Another 2006 mock to chew on. Since Young declared (1 Viewer)

[Andy Dufresne]

I may have the order at the bottom a bit off since I haven't seen an update from the last weekend.

Enjoy:

1. Houston - Reggie Bush

Cooler heads prevail and take Bush at #1. I doubt they keep this pick, though.

2. New Orleans - Matt Leinart

I just think he fits better here than Young.

3. Tennessee - Vince Young

Perfect place for young to land.

4 New York Jets - D'Brickashaw Ferguson

So many needs. But fill the LT spot for the next 10 years and stop worrying about it.

5. Green Bay - Lendale White

Defense is a big concern for the Pack, but that side of the ball is deep and they should be able to snag a starter in the second round. Their running back corps is in dire need of a stud (please don't talk to me about Gado). Drafting White is a major coup.

6. Oakland - Mario Williams

Pair him with Burggess and that's one of the top DE tandems in the league. To win the AFC West, more defense is needed.

7. San Francisco - A.J. Hawk

SF was one of, if not THE worst defenses in the league this year. Hawk fixes that a bit.

8. Buffalo - Haloti Ngata

Every other mock has this. Why not me? Letting Pat Williams go was a baaaaad decision.

9. Detroit - Winston Justice

Justice played the RT position at USC. He'll fit naturally on that side of the line for the Lions as Jeff Backus has started 80 straight at LT and has not been bad. Naturally, the two could easily switch sides as well. The Lions were 7th worst in rushing and 9th worst in sacks allowed. Not going O-Line would be criminal.

10. Arizona - Vernon Davis

Gives them an excellent chance to win. Tackle is also a possibility, but Davis' talent is too tough to pass up.

11. St. Louis - Mathias Kiwanuka

He should go higher, way higher, but the top of this draft is hard to crack.

12. Cleveland - Marcus McNeill

It's too bad injuries have this team snakebit. What a lineup the offense would be with the addition of a stud LT to Winslow and Edwards.

13. Baltimore - Michael Huff

Paired with Ed Reed, yikes! Dale Carter and Deion Sanders are both expected to retire. A starting 4 defensive backfield of Reed/Huff/Rolle/McAlister would be most impressive.

14. Philadelphia - Chad Greenway

Seems like a no brainer.

15. Atlanta - Jimmy Williams

The freefall ends here. He has the talent to be top 10, but his 'tweener' status hurts. Will help a team that has zero currently at the Safety spot.

16. Miami - Jonathan Scott

I just can't see them spending a first rounder on Jay Cutler when a shoe in LT like Scott is left on the board.

17. Minnesota - DeMeco Ryans

Or D'Qwell Jackson or Abdul Hodge. I like Ryans the best. Their LB corps is bad/old and any of these guys would really help.

18 Dallas - Eric Winston

Need a LT in the worst way and Winston is the best left on the board. QB would also make sense. I'd say Omar Jacobs ahead of Jay Cutler.

19 San Diego - Antonio Cromartie

Jammer is not a corner, but would make a good safety. This pick alllows them to move Jammer to safety.

20 Kansas City - Abdul Hodge

They still need D, and paired with Johnson makes lethal pair.

*21 Tampa Bay - Omar Jacobs

They miss out on the OL run, which is what they needed most. I don't think Gruden believes Simms is the answer. Jacobs gives him the athlete like he had in Gannon in Oakland. Yes, this is over Cutler.

*22 Cincinnati - Rodrique Wright

Their run defense has been a problem for a while now. Not the best problem to have in the AFC north.

*23 New York Giants - Broderick Bunkley

The interior of the line needs shoring up in order to make the ends even more effective. Which is a scary thought.

*24 Jacksonville - Tye Hill

Total need pick here and they're lucky to get someone who fits the bill so well.

*25 New England - D'Qwell Jackson

ILB is where the defense needs the most help. That he's here this late is fitting, since the Pats always seem to strike gold late.

*26 Denver (f/WAS) - Santonio Holmes

Rod Smith is almost done, and Lelie is not emerging. D-Line also makes sense from a need standpoint, but the talent isn't there to warrant it at this pick.

*27 Carolina - DeAngelo Williams

Davis is done and Foster let go, even with his impressive playoff performance as I believe he'll ask for too much money. Williams should go higher than this, but where?

