mr. furley
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guy gonna be nursing this ankle injury for a while? is this one of those that keeps him from playing through the FF playoffs?
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guy gonna be nursing this ankle injury for a while? is this one of those that keeps him from playing through the FF playoffs?
mr. furley
Footballguy
got em both on the roster
i'm only playing 1 WR at a time however (no PPR) so i don't want to play the wrong one.
i'm only playing 1 WR at a time however (no PPR) so i don't want to play the wrong one.
Steelnation
Footballguy
I feel ya Mr. F....I am in the same perdiciment this weekend and the wrong move could be devastating.....
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
I personally don't think it's going to "keep him from playing", considering he was close one week following the injury. That doesn't mean it won't hamper his production, though.
mr. furley
Footballguy
is this shtick?I personally don't think it's going to "keep him from playing", considering he was close one week following the injury. That doesn't mean it won't hamper his production, though.
spork
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If coston comes back, does Henderson get the bench.... or has he earned some playing time with his performance lately?
FBG comments in this week's "UPGRADES"
(a great weekly article that alone is worth subscribing)
While Marques Colston should be back for week 13 (he was very close to playing in week 12 according to HC Sean Payton), we still like Henderson’s prospects fort he remainder of the season. This offense is obviously built around the arm of Drew Brees, and he is absolutely on fire right now (1954 yards and 11 TDs in his last five games). Even if Henderson is relegated to WR3 status behind Colston and Joe Horn, there should be enough game to go around.
I tend to agree... he looked awesome this week.
FBG comments in this week's "UPGRADES"
(a great weekly article that alone is worth subscribing)
While Marques Colston should be back for week 13 (he was very close to playing in week 12 according to HC Sean Payton), we still like Henderson’s prospects fort he remainder of the season. This offense is obviously built around the arm of Drew Brees, and he is absolutely on fire right now (1954 yards and 11 TDs in his last five games). Even if Henderson is relegated to WR3 status behind Colston and Joe Horn, there should be enough game to go around.
I tend to agree... he looked awesome this week.
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ATC1
Footballguy
Colston gets most of his yards in crossing patterns and gets most of his yardage after the catch. He is hard to bring down and has good moves and is quick for a big guy. IMO Henderson will be the deep threat. He gets great seperation. He also hang on to the ball yesterday, so they may use him in the 3 WR sets. The problem is with Duece and Henderson playing so well, is the role for Bush diminishing?
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shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
No, why?is this shtick?I personally don't think it's going to "keep him from playing", considering he was close one week following the injury. That doesn't mean it won't hamper his production, though.
that could be THE QUESTION of the week right there, wish I knew the answer.
a follow-up could be... against the Niners, would it be a worthwhile play to start them both?? Horn and Bush almost seem like options 3 & 4 recently, and with the way Brees is tossing the rock lately, i'd want all the pts from N.O. receivers i can get my paws on...
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I didn't even know Bush was still playing.
mr. furley
Footballguy
wasn't sure if FFAshuke was the same as SPshuke or it was allNo, why?is this shtick?I personally don't think it's going to "keep him from playing", considering he was close one week following the injury. That doesn't mean it won't hamper his production, though.
shuke
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Sidewinder
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As stated above, they were real close to activating Colston at Atlanta. On his weekly radio show last night, Payton talked a good bit about how they worked him hard pre-game, and really considered playing him. In the end, they decided against it because they felt there was risk in turning it into something chronic that would bother Colston the remainder of the year. Payton finished by saying he was confident they'd have him Sunday vs SF.
Assuming Colston does play this week, and gets close to his normal number of snaps, I'm not really sure what to expect out of Henderson. In his last two games as the 3rd WR, he's gone 3-111 and 2 TDs at Tampa, then hung a goose egg at Pittsburgh.
One interesting stat from the Atlanta game is how Brees spread the ball around. No player had more than 5 targets, but 8 players had at least 3 targets (Horn/Henderson: 5, Bush/Campbell: 4, Copper/McAllister/Karney/Miller: 3). Be interesting to see if this is a trend.
Assuming Colston does play this week, and gets close to his normal number of snaps, I'm not really sure what to expect out of Henderson. In his last two games as the 3rd WR, he's gone 3-111 and 2 TDs at Tampa, then hung a goose egg at Pittsburgh.
One interesting stat from the Atlanta game is how Brees spread the ball around. No player had more than 5 targets, but 8 players had at least 3 targets (Horn/Henderson: 5, Bush/Campbell: 4, Copper/McAllister/Karney/Miller: 3). Be interesting to see if this is a trend.
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mr. furley
Footballguy
thanks sidewinder 
NFL Sunday Ticket
Footballguy
based on how close he was on sunday, i think he will be close to 100% this week. my only worry at this point is if he will be the #1 target. seems like so many options stepping up when called upon. hopefully he doesnt end up like a NE wr.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
You lost me.wasn't sure if FFAshuke was the same as SPshuke or it was allNo, why?is this shtick?I personally don't think it's going to "keep him from playing", considering he was close one week following the injury. That doesn't mean it won't hamper his production, though.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
3-wide = Saints staple. I predict both will be good plays from here on out, and that Colston will return this week, play, but have fewer plays called for him that normal.Just keep in mind that, even though Reggie Bush is still the most targeted Saint, Brees' record performance last week did not incorporate much of Bush. I think there will be plenty of passes to go around, but that there are too many mouths to feed in New Orleans. There's a good chance that the "top" Saints receiver each week will be a little bit unpredictable.
