Antonio Pittman (1 Viewer)

[GroveDiesel]

I really like the kid. I'm an OSU fan so perhaps that clouds my judgement, but he has great speed, gets upfield quickly instead of dancing behind the line, makes quick moves and reads the holes really well. IMO, he's underated and if the Bills can't get Peterson I hope that they wait until the 2nd round and end up with Pittman.

He's not really a bruiser, but he keeps his pads low and can squirt through small holes in close yardage.

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[JohnnyU]

Location, Location, Location

 

[AtomicDogg97]

I am a huge Buckeyes fan but I don't see him being anything more than a solid backup. He just isn't explosive enough of a runner.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I am a huge Buckeyes fan but I don't see him being anything more than a solid backup. He just isn't explosive enough of a runner.

Not explosive? I'd say his explosiveness is his biggest asset.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

That's the video I'm using for the Break Down the Tape feature I'm doing. It'll be right after I finish a quick Michael Bush one.

 

[Biabreakable]

The clip of Pittman mainly shows how pathetic college defenders are at tackling and taking good angles to the ball.

I do like Pittman though more so than my initial impressions of him were. He has kind of grown on me. I don't think he has a lot of power or tackle breaking ability but he does have good agility and speed as well as some decent vision for finding the hole. I don't think he will make yards or 1st downs on his own but if he has good blocking he is capable of doing well with it.

He might be more than just a 3rd down Rb in the right situation. He reminds me a bit of Julius Jones. Not quite as powerful or well rounded as Jones but a bit faster than Jones is. He might be able to develop some strength and power to compliment his other skills after a season or so in the NFL if he works hard at it.

 

[fruity pebbles]

The clip of Pittman mainly shows how pathetic college defenders are at tackling and taking good angles to the ball.I do like Pittman though more so than my initial impressions of him were. He has kind of grown on me. I don't think he has a lot of power or tackle breaking ability but he does have good agility and speed as well as some decent vision for finding the hole. I don't think he will make yards or 1st downs on his own but if he has good blocking he is capable of doing well with it.He might be more than just a 3rd down Rb in the right situation. He reminds me a bit of Julius Jones. Not quite as powerful or well rounded as Jones but a bit faster than Jones is. He might be able to develop some strength and power to compliment his other skills after a season or so in the NFL if he works hard at it.

That's who he reminds me of as well. A quicker, weaker Julius Jones.

 

[wannabee]

The clip of Pittman mainly shows how pathetic college defenders are at tackling and taking good angles to the ball.I do like Pittman though more so than my initial impressions of him were. He has kind of grown on me. I don't think he has a lot of power or tackle breaking ability but he does have good agility and speed as well as some decent vision for finding the hole. I don't think he will make yards or 1st downs on his own but if he has good blocking he is capable of doing well with it.He might be more than just a 3rd down Rb in the right situation. He reminds me a bit of Julius Jones. Not quite as powerful or well rounded as Jones but a bit faster than Jones is. He might be able to develop some strength and power to compliment his other skills after a season or so in the NFL if he works hard at it.

The one asset I think Pittman has that Juluis defintely does not have, imo, is good vision. It seems Pittman hits the right hole almost every time.

 

[Family Matters]

I am a huge Buckeyes fan but I don't see him being anything more than a solid backup. He just isn't explosive enough of a runner.

Not explosive? I'd say his explosiveness is his biggest asset.

For whatever reason he always seemed a bit slow. But this last season I realized how fast he was. He showed explosiveness this year that was impressive at times. Another asset is his toughness. He fights hard and runs bigger than he is.With that said, I do not see him as a feature every down back in the NFL. He might be but I'm not expecting great things. As a buckeye fan I hope I'm wrong as I would love to see him succeed. He's a great kid and it might just be a matter of getting in the right system.Just a thought. What if Buffalo signed Brown in as a FA and drafted Pittman. That would be a solid 1-2 scenario that Buff could afford and it might work well. The reason I say this is that Buff appears uninterested in over paying for a feature back. This might be scanario they can live with.