*28 Chicago - Leonard Pope

A great fit as it's a top need for the Bears offense.

*29 Pittsburgh - Lawrence Maroney

He's gotta go somewhere. Is Parker really the answer? Bettis and Staley definitely aren't, at least for the long term. I don't think Parker is either.

*30 Denver - Tamba Hali

The D-Line proved itself to be what it was - Cleveland rejects.

*31 Seattle - Max Jean-Gilles

And the running game just keeps getting better and better.

*32 Indianapolis - Derek Hagan

I doubt they re-sign Wayne. Hagan is a nice replacement.

 

[snogger]

I think if Tice had stayed on, then Lawrence Maroney probably would have been the pick for the Vikes.Now you have to wonder if the owner and Childress will chase after E. James, Draft someone, or work in House with Fason, Wiz and Moore???

 

[Texasmouth]

Anyone think there is a chance Dallas could move up and grab Ferguson? The Jets have a lot of holes and could use extra picks. Just a thought. A lot of mock drafts have Dallas going WR in the first. I completely disagree with that. I think they will go T whether they trade up or not.

 

[diesel7982]

Are we really buying into the White @ #5 rumored crap?His character alone will prevent that.

 

[scooper]

Anyone think there is a chance Dallas could move up and grab Ferguson? The Jets have a lot of holes and could use extra picks. Just a thought.

A lot of mock drafts have Dallas going WR in the first. I completely disagree with that. I think they will go T whether they trade up or not.

It would take an awful lot to move up 14 spots for Ferguson. Winston's no also ran and they would save the picks for other needs.

 

[scooper]

*22 Cincinnati - Rodrique Wright

Their run defense has been a problem for a while now. Not the best problem to have in the AFC north.

My friends think I'm nuts (well, they may be right) but I think the Bengals could use as much help at DE as DT. If you rewatch the Pittsburgh game, you'll see the runs that killed them were mostly off tackles and sweeps. Yes, DT is a need, but for value sake, I'd love to see them go with a DE like Hali. Or a SS if they can't address it in free agency. Both would greatly aid the run defense on the edges. They need to address DT, and I'd be happy to see one here, but I'd be just has happy to see a Mahelona or someone else in the second. Wright's motor scares me.

Good mock.

 

[Texasmouth]

Are we really buying into the White @ #5 rumored crap?

His character alone will prevent that.

No way he goes before the kid from Memphis. I think the kid from Memphis is better than Caddy or Ronnie Brown and had it not been for Bush, this kid would be the star RB of the draft.

 

[MDSkinner]

Are we really buying into the White @ #5 rumored crap?

His character alone will prevent that.

I truly can't fathom the Packers taking White, with all of the needs that they have, but the rumor is that they like him. I would think it is just talk to try to get someone to make a jump up, but you never know.

 

[Texasmouth]

Are we really buying into the White @ #5 rumored crap?

His character alone will prevent that.

I truly can't fathom the Packers taking White, with all of the needs that they have, but the rumor is that they like him. I would think it is just talk to try to get someone to make a jump up, but you never know.

How bad is Gado's injury? Seems like they would give this kid a chance to be the long term starter there. I think the guy is a talent. They also have Fisher and Davenpoop to try and resign.

 

[ooofffaaa]

If Cutler is there at #16 I think the Dolphins take him.I doubt they take OL with their first pick. If anything they'll draft a safety or CB instead of Cutler.

 

[Kiddnets]

Still think the Jets make a play for Bush to ease the whole Herm messIs Brick Ferguson closer to Ogden or Gallery? If Ogden Jets grab him, cut Fabini and move A Jones to the right side. If Gallery - trade down for D. Williams

 

[diesel7982]

Are we really buying into the White @ #5 rumored crap?

His character alone will prevent that.

I truly can't fathom the Packers taking White, with all of the needs that they have, but the rumor is that they like him. I would think it is just talk to try to get someone to make a jump up, but you never know.

I guess I just don't understand why people jump all over unsubstansiated rumors like this one, and then bash legit sites like PFT for posting rumors from more legit sources. White is a good talent, but certainly not better than DeAngelo, and certainly has the kind of character that should scare any team away from giving him a big payday before hes played a down.

