IIRC, the Texans would have to eat the $12 million cap charge immediately and would have to apply it to their 2014 salary cap. Some articles make it sound like they had the option to break up the cap hit across this year and next year, but I am 99% teams only have that option when they cut a player outright and not trade him. Last I looked, HOU had about $10 million of cap room (who know how accurate that is), so technically they have room to move Johnson (over $14 million already allocated to him for this year).
HOW COULD THEY POSSIBLY
NOT HAVE CAP ROOM TO MOVE HIM WHEN IT'S
LESS CAP TO TRADE HIM THAN IT IS TO KEEP HIM??????????
Gotcha. Still think you're missing the point that it doesn't benefit the Texans to trade him for something like a 3rd.
One year of AJ > 3rd and $2M in cap room.
in which one of my posts did I advocate them trading him for a 3rd?? JFC this board
#######g mike judge is a visionary
What do you think is realistic compensation the Texas could receive for him?
well, that would really vary by team and I'd need a crystal ball up my ### or a front office position in the nfl to give any kind of meaningful opinion on that.
if you just want an opinion from some ####### guy on a message board I'd have to guess something like a 2nd round pick because of his age and contract -- that seems to be the most popular opinion, anyway.
if you look around for precedent you'll see all kinds of trades that get done that wouldn't get done with other teams -- like any other kind of trading, price is generally what you can get.
the pats got moss for less, if I remember right, but of course he had that oakland baggage and was willing to tear up his big money deal to get out of oakland --- I don't really see andre doing that.
think the pats ended up getting a third(?) for him from minny a few years later -- yudkin probably remembers exactly what it was, but that was partway into the season already.
bill o'brien was on staff for both of those deals.
richard seymour is maybe another point of comparison --- they actually got a first rounder for him from al davis, but unfortunately al is dead now.
bill o'brien was on that patriots team.
what did you think of the cassel deal --- fair, or did one side fleece the other?
that cassel deal was as much about contracts as anything else, like a lot of these deals.
the reality is you might as well ask minny what herschel walker is worth.
sometimes teams value players differently than we do, but I think a first would probably be unlikely just because of how cost controlled these young guys are --- you need just the right match of partners on a lot of these things.
and let's not forget --- many of us fantasy players had given up already on andre johnson 2 years ago.
I know because I drafted him the last 2 or 3 years and won't forget the ridicule I was subjected to --- everybody felt he lost a step, was painfully slow, couldn't score, etc, etc, and that was, like, 2 years ago.
let's also not forget how he was the focus of that offensive scheme --- I won't say he was freeloading, but the coaching staff gave that guy a ton more opportunity than he might've had elsewhere, and there's a chance he's looking for a fitzgerald contract.
you will not see pierre garcon with 184 targets this year.