 

[LHUCKS]

Overrated for reasons listed in previous threads...scatback for life.

 

[Obie Wan]

Overrated for reasons listed in previous threads...scatback for life.

Bills would be better off with Booker as their scat back.

 

[Patoons]

Most underrated back in the draft - overshadowed by Ginn/Smith all year

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Overrated for reasons listed in previous threads...scatback for life.

If you have any credibility left here, it's gone. Maybe he's overrated, but a scatback? Do you even know what a scatback is?

 

[Family Matters]

Overrated for reasons listed in previous threads...scatback for life.

If you have any credibility left here, it's gone. Maybe he's overrated, but a scatback? Do you even know what a scatback is?

 

[jme10]

Pittman gained almost 10 lbs prior to the combine and still ran a 4.4. He has the size, speed and strength to make it in the NFL. He also runs with heart (i.e. fights for every inch). I hope he lands in a good situation to showcase his skills.

 

[Ed Wood]

I really like the kid. I'm an OSU fan so perhaps that clouds my judgement, but he has great speed, gets upfield quickly instead of dancing behind the line, makes quick moves and reads the holes really well. IMO, he's underated and if the Bills can't get Peterson I hope that they wait until the 2nd round and end up with Pittman.

He's not really a bruiser, but he keeps his pads low and can squirt through small holes in close yardage.

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After watching, he's got a nice blend of speed and toughness. Can score from 60 or 6 with equal aplomb. Another thing I noticed was he doesnt' go all hyper in the end zone...a little Barry (I'm here because I'm supposed to be here, let's not make a big deal about it) Sanders. Not everytime, of course, but more than your average college tailback...

 

[LHUCKS]

Overrated for reasons listed in previous threads...scatback for life.

If you have any credibility left here, it's gone. Maybe he's overrated, but a scatback? Do you even know what a scatback is?

LMAO at c-boy, trying to question my ff credibility...I forgot more about football last week than you and Family Matters have ever known combined...everybody who has been around here knows that.I've been here for nine years kicking ###...nobody even knows who you are.

 

[Family Matters]

Overrated for reasons listed in previous threads...scatback for life.

If you have any credibility left here, it's gone. Maybe he's overrated, but a scatback? Do you even know what a scatback is?

LMAO at c-boy, trying to question my ff credibility...I forgot more about football last week than you and Family Matters have ever known combined...everybody who has been around here knows that.I've been here for nine years kicking ###...nobody even knows who you are.

So you do admit you forgot football last week?

 

[JohnnyU]

Overrated for reasons listed in previous threads...scatback for life.

If you have any credibility left here, it's gone. Maybe he's overrated, but a scatback? Do you even know what a scatback is?

LMAO at c-boy, trying to question my ff credibility...I forgot more about football last week than you and Family Matters have ever known combined...everybody who has been around here knows that.I've been here for nine years kicking ###...nobody even knows who you are.

Come on LHUCKS, are you demanding respect again? I think you should start a poll to see who knows more about football, you, Construx, or FM.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Overrated for reasons listed in previous threads...scatback for life.

If you have any credibility left here, it's gone. Maybe he's overrated, but a scatback? Do you even know what a scatback is?

LMAO at c-boy, trying to question my ff credibility...I forgot more about football last week than you and Family Matters have ever known combined...everybody who has been around here knows that.I've been here for nine years kicking ###...nobody even knows who you are.

If you think Antonio Pittman is a scat back, then you don't know what a scat back is. And if you don't know what a scat back is, then you don't know much about football.

 

[Patoons]

Nice path this thread has gone down.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Nice path this thread has gone down.

True and I apologize to everyone for falling victim to LHUCKS' baiting. Just like to see honest and accurate discussions here.

 

[Family Matters]

Nice path this thread has gone down.