 

[Helm]

Denver gets the top rated WR and a steal of a pick with Tambi Hali at 30(will probably be 32nd in the real draft). Would love to see it.

 

[Red Apples]

So the Bears take Leonard Pope over Mercedes Lewis?I interested to see who is the 1st TE off the board.

 

[Helm]

So the Bears take Leonard Pope over Mercedes Lewis?

I interested to see who is the 1st TE off the board.

Don't leave out Vernon Davis.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

No way he goes before the kid from Memphis. I think the kid from Memphis is better than Caddy or Ronnie Brown and had it not been for Bush, this kid would be the star RB of the draft.

I think you're right. The thing that will cause him to fall, however, will be the twin knocks of "played lesser competition" and "high milage".

 

[Andy Dufresne]

So the Bears take Leonard Pope over Mercedes Lewis?

I interested to see who is the 1st TE off the board.

Don't leave out Vernon Davis.

Vernon Davis, #10 - Arizona

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Are we really buying into the White @ #5 rumored crap?

Not really, but if he doesn't go there, he goes in the 20's and then you have people saying "no way he lasts that long."It's not that farfetched though.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Excellent mock. 6 OLs in the first round, ties the record, and I expect it to be broken. Odd to see DeAngelo and Maroney so low, and their workouts will decide which third of the first round they land it, but I expect Maroney to slip like this. I really think DeAngelo has some big fans in high places though. We will see. I'm thinking everyone is a little too hyped on on Vernon Davis right now. Yes, he's extremely fast and strong for a TE, but his blocking is marginal, and his hands and route running leave plenty to be desired. Also, there are so many quality TEs and excellent prospects around the league, I think the demand is a little low, and the Cardinals address another position (even though TE is a need there). I've predicted Rod Wright to miss the first round. He was punished by Latui in the Rose Bowl and pretty much a non-factor for most of that game. It's been the case with him several times against decent competition. He could be the fourth DT chosen, easily. Ngata, Bunkley, Wroten, or Watson or Mahelona.My .02

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I've predicted Rod Wright to miss the first round. He was punished by Latui in the Rose Bowl and pretty much a non-factor for most of that game. It's been the case with him several times against decent competition. He could be the fourth DT chosen, easily. Ngata, Bunkley, Wroten, or Watson or Mahelona.

My .02

Wroten would have been the pick here had he not been caught with marijuana last week.

 

[Helm]

So the Bears take Leonard Pope over Mercedes Lewis?

I interested to see who is the 1st TE off the board.

Don't leave out Vernon Davis.

Vernon Davis, #10 - Arizona

Yeah I'm pretty much blind... and the brandy/vodka/irish cream/beer last night was not a good idea.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I don't see Maroney to Pittsburgh at all. I think if White were available, which now seems like a pip-dream, they'd take him, otherwise they address more pressing needs at DE or WR. OL and LB depth are also a possibility. Wouldn't be shocked to see Michael Bush got to Pittsburgh in round 2, if he was still available, which is possible with all the RB talent in this draft.Despite that, nice job, Andy.... good read.

 

[helix]

No way he goes before the kid from Memphis. I think the kid from Memphis is better than Caddy or Ronnie Brown and had it not been for Bush, this kid would be the star RB of the draft.

I think you're right. The thing that will cause him to fall, however, will be the twin knocks of "played lesser competition" and "high milage".

More like no competition. White looked great against one of the top D's in the NCAA. Williams ran up numbers against the likes of Akron. The only real team he faced was Old Miss (and they even suck) and he gained 85 yards on 24 attempts. White will be drafted before Williams (although I doubt 5th). Mark it down.

 

[Marc Levin]

Why do folks think Lendale will declare? Is there something I missed about his intention to forego his senir year?He is likely a first round/top-15 selection if he returnms for his senior year and he is a likely late 2nd round selection if he comes out now.The smartest thing that kid can do is graduate from college.

 

[Helm]

Why do folks think Lendale will declare? Is there something I missed about his intention to forego his senir year?

He is likely a first round/top-5 selection if he returnms for his senior year and he is a likely late 2nd round selection if he comes out now.

The smartest thing that kid can do is graduate from college.

