Andy D's 2nd annual Super-Mega, 3 Round, Post-Combine, (1 Viewer)

[Andy Dufresne]

9. Cincinnati Bengals - Glenn Dorsey, DT - L.S.U.

They've tipped their hand quite a bit considering the attempted acquisition of both Shaun Rogers and Dwayne Robertson. Questions that they may switch to the 3-4 were likely answered when they tried to trade Dewayne Robertson, who was NOT a fit for the same scheme for the Jets.

Many will say that Dorsey shouldn't fall this far, and I agree. But like was said before, he has similar injury concerns that Alan Branch had last year and Branch was also talked about as a top 5 pick in the run up to the draft.

That's not quite apples-to-apples. Pre-injury Dorsey was talked about as the consensus #1 if he came out. Even post-injury he was talked about as the #1 overall. Branch never sniffed his pedigree.

Branch was talked about quite extensively as top 5. But also, Dorsey doesn't fall that far here.

FWIW, not to hijack, but here's how you stack up thus far to Mel who released his latest mock today:

1 Miami Dolphins Chris Long, DE Virginia 2 St. Louis Rams Glenn Dorsey, DT LSU 3 Atlanta Falcons Matt Ryan, QB Boston College 4 Oakland Raiders *Darren McFadden, RB Arkansas 5 Kansas City Chiefs Jake Long, OT Michigan 6 New York Jets *Vernon Gholston, DE Ohio St. 7 New England Patriots (from SF) Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB Tennessee St. 8 Baltimore Ravens Sedrick Ellis, DT USC

Awesome! They're nothing alike!

 

[el centro]

Construx and EBF should be the Mayock and Kiper in the booth.

I saw some roadkill on the way back from lunch. Let me go get it and put it on my head and I'll be Kiper. EBF should have no issue being Mayock. [lisp]

 

[Dope]

Here's you're pre-emptive boo, Jets fans.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't forget a little extra for Dope, since he is missing it:BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! *throws beer can at TV* BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Your knish just hit Roger Goddell in the lapel.I don't hate it, I'm just not completely sure he's the surefire stud he's cracked up to be.

In real life if this situation happens, they better make that deal with Jerruh Jones.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I have a meeting at 3:00 that will last 15 minutes or so. I'll post #10 before then and if people want to keep going when I get back, we will.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

OK, put me on record as saying the Pats WON'T go CB at #7. The amount of guaranteed money you shell out at that slot isn't that far off what they would have needed to retain Samuel. Why would the Pats give those guaranteed $$$ to an unproven rookie over a Pro Bowler.

because they have to give that money to the #7 anyway, and they didn't want to do it for 2 players?

You're missing the point: The Patriots have never felt that DB as a position is worth shelling out premium money. They've proven it with Ty Law and Asante Samuel. They've believed in COACHING UP the defensive backfield rather than overpaying for individuals. For me, a big hint was the Pats bringing in Dom Capers this year.

They're going to need some serious coaching up then with Ellis Hobbs, recently acquired Webster, and converted Merriweather. That's a pretty impressive group.

 

[eric rymer]

I have a meeting at 3:00 that will last 15 minutes or so. I'll post #10 before then and if people want to keep going when I get back, we will.

Keep going....keep going. Work is slow and I need this.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

OK, put me on record as saying the Pats WON'T go CB at #7. The amount of guaranteed money you shell out at that slot isn't that far off what they would have needed to retain Samuel. Why would the Pats give those guaranteed $$$ to an unproven rookie over a Pro Bowler.

because they have to give that money to the #7 anyway, and they didn't want to do it for 2 players?

You're missing the point: The Patriots have never felt that DB as a position is worth shelling out premium money. They've proven it with Ty Law and Asante Samuel. They've believed in COACHING UP the defensive backfield rather than overpaying for individuals. For me, a big hint was the Pats bringing in Dom Capers this year.

