Antonio Gates dynasty value (1 Viewer)

[jp81976]

Trying to get Gates from another owner who is out of the running in a dynasty league.

What is his value?

Owner has no RB depth, benson and hardesty are his only playable backs.

Is Hillis good value or too much?

12 team DEEP roster dynasty league (26 man roster with 4 IR, 2 man practice squad and a rookie taxi squad---however many picks you had that you haven't called up to a roster). Point is, WW is BARREN.

 

[Raider Nation]

I don't want to speak to specific players you should give up, but how many good years could Gates possibly have left? I LOVE the guy, but the reality is that he'll be 32 at the beginning of next season, and he's always banged up. He's a future Hall of Famer with nothing left to prove.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

I own Gates in one league and I almost feel like he is untradable. From people making offers for him, it seems like no one will offer enough where it is worth it to let him go. He is worth more to me than what I can get in return. Now if I was in rebuilding mode that might be different.

If I was making an offer for Gates, I would probably not be willing to offer enough to get a deal done because of what Gates is right now, an aging player with what seems to be an injury that isn't getting better.

 

[JMon348]

0-7 and completely out of it with various injuries.

Traded Gates for Demaryius Thomas and Marcedes Lewis.

 

[BearsFan4Life]

Beginning of the week last week in our dynasty:

Gave:

Keller

Redman

Got:

Gates

Quizz Rogers

Still in the thick of the race for the final playoff spot in my division, if I fall out I will sell

 

[Mario Kart]

I would only take MJD or Rice for him.

I would give Hillis straight up or Mcgahee only.

 

[jp81976]

I own Gates in one league and I almost feel like he is untradable. From people making offers for him, it seems like no one will offer enough where it is worth it to let him go. He is worth more to me than what I can get in return. Now if I was in rebuilding mode that might be different.If I was making an offer for Gates, I would probably not be willing to offer enough to get a deal done because of what Gates is right now, an aging player with what seems to be an injury that isn't getting better.

Real helpful answers so far guys, thank you.My thinking is, he's been able to deal with it and when he's onto field he's tough to beat.That's why I was thinking a back with potential to start, but limited in that he may be done in three years for a guy that is super high risk-high reward. Gates is really the toughest player for me to judge. Another owner is willing to deal Vernon Davis but he wants a first round rookie pick. I can't justify trading a #1 for a TE...to me the best are on,y a few points better than the rest...I have Greg Olsen, he's not much worse than Gates, but he's 12th in scoring.

 

[az_prof]

I have him and wouldn't trade him lightly. He is still one of the top 3 TEs when he plays and in the past he has always played hurt. Gonzo had a year like this quite a few years ago and he has gone on to have more good years than most would have guessed. Great players have a longer plateau. I expect Gates to continue to be a top 5 TE for the next two to three years.

 

[jp81976]

I guess I should add I'm 6-1 with a 3 game lead in my division...I'm favored to win big his week and the second place team favored to lose big. I might clinch this week and be able to coast. Not really relevant since this is about Gates' value but wanted to gie context why I'd be going after him.

 

[loose circuits]

would think a rebuilding team would take a 1st rounder for him. If they are out of the running, that could be half their shelf life

 

[HAM]

12 team 25 man roster dynasty. I sent him packing two weeks ago for M. Lewis and a 2012 1st rounder. I also own Aaron Hernandez which made it a little easier to move him. Didn't want to get caught with the hand in the jar. Happy with a 1st which should be a top 5 pick.

 

[bengalbuck]

I guess I should add I'm 6-1 with a 3 game lead in my division...I'm favored to win big his week and the second place team favored to lose big. I might clinch this week and be able to coast. Not really relevant since this is about Gates' value but wanted to gie context why I'd be going after him.

Why not just trade the 1st for Vernon Davis?A late 1st isn't bad value for Davis who is young and should give you top 5 TE production for a long time. If you're drafting late in the 1st, the chances of you getting a RB or WR who is going to be a long term above average starter is pretty slim....it would be different if you were drafting top 5.