He's not very smart, and I remember hearing that Pete told him to go Pro.

 

[bagger.]

Are we really buying into the White @ #5 rumored crap?

His character alone will prevent that.

Character?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Why do folks think Lendale will declare? Is there something I missed about his intention to forego his senir year?

He is likely a first round/top-15 selection if he returnms for his senior year and he is a likely late 2nd round selection if he comes out now.

The smartest thing that kid can do is graduate from college.

:teehee:You used "smart" when referring to Lendale White.

:teehee:

 

[Evilgrin 72]

No way he goes before the kid from Memphis. I think the kid from Memphis is better than Caddy or Ronnie Brown and had it not been for Bush, this kid would be the star RB of the draft.

I think you're right. The thing that will cause him to fall, however, will be the twin knocks of "played lesser competition" and "high milage".

More like no competition. White looked great against one of the top D's in the NCAA. Williams ran up numbers against the likes of Akron. The only real team he faced was Old Miss (and they even suck) and he gained 85 yards on 24 attempts. White will be drafted before Williams (although I doubt 5th). Mark it down.

Wow. I'd take Williams in a heartbeat. The guy has averaged over 6 ypc for two seasons and just missed rushing for 2,000 yards this year despite missing a game (also ran for over 1,900 and had over 2,200 combined yards last season.) He's electric, no matter where he currently plays.Folks said the same thing about Randy Moss' collegiate numbers too.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Why do folks think Lendale will declare? Is there something I missed about his intention to forego his senir year?

He is likely a first round/top-15 selection if he returnms for his senior year and he is a likely late 2nd round selection if he comes out now.

The smartest thing that kid can do is graduate from college.

There's no WAY he lasts until the late second round. There's no way he lasts until the second round, period.

 

[bagger.]

Why do folks think Lendale will declare? Is there something I missed about his intention to forego his senir year?

He is likely a first round/top-15 selection if he returnms for his senior year and he is a likely late 2nd round selection if he comes out now.

The smartest thing that kid can do is graduate from college.

First people think it is more likely that Lendale will declare than Bush, and most people are pretty confident Bush is going to. Why you ask? LenDale does not like school. He has an absolute TON of classes to take in order for him to be eligible to play his senior season, so much so that he may not be eligible to play in spring ball and he'd have to take a bunch of summer school.So he can either do that or declare and become a sure lock first rounder.

You are absolutely insane if you think he is a late 2nd round selection, and there is not one college football expert or person who is familiar with LenDale White who does not think he is a sure 1st rounder.

What do you base his late 2nd round draft position on? He had a better career at USC than Reggie Bush and is thought of by many as a more prototypical NFL back.

He will not escape the first round.

 

[bagger.]

Why do folks think Lendale will declare?  Is there something I missed about his intention to forego his senir year?

He is likely a first round/top-15 selection if he returnms for his senior year and he is a likely late 2nd round selection if he comes out now.

The smartest thing that kid can do is graduate from college.

There's no WAY he lasts until the late second round. There's no way he lasts until the second round, period.

I am not sure what Levin is smoking, but he clearly does not know what he is talking about here.

 

[Helm]

Interesting little tidbit. Vernon Davis(TE 6'3" 253) 40 time is 4.41, while Sinorice Moss(WR 5'8" 185) 40 time is 4.40. This will make the scouts drool.

 

[Chaos Commish]

He's not very smart, and I remember hearing that Pete told him to go Pro.

I don't remember Carroll telling him to go pro. I do know Carroll was disappointed in LenDale for missing a seminar specifically addressing the pros and cons of entering the draft early. I agree with those who expect him to declare, but the silence from USC this week has been... well, it does make you wonder. The deadline is coming up very fast. Five days.

 

[Marc Levin]

Why do folks think Lendale will declare?  Is there something I missed about his intention to forego his senir year?

He is likely a first round/top-15 selection if he returnms for his senior year and he is a likely late 2nd round selection if he comes out now.

The smartest thing that kid can do is graduate from college.

:teehee:You used "smart" when referring to Lendale White.

:teehee:

 

[Marc Levin]

Why do folks think Lendale will declare?  Is there something I missed about his intention to forego his senir year?

