Annonymous exposes Steubenville Rape Case (1 Viewer)

[Henry Ford]

By the way, this is the psot that started this little tangent:

Could the DA asked for them to be tried as adults in Ohio? I am under the impression that there was problems with this case that the DA felt that they could not get a conviction on more serious charges; one of these problems was that the girl's behavior cast some doubt on the boys guilt of more serious charges.

As Ramsey explained, the DA had to prove the same elements of the charge for rape in the juvenile proceeding as he would have had to prove if the boys were charged as adults. The question of guilt, and the evidence necessary to prove the elements, are the same. So, to summarize: The "girl's behavior" in getting drunk did not cast doubt on the boy's guilt of more serious charges. They would have been charged with the same offense as adults. The evidence would have been the same, and her incapacitation and inability to give consent would have been a central element of the prosecution's case in both proceedings.

Yes but what if macaques like to have the #### choked out of them before covering their genitals in Reddi Whip and flinging poo at nearby siamangs? What then Mr. Smart Guy? What then?

Unfortunately, depends on the state. It bothers me that I know this, but there are still jurisdictions in the U.S. where it is not illegal to have sex with non-human animals.

 

[Henry Ford]

Small caveat - with your own or unowned animals. I think it's illegal to have sex with someone else's animal without his/her permission in all states. Trespass to chattels or something.

 

[mr roboto]

If your 16 year old daughter came home one day and told you she got passed-out drunk at a party among friends, would you tell her that was unwise? Assume nothing like rape or even magic-marker face drawing happened. No DUI, no assault. Just passed out from alcohol.

This girl in Ohio bears no blame for what happened to her. It's not even partly her fault. But it doesn't change the fact that if she got blackout drunk, that in and of itself isn't a wise thing to do. Ever. Anywhere. With anyone.

 

[Henry Ford]

If your 16 year old daughter came home one day and told you she got passed-out drunk at a party among friends, would you tell her that was unwise? Assume nothing like rape or even magic-marker face drawing happened. No DUI, no assault. Just passed out from alcohol. This girl in Ohio bears no blame for what happened to her. It's not even partly her fault. But it doesn't change the fact that if she got blackout drunk, that in and of itself isn't a wise thing to do. Ever. Anywhere. With anyone.

Which is not the same thing as her bearing "responsibility" in this case, which is what the original question was which sparked all of this off.

 

[mr roboto]

If your 16 year old daughter came home one day and told you she got passed-out drunk at a party among friends, would you tell her that was unwise? Assume nothing like rape or even magic-marker face drawing happened. No DUI, no assault. Just passed out from alcohol. This girl in Ohio bears no blame for what happened to her. It's not even partly her fault. But it doesn't change the fact that if she got blackout drunk, that in and of itself isn't a wise thing to do. Ever. Anywhere. With anyone.

Which is not the same thing as her bearing "responsibility" in this case, which is what the original question was which sparked all of this off.

Ok. It just seems like some people in here feel that if you would tell your 16 year old daughter not to get blackout drunk because bad things could happen to her, then you are essentially, partially, blaming her for what happens to her.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

If your 16 year old daughter came home one day and told you she got passed-out drunk at a party among friends, would you tell her that was unwise? Assume nothing like rape or even magic-marker face drawing happened. No DUI, no assault. Just passed out from alcohol. This girl in Ohio bears no blame for what happened to her. It's not even partly her fault. But it doesn't change the fact that if she got blackout drunk, that in and of itself isn't a wise thing to do. Ever. Anywhere. With anyone.

Which is not the same thing as her bearing "responsibility" in this case, which is what the original question was which sparked all of this off.

Well I do think you guys are all talking past each other. Pittsdown has clarified that statement several times. He's said that he didn't mean legal responsibility. He's said that he meant "responsibility to herself." I don't think he's really said anything more controversial than that she engaged in behavior that she likely regrets and will try to avoid in the future.

 

[Henry Ford]

If your 16 year old daughter came home one day and told you she got passed-out drunk at a party among friends, would you tell her that was unwise? Assume nothing like rape or even magic-marker face drawing happened. No DUI, no assault. Just passed out from alcohol. This girl in Ohio bears no blame for what happened to her. It's not even partly her fault. But it doesn't change the fact that if she got blackout drunk, that in and of itself isn't a wise thing to do. Ever. Anywhere. With anyone.

Which is not the same thing as her bearing "responsibility" in this case, which is what the original question was which sparked all of this off.

Ok. It just seems like some people in here feel that if you would tell your 16 year old daughter not to get blackout drunk because bad things could happen to her, then you are essentially, partially, blaming her for what happens to her.

People in here are sick of the societal situation we have where we have to tell 16 year old girls not to get drunk because they may get raped. And acknowledging that placing any responsibility for being victimized whatsoever on the victim of a violent crime is by definition "victim blaming."

 

[Chaka]

By the way, this is the psot that started this little tangent:

Could the DA asked for them to be tried as adults in Ohio? I am under the impression that there was problems with this case that the DA felt that they could not get a conviction on more serious charges; one of these problems was that the girl's behavior cast some doubt on the boys guilt of more serious charges.

As Ramsey explained, the DA had to prove the same elements of the charge for rape in the juvenile proceeding as he would have had to prove if the boys were charged as adults. The question of guilt, and the evidence necessary to prove the elements, are the same. So, to summarize: The "girl's behavior" in getting drunk did not cast doubt on the boy's guilt of more serious charges. They would have been charged with the same offense as adults. The evidence would have been the same, and her incapacitation and inability to give consent would have been a central element of the prosecution's case in both proceedings.

Yes but what if macaques like to have the #### choked out of them before covering their genitals in Reddi Whip and flinging poo at nearby siamangs? What then Mr. Smart Guy? What then?

Unfortunately, depends on the state. It bothers me that I know this, but there are still jurisdictions in the U.S. where it is not illegal to have sex with non-human animals.

Can I still inhale the nitrous from the Reddi Whip?

 

[Henry Ford]

If your 16 year old daughter came home one day and told you she got passed-out drunk at a party among friends, would you tell her that was unwise? Assume nothing like rape or even magic-marker face drawing happened. No DUI, no assault. Just passed out from alcohol. This girl in Ohio bears no blame for what happened to her. It's not even partly her fault. But it doesn't change the fact that if she got blackout drunk, that in and of itself isn't a wise thing to do. Ever. Anywhere. With anyone.

Which is not the same thing as her bearing "responsibility" in this case, which is what the original question was which sparked all of this off.

Well I do think you guys are all talking past each other. Pittsdown has clarified that statement several times. He's said that he didn't mean legal responsibility. He's said that he meant "responsibility to herself." I don't think he's really said anything more controversial than that she engaged in behavior that she likely regrets and will try to avoid in the future.