 

[jp81976]

I guess I should add I'm 6-1 with a 3 game lead in my division...I'm favored to win big his week and the second place team favored to lose big. I might clinch this week and be able to coast. Not really relevant since this is about Gates' value but wanted to gie context why I'd be going after him.

Why not just trade the 1st for Vernon Davis?A late 1st isn't bad value for Davis who is young and should give you top 5 TE production for a long time. If you're drafting late in the 1st, the chances of you getting a RB or WR who is going to be a long term above average starter is pretty slim....it would be different if you were drafting top 5.

Well I traded my first this year for Fred Jackson. He's trying to get my 2013 #1.I won the league last year and have never had success in TE first round anyhow...my best pick was Demaryius Thomas I guess...and that's had a rocky start. I haven't gotten one starter in the 8 years of this league in the first round...granted I pick late every year but I haven't hit once...still waiting on Michael Bush. Roy Helu this year.

 

[sspunisher]

Gates owner here and I find it hard to sell him. His upside, even if it's for a year or two, clearly outweighs the garbage people expect me to take for him. But then again I'm in the hunt for the championship.

If I was completely rebuilding I'd go after draft picks and young or underachieving talent I believe in. Doubt he could get Little, but I'd be all over that if someone bit. Rudolph, Kendall Hunter, Mario Manningham would be a couple guys I'd look at. Maybe Jon Baldwin if the owner is frustrated. Julius Thomas could be a throw in if you can pull a deal with his owner. I'd definitely be after Murray but its one week too late for that.

 

[jp81976]

Gates owner here and I find it hard to sell him. His upside, even if it's for a year or two, clearly outweighs the garbage people expect me to take for him. But then again I'm in the hunt for the championship. If I was completely rebuilding I'd go after draft picks and young or underachieving talent I believe in. Doubt he could get Little, but I'd be all over that if someone bit. Rudolph, Kendall Hunter, Mario Manningham would be a couple guys I'd look at. Maybe Jon Baldwin if the owner is frustrated. Julius Thomas could be a throw in if you can pull a deal with his owner. I'd definitely be after Murray but its one week too late for that.

Of the guys you named I have Murray and no way I'm trading him for Gates.Was thinking Demaryius Thomas but even a guy like that I'd hate to trade if he gets back to where I thought he'd be when I drafted him.

 

[sspunisher]

Gates owner here and I find it hard to sell him. His upside, even if it's for a year or two, clearly outweighs the garbage people expect me to take for him. But then again I'm in the hunt for the championship. If I was completely rebuilding I'd go after draft picks and young or underachieving talent I believe in. Doubt he could get Little, but I'd be all over that if someone bit. Rudolph, Kendall Hunter, Mario Manningham would be a couple guys I'd look at. Maybe Jon Baldwin if the owner is frustrated. Julius Thomas could be a throw in if you can pull a deal with his owner. I'd definitely be after Murray but its one week too late for that.

Of the guys you named I have Murray and no way I'm trading him for Gates.Was thinking Demaryius Thomas but even a guy like that I'd hate to trade if he gets back to where I thought he'd be when I drafted him.

Good call on Demaryius. But be honest, would you have traded Murray 2 weeks ago before Felix got hurt?

 

[jp81976]

Gates owner here and I find it hard to sell him. His upside, even if it's for a year or two, clearly outweighs the garbage people expect me to take for him. But then again I'm in the hunt for the championship. If I was completely rebuilding I'd go after draft picks and young or underachieving talent I believe in. Doubt he could get Little, but I'd be all over that if someone bit. Rudolph, Kendall Hunter, Mario Manningham would be a couple guys I'd look at. Maybe Jon Baldwin if the owner is frustrated. Julius Thomas could be a throw in if you can pull a deal with his owner. I'd definitely be after Murray but its one week too late for that.

Of the guys you named I have Murray and no way I'm trading him for Gates.Was thinking Demaryius Thomas but even a guy like that I'd hate to trade if he gets back to where I thought he'd be when I drafted him.