He is likely a first round/top-15 selection if he returnms for his senior year and he is a likely late 2nd round selection if he comes out now.

The smartest thing that kid can do is graduate from college.

There's no WAY he lasts until the late second round. There's no way he lasts until the second round, period.

I am not sure what Levin is smoking, but he clearly does not know what he is talking about here.

Bets?Once the teams that need RBs address those needs with real first round talent, Lendale White lasts until the very very late first at best.

I see Pitt thinking of taking him near the end of the first, and then noone else thnking of taking him until the second.

 

[Texasmouth]

No way he goes before the kid from Memphis. I think the kid from Memphis is better than Caddy or Ronnie Brown and had it not been for Bush, this kid would be the star RB of the draft.

I think you're right. The thing that will cause him to fall, however, will be the twin knocks of "played lesser competition" and "high milage".

More like no competition. White looked great against one of the top D's in the NCAA. Williams ran up numbers against the likes of Akron. The only real team he faced was Old Miss (and they even suck) and he gained 85 yards on 24 attempts. White will be drafted before Williams (although I doubt 5th). Mark it down.

Wow. I'd take Williams in a heartbeat. The guy has averaged over 6 ypc for two seasons and just missed rushing for 2,000 yards this year despite missing a game (also ran for over 1,900 and had over 2,200 combined yards last season.) He's electric, no matter where he currently plays.Folks said the same thing about Randy Moss' collegiate numbers too.

People also said that about a running back that played at TCU. Didn't really seem to bother him much. When people say that, it just doesn't add up because the talent on their own team usually sucks too. Who is Memphis' QB? Who are their linemen? Bush/White have a QB, TE and 5 offensive linemen that will all be in the NFL. Who did Williams have on his team?

 

[Pipes]

Are we really buying into the White @ #5 rumored crap?

His character alone will prevent that.

I truly can't fathom the Packers taking White, with all of the needs that they have, but the rumor is that they like him. I would think it is just talk to try to get someone to make a jump up, but you never know.

I just don't see how they can pass on Hawk or Mario Williams with their holes on defense. They can fill that position later in the draft. (Calhoun in the 2nd perhaps)

 

[Marc Levin]

What do you base his late 2nd round draft position on?  He had a better career at USC than Reggie Bush and is thought of by many as a more prototypical NFL back.

Prototypical body shape - that's it.Wait until his "measurables" come out in the combines and individual testing.He just won a school TD record and played in a nat'l champ game - of course his hype is huge - wait until the flavor of the college season wears off - he will drop like a stone behind the college RBs with measurable statistics.It is the second week in JANUARY for god's sake - whatever "prognosticators" say now will change 50 times before April.

 

[diesel7982]

What do you base his late 2nd round draft position on?  He had a better career at USC than Reggie Bush and is thought of by many as a more prototypical NFL back.

Prototypical body shape - that's it.Wait until his "measurables" come out in the combines and individual testing.

He just won a school TD record and played in a nat'l champ game - of course his hype is huge - wait until the flavor of the college season wears off - he will drop like a stone behind the college RBs with measurable statistics.

It is the second week in JANUARY for god's sake - whatever "prognosticators" say now will change 50 times before April.

Can't wait to see LenDale's Wonderlic. He'll make players from the U look smart.

 

[Helm]

Why do folks think Lendale will declare?  Is there something I missed about his intention to forego his senir year?

He is likely a first round/top-15 selection if he returnms for his senior year and he is a likely late 2nd round selection if he comes out now.

The smartest thing that kid can do is graduate from college.

There's no WAY he lasts until the late second round. There's no way he lasts until the second round, period.

I am not sure what Levin is smoking, but he clearly does not know what he is talking about here.

Bets?Once the teams that need RBs address those needs with real first round talent, Lendale White lasts until the very very late first at best.

I see Pitt thinking of taking him near the end of the first, and then noone else thnking of taking him until the second.

I'd think about agreeing with you before the Rose Bowl, but now the only way he makes it to the second round is if he runs a 6.0 40 or if the popo finds the dead hookers in his trunk.

 

[Marc Levin]

Why do folks think Lendale will declare?  Is there something I missed about his intention to forego his senir year?

He is likely a first round/top-15 selection if he returnms for his senior year and he is a likely late 2nd round selection if he comes out now.