I'm not talking about legal responsibility either. A victim of a rape is never in any way responsible for being raped. At all. Not to herself, not to society at large, not at all. Not in a legal sense, and not in a moral sense.Maybe she acted irresponsibly - but she isn't responsible and bears no blame for what happened to her.

 

[Henry Ford]

By the way, this is the psot that started this little tangent:

Could the DA asked for them to be tried as adults in Ohio? I am under the impression that there was problems with this case that the DA felt that they could not get a conviction on more serious charges; one of these problems was that the girl's behavior cast some doubt on the boys guilt of more serious charges.

As Ramsey explained, the DA had to prove the same elements of the charge for rape in the juvenile proceeding as he would have had to prove if the boys were charged as adults. The question of guilt, and the evidence necessary to prove the elements, are the same. So, to summarize: The "girl's behavior" in getting drunk did not cast doubt on the boy's guilt of more serious charges. They would have been charged with the same offense as adults. The evidence would have been the same, and her incapacitation and inability to give consent would have been a central element of the prosecution's case in both proceedings.

Yes but what if macaques like to have the #### choked out of them before covering their genitals in Reddi Whip and flinging poo at nearby siamangs? What then Mr. Smart Guy? What then?

Unfortunately, depends on the state. It bothers me that I know this, but there are still jurisdictions in the U.S. where it is not illegal to have sex with non-human animals.

Can I still inhale the nitrous from the Reddi Whip?

Interestingly, and I'm really sorry I know this, too, depends on the jurisdiction. Using nitrous oxide to get high from a Reddi Whip can is actually illegal in some states.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

People in here are sick of the societal situation we have where we have to tell 16 year old girls not to get drunk because they may get raped."

I'm not sure how to fix this. Not really concerning the facts of this case, but concerning the facts of other acquaintance rape cases. One reason why women and men of all ages might want to avoid getting blotto in co-ed situations fraught with some sexual potential is that it results in a situation where it's very hard to tell who did what and to draw the line between sex someone regrets and rape. Take the example of the situation where both parties are just sober enough to be responsive, but not really coherent. Who was raped in that situation? Either they were both capable of consenting or neither was.This case is easy, but the poor girl could have just as easily ended up in a situation where the case is hard.

 

[Doug B]

If your 16 year old daughter came home one day and told you she got passed-out drunk at a party among friends, would you tell her that was unwise? ... But it doesn't change the fact that if she got blackout drunk, that in and of itself isn't a wise thing to do. Ever. Anywhere. With anyone.

Honestly ... before the Steubenville case, I'd have thought of the health ramifications first, second, and third before potential rape would even cross my mind. I may have read her the riot act about alcohol poisoning and given her some personal anecdotes (I was once passed out drunk in the back of a care while my "friends" went and burglarized a house).I guess add "friend" rape to the list now. But only just now, now that Steubenville happened. Definitely not the first case of blackout "friend" rape ... but the one that put that specific crime in the national conciousness.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Maybe she acted irresponsibly - but she isn't responsible and bears no blame for what happened to her.

I'm sure not sure I understand the distinction, but if pittsdown amends his response to say that she acted irresponsibly, can we move on to talking about Koya's kind of weird expertise in kink?

 

[simey]

Unfortunately, depends on the state. It bothers me that I know this, but there are still jurisdictions in the U.S. where it is not illegal to have sex with non-human animals.

Here in NC, it is a Crime Against Nature to be caught having oral or anal sex with people (or animals) in a public area (that includes a secluded area in the woods, etc.). It's a felony. When I was on the Grand Jury for a year in 2008, we had a few indictments of CAN, and all them were associated with prostitution. Usually it was a prostitute blowing some john in a car.

 

[Henry Ford]

Maybe she acted irresponsibly - but she isn't responsible and bears no blame for what happened to her.

I'm sure not sure I understand the distinction, but if pittsdown amends his response to say that she acted irresponsibly, can we move on to talking about Koya's kind of weird expertise in kink?

You can talk about whatever you want, even if pitts doesn't retract anything.

 

[Chaka]

By the way, this is the psot that started this little tangent:

Could the DA asked for them to be tried as adults in Ohio? I am under the impression that there was problems with this case that the DA felt that they could not get a conviction on more serious charges; one of these problems was that the girl's behavior cast some doubt on the boys guilt of more serious charges.

As Ramsey explained, the DA had to prove the same elements of the charge for rape in the juvenile proceeding as he would have had to prove if the boys were charged as adults. The question of guilt, and the evidence necessary to prove the elements, are the same. So, to summarize: The "girl's behavior" in getting drunk did not cast doubt on the boy's guilt of more serious charges. They would have been charged with the same offense as adults. The evidence would have been the same, and her incapacitation and inability to give consent would have been a central element of the prosecution's case in both proceedings.

Yes but what if macaques like to have the #### choked out of them before covering their genitals in Reddi Whip and flinging poo at nearby siamangs? What then Mr. Smart Guy? What then?

Unfortunately, depends on the state. It bothers me that I know this, but there are still jurisdictions in the U.S. where it is not illegal to have sex with non-human animals.

Can I still inhale the nitrous from the Reddi Whip?

Interestingly, and I'm really sorry I know this, too, depends on the jurisdiction. Using nitrous oxide to get high from a Reddi Whip can is actually illegal in some states.

Stupid nanny state.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Holy semantics, Batman.

 

[General Malaise]

####### animals, it's happened again, this time in California. For the life of me, I cannot understand how these barbaric, heartless, sinister, debase young men are being created. Not ONE of the ####### little cowards has enough compassion to stand up and do something to help? And then, to continue to bully and attack their victim over social media, sharing the photos of their vile acts of rape and assault? I don't get it....I just can't understand these little monsters. What happens to them in life?

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SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) — Eight days after allegedly being sexually battered while passed out at a party, and then humiliated by online photos of the assault, 15-year-old Audrie Pott posted on Facebook that her life was ruined, "worst day ever," and hanged herself.

For the next eight months, her family struggled to figure out what happened to their soccer loving, artistic, horse crazy daughter, whose gentle smile, long dark hair and shining eyes did not bely a struggling soul.

And then on Thursday, seven months after the tragedy, a Northern California sheriff's office arrested three 16-year-old boys on charges of sexual battery.

"The family has been trying to understand why their loving daughter would have taken her life at such a young age and to make sure that those responsible would be held accountable," said family attorney Robert Allard.

"After an extensive investigation that we have conducted on behalf of the family, there is no doubt in our minds that the victim, then only 15 years old, was savagely assaulted by her fellow high school students while she lay on a bed completely unconscious."

Allard said students used cell phones to share photos of the attack, and that the images went viral.