True and I apologize to everyone for falling victim to LHUCKS' baiting. Just like to see honest and accurate discussions here.

At least we know what else he's good at.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Nice path this thread has gone down.

True and I apologize to everyone for falling victim to LHUCKS' baiting. Just like to see honest and accurate discussions here.

At least we know what else he's good at.

lol, really. I should just not respond, but I really hate the idea of someone who doesn't follow college football reading that and thinking Pittman is like a scat back. Guess I shouldn't really care.

 

[Native]

He can have a Rudi Johnson kind of career in the NFL. And by that I mean an ultra-productive RB from a major college program that was overlooked going into the draft - but a guy that has the tools to shine in the pros. Hes certainly tough enough. The key of course is to fall into the right situation.

 

[LHUCKS]

Nice path this thread has gone down.

True and I apologize to everyone for falling victim to LHUCKS' baiting.

I don't think you're getting it...A) I wasn't baitingB) I don't think he'll ever be an everydown back in the NFLC) I've supported this assertion with thoughts in other threadsApologies if that's not good enough for you, unfortunately for you I don't care. I usually don't respond to negative posts, especially when I did nothing to provoke them, but I expected more out of you Construx.

 

[wannabee]

Nice path this thread has gone down.

True and I apologize to everyone for falling victim to LHUCKS' baiting.

I don't think you're getting it...A) I wasn't baitingB) I don't think he'll ever be an everydown back in the NFLC) I've supported this assertion with thoughts in other threadsApologies if that's not good enough for you, unfortunately for you I don't care. I usually don't respond to negative posts, especially when I did nothing to provoke them, but I expected more out of you Construx.

Hey LHUCKS, for those of use who do not get a chance to read every post in every thread, would you summarize why you do not like Pittman's future? From memory, the only thinkg I remember is you like Brandon Jackson better.

 

[NorrisB]

Nice path this thread has gone down.

True and I apologize to everyone for falling victim to LHUCKS' baiting.

I don't think you're getting it...A) I wasn't baitingB) I don't think he'll ever be an everydown back in the NFLC) I've supported this assertion with thoughts in other threadsApologies if that's not good enough for you, unfortunately for you I don't care. I usually don't respond to negative posts, especially when I did nothing to provoke them, but I expected more out of you Construx.

He's just bitter he's not going to get out of the guppie pond in Survivor Leagues

 

[LHUCKS]

Hey LHUCKS, for those of use who do not get a chance to read every post in every thread, would you summarize why you do not like Pittman's future? From memory, the only thinkg I remember is you like Brandon Jackson better.

a) sizeb) an NFL caliber back would have had a more explosive year in that offense against the relatively outmatched competitionc) Average open field moves, vision and quickness by NFL standardsThis kid is marginal. Everything I've seen with my eyes tells me that, but if you want to pimp him by all means pimp him. I'm simply giving my opinion that he's a situational player at best in the NFL.Kevin Faulk as an example was twice the player that Pittman was in college, and I suspect a much better NFL player after it is all said and done.

 

[LHUCKS]

I really don't see how anyone could place him in the Scat Back catagory myself.

Size, size and size...I see him as more of a Kevin Faulk type player in the NFL.If he had sick ability like Reggie Bush, maybe he'd be more of an impact player at the next level, but he doesn't so he most likely wont.For those of you comparing him to Rudi...he's much smaller than Rudi...Rudi weighs 220.Pittman shouldered a lot of carries in college so that is a testament to his toughness but his YPC just wont be there to justify a Rudi Johnson amount of touches.

 

[LHUCKS]

Outside of the Big10 homers, did anybody really watch Pittman against tough competition and say to themselves, "wow, this kid is going to be a player at the next level"??

 

[Patoons]

I really don't see how anyone could place him in the Scat Back catagory myself.