They're going to need some serious coaching up then with Ellis Hobbs, recently acquired Webster, and converted Merriweather. That's a pretty impressive group.

Exactly. Any other year the "the Pats wait on cornerbacks" mantra would be true. But both starters were lost and that changes things dramatically.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

10. New Orleans Saints - Leodis McKelvin, CB - Troy

Hopefully signing Randall Gay works out better than signing Jason David did. With Mike McKenzie coming back from an ACL tear, and Usama Young not ready for prime time, bringing in two new guys would be a good move.

I know they'd like to improve the interior d-line as well as the safety spot, but I don't think any guy's worth it at this point. Assuming he stays healthy, the addition of Vilma improves what was possibly the worst linebacking corps in the league last year.

Be back in about 15...

 

[NYCGangGreen]

Here's you're pre-emptive boo, Jets fans.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't forget a little extra for Dope, since he is missing it:BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! *throws beer can at TV* BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Your knish just hit Roger Goddell in the lapel.I don't hate it, I'm just not completely sure he's the surefire stud he's cracked up to be.

In real life if this situation happens, they better make that deal with Jerruh Jones.

I was looking forward to that knish for lunch too. ( I hope that it was at least loaded with good deli mustard, so it ruined his shirt. )

 

[el centro]

Seriously... this is one of the best threads in MONTHS!!! I'm on the edge of my seat (just like the draft), scrolling thru to find each pick & feedback! I am finding this to be a very solid Mock thus far... Rock-on Andy!

 

[Anarchy99]

Exactly. Any other year the "the Pats wait on cornerbacks" mantra would be true. But both starters were lost and that changes things dramatically.

Hobbs has been and will continue to be a starter. Gay was a backup and Wilson was mostly inactive (by choice, not by injury).If the Pats have a secondary of Harrison/Sanders/Meriweather/Webster/Hobbs/Law/Draft pick, I don't think that that is horrendous.

 

[Dope]

Here's you're pre-emptive boo, Jets fans.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't forget a little extra for Dope, since he is missing it:BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! *throws beer can at TV* BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Your knish just hit Roger Goddell in the lapel.I don't hate it, I'm just not completely sure he's the surefire stud he's cracked up to be.

In real life if this situation happens, they better make that deal with Jerruh Jones.

I was looking forward to that knish for lunch too. ( I hope that it was at least loaded with good deli mustard, so it ruined his shirt. )

Of course there's mustard.The stain looks like a shadow drawing of Rich Kotite.

I've never seen a stain look so bewildered.

 

[kremenull]

4. Oakland Raiders- Chris Long, DE - Virginia

This would be a difficult choice for Leisure Suit Alan, wouldn't it? Does he take the guy with the flashy skills (McFadden) or the kid of one of the franchises all-time greats?

Since they signed Fargas to a relatively big deal (of course I think I could get a deal from the Raiders this off season) and the fact that they paid Tommy Kelly absurd money to move inside, I think they fill the gap at the DE spot with Chris Long. Too bad for Chris Long and good news for Darren McFadden.

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I'm curious as to how he would be accepted with the Raider fans with him being Howies son. I think they would love the kid and the pick.Whenever I think of bad fan reactions at the combine I always think of the Raider fans elling and screaming. I think they would very happy with the pick.

Huh??.....Raider fans are some of the most knowledgable football fans anywhere. And we NEVER boo our picks.......eh-humm, eh-hummmm, Eagle fan must be what you meant, say it ain't so D.McNabb....Such ignorant souls.......they'll be booing again this year, as always.......while mi Raider amigos will be cheering wildly and rolling out the welcome mat whoever we pick.......that's FANDOM!

 

[Andy Dufresne]

11. Buffalo Bills- Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB - Tennessee St.

As his Senior Bowl and combine performances show, he's a top flight athlete. The signing of Bryant Johnson is decent enough that they can postpone

taking a WR until later.