Santa Clara County Sheriff's Lt. Jose Cardoza said it arrested two of the teens at Saratoga High School and the third, a former Saratoga High student, at Christopher High School in Gilroy on Thursday. The names of the suspects were not released because they are minors.

Cardoza said the suspects were booked into juvenile hall and face two felonies and one misdemeanor each, all related to sexual battery that allegedly occurred at a Saratoga house party.

The lieutenant said the arrests were the result of information gathered by his agency's Saratoga High School resource officers. He said the investigation is ongoing, and Los Gatos police also continue looking into the girl's September suicide.

The Associated Press does not, as a rule, identify victims of sexual assault. But in this case, Pott's family wanted her name and case known, Allard said. The family also provided a photo to the AP.

The girl's family members did not comment and have requested privacy until a planned news conference Tuesday. Her father and step-mother Lawrence and Lisa Pott, along with her mother Sheila Pott, have started the Audrie Pott Foundation (audriepottfoundation.com) to provide music and art scholarships and offer youth counseling and support.

The foundation website alludes to the teen's struggles, but until now neither law enforcement, school officials nor family have discussed the sexual battery.

"She was compassionate about life, her friends, her family, and would never do anything to harm anyone," the site says. "She was in the process of developing the ability to cope with the cruelty of this world but had not quite figured it all out.

"Ultimately, she had not yet acquired the antibiotics to deal with the challenges present for teens in today's society."

On the day Pott died, Saratoga High School principal Paul Robinson announced her death, stunning classmates. Two days later other students and staff wore her favorite color, teal, in her honor.

Robinson wasn't immediately available for comment Thursday.

The Pott family is not alone.

In Canada on Thursday, authorities said they are looking further into the case of a teenage girl who hanged herself Sunday after an alleged rape and months of bullying. A photo said to be of the 2011 assault on 17-year-old Rehtaeh Parsons was shared online.

No charges initially were filed against four teenage boys being investigated. But after an outcry, Nova Scotia's justice minister appointed four government departments to look into Parsons' case.

 

[T Bell]

####### animals, it's happened again, this time in California. For the life of me, I cannot understand how these barbaric, heartless, sinister, debase young men are being created. Not ONE of the ####### little cowards has enough compassion to stand up and do something to help? And then, to continue to bully and attack their victim over social media, sharing the photos of their vile acts of rape and assault? I don't get it....I just can't understand these little monsters. What happens to them in life?

My Link

SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) — Eight days after allegedly being sexually battered while passed out at a party, and then humiliated by online photos of the assault, 15-year-old Audrie Pott posted on Facebook that her life was ruined, "worst day ever," and hanged herself.

For the next eight months, her family struggled to figure out what happened to their soccer loving, artistic, horse crazy daughter, whose gentle smile, long dark hair and shining eyes did not bely a struggling soul.

And then on Thursday, seven months after the tragedy, a Northern California sheriff's office arrested three 16-year-old boys on charges of sexual battery.

"The family has been trying to understand why their loving daughter would have taken her life at such a young age and to make sure that those responsible would be held accountable," said family attorney Robert Allard.

"After an extensive investigation that we have conducted on behalf of the family, there is no doubt in our minds that the victim, then only 15 years old, was savagely assaulted by her fellow high school students while she lay on a bed completely unconscious."

Allard said students used cell phones to share photos of the attack, and that the images went viral.

Santa Clara County Sheriff's Lt. Jose Cardoza said it arrested two of the teens at Saratoga High School and the third, a former Saratoga High student, at Christopher High School in Gilroy on Thursday. The names of the suspects were not released because they are minors.

Cardoza said the suspects were booked into juvenile hall and face two felonies and one misdemeanor each, all related to sexual battery that allegedly occurred at a Saratoga house party.

The lieutenant said the arrests were the result of information gathered by his agency's Saratoga High School resource officers. He said the investigation is ongoing, and Los Gatos police also continue looking into the girl's September suicide.

The Associated Press does not, as a rule, identify victims of sexual assault. But in this case, Pott's family wanted her name and case known, Allard said. The family also provided a photo to the AP.

The girl's family members did not comment and have requested privacy until a planned news conference Tuesday. Her father and step-mother Lawrence and Lisa Pott, along with her mother Sheila Pott, have started the Audrie Pott Foundation (audriepottfoundation.com) to provide music and art scholarships and offer youth counseling and support.

The foundation website alludes to the teen's struggles, but until now neither law enforcement, school officials nor family have discussed the sexual battery.

"She was compassionate about life, her friends, her family, and would never do anything to harm anyone," the site says. "She was in the process of developing the ability to cope with the cruelty of this world but had not quite figured it all out.

"Ultimately, she had not yet acquired the antibiotics to deal with the challenges present for teens in today's society."

On the day Pott died, Saratoga High School principal Paul Robinson announced her death, stunning classmates. Two days later other students and staff wore her favorite color, teal, in her honor.

Robinson wasn't immediately available for comment Thursday.

The Pott family is not alone.

In Canada on Thursday, authorities said they are looking further into the case of a teenage girl who hanged herself Sunday after an alleged rape and months of bullying. A photo said to be of the 2011 assault on 17-year-old Rehtaeh Parsons was shared online.

No charges initially were filed against four teenage boys being investigated. But after an outcry, Nova Scotia's justice minister appointed four government departments to look into Parsons' case.

I just saw that too. Awful. (Oh, and thanks posty.)

 

[LarryAllen'sJockstrap]

####### animals, it's happened again, this time in California. For the life of me, I cannot understand how these barbaric, heartless, sinister, debase young men are being created. Not ONE of the ####### little cowards has enough compassion to stand up and do something to help? And then, to continue to bully and attack their victim over social media, sharing the photos of their vile acts of rape and assault? I don't get it....I just can't understand these little monsters. What happens to them in life?

My Link

SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) Eight days after allegedly being sexually battered while passed out at a party, and then humiliated by online photos of the assault, 15-year-old Audrie Pott posted on Facebook that her life was ruined, "worst day ever," and hanged herself.

For the next eight months, her family struggled to figure out what happened to their soccer loving, artistic, horse crazy daughter, whose gentle smile, long dark hair and shining eyes did not bely a struggling soul.

And then on Thursday, seven months after the tragedy, a Northern California sheriff's office arrested three 16-year-old boys on charges of sexual battery.

"The family has been trying to understand why their loving daughter would have taken her life at such a young age and to make sure that those responsible would be held accountable," said family attorney Robert Allard.

"After an extensive investigation that we have conducted on behalf of the family, there is no doubt in our minds that the victim, then only 15 years old, was savagely assaulted by her fellow high school students while she lay on a bed completely unconscious."

Allard said students used cell phones to share photos of the attack, and that the images went viral.