Size, size and size...I see him as more of a Kevin Faulk type player in the NFL.If he had sick ability like Reggie Bush, maybe he'd be more of an impact player at the next level, but he doesn't so he most likely wont.For those of you comparing him to Rudi...he's much smaller than Rudi...Rudi weighs 220.Pittman shouldered a lot of carries in college so that is a testament to his toughness but his YPC just wont be there to justify a Rudi Johnson amount of touches.

Who's to say he won't put on 10 more pds with an NFL trainer? He's 10 pds less and same height (within 1 inch) as the following players:

Curtis MartinClinton PortisJulius JonesEmmitt Smith

Obviously there are also smaller backs who are not successful and I am not sure what these guys entered the NFL at weight wise (I will check a bit later - don't have enough time at the moment), but his size is not going to hinder him. I don't see why he won't put on some pds of muscle at the next level. He's proven that he's got the speed and IMO he's got solid vision based on the games I've seen this season (didn't watch all that much OSU last season) and is a determined runner who does not go down on first contact.He has had limited experience at getting the ball in the flat, some I'm not sure how he is compared to Faulk at this point.Blocking is likely an issue though.

 

[EBF]

I don't see size being a problem. He's 5'10" and 207 pounds. That puts him in the same ballpark as Tiki Barber, Clinton Portis, Reggie Bush, Maurice Drew, Priest Holmes, Curtis Martin, and Julius Jones. 10 more pounds would be ideal, but 207 is plenty heavy for a featured back.

The real issue for me is that Pittman just doesn't do anything exceptionally well. He's got a good build and he performed pretty well in all of the drills at the combine, but he just doesn't stand out on the field like you'd expect a future NFL starting RB to stand out.

He's a bit of an enigma to me. I expect him to be drafted pretty high (2nd-3rd round and probably the 3rd or 4th RB taken), but I don't know if he's more than a backup at the next level.

He's my RB4 right now after Peterson, Lynch, and Irons. I view him as a fringe guy who isn't talented enough to excel everywhere, but is probably talented enough to be an adequate starter on certain teams. He reminds me a little bit of Chester Taylor and Frank Gore. He tested better than Gore at the combine, but he's not as bulky and strong.

 

[Patoons]

Outside of the Big10 homers, did anybody really watch Pittman against tough competition and say to themselves, "wow, this kid is going to be a player at the next level"??

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I really don't see how anyone could place him in the Scat Back catagory myself.

Size, size and size...I see him as more of a Kevin Faulk type player in the NFL.If he had sick ability like Reggie Bush, maybe he'd be more of an impact player at the next level, but he doesn't so he most likely wont.For those of you comparing him to Rudi...he's much smaller than Rudi...Rudi weighs 220.Pittman shouldered a lot of carries in college so that is a testament to his toughness but his YPC just wont be there to justify a Rudi Johnson amount of touches.

What's wrong with his size? He's the same general height and weight as several starting RBs. Edit: EBF beat me to it. Can you explain what you don't like about his size LHUCKS?

 

[LHUCKS]

I don't see size being a problem. He's 5'10" and 207 pounds. That puts him in the same ballpark as Tiki Barber, Clinton Portis, Reggie Bush, Maurice Drew, Priest Holmes, Curtis Martin, and Julius Jones.

Almost all of those backs looked more explosive to me coming out of college.(don't remember a lot about Priest and I wasn't very high on Julius Jones)

10 more pounds would be ideal, but 207 is plenty heavy for a featured back.

Not for a runner with Pittman's marginal skillset. See your next point.

The real issue for me is that Pittman just doesn't do anything exceptionally well. He's got a good build and he performed pretty well in all of the drills at the combine, but he just doesn't stand out on the field like you'd expect a future NFL starting RB to stand out.

This is my point, although I put relatively little stock in the combine, and much more stock into what I see on the field...thanks to excessive TV coverage for Ohio State I pretty much saw every one of their games.

He's a bit of an enigma to me. I expect him to be drafted pretty high (2nd-3rd round and probably the 3rd or 4th RB taken), but I don't know if he's more than a backup at the next level.

