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[Bogart]

This has to go down as one of the worst offseasons ever for one of the "big market" teams.

0 for 3 on the big names linked to you, Crawford, Beltre and Soriano. No plan B to speak of. Jeff Mathis and Alberto Callaspo probably won't put many new butts in the seats.

This team has third place in the West written all over it.

 

[Eephus]

Scott Downs down?

 

[RnR]

Bogie, I know you're riding high off that WS apperance, but I'd caution against being too confident. The Angels are a pretty good club. With Haren and Weaver being a legit 1-2 punch and Piniero, Santana, and Kazmir all having 15 win capabilities, their staff is significantly better than yours. You guys may be able to hit your way to another AL West title, but I wouldn't be so sure Anaheim doesn't rise back to the top this season.

 

[Eephus]

I don't think overpaying for Soriano would have helped Anaheim any. The bullpen is an area of depth, if not strength.

They could really use another bat although the return of Kendry Morales will help. Mathis, Bourjos and Callaspo are a very weak bottom of the lineup. Abreu, Rivera and Hunter aren't getting any younger. Their offense is probably closer to Seattle's than Texas'.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

While I expect the Angels to finish third, this team isn't as pathetic as Seattle and I could see Anahiem winning the division.

If the arms pitch to their potential and Morales comes back strong, they'll be contenders.

Pitching in the division:

Oakland

Anahiem

Texas

Seattle

Not to say I think Texas will suck. I simply think the others will be superior.

Hitting in the division:

Texas

Anahiem

Oakland

Seattle

Oakland looks to be much improved but they set a very, very low bar last year and I won't bump them higher until they actually hit.

 

[Bogart]

Bogie, I know you're riding high off that WS apperance, but I'd caution against being too confident. The Angels are a pretty good club. With Haren and Weaver being a legit 1-2 punch and Piniero, Santana, and Kazmir all having 15 win capabilities, their staff is significantly better than yours. You guys may be able to hit your way to another AL West title, but I wouldn't be so sure Anaheim doesn't rise back to the top this season.

I agree with you that, yes, I am still pretty high. And I agree with you that the staff is stout. But that offense is not going to scare anyone, and you have to score runs in this division and this league to win games. I might only take Morales over Moreland if given the choice. I like the Rangers at all other 7 positions and bench. Oakland scares me more than LAAAA right now.That said, watch them win 110 games and I am eating crow come October.

 

[Bogart]

While I expect the Angels to finish third, this team isn't as pathetic as Seattle and I could see Anahiem winning the division. If the arms pitch to their potential and Morales comes back strong, they'll be contenders. Pitching in the division:OaklandAnahiemTexasSeattleNot to say I think Texas will suck. I simply think the others will be superior. Hitting in the division:TexasAnahiemOaklandSeattleOakland looks to be much improved but they set a very, very low bar last year and I won't bump them higher until they actually hit.

 

[Daywalker]

Bogie, I know you're riding high off that WS apperance, but I'd caution against being too confident. The Angels are a pretty good club. With Haren and Weaver being a legit 1-2 punch and Piniero, Santana, and Kazmir all having 15 win capabilities, their staff is significantly better than yours. You guys may be able to hit your way to another AL West title, but I wouldn't be so sure Anaheim doesn't rise back to the top this season.

I agree with you that, yes, I am still pretty high. And I agree with you that the staff is stout. But that offense is not going to scare anyone, and you have to score runs in this division and this league to win games.

I might only take Morales over Moreland if given the choice. I like the Rangers at all other 7 positions and bench. Oakland scares me more than LAAAA right now.

That said, watch them win 110 games and I am eating crow come October.

So generous.

 

[RnR]

Bogie, I know you're riding high off that WS apperance, but I'd caution against being too confident. The Angels are a pretty good club. With Haren and Weaver being a legit 1-2 punch and Piniero, Santana, and Kazmir all having 15 win capabilities, their staff is significantly better than yours. You guys may be able to hit your way to another AL West title, but I wouldn't be so sure Anaheim doesn't rise back to the top this season.

I agree with you that, yes, I am still pretty high. And I agree with you that the staff is stout. But that offense is not going to scare anyone, and you have to score runs in this division and this league to win games.