The smartest thing that kid can do is graduate from college.

There's no WAY he lasts until the late second round. There's no way he lasts until the second round, period.

I am not sure what Levin is smoking, but he clearly does not know what he is talking about here.

Bets?Once the teams that need RBs address those needs with real first round talent, Lendale White lasts until the very very late first at best.

I see Pitt thinking of taking him near the end of the first, and then noone else thnking of taking him until the second.

I'd think about agreeing with you before the Rose Bowl, but now the only way he makes it to the second round is if he runs a 6.0 40 or if the popo finds the dead hookers in his trunk.

That's the prob- the rose bowl hype is in full gear, and that will wear off LONG before the measurables come out.Once he starts running against the other RBs at the combines in April, he will fall like a rock.

 

[The Gator]

Good jaob again, I still think if Greenway is there the Browns take him. This draft is deep at OL and they can get some bargains later on.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Why do folks think Lendale will declare?  Is there something I missed about his intention to forego his senir year?

He is likely a first round/top-15 selection if he returnms for his senior year and he is a likely late 2nd round selection if he comes out now.

The smartest thing that kid can do is graduate from college.

There's no WAY he lasts until the late second round. There's no way he lasts until the second round, period.

I am not sure what Levin is smoking, but he clearly does not know what he is talking about here.

Bets?Once the teams that need RBs address those needs with real first round talent, Lendale White lasts until the very very late first at best.

I see Pitt thinking of taking him near the end of the first, and then noone else thnking of taking him until the second.

I'd think about agreeing with you before the Rose Bowl, but now the only way he makes it to the second round is if he runs a 6.0 40 or if the popo finds the dead hookers in his trunk.

That's the prob- the rose bowl hype is in full gear, and that will wear off LONG before the measurables come out.Once he starts running against the other RBs at the combines in April, he will fall like a rock.

I don't think so. No way he gets to the second round - not at his size. Even if he runs a 4.6, Pittsburgh will take him in round 1 - he is the prototypical back for their system. I would definitely bet you he doesn't last into round 2.

 

[bagger.]

What do you base his late 2nd round draft position on?  He had a better career at USC than Reggie Bush and is thought of by many as a more prototypical NFL back.

Prototypical body shape - that's it.Wait until his "measurables" come out in the combines and individual testing.

He just won a school TD record and played in a nat'l champ game - of course his hype is huge - wait until the flavor of the college season wears off - he will drop like a stone behind the college RBs with measurable statistics.

It is the second week in JANUARY for god's sake - whatever "prognosticators" say now will change 50 times before April.

So leading the team in rushing his Freshmen and Sophomore year means nothing (as well as 1300 yards his Junior year). He's more than just a TD factory.Both games against "stud" defenses in NC games he went for 100+ yards and multiple TDs.

I am sure you are right though. He just has the body shape and nothing more.

I put the O/U on USC games you watched while White played at 3.

 

[bagger.]

Why do folks think Lendale will declare?  Is there something I missed about his intention to forego his senir year?

He is likely a first round/top-15 selection if he returnms for his senior year and he is a likely late 2nd round selection if he comes out now.

The smartest thing that kid can do is graduate from college.

There's no WAY he lasts until the late second round. There's no way he lasts until the second round, period.

I am not sure what Levin is smoking, but he clearly does not know what he is talking about here.

Bets?Once the teams that need RBs address those needs with real first round talent, Lendale White lasts until the very very late first at best.

I see Pitt thinking of taking him near the end of the first, and then noone else thnking of taking him until the second.

I'd think about agreeing with you before the Rose Bowl, but now the only way he makes it to the second round is if he runs a 6.0 40 or if the popo finds the dead hookers in his trunk.

That's the prob- the rose bowl hype is in full gear, and that will wear off LONG before the measurables come out.Once he starts running against the other RBs at the combines in April, he will fall like a rock.

at thinking White is slow.Stop now while you aren't too far behind.

 

[Marc Levin]

Why do folks think Lendale will declare?  Is there something I missed about his intention to forego his senir year?

He is likely a first round/top-15 selection if he returnms for his senior year and he is a likely late 2nd round selection if he comes out now.

The smartest thing that kid can do is graduate from college.