I'd like to see Malcolm Kelly go here too and it would be a wise pick considering that Lee Evans is in the last year of his contract. But in the AFC East, again, you need a lot of defense.

 

[kremenull]

Well, the Chiefs target just went by the wayside....now they probably would go for a reach like Clady @ 5.

Yup.5. Kansas City Chiefs - Ryan Clady, OT - Boise St.

The simple fact is that it was hard to find a worse o-line in the league last year. Clady showed at his pro day that he could be this year's Levi Brown - the tackle that gets picked a bit higher than he should. However, Clady's probably a better prospect than Brown.

Clady's pro day went extremely well.

I'm tempted to put someone like Mike Jenkins or McKelvin here since they released Ty Law, but the position is deep and their type of corner is typically drafted later on. Another consideration is taking the surprisingly falling Glenn Dorsey. But they spent 2nd and 3rd rounders on the DT spot last year and I think they give them a chance to develop.

Addition....better than Brown and J.Long.......

 

[Reaper]

4. Oakland Raiders- Chris Long, DE - Virginia

This would be a difficult choice for Leisure Suit Alan, wouldn't it? Does he take the guy with the flashy skills (McFadden) or the kid of one of the franchises all-time greats?

Since they signed Fargas to a relatively big deal (of course I think I could get a deal from the Raiders this off season) and the fact that they paid Tommy Kelly absurd money to move inside, I think they fill the gap at the DE spot with Chris Long. Too bad for Chris Long and good news for Darren McFadden.

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I'm curious as to how he would be accepted with the Raider fans with him being Howies son. I think they would love the kid and the pick.Whenever I think of bad fan reactions at the combine I always think of the Raider fans elling and screaming. I think they would very happy with the pick.

Huh??.....Raider fans are some of the most knowledgable football fans anywhere. And we NEVER boo our picks.......eh-humm, eh-hummmm, Eagle fan must be what you meant, say it ain't so D.McNabb....Such ignorant souls.......they'll be booing again this year, as always.......while mi Raider amigos will be cheering wildly and rolling out the welcome mat whoever we pick.......that's FANDOM!

Yelling Screaming, Booing and being excited about the draft doesn't prove Knowledge...Jets fans are the butt of jokes when this topic comes up but, you know what - Show me where Jets fans Boo'd and were wrong... That Video that floats around shows the Jets Booing what - picking Ken Obrien over Dan Marino... Passing On Sapp "we Want Sapp"!!!!! Raider fans would have CHEERED THAT!!!!!! I don't think so.

On and on.... I think if Jets fans ran those drafts for the past 25 years the team would have been quite a bit better off..... Bryan Thomas over Ed Reed... COME ON!!!!

 

[eric rymer]

11. Buffalo Bills- Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB - Tennessee St.

As his Senior Bowl and combine performances show, he's a top flight athlete. The signing of Bryant Johnson is decent enough that they can postpone

taking a WR until later.

I'd like to see Malcolm Kelly go here too and it would be a wise pick considering that Lee Evans is in the last year of his contract. But in the AFC East, again, you need a lot of defense.

Agreed . This pick could go either way. A deep WR class makes the CB pick here a little easier.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Backtracking a bit, here's even more reason for the Falcons to go DT with their #1:

Falcons DT injured coming down stairs

Defensive tackle just became an even bigger need for the Falcons. Trey Lewis re-injured his surgically repaired right knee in a freak accident and will require additional surgery, according to his agent, Richard Katz. "He's having some surgery this week," Katz said. "Basically, he's lost the three months that he's been rehabbing." Lewis suffered the latest setback coming down a set of stairs. He first injured his knee, a torn anterior cruciate ligament against Tampa Bay on Nov. 18. "It's tough for us, but it is also disappointing for Trey because he was making tremendous progress in his rehabilitation," Falcons coach Mike Smith said. -- Atlanta Journal-Constitution

 

[Bob Magaw]

great mock so far, andy...

breaking down team needs with crystalline lucidity, as always...

also, really liking the team colors incorporated into the team pick/player announcements...

i do think the dolphins will take chris long at 1.1, obviously the key is their evaluation of beck... if the first pick is different, that could set the dominos tumbling later on down the line...