I might only take Morales over Moreland if given the choice. I like the Rangers at all other 7 positions and bench. Oakland scares me more than LAAAA right now.

That said, watch them win 110 games and I am eating crow come October.

So generous.

Yeah, I thought it was rich that he likes Borbon over Hunter.

 

[Daywalker]

In the last three offseasons the Angels have made competitive offers to CC, Texiera and Crawford. No shame in losing out to Yanks and BoSox.

I do not think they made offers to Holliday, Bay, C. Lee, or R. Soriano. All of which I agree with. Silly to pay a reliever that much unless you have money to burn. The other contracts are way too risky. Bay is already looking like a colossal bust. Apparently the Angels have made a decent offer to A. Beltre. It's not an insane offer and why Boras has not accepeted.

Angels are willing to spend the money for premium players but not just throw it around like the Mets.

 

[Captain Hook]

Apparently the Angels have made a decent offer to A. Beltre. It's not an insane offer and why Boras has not accepeted.

Beltre signed a five year $80 million dollar contract (with an option for a sixth year) with Texas last week.The Angels offer reportedly wasn't close to that

 

[Daywalker]

Apparently the Angels have made a decent offer to A. Beltre. It's not an insane offer and why Boras has not accepeted.

Beltre signed a five year $80 million dollar contract (with an option for a sixth year) with Texas last week.The Angels offer reportedly wasn't close to that

Forgot about that. I read the Angels offer was 5/60. Glad the Angels did not go to 16mill/per for him.

 

[Eephus]

Apparently the Angels have made a decent offer to A. Beltre. It's not an insane offer and why Boras has not accepeted.

Beltre signed a five year $80 million dollar contract (with an option for a sixth year) with Texas last week.The Angels offer reportedly wasn't close to that

Forgot about that. I read the Angels offer was 5/60. Glad the Angels did not go to 16mill/per for him.

Yeah, they're pretty set at 3B with Callaspo and Brandon Wood

 

[Bogart]

Bogie, I know you're riding high off that WS apperance, but I'd caution against being too confident. The Angels are a pretty good club. With Haren and Weaver being a legit 1-2 punch and Piniero, Santana, and Kazmir all having 15 win capabilities, their staff is significantly better than yours. You guys may be able to hit your way to another AL West title, but I wouldn't be so sure Anaheim doesn't rise back to the top this season.

I agree with you that, yes, I am still pretty high. And I agree with you that the staff is stout. But that offense is not going to scare anyone, and you have to score runs in this division and this league to win games.

I might only take Morales over Moreland if given the choice. I like the Rangers at all other 7 positions and bench. Oakland scares me more than LAAAA right now.

That said, watch them win 110 games and I am eating crow come October.

So generous.

Yeah, I thought it was rich that he likes Borbon over Hunter.

OK. I would clearly take Morales over Moreland. And yeah, I forgot about Hunter/Borbon. Had Hamilton in CF on my mind.Take everything I say right now with a grain of salt. I am freebasing Ranger Red right now.

 

[Eephus]

Bogie, I know you're riding high off that WS apperance, but I'd caution against being too confident. The Angels are a pretty good club. With Haren and Weaver being a legit 1-2 punch and Piniero, Santana, and Kazmir all having 15 win capabilities, their staff is significantly better than yours. You guys may be able to hit your way to another AL West title, but I wouldn't be so sure Anaheim doesn't rise back to the top this season.

I agree with you that, yes, I am still pretty high. And I agree with you that the staff is stout. But that offense is not going to scare anyone, and you have to score runs in this division and this league to win games.

I might only take Morales over Moreland if given the choice. I like the Rangers at all other 7 positions and bench. Oakland scares me more than LAAAA right now.

That said, watch them win 110 games and I am eating crow come October.

So generous.

Yeah, I thought it was rich that he likes Borbon over Hunter.

OK. I would clearly take Morales over Moreland. And yeah, I forgot about Hunter/Borbon. Had Hamilton in CF on my mind.Take everything I say right now with a grain of salt. I am freebasing Ranger Red right now.