Santa Clara County Sheriff's Lt. Jose Cardoza said it arrested two of the teens at Saratoga High School and the third, a former Saratoga High student, at Christopher High School in Gilroy on Thursday. The names of the suspects were not released because they are minors.

Cardoza said the suspects were booked into juvenile hall and face two felonies and one misdemeanor each, all related to sexual battery that allegedly occurred at a Saratoga house party.

The lieutenant said the arrests were the result of information gathered by his agency's Saratoga High School resource officers. He said the investigation is ongoing, and Los Gatos police also continue looking into the girl's September suicide.

The Associated Press does not, as a rule, identify victims of sexual assault. But in this case, Pott's family wanted her name and case known, Allard said. The family also provided a photo to the AP.

The girl's family members did not comment and have requested privacy until a planned news conference Tuesday. Her father and step-mother Lawrence and Lisa Pott, along with her mother Sheila Pott, have started the Audrie Pott Foundation (audriepottfoundation.com) to provide music and art scholarships and offer youth counseling and support.

The foundation website alludes to the teen's struggles, but until now neither law enforcement, school officials nor family have discussed the sexual battery.

"She was compassionate about life, her friends, her family, and would never do anything to harm anyone," the site says. "She was in the process of developing the ability to cope with the cruelty of this world but had not quite figured it all out.

"Ultimately, she had not yet acquired the antibiotics to deal with the challenges present for teens in today's society."

On the day Pott died, Saratoga High School principal Paul Robinson announced her death, stunning classmates. Two days later other students and staff wore her favorite color, teal, in her honor.

Robinson wasn't immediately available for comment Thursday.

The Pott family is not alone.

In Canada on Thursday, authorities said they are looking further into the case of a teenage girl who hanged herself Sunday after an alleged rape and months of bullying. A photo said to be of the 2011 assault on 17-year-old Rehtaeh Parsons was shared online.

No charges initially were filed against four teenage boys being investigated. But after an outcry, Nova Scotia's justice minister appointed four government departments to look into Parsons' case.

At least now these morons are sealing their own graves by taking photos/videos and sharing them.It's sad, but this stuff has always happened. It's just now the bullying is done through social media instead of word of mouth.

These kids will pay. Their normal HS student lives as they know them are over. Welcome to the criminal system ####heads.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

####### animals, it's happened again, this time in California. For the life of me, I cannot understand how these barbaric, heartless, sinister, debase young men are being created. Not ONE of the ####### little cowards has enough compassion to stand up and do something to help? And then, to continue to bully and attack their victim over social media, sharing the photos of their vile acts of rape and assault? I don't get it....I just can't understand these little monsters. What happens to them in life?

I was Sheriff of this county when I was 25 years old. Hard to believe. My grandfather was a lawman, father too. Me and him was sheriffs at the same time, him up in Plano and me out here. I think he's pretty proud of that. I know I was. Some of the old time Sheriffs never even wore a gun. A lotta folks find that hard to believe. Jim Scarborough'd never carry one - that's the younger Jim. Gaston Borkins wouldn't wear one up in Comanche County. I always liked to hear about the old-timers. Never missed a chance to do so. You can't help but compare yourself against the old-timers. Can't help but wonder how they'd have operated these times. There was this boy I sent to the 'lectric chair at Huntsville here awhile back. My arrest and my testimony. He killt a 14 year-old girl. Papers said it was a crime of passion but he told me there wasn't any passion to it. Told me that he'd been plannin' to kill somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said that if they turned him out, he'd do it again. Said he knew he was going to hell: 'Be there in about fifteen minutes.' I don't know what to make of that. I surely don't.

The crime you see now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willin' to die to even do this job. But, I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet somethin' I don't understand. A man would have to put his soul at hazard. He'd have to say: 'O.K., I'll be part of this world.'

 

[Rayderr]

####### animals, it's happened again, this time in California. For the life of me, I cannot understand how these barbaric, heartless, sinister, debase young men are being created. Not ONE of the ####### little cowards has enough compassion to stand up and do something to help? And then, to continue to bully and attack their victim over social media, sharing the photos of their vile acts of rape and assault? I don't get it....I just can't understand these little monsters. What happens to them in life?

I was Sheriff of this county when I was 25 years old. Hard to believe. My grandfather was a lawman, father too. Me and him was sheriffs at the same time, him up in Plano and me out here. I think he's pretty proud of that. I know I was. Some of the old time Sheriffs never even wore a gun. A lotta folks find that hard to believe. Jim Scarborough'd never carry one - that's the younger Jim. Gaston Borkins wouldn't wear one up in Comanche County. I always liked to hear about the old-timers. Never missed a chance to do so. You can't help but compare yourself against the old-timers. Can't help but wonder how they'd have operated these times. There was this boy I sent to the 'lectric chair at Huntsville here awhile back. My arrest and my testimony. He killt a 14 year-old girl. Papers said it was a crime of passion but he told me there wasn't any passion to it. Told me that he'd been plannin' to kill somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said that if they turned him out, he'd do it again. Said he knew he was going to hell: 'Be there in about fifteen minutes.' I don't know what to make of that. I surely don't.

The crime you see now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willin' to die to even do this job. But, I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet somethin' I don't understand. A man would have to put his soul at hazard. He'd have to say: 'O.K., I'll be part of this world.'

Clearly what this thread needed was a monologue from No Country For Old Men.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

####### animals, it's happened again, this time in California. For the life of me, I cannot understand how these barbaric, heartless, sinister, debase young men are being created. Not ONE of the ####### little cowards has enough compassion to stand up and do something to help? And then, to continue to bully and attack their victim over social media, sharing the photos of their vile acts of rape and assault? I don't get it....I just can't understand these little monsters. What happens to them in life?

I was Sheriff of this county when I was 25 years old. Hard to believe. My grandfather was a lawman, father too. Me and him was sheriffs at the same time, him up in Plano and me out here. I think he's pretty proud of that. I know I was. Some of the old time Sheriffs never even wore a gun. A lotta folks find that hard to believe. Jim Scarborough'd never carry one - that's the younger Jim. Gaston Borkins wouldn't wear one up in Comanche County. I always liked to hear about the old-timers. Never missed a chance to do so. You can't help but compare yourself against the old-timers. Can't help but wonder how they'd have operated these times. There was this boy I sent to the 'lectric chair at Huntsville here awhile back. My arrest and my testimony. He killt a 14 year-old girl. Papers said it was a crime of passion but he told me there wasn't any passion to it. Told me that he'd been plannin' to kill somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said that if they turned him out, he'd do it again. Said he knew he was going to hell: 'Be there in about fifteen minutes.' I don't know what to make of that. I surely don't.

The crime you see now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willin' to die to even do this job. But, I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet somethin' I don't understand. A man would have to put his soul at hazard. He'd have to say: 'O.K., I'll be part of this world.'