IF ryan goes first, i think rams are looking at chris & jake long, as well as dorsey... dorsey scares me with the potential medical red flags... if it were me, i probably take howie's son, but i'll be thrilled with either pick, as either could make the team better for years, & look like impact players (at impact positions)... if i'm right, dolphins take chris long, & rams front office/coaching staff draft war room don't have to agonize over THAT decision (though maybe they do after jake long or dorsey)...

if MIA takes chris long & STL jake long, i think ATL grabs matt ryan... if first two picks are chris long & dorsey, than i could easily see ATL taking jake long to help with their new power rushing attack, with "the burner" as focal point... certainly landing the QB of future in draft (if they take ryan) & RB of future in free agency would be a coup, as well, and help the falcons fan base put the nightmarish '07 season behind them...

no idea what raiders do (figuring them out is a more odious task than even pats)? DT would make sense... they already have some pretty good players on second & third level of defense... dorsey would make nice replacement for sapp's skill set, OAK has strong ties to USC program so ellis makes sense... which is exactly why i predict in a different direction... d-mac fulfills al's need for speed, & could take some pressure off the development of the young QB... off field concerns & character questions, some say... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! though not nearly as big or strong, mcfadden may remind count chocula of another playmaking RB in black & silver with explosive burst, suddenness & acceleration who could take it to the house on any given play... bo jackson... with peterson's success last year as runaway ROY, this may be tipping point for davis (though it is true they aren't same player, mcfadden can still be extremely explosive in his own way...

if jake long somehow escapes clutches of STL & ATL (they take dorsey, ryan?), his going to KC would be one of the easier projections of the entire draft...

* while fargas was re-signed, i don't think he got THAT much money, and since there are some questions about whether mcfadden could withstand the punishment associated with the rigors of playing RB in NFL, they might be needed complements (fargas also comes with WELL deserved attendant durability concerns)...

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Exactly. Any other year the "the Pats wait on cornerbacks" mantra would be true. But both starters were lost and that changes things dramatically.

Hobbs has been and will continue to be a starter. Gay was a backup and Wilson was mostly inactive (by choice, not by injury).If the Pats have a secondary of Harrison/Sanders/Meriweather/Webster/Hobbs/Law/Draft pick, I don't think that that is horrendous.

Law? Who's Law? And what draft pick to you think?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

12. Denver Broncos- Chris Williams, OT - Vanderbilt

Wow did this team fall apart at the seams quickly or what? Lepsis retires, Walker is cut, Marcus Thomas in trouble (sounds like he may be innocent). OOOF!

I know there's talk Ryan Harris may take Lepsis' spot, but he didn't show enough last year to prove that he's capable. Williams is the big yet nimble tackle that fits perfectly in the Broncos' scheme.

This is a team with a lot of big holes all of a sudden and a lot of guys would fit well - Keith Rivers & Malcolm Kelly come immediately to mind.

 

[QuizGuy66]

I literally think I'll poop myself if Dorsey (or Ellis for that matter) slides all the way to my Bengals at #9. I just don't see how it's possible.

-QG

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I literally think I'll poop myself if Dorsey (or Ellis for that matter) slides all the way to my Bengals at #9. I just don't see how it's possible.-QG

You literally think you will or think you literally will?

 

[Workhorse]

OK, put me on record as saying the Pats WON'T go CB at #7. The amount of guaranteed money you shell out at that slot isn't that far off what they would have needed to retain Samuel. Why would the Pats give those guaranteed $$$ to an unproven rookie over a Pro Bowler.

because they have to give that money to the #7 anyway, and they didn't want to do it for 2 players?