Exactly, I don't know why he's projected to be first day pick when he really hasn't shown IMHO that he can be more than a backup or RBBC contributor...that's where my overrated thoughts start coming into play.

He's my RB4 right now after Peterson, Lynch, and Irons. I view him as a fringe guy who isn't talented enough to excel everywhere, but is probably talented enough to be an adequate starter on certain teams. He reminds me a little bit of Chester Taylor and Frank Gore. He tested better than Gore at the combine, but he's not as bulky and strong.

Gore was a legend in college and high school and by many accounts was better than McGahee when both played together so I don't agree with your Gore statement. I can definitely see the Chester Taylor comparison. He can definitely find success in the NFL...hell, even Mike Bell(who sucked at UofA) found marginal success. I just wouldn't draft him on the first day and I wouldn't rank him at RB#4...I'd rather take a chance on a less proven back like Brandon Jackson who appears to have much more upside.

 

[EBF]

I don't see size being a problem. He's 5'10" and 207 pounds. That puts him in the same ballpark as Tiki Barber, Clinton Portis, Reggie Bush, Maurice Drew, Priest Holmes, Curtis Martin, and Julius Jones.

Almost all of those backs looked more explosive to me coming out of college.(don't remember a lot about Priest and I wasn't very high on Julius Jones)

10 more pounds would be ideal, but 207 is plenty heavy for a featured back.

Not for a runner with Pittman's marginal skillset. See your next point.

The real issue for me is that Pittman just doesn't do anything exceptionally well. He's got a good build and he performed pretty well in all of the drills at the combine, but he just doesn't stand out on the field like you'd expect a future NFL starting RB to stand out.

This is my point, although I put relatively little stock in the combine, and much more stock into what I see on the field...thanks to excessive TV coverage for Ohio State I pretty much saw every one of their games.

He's a bit of an enigma to me. I expect him to be drafted pretty high (2nd-3rd round and probably the 3rd or 4th RB taken), but I don't know if he's more than a backup at the next level.

Exactly, I don't know why he's projected to be first day pick when he really hasn't shown IMHO that he can be more than a backup or RBBC contributor...that's where my overrated thoughts start coming into play.

He's my RB4 right now after Peterson, Lynch, and Irons. I view him as a fringe guy who isn't talented enough to excel everywhere, but is probably talented enough to be an adequate starter on certain teams. He reminds me a little bit of Chester Taylor and Frank Gore. He tested better than Gore at the combine, but he's not as bulky and strong.

Gore was a legend in college and high school and by many accounts was better than McGahee when both played together so I don't agree with your Gore statement. I can definitely see the Chester Taylor comparison. He can definitely find success in the NFL...hell, even Mike Bell(who sucked at UofA) found marginal success. I just wouldn't draft him on the first day and I wouldn't rank him at RB#4...I'd rather take a chance on a less proven back like Brandon Jackson who appears to have much more upside.

I think you also have to realize how weak this RB class is. Who would you put above him? I know you like Brandon Jackson, but he also has his warts. Irons, Bush, Leonard, Hunt, and Booker are all flawed in one way or another. At worst, I see Pittman as the RB5 in this class if only because the other guys are so bad. Leonard is a fullback. Bush is too big. Hunt is too slow. Booker is too small. That leaves only Irons and Jackson as reasonable competition for the RB3 spot.

 

[LHUCKS]

I really don't see how anyone could place him in the Scat Back catagory myself.

Size, size and size...I see him as more of a Kevin Faulk type player in the NFL.If he had sick ability like Reggie Bush, maybe he'd be more of an impact player at the next level, but he doesn't so he most likely wont.For those of you comparing him to Rudi...he's much smaller than Rudi...Rudi weighs 220.Pittman shouldered a lot of carries in college so that is a testament to his toughness but his YPC just wont be there to justify a Rudi Johnson amount of touches.