Clearly what this thread needed was a monologue from No Country For Old Men.

When GoM said . "I just can't understand these little monsters. " I felt it fitting. If you don't get it - don't worry.

 

[NCCommish]

####### animals, it's happened again, this time in California. For the life of me, I cannot understand how these barbaric, heartless, sinister, debase young men are being created. Not ONE of the ####### little cowards has enough compassion to stand up and do something to help? And then, to continue to bully and attack their victim over social media, sharing the photos of their vile acts of rape and assault? I don't get it....I just can't understand these little monsters. What happens to them in life?

I was Sheriff of this county when I was 25 years old. Hard to believe. My grandfather was a lawman, father too. Me and him was sheriffs at the same time, him up in Plano and me out here. I think he's pretty proud of that. I know I was. Some of the old time Sheriffs never even wore a gun. A lotta folks find that hard to believe. Jim Scarborough'd never carry one - that's the younger Jim. Gaston Borkins wouldn't wear one up in Comanche County. I always liked to hear about the old-timers. Never missed a chance to do so. You can't help but compare yourself against the old-timers. Can't help but wonder how they'd have operated these times. There was this boy I sent to the 'lectric chair at Huntsville here awhile back. My arrest and my testimony. He killt a 14 year-old girl. Papers said it was a crime of passion but he told me there wasn't any passion to it. Told me that he'd been plannin' to kill somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said that if they turned him out, he'd do it again. Said he knew he was going to hell: 'Be there in about fifteen minutes.' I don't know what to make of that. I surely don't.

The crime you see now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willin' to die to even do this job. But, I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet somethin' I don't understand. A man would have to put his soul at hazard. He'd have to say: 'O.K., I'll be part of this world.'

Clearly what this thread needed was a monologue from No Country For Old Men.

A nice respite from the parade of rapes leading to suicide after parents and communities decide the little slut had it coming so why bother to do anything about it.

 

[kface]

This whole story just happened to a girl in nova scotia as well...no charges laid. She killed herself.

 

[Nikki2200]

A nice respite from the parade of rapes leading to suicide after parents and communities decide the little slut had it coming so why bother to do anything about it.

That's what is a little bit weird about this. Why did it take 7 months for the cops to arrest the rapists? This all happened in September and the pictures were out there on the internet which is what led to the suicide. What was the hold up?

 

[kface]

A nice respite from the parade of rapes leading to suicide after parents and communities decide the little slut had it coming so why bother to do anything about it.

That's what is a little bit weird about this. Why did it take 7 months for the cops to arrest the rapists? This all happened in September and the pictures were out there on the internet which is what led to the suicide. What was the hold up?

Seems to be a theme...in the Nova Scotia case they let the boys go because of lack of evidence even though it was all over the internet. Now that the pressure is cranked up...seems they are making a case.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

####### animals, it's happened again, this time in California. For the life of me, I cannot understand how these barbaric, heartless, sinister, debase young men are being created. Not ONE of the ####### little cowards has enough compassion to stand up and do something to help? And then, to continue to bully and attack their victim over social media, sharing the photos of their vile acts of rape and assault? I don't get it....I just can't understand these little monsters. What happens to them in life?

I was Sheriff of this county when I was 25 years old. Hard to believe. My grandfather was a lawman, father too. Me and him was sheriffs at the same time, him up in Plano and me out here. I think he's pretty proud of that. I know I was. Some of the old time Sheriffs never even wore a gun. A lotta folks find that hard to believe. Jim Scarborough'd never carry one - that's the younger Jim. Gaston Borkins wouldn't wear one up in Comanche County. I always liked to hear about the old-timers. Never missed a chance to do so. You can't help but compare yourself against the old-timers. Can't help but wonder how they'd have operated these times. There was this boy I sent to the 'lectric chair at Huntsville here awhile back. My arrest and my testimony. He killt a 14 year-old girl. Papers said it was a crime of passion but he told me there wasn't any passion to it. Told me that he'd been plannin' to kill somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said that if they turned him out, he'd do it again. Said he knew he was going to hell: 'Be there in about fifteen minutes.' I don't know what to make of that. I surely don't.

The crime you see now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willin' to die to even do this job. But, I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet somethin' I don't understand. A man would have to put his soul at hazard. He'd have to say: 'O.K., I'll be part of this world.'

Clearly what this thread needed was a monologue from No Country For Old Men.

A nice respite from the parade of rapes leading to suicide after parents and communities decide the little slut had it coming so why bother to do anything about it.

OK, looks like I really need to draw this out..

This new type of criminal this beast as it were has no conscious, is a sociopath who lacks any morals or values, caring about nothing but there own pleasure - they are the wolves clawing at the door in the dark. Want to understand them? Want to see their viewpoint?

I do not think they care about anything but chaos and get enjoyment out of others people pain.

Now read for the trick question. What type of society produces that individual?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

A nice respite from the parade of rapes leading to suicide after parents and communities decide the little slut had it coming so why bother to do anything about it.

That's what is a little bit weird about this. Why did it take 7 months for the cops to arrest the rapists? This all happened in September and the pictures were out there on the internet which is what led to the suicide. What was the hold up?

Seems to be a theme...in the Nova Scotia case they let the boys go because of lack of evidence even though it was all over the internet. Now that the pressure is cranked up...seems they are making a case.

The pattern here is extremely disturbing. If there's good evidence that a crime took place, then prosecution should have begun months ago. If there wasn't enough evidence to proceed a few months ago, then a suicide shouldn't change that calculation. I don't see any way to attribute good decision-making to the people who were supposed to be overseeing these two cases.

 

[kface]

####### animals, it's happened again, this time in California. For the life of me, I cannot understand how these barbaric, heartless, sinister, debase young men are being created. Not ONE of the ####### little cowards has enough compassion to stand up and do something to help? And then, to continue to bully and attack their victim over social media, sharing the photos of their vile acts of rape and assault? I don't get it....I just can't understand these little monsters. What happens to them in life?

I was Sheriff of this county when I was 25 years old. Hard to believe. My grandfather was a lawman, father too. Me and him was sheriffs at the same time, him up in Plano and me out here. I think he's pretty proud of that. I know I was. Some of the old time Sheriffs never even wore a gun. A lotta folks find that hard to believe. Jim Scarborough'd never carry one - that's the younger Jim. Gaston Borkins wouldn't wear one up in Comanche County. I always liked to hear about the old-timers. Never missed a chance to do so. You can't help but compare yourself against the old-timers. Can't help but wonder how they'd have operated these times. There was this boy I sent to the 'lectric chair at Huntsville here awhile back. My arrest and my testimony. He killt a 14 year-old girl. Papers said it was a crime of passion but he told me there wasn't any passion to it. Told me that he'd been plannin' to kill somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said that if they turned him out, he'd do it again. Said he knew he was going to hell: 'Be there in about fifteen minutes.' I don't know what to make of that. I surely don't.