You're missing the point: The Patriots have never felt that DB as a position is worth shelling out premium money. They've proven it with Ty Law and Asante Samuel. They've believed in COACHING UP the defensive backfield rather than overpaying for individuals. For me, a big hint was the Pats bringing in Dom Capers this year.

They're going to need some serious coaching up then with Ellis Hobbs, recently acquired Webster, and converted Merriweather. That's a pretty impressive group.

Exactly. Any other year the "the Pats wait on cornerbacks" mantra would be true. But both starters were lost and that changes things dramatically.

First of all, Gay wasn't a starter.Second of all, when Ty Law went on IR in 2004 and left in 2005, they filled the gaps with castoffs and nobodies. Last, it's also a very deep position in this year's draft and the Pats have a 2nd and two 3rd round picks.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

First of all, Gay wasn't a starter.Second of all, when Ty Law went on IR in 2004 and left in 2005, they filled the gaps with castoffs and nobodies. Last, it's also a very deep position in this year's draft and the Pats have a 2nd and two 3rd round picks.

You're right. Now let's move on.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Not many comments on the Saints, Bills, and Broncos picks...

 

[NoFBinLA]

9. Cincinnati Bengals - Glenn Dorsey, DT - L.S.U.

They've tipped their hand quite a bit considering the attempted acquisition of both Shaun Rogers and Dwayne Robertson. Questions that they may switch to the 3-4 were likely answered when they tried to trade Dewayne Robertson, who was NOT a fit for the same scheme for the Jets.

Many will say that Dorsey shouldn't fall this far, and I agree. But like was said before, he has similar injury concerns that Alan Branch had last year and Branch was also talked about as a top 5 pick in the run up to the draft.

Considering I have seen mocks where he is in round 2,...... this ain't far at all. And incredibly plausible sir.good work so far here..... and McFadden isn't the worst Jets pick in the world - just not pressing....

 

[eric rymer]

10. New Orleans Saints - Leodis McKelvin, CB - Troy

Hopefully signing Randall Gay works out better than signing Jason David did. With Mike McKenzie coming back from an ACL tear, and Usama Young not ready for prime time, bringing in two new guys would be a good move.

I know they'd like to improve the interior d-line as well as the safety spot, but I don't think any guy's worth it at this point. Assuming he stays healthy, the addition of Vilma improves what was possibly the worst linebacking corps in the league last year.

Be back in about 15...

ok I'll chime in some more. Great pick for the Saints. McKelvin will help forget the Jason David debacle.

 

[Dope]

Not many comments on the Saints, Bills, and Broncos picks...

They aren't sexy enough. I like the pick by the Broncos. I do think that they need to readdress the offensive line.The other ones I'm not that up on because I honestly don't follow this stuff that closely.I am digging how this has taken 3 hours or so though.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

13. Carolina Panthers- Philip Merling, DE - Clemson

Let's be reasonable, they're going to re-sign Peppers. So the RE spot is taken care of. But on the other side, even though he decided to come back, Rucker doesn't have much left. Plus, they traded Kris Jenkins, leaving a hole at tackle.

Merling can possibly play either DT or DE like Green Bay did with Cullen Jenkins. Peppers/Merling/Johnson could be the Panthers version of Strahan/Osi/Tuck. An offensive tackle gets strong consideration with this pick.

 

[Workhorse]

Not many comments on the Saints, Bills, and Broncos picks...

I think the Broncos need far more help on the defense. I think Keith Rivers makes a TON of sense for the Broncos - They really need a versatile, athletic LB in there.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

12. Denver Broncos- Chris Williams, OT - Vanderbilt

Wow did this team fall apart at the seams quickly or what? Lepsis retires, Walker is cut, Marcus Thomas in trouble (sounds like he may be innocent). OOOF!

I know there's talk Ryan Harris may take Lepsis' spot, but he didn't show enough last year to prove that he's capable. Williams is the big yet nimble tackle that fits perfectly in the Broncos' scheme.