There's no WAY he lasts until the late second round. There's no way he lasts until the second round, period.

I am not sure what Levin is smoking, but he clearly does not know what he is talking about here.

Bets?Once the teams that need RBs address those needs with real first round talent, Lendale White lasts until the very very late first at best.

I see Pitt thinking of taking him near the end of the first, and then noone else thnking of taking him until the second.

I'd think about agreeing with you before the Rose Bowl, but now the only way he makes it to the second round is if he runs a 6.0 40 or if the popo finds the dead hookers in his trunk.

That's the prob- the rose bowl hype is in full gear, and that will wear off LONG before the measurables come out.Once he starts running against the other RBs at the combines in April, he will fall like a rock.

I don't think so. No way he gets to the second round - not at his size. Even if he runs a 4.6, Pittsburgh will take him in round 1 - he is the prototypical back for their system. I would definitely bet you he doesn't last into round 2.

I concede that Pitt will THINK abot him in the first, but that's it.If another back is there, though, they take him instead.

I retract though - I am not betting on anything draft related until after the Senior Bowl injuries and the April combines.

 

[bagger.]

:backpedal:

 

[Chaos Commish]

Bets?

Once the teams that need RBs address those needs with real first round talent, Lendale White lasts until the very very late first at best.

I see Pitt thinking of taking him near the end of the first, and then noone else thnking of taking him until the second.

I disagree with you Marc, but I wouldn't bet you until after his pro day. A few months ago I suggested his workouts would downgrade him (foolishly, btw), and several agreed. Now, after the speed he's shown on several long runs, and reading about how athletic this guy really is, he's going to have to be really bad in Indy (if he attends the combine), or his pro day to fall that far. He's a beast and his size and power are rare in this draft.

 

[Marc Levin]

Why do folks think Lendale will declare?  Is there something I missed about his intention to forego his senir year?

He is likely a first round/top-15 selection if he returnms for his senior year and he is a likely late 2nd round selection if he comes out now.

The smartest thing that kid can do is graduate from college.

There's no WAY he lasts until the late second round. There's no way he lasts until the second round, period.

I am not sure what Levin is smoking, but he clearly does not know what he is talking about here.

Bets?Once the teams that need RBs address those needs with real first round talent, Lendale White lasts until the very very late first at best.

I see Pitt thinking of taking him near the end of the first, and then noone else thnking of taking him until the second.

I'd think about agreeing with you before the Rose Bowl, but now the only way he makes it to the second round is if he runs a 6.0 40 or if the popo finds the dead hookers in his trunk.

That's the prob- the rose bowl hype is in full gear, and that will wear off LONG before the measurables come out.Once he starts running against the other RBs at the combines in April, he will fall like a rock.

at thinking White is slow.Stop now while you aren't too far behind.

????Where did I say he was "slow" - or make ANY comment on his speed. Maybe YOU should stop placing assumptions on what I say?

I will say that he wil clock in slower than OTHER first round RBs.

 

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Why do folks think Lendale will declare?  Is there something I missed about his intention to forego his senir year?

He is likely a first round/top-15 selection if he returnms for his senior year and he is a likely late 2nd round selection if he comes out now.

The smartest thing that kid can do is graduate from college.

There's no WAY he lasts until the late second round. There's no way he lasts until the second round, period.

I am not sure what Levin is smoking, but he clearly does not know what he is talking about here.

Bets?Once the teams that need RBs address those needs with real first round talent, Lendale White lasts until the very very late first at best.

I see Pitt thinking of taking him near the end of the first, and then noone else thnking of taking him until the second.

I'd think about agreeing with you before the Rose Bowl, but now the only way he makes it to the second round is if he runs a 6.0 40 or if the popo finds the dead hookers in his trunk.

That's the prob- the rose bowl hype is in full gear, and that will wear off LONG before the measurables come out.Once he starts running against the other RBs at the combines in April, he will fall like a rock.

at thinking White is slow.Stop now while you aren't too far behind.

????Where did I say he was "slow" - or make ANY comment on his speed. Maybe YOU should stop placing assumptions on what I say?

I will say that he wil clock in slower than OTHER first round RBs.

saying that he will clock in slower than other first round RBs is commenting on his speed.