The crime you see now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willin' to die to even do this job. But, I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet somethin' I don't understand. A man would have to put his soul at hazard. He'd have to say: 'O.K., I'll be part of this world.'

Clearly what this thread needed was a monologue from No Country For Old Men.

A nice respite from the parade of rapes leading to suicide after parents and communities decide the little slut had it coming so why bother to do anything about it.

OK, looks like I really need to draw this out..

This new type of criminal this beast as it were has no conscious, is a sociopath who lacks any morals or values, caring about nothing but there own pleasure - they are the wolves clawing at the door in the dark. Want to understand them? Want to see their viewpoint?

I do not think they care about anything but chaos and get enjoyment out of others people pain.

Now read for the trick question. What type of society produces that individual?

 

[T Bell]

A nice respite from the parade of rapes leading to suicide after parents and communities decide the little slut had it coming so why bother to do anything about it.

That's what is a little bit weird about this. Why did it take 7 months for the cops to arrest the rapists? This all happened in September and the pictures were out there on the internet which is what led to the suicide. What was the hold up?

Seems to be a theme...in the Nova Scotia case they let the boys go because of lack of evidence even though it was all over the internet. Now that the pressure is cranked up...seems they are making a case.

The pattern here is extremely disturbing. If there's good evidence that a crime took place, then prosecution should have begun months ago. If there wasn't enough evidence to proceed a few months ago, then a suicide shouldn't change that calculation. I don't see any way to attribute good decision-making to the people who were supposed to be overseeing these two cases.

I think part of it is that you're dealing with new forensics, namely linking YouTube accounts to individuals, that cops and law enforcement haven't gotten familiar and comfortable with yet, particularly in smaller communities. I know, it sounds silly, but this is the way that sort of process happens over time, which is to say by crisis.

 

[quickhands]

####### animals, it's happened again, this time in California. For the life of me, I cannot understand how these barbaric, heartless, sinister, debase young men are being created. Not ONE of the ####### little cowards has enough compassion to stand up and do something to help? And then, to continue to bully and attack their victim over social media, sharing the photos of their vile acts of rape and assault? I don't get it....I just can't understand these little monsters. What happens to them in life?

I was Sheriff of this county when I was 25 years old. Hard to believe. My grandfather was a lawman, father too. Me and him was sheriffs at the same time, him up in Plano and me out here. I think he's pretty proud of that. I know I was. Some of the old time Sheriffs never even wore a gun. A lotta folks find that hard to believe. Jim Scarborough'd never carry one - that's the younger Jim. Gaston Borkins wouldn't wear one up in Comanche County. I always liked to hear about the old-timers. Never missed a chance to do so. You can't help but compare yourself against the old-timers. Can't help but wonder how they'd have operated these times. There was this boy I sent to the 'lectric chair at Huntsville here awhile back. My arrest and my testimony. He killt a 14 year-old girl. Papers said it was a crime of passion but he told me there wasn't any passion to it. Told me that he'd been plannin' to kill somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said that if they turned him out, he'd do it again. Said he knew he was going to hell: 'Be there in about fifteen minutes.' I don't know what to make of that. I surely don't.

The crime you see now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willin' to die to even do this job. But, I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet somethin' I don't understand. A man would have to put his soul at hazard. He'd have to say: 'O.K., I'll be part of this world.'

Clearly what this thread needed was a monologue from No Country For Old Men.

A nice respite from the parade of rapes leading to suicide after parents and communities decide the little slut had it coming so why bother to do anything about it.

OK, looks like I really need to draw this out..

This new type of criminal this beast as it were has no conscious, is a sociopath who lacks any morals or values, caring about nothing but there own pleasure - they are the wolves clawing at the door in the dark. Want to understand them? Want to see their viewpoint?

I do not think they care about anything but chaos and get enjoyment out of others people pain.

Now read for the trick question. What type of society produces that individual?

The kind that drives god out of the class room.

 

[Gr00vus]

####### animals, it's happened again, this time in California. For the life of me, I cannot understand how these barbaric, heartless, sinister, debase young men are being created. Not ONE of the ####### little cowards has enough compassion to stand up and do something to help? And then, to continue to bully and attack their victim over social media, sharing the photos of their vile acts of rape and assault? I don't get it....I just can't understand these little monsters. What happens to them in life?

I was Sheriff of this county when I was 25 years old. Hard to believe. My grandfather was a lawman, father too. Me and him was sheriffs at the same time, him up in Plano and me out here. I think he's pretty proud of that. I know I was. Some of the old time Sheriffs never even wore a gun. A lotta folks find that hard to believe. Jim Scarborough'd never carry one - that's the younger Jim. Gaston Borkins wouldn't wear one up in Comanche County. I always liked to hear about the old-timers. Never missed a chance to do so. You can't help but compare yourself against the old-timers. Can't help but wonder how they'd have operated these times. There was this boy I sent to the 'lectric chair at Huntsville here awhile back. My arrest and my testimony. He killt a 14 year-old girl. Papers said it was a crime of passion but he told me there wasn't any passion to it. Told me that he'd been plannin' to kill somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said that if they turned him out, he'd do it again. Said he knew he was going to hell: 'Be there in about fifteen minutes.' I don't know what to make of that. I surely don't.

The crime you see now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willin' to die to even do this job. But, I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet somethin' I don't understand. A man would have to put his soul at hazard. He'd have to say: 'O.K., I'll be part of this world.'

Clearly what this thread needed was a monologue from No Country For Old Men.

A nice respite from the parade of rapes leading to suicide after parents and communities decide the little slut had it coming so why bother to do anything about it.

OK, looks like I really need to draw this out..

This new type of criminal this beast as it were has no conscious, is a sociopath who lacks any morals or values, caring about nothing but there own pleasure - they are the wolves clawing at the door in the dark. Want to understand them? Want to see their viewpoint?

I do not think they care about anything but chaos and get enjoyment out of others people pain.

Now read for the trick question. What type of society produces that individual?

The kind that drives god out of the class room.

Which one? Isis, Odin, Poseidon, Kali, Unelanuki, Ometecutli, Raijin, Xuan Wu, Nuakea, Eshu...

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Another crime:

Victim recalls assailant’s breasts, little else

A woman intentionally rammed her car into a man’s car while arguing over a parking spot in the Haight, but the victim was so focused on her low-cut dress that all he could describe to officers afterward were her breasts, San Francisco police said Thursday.

The woman drove away after hitting the man’s car at Haight and Cole streets at 5 p.m. Tuesday, said Park Station Officer Al Wu. The man couldn’t tell officers what kind of car it was, let alone supply a license-plate number, but he “was able to give a detailed description of the suspect’s cleavage,” police said.