This is a team with a lot of big holes all of a sudden and a lot of guys would fit well - Keith Rivers & Malcolm Kelly come immediately to mind.

I'm not so sure I agree with this one based on what I believe is a relatively deep OT draft. Denver could get a very good athletic OT that fits their system in round 2/3. I wouldn't be surprised to see either Phillips or Reggie Smith/or maybe Connor or Rivers. The LB spot being pretty thin this year and Denver just lost Gold. Rivers would go to ILB and DJ Williams could easily move back outside to his natural position.

 

[Dope]

12. Denver Broncos- Chris Williams, OT - Vanderbilt

Wow did this team fall apart at the seams quickly or what? Lepsis retires, Walker is cut, Marcus Thomas in trouble (sounds like he may be innocent). OOOF!

I know there's talk Ryan Harris may take Lepsis' spot, but he didn't show enough last year to prove that he's capable. Williams is the big yet nimble tackle that fits perfectly in the Broncos' scheme.

This is a team with a lot of big holes all of a sudden and a lot of guys would fit well - Keith Rivers & Malcolm Kelly come immediately to mind.

I'm not so sure I agree with this one based on what I believe is a relatively deep OT draft. Denver could get a very good athletic OT that fits their system in round 2/3. I wouldn't be surprised to see either Phillips or Reggie Smith/or maybe Connor or Rivers. The LB spot being pretty thin this year and Denver just lost Gold. DJ Williams could easily move back outside to his natural position.

Who says they are only taking one?Maybe they are going to stock up and get back to Denver football.

 

[NoFBinLA]

12. Denver Broncos- Chris Williams, OT - Vanderbilt

Wow did this team fall apart at the seams quickly or what? Lepsis retires, Walker is cut, Marcus Thomas in trouble (sounds like he may be innocent). OOOF!

I know there's talk Ryan Harris may take Lepsis' spot, but he didn't show enough last year to prove that he's capable. Williams is the big yet nimble tackle that fits perfectly in the Broncos' scheme.

This is a team with a lot of big holes all of a sudden and a lot of guys would fit well - Keith Rivers & Malcolm Kelly come immediately to mind.

That's pretty high for Williams donchathink?I like the Bills and Saints picks although with Gay signed, they may lean somewhere else - I'm just not sure where...

 

[notdarkyet]

If Gholston falls that far and the Bengals dont make a move I will be disappointed. (Tho not very if Dorsey falls to them) :banana:

 

[Workhorse]

13. Carolina Panthers- Philip Merling, DE - Clemson

Let's be reasonable, they're going to re-sign Peppers. So the RE spot is taken care of. But on the other side, even though he decided to come back, Rucker doesn't have much left. Plus, they traded Kris Jenkins, leaving a hole at tackle.

Merling can possibly play either DT or DE like Green Bay did with Cullen Jenkins. Peppers/Merling/Johnson could be the Panthers version of Strahan/Osi/Tuck. An offensive tackle gets strong consideration with this pick.

I think you've got the position nailed. Just not sure if they would go with Merling over Campbell or Harvey. You're probably right though -- They'll take the most versatile DL player who can play inside or out. Solid pick for the Panthers.

 

[eric rymer]

12. Denver Broncos- Chris Williams, OT - Vanderbilt

Wow did this team fall apart at the seams quickly or what? Lepsis retires, Walker is cut, Marcus Thomas in trouble (sounds like he may be innocent). OOOF!

I know there's talk Ryan Harris may take Lepsis' spot, but he didn't show enough last year to prove that he's capable. Williams is the big yet nimble tackle that fits perfectly in the Broncos' scheme.

