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Antonio Gates is the single most valuable player in FF (1 Viewer)
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Limp Ditka
Footballguy
I have him in 3 leagues, 2 are TE mandatory leaguesI'm 1-5 between the 6 games played.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
The problem with Taking gates in round 3 is your going to be weak either @ #1 WR or #2 RB.. Where its seems to be a better idea to get a top 5 TE in Rounds 6 or 7 and have a solid WR and RB core.
However... so far; all the Gates owners in my $$ leagues are doing really well this season.
However... so far; all the Gates owners in my $$ leagues are doing really well this season.
Tenacious
Footballguy
In my league it always balances out for this very reason. The guy who takes Gates gets a 2-3 pts per game advantage, but then is also forced to take a 2-3 pts per game hit on his RB or WR core. So yeah, Gates is great at his position, but single most valuable player is a bit of an overstatement.
jbalicki10
Footballguy
I got him in the 4th round in the middle. I am 1-1 but the 1st week lost was to the highest scoring team. I was 2nd highest, and this week I was the highest scoring team.My recievers: Steve Smith, TJ Housh, Braylon Edwards, james jones, crayton, jacoby jonesRunning Backs: FWP, ADP, Jackson, Deangelo Will., Brian LeonardSo yes, you will be weak at RB or WR if you take him in the 3rd or 4th round. So far it's paying off....
shadyridr
Footballguy
I took Gates and am kind of weak at WR with Reggie Brown, Galloway, and Holmes as my starters with Welker on the bench. I am 2-0 and blowing everyone in my league away in points. As you can see if you draft WR's correctly you can get some solid WRs to play along with the consistent stud that is Gates. Now all I gotta do is hope Brown does well tonight and Im set.
Ike Turner
Footballguy
If you grab Gates in the third round, you'd better be pretty good at digging through the crapola for your RB2-RB3. I got super lucky with Caddy so far this season, but that was just a lucky break. When you see a player like Jason Witten drafted in the 10th round and go off in week one, it'll give you a few Milanta moments for sure.
Anonymous Internet User
Footballguy
i went Manning, Ronnie Brown, Gates from the 11 spot in a league drafting in July.
the Cameron hype was a polar opposite at that time from today. i fell for it and thought Brown would be the second coming of LT in terms of a reception-generating back. now i'm wishing i had taken steve smith in that round and gambled on RBs in round 4/5
the Cameron hype was a polar opposite at that time from today. i fell for it and thought Brown would be the second coming of LT in terms of a reception-generating back. now i'm wishing i had taken steve smith in that round and gambled on RBs in round 4/5
1-1. Only reason I lost 1st week, is the owner I played had Witten who matched Gates somewhat, and I had Branch- big fat 0, that was the difference.
You may have unlucky weeks where you play someone whose TE goes off and matches Gates, but most weeks- his consistency is going to pull it out for you.
I drafted him like a 2nd WR, got lucky with Edge later in the draft which made up for the high TE pick.
You may have unlucky weeks where you play someone whose TE goes off and matches Gates, but most weeks- his consistency is going to pull it out for you.
I drafted him like a 2nd WR, got lucky with Edge later in the draft which made up for the high TE pick.
AngryGorilla
Footballguy
i took him in the 3rd in a 16 team league. I think in a 16 team format his value through the roof.....i grabbed Lamont Jordan in the 4th...34th RB selected, not bad value there either, imo.
Too hard to measure value of any, concretely...
Too hard to measure value of any, concretely...
Evilhomer3k
Footballguy
I went Henry, Manning, Gates in a 10 teamer. I got Portis in the 4th (drafted at the height of the portis injury). Later I got A Peterson. My recievers are a bit weak with Driver, Santanna Moss, Cotchery, and I Bruce but they aren't too bad. I'm 1-0 right now and, assuming Moss scores 2 points, will be 2-0 after this week. I don't regret taking gates early at all. I do regret taking Manning so early, though. In all my other leagues, I have Romo. Henry, Steve Smith, Gates, Romo would have be pretty good right now.
corpcow
Footballguy
I think THIS year is a great year to grab Gates early because he's the last sure thing in the 4th round. There is proving to be a lot of late-round value at RB and, as always, WR this year... guys like Lamont Jordan, Caddy (if he can stay healthy), Chris Brown, Lendale. There are also a number of guys like Adrian, Edge, etc that I've seen in the 4th. Hell, even Portis fell in one league to the 4th.
I've had Gates three years in a row and always had decent RB's. Now my WR's aren't always that strong, but you can get top #2 WR's and have a good rotation depending on the matchup.This year I have FWP, Benson, and Green as my RB's.My WR's are Edwards, Galloway, Holmes, and S Moss. No legit #1 but WR's that can be productive.
denveredge
Footballguy
I drafted him fifth round and that team is 0-2, but is fourth highest in points out of twelve.