No one has been arrested.

 

[quickhands]

####### animals, it's happened again, this time in California. For the life of me, I cannot understand how these barbaric, heartless, sinister, debase young men are being created. Not ONE of the ####### little cowards has enough compassion to stand up and do something to help? And then, to continue to bully and attack their victim over social media, sharing the photos of their vile acts of rape and assault? I don't get it....I just can't understand these little monsters. What happens to them in life?

I was Sheriff of this county when I was 25 years old. Hard to believe. My grandfather was a lawman, father too. Me and him was sheriffs at the same time, him up in Plano and me out here. I think he's pretty proud of that. I know I was. Some of the old time Sheriffs never even wore a gun. A lotta folks find that hard to believe. Jim Scarborough'd never carry one - that's the younger Jim. Gaston Borkins wouldn't wear one up in Comanche County. I always liked to hear about the old-timers. Never missed a chance to do so. You can't help but compare yourself against the old-timers. Can't help but wonder how they'd have operated these times. There was this boy I sent to the 'lectric chair at Huntsville here awhile back. My arrest and my testimony. He killt a 14 year-old girl. Papers said it was a crime of passion but he told me there wasn't any passion to it. Told me that he'd been plannin' to kill somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said that if they turned him out, he'd do it again. Said he knew he was going to hell: 'Be there in about fifteen minutes.' I don't know what to make of that. I surely don't.

The crime you see now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willin' to die to even do this job. But, I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet somethin' I don't understand. A man would have to put his soul at hazard. He'd have to say: 'O.K., I'll be part of this world.'

Clearly what this thread needed was a monologue from No Country For Old Men.

A nice respite from the parade of rapes leading to suicide after parents and communities decide the little slut had it coming so why bother to do anything about it.

OK, looks like I really need to draw this out..

This new type of criminal this beast as it were has no conscious, is a sociopath who lacks any morals or values, caring about nothing but there own pleasure - they are the wolves clawing at the door in the dark. Want to understand them? Want to see their viewpoint?

I do not think they care about anything but chaos and get enjoyment out of others people pain.

Now read for the trick question. What type of society produces that individual?

The kind that drives god out of the class room.

Which one? Isis, Odin, Poseidon, Kali, Unelanuki, Ometecutli, Raijin, Xuan Wu, Nuakea, Eshu...

Id prefer Cthullu. But I guess you ca pick whoever. Something is better than nuthing

 

[T Bell]

Another crime:

Victim recalls assailant’s breasts, little else

A woman intentionally rammed her car into a man’s car while arguing over a parking spot in the Haight, but the victim was so focused on her low-cut dress that all he could describe to officers afterward were her breasts, San Francisco police said Thursday.

The woman drove away after hitting the man’s car at Haight and Cole streets at 5 p.m. Tuesday, said Park Station Officer Al Wu. The man couldn’t tell officers what kind of car it was, let alone supply a license-plate number, but he “was able to give a detailed description of the suspect’s cleavage,” police said.

No one has been arrested.

My link

 

[roadkill1292]

####### animals, it's happened again, this time in California. For the life of me, I cannot understand how these barbaric, heartless, sinister, debase young men are being created. Not ONE of the ####### little cowards has enough compassion to stand up and do something to help? And then, to continue to bully and attack their victim over social media, sharing the photos of their vile acts of rape and assault? I don't get it....I just can't understand these little monsters. What happens to them in life?

I was Sheriff of this county when I was 25 years old. Hard to believe. My grandfather was a lawman, father too. Me and him was sheriffs at the same time, him up in Plano and me out here. I think he's pretty proud of that. I know I was. Some of the old time Sheriffs never even wore a gun. A lotta folks find that hard to believe. Jim Scarborough'd never carry one - that's the younger Jim. Gaston Borkins wouldn't wear one up in Comanche County. I always liked to hear about the old-timers. Never missed a chance to do so. You can't help but compare yourself against the old-timers. Can't help but wonder how they'd have operated these times. There was this boy I sent to the 'lectric chair at Huntsville here awhile back. My arrest and my testimony. He killt a 14 year-old girl. Papers said it was a crime of passion but he told me there wasn't any passion to it. Told me that he'd been plannin' to kill somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said that if they turned him out, he'd do it again. Said he knew he was going to hell: 'Be there in about fifteen minutes.' I don't know what to make of that. I surely don't.

The crime you see now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willin' to die to even do this job. But, I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet somethin' I don't understand. A man would have to put his soul at hazard. He'd have to say: 'O.K., I'll be part of this world.'

Clearly what this thread needed was a monologue from No Country For Old Men.

A nice respite from the parade of rapes leading to suicide after parents and communities decide the little slut had it coming so why bother to do anything about it.

OK, looks like I really need to draw this out..

This new type of criminal this beast as it were has no conscious, is a sociopath who lacks any morals or values, caring about nothing but there own pleasure - they are the wolves clawing at the door in the dark. Want to understand them? Want to see their viewpoint?

I do not think they care about anything but chaos and get enjoyment out of others people pain.

Now read for the trick question. What type of society produces that individual?

The kind that drives god out of the class room.

Which one? Isis, Odin, Poseidon, Kali, Unelanuki, Ometecutli, Raijin, Xuan Wu, Nuakea, Eshu...

Id prefer Cthullu. But I guess you ca pick whoever. Something is better than nuthing

Your escape has been cut off. Unless it was sarcasm, we all know what you meant.

 

[gianmarco]

Member of Anonymous house raided

A 26-year-old Kentucky man has revealed that his home was the subject of an aggressive raid by a group of FBI agents last month in connection with an Anonymous hack that helped publicize key social media events in the Steubenville rape case.

Deric Lostutter, also known by his screen name KYAnonymous, told The Huffington Post over the phone that on April 15, FBI agents raided the Winchester, Ky., house he shares with his girlfriend and brother and that he was told he could face jail time if he let the story get out.

Lostutter, a self-employed IT security consultant and self-described Anonymous member, said on his blog that he'd just returned from a turkey hunt when he noticed what appeared to be a FedEx truck in his driveway.

"As I open the door to great [sic] the driver approximately 12 F.B.I. Swat Team agents jumped out of the truck screaming for me to 'Get The F**k Down' with m-16 assault rifles and full riot gear armed safety off, pointed directly at my head," Lostutter wrote.

"They seized my laptop, my girlfriend's laptop, flash drives, music CDs, an external hard-drive, two cell phones and my brother's xbox 360 for some reason," Lostutter told HuffPost.

The soft-spoken 26-year-old, who's also known by his hip-hop moniker, Shadowrapz, says he was a key figure in hacktivist collective Anonymous' efforts to publicize what happened the night an intoxicated 16-year-old Ohio girl was raped by two high school football players.