This is a team with a lot of big holes all of a sudden and a lot of guys would fit well - Keith Rivers & Malcolm Kelly come immediately to mind.

makes sense. Could also see and LB here as well. Rivers or Connor would be a nice fit.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

12. Denver Broncos- Chris Williams, OT - Vanderbilt

Wow did this team fall apart at the seams quickly or what? Lepsis retires, Walker is cut, Marcus Thomas in trouble (sounds like he may be innocent). OOOF!

I know there's talk Ryan Harris may take Lepsis' spot, but he didn't show enough last year to prove that he's capable. Williams is the big yet nimble tackle that fits perfectly in the Broncos' scheme.

This is a team with a lot of big holes all of a sudden and a lot of guys would fit well - Keith Rivers & Malcolm Kelly come immediately to mind.

I'm not so sure I agree with this one based on what I believe is a relatively deep OT draft. Denver could get a very good athletic OT that fits their system in round 2/3. I wouldn't be surprised to see either Phillips or Reggie Smith/or maybe Connor or Rivers. The LB spot being pretty thin this year and Denver just lost Gold. DJ Williams could easily move back outside to his natural position.

Here's the problem with the tackle spot though... While it is deep, in the words of the immortal David Lee Roth "Everybody wants some" and that pool is going to dry up quickly.I think the Broncos have to make sure they get the guy they want. I like Rivers a lot, and even had him there in early iterations of the mock. Kenny Phillips isn't that much better than guys that can be had in the 3rd and higher.

 

[eric rymer]

13. Carolina Panthers- Philip Merling, DE - Clemson

Let's be reasonable, they're going to re-sign Peppers. So the RE spot is taken care of. But on the other side, even though he decided to come back, Rucker doesn't have much left. Plus, they traded Kris Jenkins, leaving a hole at tackle.

Merling can possibly play either DT or DE like Green Bay did with Cullen Jenkins. Peppers/Merling/Johnson could be the Panthers version of Strahan/Osi/Tuck. An offensive tackle gets strong consideration with this pick.

I think you've got the position nailed. Just not sure if they would go with Merling over Campbell or Harvey. You're probably right though -- They'll take the most versatile DL player who can play inside or out. Solid pick for the Panthers.

I think Campbell would be a good pick here also. his potential is just ridiculous. Some good coaching and he could be a beast.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

12. Denver Broncos- Chris Williams, OT - Vanderbilt

Wow did this team fall apart at the seams quickly or what? Lepsis retires, Walker is cut, Marcus Thomas in trouble (sounds like he may be innocent). OOOF!

I know there's talk Ryan Harris may take Lepsis' spot, but he didn't show enough last year to prove that he's capable. Williams is the big yet nimble tackle that fits perfectly in the Broncos' scheme.

This is a team with a lot of big holes all of a sudden and a lot of guys would fit well - Keith Rivers & Malcolm Kelly come immediately to mind.

That's pretty high for Williams donchathink?

No, not really. Especially considering the Broncos scheme. He was either going here or to the Bears.

I like the Bills and Saints picks although with Gay signed, they may lean somewhere else - I'm just not sure where...

I have to think that Gay is just a band-aid. And even if he isn't, he needs someone to start opposite him until McKenzie recovers from his ACL tear.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

13. Carolina Panthers- Philip Merling, DE - Clemson

Let's be reasonable, they're going to re-sign Peppers. So the RE spot is taken care of. But on the other side, even though he decided to come back, Rucker doesn't have much left. Plus, they traded Kris Jenkins, leaving a hole at tackle.

Merling can possibly play either DT or DE like Green Bay did with Cullen Jenkins. Peppers/Merling/Johnson could be the Panthers version of Strahan/Osi/Tuck. An offensive tackle gets strong consideration with this pick.

I think you've got the position nailed. Just not sure if they would go with Merling over Campbell or Harvey. You're probably right though -- They'll take the most versatile DL player who can play inside or out. Solid pick for the Panthers.

I'm not sure either.

 

[NoFBinLA]

That's pretty high for Williams donchathink?

No, not really. Especially considering the Broncos scheme. He was either going here or to the Bears.