Good call on Demaryius. But be honest, would you have traded Murray 2 weeks ago before Felix got hurt?No---I was very high on Murray---drafted him in the second round and considered him in the first (12th overall....chose Helu instead). I've had a lot of success with RB's after the first round---Turner (4th round) Bradshaw (5th round) Charles (3rd round) Torain (2nd round)So I'm not shocked he's doing well. And right now I'd rather play Murray than Hillis.

 

[sspunisher]

Micahel Bush is a very interesting dynasty piece nowadays. He's obviously impossible to trade for if the McFadden owner has him. But if he's sitting on another team, maybe that owner would bite for a straight up Gates for Bush trade.

He'll FINALLY be a free agent next year and I'm hoping he'll go somewhere to be the lead back ala Michael Turner. A bit of a gamble, but no more than holding onto Gates.

 

[jp81976]

Micahel Bush is a very interesting dynasty piece nowadays. He's obviously impossible to trade for if the McFadden owner has him. But if he's sitting on another team, maybe that owner would bite for a straight up Gates for Bush trade.He'll FINALLY be a free agent next year and I'm hoping he'll go somewhere to be the lead back ala Michael Turner. A bit of a gamble, but no more than holding onto Gates.

Ha. The gates owner and I discussed Bush. I actually traded Marvin Harrison to him for Bush' rookie rights. Marvin suffered a knee injury that DAY and then the shooting stuff happened. Marvin never payed a down for him. Bush brings back bad memories for him lol.

 

[sspunisher]

I agree with Murray, but I'm a Cowboys fan so I thought I was being overly "homer" for liking his skills more than any other back in the draft. Only RB I was definitely taking ahead of Murray was Ingram, and I was back and forth on Helu/Murray.

 

[jeter23]

Micahel Bush is a very interesting dynasty piece nowadays. He's obviously impossible to trade for if the McFadden owner has him. But if he's sitting on another team, maybe that owner would bite for a straight up Gates for Bush trade.He'll FINALLY be a free agent next year and I'm hoping he'll go somewhere to be the lead back ala Michael Turner. A bit of a gamble, but no more than holding onto Gates.

Maybe I just don't have a good grasp on Gates' dynasty value, but there is no way I would trade him for Bush, or some of the other names mentioned here.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

I have him and wouldn't trade him lightly. He is still one of the top 3 TEs when he plays and in the past he has always played hurt. Gonzo had a year like this quite a few years ago and he has gone on to have more good years than most would have guessed. Great players have a longer plateau. I expect Gates to continue to be a top 5 TE for the next two to three years.

Waaay too many folks here consider 31 old for a TE...

 

[Raider Nation]

I have him and wouldn't trade him lightly. He is still one of the top 3 TEs when he plays and in the past he has always played hurt. Gonzo had a year like this quite a few years ago and he has gone on to have more good years than most would have guessed. Great players have a longer plateau. I expect Gates to continue to be a top 5 TE for the next two to three years.

Waaay too many folks here consider 31 old for a TE...

How about for a 31-year-old TE who has all the money he could ever spend to go along with chronic foot/toe problems?

 

[andyhdz]

In my redraft league I got Gates for Colston and Keller. I badly needed an upgrade to my TE position so I gave up my WR4 and my backup TE for him. It will either pan out big time or not. It was worth the risk since even a gimpy Gates is better than a lot of healthy TEs as last week proved.

 

[comfortably numb]

Micahel Bush is a very interesting dynasty piece nowadays. He's obviously impossible to trade for if the McFadden owner has him. But if he's sitting on another team, maybe that owner would bite for a straight up Gates for Bush trade.He'll FINALLY be a free agent next year and I'm hoping he'll go somewhere to be the lead back ala Michael Turner. A bit of a gamble, but no more than holding onto Gates.

Maybe I just don't have a good grasp on Gates' dynasty value, but there is no way I would trade him for Bush, or some of the other names mentioned here.

 

[Jimbo Slice]

Before the season I sent Reggie bush/Tony gonzalez for him in a Ppr. Also have Keller and gronk but can start two