Lostutter says he was the one who published a trove of incriminating social media photographs, videos and messages that had been posted by Steubenville football players and that documented and ridiculed the victim."The tweets, screenshots, Instagrams. ... Pretty much everything you've seen in the media, that came through me," Lostutter said.

Lostutter also told HuffPost that the cache of social media posts was sent to him by Michelle McKee, who had received them from Alexandria Goddard, an activist and blogger, who had originally tracked down the posts, which at the time were publicly available and weren't obtained by hacking.

In March, two Steubenville high school football players, Trent Mays and Ma'lik Richmond, were found guilty of sexually assaulting a 16-year-old girl in August 2012; both youths were sentenced to serve time in a state juvenile detention center. Mays, 17, was also found guilty of distributing a nude photograph of a minor.

Judging from the FBI search warrant, which Lostutter has also published on his blog, the FBI was interested in seizing any evidence relating to the hack of the fan page for Steubenville High School's "Big Red" football team, RollRedRoll.com, and the site administrator's email, both of which were hacked in December of last year.

After the hack, a video appeared on the fan page. It showed a man wearing a Guy Fawkes mask, threatening to release social security numbers and other personal information of Steubenville football players unless they apologized to the rape victim by Jan. 1, 2013.

Lostutter told Mother Jones that he was the one in the video.

But Lostutter says he didn't hack RollRedRoll.com. A 22-year-old from Virginia Beach, Va., who goes by the moniker Batcat, took credit for the hack in an interview with the Steubenville Herald Star back in February.

Although Lostutter told HuffPost he never asked Batcat to hack the site, he admitted that he had approached "a lot of people daily" about different hacktivist "operations."

The FBI's search warrant for Lostutter's home states that he may have committed federal crimes such as "computer crimes" and "aggravated identity theft," as well as "identity theft, attempt and conspiracy."

Lostutter told HuffPost he received an email from the FBI saying he would receive a "target letter" indicting him for a federal offense as part of a federal grand jury trial. He has hired a lawyer from the Whistleblower Defense League, a legal activist group that defends journalists, whistleblowers and hackers.

If convicted of federal computer crimes, Lostutter could face up to 10 years in jail, Mother Jones reports. Meanwhile, convicted rapists Ma'lik Richmond and Trent Mays were sentenced to only one year and two years, respectively.

Hat tips to Gawker and Mother Jones for breaking the story.

 

[Slapdash]

Good to see law enforcement has their priorities in order.....

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

so if it hadn't been for these jackets would the boys ever faced jail time?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

so if it hadn't been for these jackets would the boys ever faced jail time?

Assuming jackets is auto-correct for hackers, probably not.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

Yeah merica!

 

[bigbottom]

so if it hadn't been for these jackets would the boys ever faced jail time?

Assuming jackets is auto-correct for hackers, probably not.

I thought they had been charged already before Anonymous got involved. Is that not the case?Edit: This was the post that I recall:

Is this where our country is going? The justice system fails the victim and "Anonymous" swoops into the rescue?

From the NYTimes article, I'm not entirely sure that the justice system "failed." The police charged the alleged assailants. It seems that the cops asked for witnesses several times. There is no indication that the police didn't intend to try to use the tape eventually at trial (there are admissibility issues that are likely involved which I haven't thought through fully), and in any case, releasing the evidence publically would just help the defense's assertion that the accused couldn't get a fair trial.It seems the most common complaint is that more accessories weren't charged, but I don't think it's unreasonable to focus on the case against the actual assailants. The prosecution, unfortunately, is almost certainly going to need the testimony of those who are possibly accessories. The lack of school-imposed discipline is another matter, but I'm having a hard time coming up with concrete evidence that the police aren't taking this seriously.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Oh, then I retract my answer. I thought I read that no arrests were made until after Anonymous got involved, but that appears to be wrong. It was the football coach, the school principal, and the superintendent who took insufficient action, not the police.

 

[T Bell]

Oh, then I retract my answer. I thought I read that no arrests were made until after Anonymous got involved, but that appears to be wrong. It was the football coach, the school principal, and the superintendent who took insufficient action, not the police.

From what I recall, the police investigation lacked momentum until Anonymous got involved. It was, for example, weeks after the incident before they interviewed anyone.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Oh, then I retract my answer. I thought I read that no arrests were made until after Anonymous got involved, but that appears to be wrong. It was the football coach, the school principal, and the superintendent who took insufficient action, not the police.

From what I recall, the police investigation lacked momentum until Anonymous got involved. It was, for example, weeks after the incident before they interviewed anyone.

That was my recollection too. That could easily be wrong, but I was under the impression that the police were going through the motions and the investigation was headed toward a white-washing.

That said, I have no problems going after somebody who hacked a school website (allegedly) and threated to release the SSNs of innocent third parties (which he admits).

 

[Gawain]

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

 

[Sweet J]

Oh, then I retract my answer. I thought I read that no arrests were made until after Anonymous got involved, but that appears to be wrong. It was the football coach, the school principal, and the superintendent who took insufficient action, not the police.

From what I recall, the police investigation lacked momentum until Anonymous got involved. It was, for example, weeks after the incident before they interviewed anyone.

That was my recollection too. That could easily be wrong, but I was under the impression that the police were going through the motions and the investigation was headed toward a white-washing.

That said, I have no problems going after somebody who hacked a school website (allegedly) and threated to release the SSNs of innocent third parties (which he admits).

1 and 2 years for rape, and 10 years for working (hacking) to expose the rape?

I don't have an answer, but this just doesn't feel right.

 

[Rayderr]

Oh, then I retract my answer. I thought I read that no arrests were made until after Anonymous got involved, but that appears to be wrong. It was the football coach, the school principal, and the superintendent who took insufficient action, not the police.

From what I recall, the police investigation lacked momentum until Anonymous got involved. It was, for example, weeks after the incident before they interviewed anyone.

That was my recollection too. That could easily be wrong, but I was under the impression that the police were going through the motions and the investigation was headed toward a white-washing.

That said, I have no problems going after somebody who hacked a school website (allegedly) and threated to release the SSNs of innocent third parties (which he admits).

1 and 2 years for rape, and 10 years for working (hacking) to expose the rape?

I don't have an answer, but this just doesn't feel right.

10 years is the max he could face. the 1 & 2 years for rape is what they were sentenced to, not what the max was for them.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Kind of an interesting follow-up to this story in Jezebel today (it was linked on Deadspin, I swear!).

In any case, it's very, very clear by now that the LocalLinks page perpetuated an awful lot of false and inflammatory information out there.

http://jezebel.com/a-town-destroyed-for-what-two-people-did-dispatch-fr-1298509440