ShadowMaster
Footballguy
Obviosly, you can't just put every Gates owner at 2-0 because it flexes based on the other choices around him, but in TE manadatory leagues he does give owners quite a consistant boost over the other guys scores from the TE slot.
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Restricted
Footballguy
11 Spot. Henry, S. Smith, Gates
Barely got outscored week one but very happy with how the team turned out.
Barely got outscored week one but very happy with how the team turned out.
redman
Footballguy
Gates was part of my Portis strategy, so I drafted, in order, FWP, Gates and Portis. In that league I'm 0-1 (lost by less than a point last week 
) and trailing with an ok shot to win tonight if Portis and McNabb come through for me. My weak spot is WR, but while you won't find another TO starting in the 5th round, you certainly can find 3-4 good WR's to play matchups with.
I agree though. In a TE league Gates has to be in the discussion for MVP. His VBD # is very high.
) and trailing with an ok shot to win tonight if Portis and McNabb come through for me. My weak spot is WR, but while you won't find another TO starting in the 5th round, you certainly can find 3-4 good WR's to play matchups with.I agree though. In a TE league Gates has to be in the discussion for MVP. His VBD # is very high.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
I am more than willing to bet you are dead wrong on this.While he may be the most valuable at his position, people needed to draft the rest of the team and if they reached early in round three for Gates they may have weakened themselves more at other positions.It also depends on who they played - especially yesterday. The 1.01 drafter in one of my redraft leagues started with LT2, Holt and then Gates at 3.01. I crushed him yesterday (without any Bengals).
Yeah, just think how bad of shape you would be in if you got Randy Moss instead....
ScoobyDoo
Footballguy
Shiggy Shaol
Footballguy
Frustrated Gates owner with crappy WR on his roster is offering him for my Marvin Harrison. So tempting. But the reason why I passed on Gates in the 3rd was because I didn't want to get left with question marks at WR.
Those of us that drafted well (and I know it's early) and have good WR depth can now try to trade FOR Gates though.
Those of us that drafted well (and I know it's early) and have good WR depth can now try to trade FOR Gates though.
Doug B
Footballguy
Did the exact same thing in 1 12-teamer ... picking out of the 10 spot. Was able to get Jamal Lewis, Ahman Green, and Chris Brown as RB 2, 3, and 4. WRs are Santana Moss, Lav Coles, Isaac Bruce, Ronald Curry, and Wes Welker.No TDs from my WR corps this week ... and I had Jamal Lewis sitting for Green (d'oh!). But Gates TD and his, Bruces', and Welker's yards helped make up for it. TEs get double points for their receiving yards (20 yds/1 pt for WR; 10 yds/1 pt for TE; no PPR). If Gates gets 1,000 yds receiving, that's equivalent to a 2,000-yd WR.Very much worth a 3rd rounder.
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I have Gates with SJax,Benson,AGreen at rb and Owens,DJAx Holmes,DWilliams at wr I also have Witten as a te but my Qb Is Eli
I'm 1-1 with Sjax struggling so mightily I'm thinking of packaging Gates with Benson and Holmes for Marv Harrison Tony Gonzales and Deuce!! I think this is a good trade but you guys are making me rethink my proposal
As far as being mvp I don't know I played the 1.1 player yesterday he has Moss,Andre Johnson,Tomlinson and Carlson Palmer Needless to say I was absolutely destroyed!!
I'm 1-1 with Sjax struggling so mightily I'm thinking of packaging Gates with Benson and Holmes for Marv Harrison Tony Gonzales and Deuce!! I think this is a good trade but you guys are making me rethink my proposal
As far as being mvp I don't know I played the 1.1 player yesterday he has Moss,Andre Johnson,Tomlinson and Carlson Palmer Needless to say I was absolutely destroyed!!
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CrossEyed
Footballguy
I'm 1-1 because my QBs (start 2) have stunk up the joint so far. I missed the QB run and ended up with Rivers, Losman and Culpepper. I think over the season having Gates, Wayne, Housh, Branch, Cotchery, Parker, and ADP will make up for it, but playing against Palmer in week 2 certainly showed me how a stud QB on your roster is a good thing.
az_prof
Footballguy
I have Gates and he is great, but I am 0-2. He gives you a 10 point advantage over the other team's TE, but he isn't quite as helpful as having the top RB in the game. LT last year or LJ the year before can literally carry your team: a TE can't do that. He isn't going to put up 30-40 points too often. Most of the time it is 15-20. He can be a secondary piece of the puzzle, but not the primary one.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
at this point, I am wishing I took him at #2 instead of SJax 
I totaly agree have you considered trading him??