I like the Bills and Saints picks although with Gay signed, they may lean somewhere else - I'm just not sure where...

I have to think that Gay is just a band-aid. And even if he isn't, he needs someone to start opposite him until McKenzie recovers from his ACL tear.

Yeah, you may be right, once the Oline talent starts going, there is a huge drop off. Williams seems early to me, but based on where other OTs will go, probably not early....re: Saints - you are right, Gay is likely a band-aid, and they'll still need some help in the secondary - I mean at this point they need something - anything - to work back there.More bodies the better....

 

[ditka85]

Chris Williams would fit nicely on the Texans too.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

14. Chicago Bears - Jeff Otah, OT - Pittsburgh

What happened here? This offense completely fell apart and I wouldn't even know where to start if I were the GM. Given that there's ZERO depth along an aging offensive line, Otah is a great choice.

Otah didn't look that great at the combine but there was a reason. He was recovering from a high ankle sprain.

Another team that could surprise and take a receiver since, well, they don't appear to have one on the roster. That includes Marty Booker.

 

[NoFBinLA]

14. Chicago Bears - Jeff Otah, OT - Pittsburgh

What happened here? This offense completely fell apart and I wouldn't even know where to start if I were the GM. Given that there's ZERO depth along an aging offensive line, Otah is a great choice.

Otah didn't look that great at the combine but there was a reason. He was recovering from a high ankle sprain.

Another team that could surprise and take a receiver since, well, they don't appear to have one on the roster. That includes Marty Booker.

At this point I think they haveta gotta haveta save that oline.Otherwise they could pick the clone of Joe Montana and he'd still spend more time on his back than throwing. I think WR should be picked later.

 

[ditka85]

14. Chicago Bears - Jeff Otah, OT - Pittsburgh

What happened here? This offense completely fell apart and I wouldn't even know where to start if I were the GM. Given that there's ZERO depth along an aging offensive line, Otah is a great choice.

Otah didn't look that great at the combine but there was a reason. He was recovering from a high ankle sprain.

Another team that could surprise and take a receiver since, well, they don't appear to have one on the roster. That includes Marty Booker.

Certainly think they will go OL here. Hoping they can trade down for more picks. Many holes to fill.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

14. Chicago Bears - Jeff Otah, OT - Pittsburgh

What happened here? This offense completely fell apart and I wouldn't even know where to start if I were the GM. Given that there's ZERO depth along an aging offensive line, Otah is a great choice.

Otah didn't look that great at the combine but there was a reason. He was recovering from a high ankle sprain.

Another team that could surprise and take a receiver since, well, they don't appear to have one on the roster. That includes Marty Booker.

At this point I think they haveta gotta haveta save that oline.Otherwise they could pick the clone of Joe Montana and he'd still spend more time on his back than throwing. I think WR should be picked later.

Sneak peek: They'll get two WRs later in this mock. :X

 

[NYCGangGreen]

10. New Orleans Saints - Leodis McKelvin, CB - Troy

Hopefully signing Randall Gay works out better than signing Jason David did. With Mike McKenzie coming back from an ACL tear, and Usama Young not ready for prime time, bringing in two new guys would be a good move.

I know they'd like to improve the interior d-line as well as the safety spot, but I don't think any guy's worth it at this point. Assuming he stays healthy, the addition of Vilma improves what was possibly the worst linebacking corps in the league last year.

Be back in about 15...

ok I'll chime in some more. Great pick for the Saints. McKelvin will help forget the Jason David debacle.

You couple this pick, with now an actual MLB in Vilma, and the Saints D may be drastically improved from recent years. I still think they need to address the OL in the later rounds, bu ta solid choice for their #1

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Have we reached the point where we can officially say you're reaching for OTs?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Have we reached the point where we can officially say you're reaching for OTs?

Absolutely not.Rang has four ranked in the first with another 1st/2nd borderliner.