Bourjos is projected in CF w/ Hunter in RF

 

[RnR]

Bourjos is projected in CF w/ Hunter in RF

That may be the case at this point, but I think the Halos have to be seriously entertaining the idea of bringing Vlad back or maybe even signing Manny. Rivera/Hunter/Abreu would have to be the outfield arrangement with one of those boppers at DH. Could be wrong though.

 

[Eephus]

Bourjos is projected in CF w/ Hunter in RF

That may be the case at this point, but I think the Halos have to be seriously entertaining the idea of bringing Vlad back or maybe even signing Manny. Rivera/Hunter/Abreu would have to be the outfield arrangement with one of those boppers at DH. Could be wrong though.

Napoli is still in the DH mix as well

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Where is Gary DiSarcina when you need him?

 

[Balco]

The Angels have as good a shot as any to win the West.

Weaver and Haren are the best 1-2 in the division. Thin behind them, no question, they need Joel Piñeiro to be healthy, and it looks like Ervin Santana will never replicate the success he had a couple years ago. Scott Kazmir looked horrible.

They get Kendry Morales back which should help the O, but they need one more bat. Wonder if Vlad is coming back.

 

[Premier]

These threads always seemed to get bumped when the team being mocked now is dancing on a field in October.

 

[Bogart]

These threads always seemed to get bumped when the team being mocked now is dancing on a field in October.

Very true and I'm ready for that.Was just going to tie it on to the end of the *** Official Angels Thread ***, but could not find one, so I figure the backlash will be small at best.

 

[Daywalker]

Apparently the Angels have made a decent offer to A. Beltre. It's not an insane offer and why Boras has not accepeted.

Beltre signed a five year $80 million dollar contract (with an option for a sixth year) with Texas last week.The Angels offer reportedly wasn't close to that

Forgot about that. I read the Angels offer was 5/60. Glad the Angels did not go to 16mill/per for him.

Yeah, they're pretty set at 3B with Callaspo and Brandon Wood

Better off then having a contract like Beltre's on the books would could easily be a disaster. You know kind of like the one he signed in the prime of his career with Seattle.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

In the last three offseasons the Angels have made competitive offers to CC, Texiera and Crawford. No shame in losing out to Yanks and BoSox.

I do not think they made offers to Holliday, Bay, C. Lee, or R. Soriano. All of which I agree with. Silly to pay a reliever that much unless you have money to burn. The other contracts are way too risky. Bay is already looking like a colossal bust. Apparently the Angels have made a decent offer to A. Beltre. It's not an insane offer and why Boras has not accepeted.

Angels are willing to spend the money for premium players but not just throw it around like the Mets.

Who cares? Do you get points for an almost signed player? Does the team pick up a few more wins if they come close to bringing in a big name? I give 'em credit for trying but the bottom line is they failed. If they can't keep up with Boston/NY for financial reasons then they need to figure out other ways to make their team better. I don't see how this team has improved this offseason. They may still win the division but nobody can argue they've done anything worth a damn this offseason. Downs? Big whoop.

 

[Eephus]

Apparently the Angels have made a decent offer to A. Beltre. It's not an insane offer and why Boras has not accepeted.

Beltre signed a five year $80 million dollar contract (with an option for a sixth year) with Texas last week.The Angels offer reportedly wasn't close to that

Forgot about that. I read the Angels offer was 5/60. Glad the Angels did not go to 16mill/per for him.

Yeah, they're pretty set at 3B with Callaspo and Brandon Wood

Better off then having a contract like Beltre's on the books would could easily be a disaster. You know kind of like the one he signed in the prime of his career with Seattle.

I think most big market clubs can afford to risk having one bad contract on the books. A couple or three and you're into Cubs territory.

 

[Captain Hook]

I don't see how this team has improved this offseason.

MANNYWOOD coming to AnaheimA motivated and focused Ramirez will be a helluva DH for the Angels

 

[Captain Hook]

I don't see how this team has improved this offseason.

MANNYWOOD coming to AnaheimA motivated and focused Ramirez will be a helluva DH for the Angels

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I don't see how this team has improved this offseason.

MANNYWOOD coming to AnaheimA motivated and focused Ramirez will be a helluva DH for the Angels

He hasn't signed yet, has he?

 

[Balco]

Manny as a DH would be a nice signing . . . when he is interested.