CalBear
Footballguy
Of course they've weakened themselves at other positions; any time you take a player at one position, you weaken yourself at other positions. The way to measure how much you've weakened yourself is VBD, and by VBD, Gates is obviously better than pretty much anything else available in the third round.
redman
Footballguy
W1cked
Footballguy
I have him in zero leagues. The one league I had him last year I didn't think he did enough on a consistent basis to warrant drafting him that high. Leagues I am in that use the TE teams are0-21-12-02-01-11-17-5 with GatesMy teams without Gates in the same leagues 11-1. With Steve Smith on 5 of the six teams.
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BeachBums
Footballguy
I took Gates in the 3rd and I'm 2-0. Neither of the games have been close. I was worried about RB2 after Lynch had such a crappy pre-season, but I'm pretty happy with how that's worked out.IMO, Gates in the SD offense is the most predictable players in FF. He's good for at least 3-4 points over your competitor's TE. But, just like anything else in FF, it takes a lot of luck and a good resources like this site to put together a decent team with Gates in the 3rd.
Papa Schnay
Footballguy
I'd bet that those who drafted the #1 WR and grabbed Winslow later are doing better than these Gates owners so far.
In my league, there's 1 point of seperation between the two so far.
In my league, there's 1 point of seperation between the two so far.
Gates is on par with WRs like Owens, Harrison, and Smith every year. Yet I got him in the 3rd.
CalBear
Footballguy
I'd bet that those who drafted Gates and grabbed Randy Moss and Lamont Jordan later are doing even better!You're cherry-picking.
fightingillini
Footballguy
I was a little worried about taking Gates in Round 3, but it's paying off. After going RB-RB in the first two rounds, there was a large run of WRs/stud QBs....so Gates was the best option in round 3. Like others, I have a WR core that doesn't have a WR1, but guys that I rotate in and out (Boldin, Edwards, S Moss, Cotchery)
I have FWP and Henry at RB, and Romo and Roethlisberger at QB (I can start two)
, so my team is looking awfully tough.
Right now the stud WRs are all doing really well, but they'll come back to earth. I always can find WR value later.
If you draft in a competitive league, your team will have a weakness in one area......with mine, it's the WR1 slot. I would assume Gates owners will be weak at the WR1 slot, RB2 slot, or the QB1 slot, since they tried to catch up in RBs and WRs.
I have FWP and Henry at RB, and Romo and Roethlisberger at QB (I can start two)
, so my team is looking awfully tough.Right now the stud WRs are all doing really well, but they'll come back to earth. I always can find WR value later.
If you draft in a competitive league, your team will have a weakness in one area......with mine, it's the WR1 slot. I would assume Gates owners will be weak at the WR1 slot, RB2 slot, or the QB1 slot, since they tried to catch up in RBs and WRs.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Todd Heap - almost as valuable in PPR leagues and I didn't have to sacrifice a 3rd round RB or WR to get him.
RedRaiders
Mr. +EV
I'm 2-0 with Kellen Winslow - 4 rounds after Gates went in TE required league.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
1-1 with Gates at 4.01 (SJax and Parker were protects, Housh at 3.10, Rivers and Caddy at the 5/6 turn)
Right now I'm very happy with the pick (I was regretting not getting Peterson soon after the draft), I've typically been burned on the early TE in the past, but so far so good.
-QG
Right now I'm very happy with the pick (I was regretting not getting Peterson soon after the draft), I've typically been burned on the early TE in the past, but so far so good.
-QG
2-0 in my PPR pay league and it's been close both times.
My team:
QB: Rivers, Cutler
RB: Addai, R. Brown, D. Foster, C. Brown
WR: A. Johnson, Boldin, Branch, Wilford, Hester
TE: Gates, Miller
D/ST: Carolina
K: Graham
My main weakness has been at RB2 as our league has both a RB/WR flex and WR/TE flex. Gates is gold in any PPR league.
My team:
QB: Rivers, Cutler
RB: Addai, R. Brown, D. Foster, C. Brown
WR: A. Johnson, Boldin, Branch, Wilford, Hester
TE: Gates, Miller
D/ST: Carolina
K: Graham
My main weakness has been at RB2 as our league has both a RB/WR flex and WR/TE flex. Gates is gold in any PPR league.
CalBear
Footballguy
Or, you'll take Larry Fitzgerald in the third and Alge Crumpler 6-7 rounds later. Once again, cherry-picking.
stevegamer
Footballguy
Going to be 0-2 with Gates after tonight - I have a shot, but my lead will evaporate as I have Reggie Brown facing McNabb/Westbrook.
I'm facing teams with the "players from nowhere":
Week 1: I faced Ronald Curry & the Minny D.
Week 2: I faced Galloway & Derrick Ward.
When you keep running up against top 1-2 in points against it doesn't matter how you draft in a head-to-head league.
I'm facing teams with the "players from nowhere":
Week 1: I faced Ronald Curry & the Minny D.
Week 2: I faced Galloway & Derrick Ward.
When you keep running up against top 1-2 in points against it doesn't matter how you draft in a head-to-head league.
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