What's wrong with his size? He's the same general height and weight as several starting RBs. Edit: EBF beat me to it. Can you explain what you don't like about his size LHUCKS?

For a RB of his limited ability he doesn't have enough size IMHO. So I guess a more accurate answer is that he doesn't have the right size/ability ratibviously Reggie Bush is small, but his sick ability makes up for that, thus it's not as much of a concern.

 

[LHUCKS]

I think you also have to realize how weak this RB class is.

That's a good point...I don't pretend to have seen an extensive amount of game footage on all of the backs...just some of them...I go out of my way to watch the backs that are hyped as NFL caliber in the preseason.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I really don't see how anyone could place him in the Scat Back catagory myself.

Size, size and size...I see him as more of a Kevin Faulk type player in the NFL.If he had sick ability like Reggie Bush, maybe he'd be more of an impact player at the next level, but he doesn't so he most likely wont.For those of you comparing him to Rudi...he's much smaller than Rudi...Rudi weighs 220.Pittman shouldered a lot of carries in college so that is a testament to his toughness but his YPC just wont be there to justify a Rudi Johnson amount of touches.

What's wrong with his size? He's the same general height and weight as several starting RBs. Edit: EBF beat me to it. Can you explain what you don't like about his size LHUCKS?

For a RB of his limited ability he doesn't have enough size IMHO. So I guess a more accurate answer is that he doesn't have the right size/ability ratibviously Reggie Bush is small, but his sick ability makes up for that, thus it's not as much of a concern.

Maybe, but I don't think Kevin Faulk is a good comparison. He's 5'8", 202, so about 3 inches shorter and 5 pounds lighter than Pittman. And he's been in the NFL for awhile, so he's probably as "bulked up" as he's going to get. But Pittman will likely add some pounds when he gets into an NFL team's workout program. If you really think he compares with Faulk, I can see your scat back comment. I just don't see it.

 

[beto]

But Pittman will likely add some pounds when he gets into an NFL team's workout program. If you really think he compares with Faulk, I can see your scat back comment. I just don't see it.

Minor nit-pickAre NFL team's workout programs drastically different than what Pittman had at Ohio State?

 

[Patoons]

For a RB of his limited ability he doesn't have enough size IMHO. So I guess a more accurate answer is that he doesn't have the right size/ability ratibviously Reggie Bush is small, but his sick ability makes up for that, thus it's not as much of a concern.

I see the difference with Bush, Westy, etc. but how about with Martin, Portis, etc?These guys have similar styles imo. I think his size is fine. If you want to knock him elsewhere (i.e. blocking, receiving ability, etc.), I can see that, but I don't know the size is the issue. I know Scott Wright doesn't believe he has the "NFL bulk" to carry an NFL every down back load as well, but I don't think that means he won't be successful in a two-back system.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

But Pittman will likely add some pounds when he gets into an NFL team's workout program. If you really think he compares with Faulk, I can see your scat back comment. I just don't see it.

Minor nit-pickAre NFL team's workout programs drastically different than what Pittman had at Ohio State?

LOL, I was thinking about putting in something about OSU probably having a great workout program already. Great minds think alike. But he still can now workout more without those pesky classes. Maybe it won't make a difference.

 

[NorrisB]

good straight line explosiveness, very poor open field running, lacks ideal size

Pretty much a less fast M. Bennett. Nothing wrong with M. Bennett, Bennett had a nice year and put up good numbers, he would have had a pretty nice career if not for injury porblems.

 

[Family Matters]

But Pittman will likely add some pounds when he gets into an NFL team's workout program. If you really think he compares with Faulk, I can see your scat back comment. I just don't see it.

Minor nit-pickAre NFL team's workout programs drastically different than what Pittman had at Ohio State?

LOL, I was thinking about putting in something about OSU probably having a great workout program already. Great minds think alike. But he still can now workout more without those pesky classes. Maybe it won't make a difference.

Let's not forget he's just a Jr. He's a year younger and that year "can" make a big difference in muscle and pounds.

