnson was a top-10 receiver at some point. He's never even cracked top-15.What an overrated sack of rags.

I never said he was a Top 10 WR, only that he was being DRAFTED as a Top 10 WR which was insanity.

People were drafting him not long after the likes of Chad Johnson which was complete insanity. His first two years are closer to Kennison type production and Eddie went much later. A guy who tops out with 1200 yards and 5 td's shouldn't get drafted anytime soon yet draft after draft AJ flew off in the top ten wr's. Yet another example of people drafting someone for their name and NOT their actual production.

What can be learned from this disaster?

Team talent is important.

Actual talent does not = fantasy production.

Pay attention to end of the year results. IMO the last half of a season can be a HUGE forewarning for next year.

 

[Righetti]

add in the stinkers he has put up since this post and you are looking at a very overvalued receiver.I love the kid's potential..but then again i've been waiting for Jerry Porters potential for 3 years now

 

[Steelers4Life]

I recently traded Stephen Davis for him in a dynasty league. Eventually, talent wins out, and he has talent.If the Texans address their offensive line, maybe AJ would have time to run routes longer than 8 yard curls.I also believe that David Carr is better than he can show behind that line. He's not a superstar, but he's not nearly as bad as some people want to believe. What he is now is a product of getting sacked 5 times per game for several years, so he has no confidence that the pocket will hold up for him.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

I don't feel like doing the research, but I don't think the guy's had a touchdown since the fifth week of last season or something. He's just in a bad situation.Edit: After doing some research, this is incorrect. He had a couple of touchdowns in the last half of last season.

 

[SproutDaddy]

All I can say is a traded Alex Smith and Donte Stallworth for AJ and Chris Chambers a couple of weeks ago when he was hurt in one of my dynasty leagues. WR was my weakest position. I love this for the future seeing as though I am a few pieces away from completing the puzzle. AJ has shown he can produce. Houston is missing a few pieces as well.

 

[Chitown Mole]

All I can say is a traded Alex Smith and Donte Stallworth for AJ and Chris Chambers a couple of weeks ago when he was hurt in one of my dynasty leagues. WR was my weakest position. I love this for the future seeing as though I am a few pieces away from completing the puzzle. AJ has shown he can produce. Houston is missing a few pieces as well.

AJ won't produce much until we get a better QB than Carr. On this morning's show, Center Steve McKinney said that Carr kept checking out of run plays to all those hitches we saw over and over Sunday night. Carr has zero instinct and is a miserable qb.

 

[pghrob]

AJ's temper was flaring Sunday v. the Chiefs. So it could be he was seething, but he just seemed to be so disgusted.When you are used to being a winner (The "U")and then thrown into what feels like a perpetual loosing spiral (The Texans), well, that has got to erode your attitude. When the attitude goes, so goes the game.

 

[AnonymousBob]

All I can say is a traded Alex Smith and Donte Stallworth for AJ and Chris Chambers a couple of weeks ago when he was hurt in one of my dynasty leagues.  WR was my weakest position.  I love this for the future seeing as though I am a few pieces away from completing the puzzle.  AJ has shown he can produce.  Houston is missing a few pieces as well.

AJ won't produce much until we get a better QB than Carr. On this morning's show, Center Steve McKinney said that Carr kept checking out of run plays to all those hitches we saw over and over Sunday night. Carr has zero instinct and is a miserable qb.

Hmm, that is interesting. Especially because I own DD. I don't feel qb is a need of theirs but if that comment by the center is true, perhaps I'm wrong.

 

[AnonymousBob]

I've been waiving giant red flags on AJ as far back as a year ago and have gone out of my way to get people to realize that the hype far outclassed the production, the coaching philosophy, and the environment.  He was on my overvalued player list each opportunity I had, and I said the chances of him earning back his status as a Top 10 WR was close to none.  I felt at the time that he would need a miracle to make the Top 20 and would even need help to be in the Top 30.  (Not meant as a toot-my-own-horn post but more of a the-writing-was-on-the-wall post.)

Earning back? There is this general assumption in fantasy that Andre Johnson was a top-10 receiver at some point. He's never even cracked top-15.What an overrated sack of rags.

I never said he was a Top 10 WR, only that he was being DRAFTED as a Top 10 WR which was insanity.

People were drafting him not long after the likes of Chad Johnson which was complete insanity. His first two years are closer to Kennison type production and Eddie went much later. A guy who tops out with 1200 yards and 5 td's shouldn't get drafted anytime soon yet draft after draft AJ flew off in the top ten wr's. Yet another example of people drafting someone for their name and NOT their actual production.

What can be learned from this disaster?

Team talent is important.

Actual talent does not = fantasy production.

Pay attention to end of the year results. IMO the last half of a season can be a HUGE forewarning for next year.

Kennison: 646 yards, 4 td'sAJ: 259 yards, 0 td's

Ok, Andre has been hurt, so let us give the point per game:

Kennison: 9.8

AJ: 4

Might next year FINALLY be the year he's not overvalued?

 

[jonessed]

Until they get a better O-line or QB, he will continue to underperform his ability.  With the right QB and system, he has the talent to be a dominant player.

They'll bring in Leinart next year, which is a step in the right direction.  Dynasty= great value at this point.

A qb is not their most pressing need. They need a new coach and o-line. Leinart would get killed behind that line.

He'd still be better than Carr. That boy is lost!

He's not lost. He knows exactly where he is throwing the ball. As evidenced by his two second receiver stare-down prior to release.

 

[Billy1x]

Bad coach & offensive coorinator. Didn't even try to throw him the ball in the second half.Now the coach should be gone next year and Martz is looking for a job and next year there are a lot of offensive lineman in the draft. Whats your take on Johnson next year if Martz is the coach?

 

[lod2005]

Hey I've openly bashed him in plenty of threads. I have no sympathy for people who drafted him this year-they deserve what they got. No problem, old timer.

Bash AJ all you want. You are clueless when you do as the ones to be bashed are the pile of crap behind center and his buddies Capers and casserly.

AJ is a super talent on the worst NFL team ever assembled since the start of Free agency.

 

[pghrob]

AJ and offense are very frustrated. Are they on the verge of meltdown and implosion?

Read more about here.

 

[Bird]

AJ's stats his last 8 games:52/609/2Who thinks this assures another overvalued WR Top 10 selection in 2006???

 

[Mathematics]

AJ's stats his last 8 games:

52/609/2

Who thinks this assures another overvalued WR Top 10 selection in 2006???

I can't understand anyone taking AJ as a top 20 WR next season. Of the 8 games you mention, he's had two big games, 1 decent game and 5 games of crap. He's really not even worth taking until the 7th round (at the earliest). Someone will fall victim to the hype and take him way earlier next year anyways. What a huge bust this year.

 

[lod2005]

AJ's stats his last 8 games:

52/609/2

Who thinks this assures another overvalued WR Top 10 selection in 2006???

I can't understand anyone taking AJ as a top 20 WR next season. Of the 8 games you mention, he's had two big games, 1 decent game and 5 games of crap. He's really not even worth taking until the 7th round (at the earliest). Someone will fall victim to the hype and take him way earlier next year anyways. What a huge bust this year.

Thanks to carr, capers and casserly.