 

[Family Matters]

Outside of the Big10 homers, did anybody really watch Pittman against tough competition and say to themselves, "wow, this kid is going to be a player at the next level"??

I respect you view, I just do not agree. I again think alot will depend on the team he ends up with. I guess it's a wait and see situation.

I like the way you said that. Repsecting one's ideas are easy when they are backed up with reasons for liking or disliking a player. Posting comments that "sound" like PAC 10 homerism and BIG TEN bashing will usually draw the ire of many. And not in a respectful way.As for LHUCKS, personally I like most of his posts and threads. He puts alot of time and thought into most of what he says. But sometimes his BIG TEN/OSU bashing is over the top. Most likely caused by jealousy. It must suck not being an OSU fan.

 

[LHUCKS]

But sometimes his BIG TEN/OSU bashing is over the top. Most likely caused by jealousy. It must suck not being an OSU fan.

A) You don't see me bashing Ginn Jr....he's the real deal Holyfield. I only bash overhyped players, because of the OSU name and hype they just happen to have more than their fair share. B) Trust me, if you went to the UofAz you would understand why the inclination of being jealous of OSU is simply ridiculous. Weather is nicer, more to do, girls are hotter, sweet West Coast network....don't step to this.

 

[Keysersoze666]

Dear LHUCKS:

I don't post here as often as I do so I have no street cred (especially compared to YOU).

I also question Pittman's chances and abilities at the next level.

I live in Ohio and grew up as an Ohio State fan.

I have been both right and wrong about Buckeye players who make it at the next level, so I won't try to be a conference "expert" (like you, Mr. Pac-10).

However, I READ your posts because you do make good points, and I often agree with you.

THEN I READ this:

(LMAO at c-boy, trying to question my ff credibility...I forgot more about football last week than you and Family Matters have ever known combined...everybody who has been around here knows that.)

Guess what? I respect their opinions as well. I also don't see them acting out like you just did. I don't give a RAT's ### that you've been here for X amount of time, if time was the determing factor, I'd still be drafting Eddie George and Curtis Martin. Anyone I've ever known that had REAL credibility, never gave a rat's ### about what others thought of it. They also understand that their OWN credibility is NOT tied to that of others, other people CAN BE and ARE smart. Them being smart does not LOWER your IQ.

Display your knowledge and let others benefit from it. Let those same "others" decide how much you've forgotten about football in any given time-frame. STOP acting like T.O OFF the field (Pay attention me! Pay attention to me!) and act like T.O. performs ON the Field.

KEEP writing your analysis of players ... you are GOOD at it. Stop acting like you are "worthy" of T.O.-like adoration. See, people like what you say most of time, you just often polute your own opinion with your own attitude.

Respectfully,

ME.

 

[rgmnchr]

But sometimes his BIG TEN/OSU bashing is over the top. Most likely caused by jealousy. It must suck not being an OSU fan.

A) You don't see me bashing Ginn Jr....he's the real deal Holyfield. I only bash overhyped players, because of the OSU name and hype they just happen to have more than their fair share. B) Trust me, if you went to the UofAz you would understand why the inclination of being jealous of OSU is simply ridiculous. Weather is nicer, more to do, girls are hotter, sweet West Coast network....don't step to this.

....and what has UofAZ done in the world of college football lately?

 

[LHUCKS]

But sometimes his BIG TEN/OSU bashing is over the top. Most likely caused by jealousy. It must suck not being an OSU fan.

A) You don't see me bashing Ginn Jr....he's the real deal Holyfield. I only bash overhyped players, because of the OSU name and hype they just happen to have more than their fair share. B) Trust me, if you went to the UofAz you would understand why the inclination of being jealous of OSU is simply ridiculous. Weather is nicer, more to do, girls are hotter, sweet West Coast network....don't step to this.

....and what has UofAZ done in the world of college football lately?

We're rebuilding.