Sidewinder
Footballguy
Pretty much agree with that, though I don't expect to see many more games where Brees throws upwards of 50 passes like the Pittsburgh and Cincy games. Alot of talk around here (meaning New Orleans) about a re-committment to the running game and how they've been "saving" McAllister for the stretch run. Unless a game gets out of hand early, I fully expect Deuce to see 18 to 22 carries a game from here out.
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saintfool
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man, i hope you are right. the running game is the key to their success down the stretch and, while not huge last week, gave me a lot of hope. healthy players down the stretch - colston, reggie, conwell even - make it real difficult for defenses to devise schemes to shutdown specific players. that brees has been spreading the ball around with such success must keep opposing team DC's and head coaches up late.Sidewinder said:
diesel7982
Footballguy
Thats a beautiful sentiment, but with their schedule, and the way their defense is playing, it won't happen.Sidewinder said:
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Even though he is hobbled, and even though Reggie Bush has been more targeted than Colston in most of the team's games this year?I don't disagree with you - Colston's KILLED IT in target numbers the last three weeks he played - but I think a hobbled Colston is not necessarily Brees' most targeted receiver the next couple of games.
The Hank
Footballguy
I agree, it looks to me like a high risk/high reward type deal... im in a real bind!
According to Will Carrol ESPN COlston was ready to go last week , was able to cut and was fine but payton held him out a game to be sure he was ready for the stretch run. Here is the text from today. Link is there but not sure if you can get it if you dont pay for it. He sounds good to go. Keep an eye on the practice updates.
http://insider.espn.go.com/fantasy/footbal...page=injuries29
The decision to hold Marques Colston out of Sunday's game was purely Sean Payton's. Colston came out and warmed up, making cuts and running patterns, but there was something Payton saw that he didn't like. While cleared to play, Payton decided he'd rather hold Colston out and make sure his rookie stud was healthy for the stretch run. Devery Henderson was a great fill-in and his emergence, along with Colston, has given Drew Brees four top targets (Colston, Henderson, Joe Horn and Reggie Bush). Colston should be back for next week's game, but keep your eyes on the practice reports to be sure he's back to his ROY levels.
http://insider.espn.go.com/fantasy/footbal...page=injuries29
The decision to hold Marques Colston out of Sunday's game was purely Sean Payton's. Colston came out and warmed up, making cuts and running patterns, but there was something Payton saw that he didn't like. While cleared to play, Payton decided he'd rather hold Colston out and make sure his rookie stud was healthy for the stretch run. Devery Henderson was a great fill-in and his emergence, along with Colston, has given Drew Brees four top targets (Colston, Henderson, Joe Horn and Reggie Bush). Colston should be back for next week's game, but keep your eyes on the practice reports to be sure he's back to his ROY levels.
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Ditka is God
Footballguy
I went to the game on Sunday and on the drive to the Dome I was listening to the pre-game report. Colston was going through his pre-game warm-ups and they said Colston was running very well straight ahead, but wasn't able to make his cuts at full speed. They projected he would play, but only for a dozen or so plays. I suspect he'll be good to go this Sunday.
This gentleman is right on. Although I would liken him to a CIN/IND/SEA WR-type player. What makes these offenses so good is the balance. So many ways to hurt you. With the way Brees is playing, add in Bush (he adds a dimension if nothing else), McAllister (still serviceable), Horn, Colston, Henderson, Copper, et al, this team has a ton of ways to beat you. Colston is this year's Gates. What do they both have in common? Drew Brees slinging the rock. Both are TE's right?
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
No question Henderson has made the most of his opportunities. He is a decent receiver with wheels, hands, and heart, and deserves playing time in the Saints' 3-wide sets. But Colston is a physical beast. Almost a half-foot taller and 50 pounds heavier than Henderson. The guy was a near lock on ROY before he was injured. You do not minimize the impact this guy has had on the field by limiting his targets in favor of the latest flavor. Colston will be right back into the heart of the Saints' downfield gameplan.
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
I've been looking but have not found anything yet about Saints practice yesterday. Perhaps there will be somthing later today.
San Francisco's cornerbacks Spencer and Harris have played pretty well this year. I think having the more physical Colston in the lineup will give the Saints more of a mismatch than what Henderson offers against them. Then Henderson or Horn can draw coverage from the nickle back.
I expect that to be what they Saints will be looking to do as long as Colston is healthy enough and he should be as he probobly could have played against the Falcons and was only rested as a precaution. Reports from practice will tell us more once released.
San Francisco's cornerbacks Spencer and Harris have played pretty well this year. I think having the more physical Colston in the lineup will give the Saints more of a mismatch than what Henderson offers against them. Then Henderson or Horn can draw coverage from the nickle back.
I expect that to be what they Saints will be looking to do as long as Colston is healthy enough and he should be as he probobly could have played against the Falcons and was only rested as a precaution. Reports from practice will tell us more once released.
mr. furley
Footballguy
stupid Thursday games. gdb NFL teams not declaring players until game time. don't they have any sympathy for the neurotic FF owners?
Sidewinder
Footballguy
vs SFat Dal
vs Wash
at NYG
vs Car
Other than Dallas, just would you see the Saints having to throw 50 times against ?
mr. furley
Footballguy
post-practice updates?
From Rotoworld:Marques Colston (questionable, ankle) and Joe Horn (questionable, groin) both missed at least a portion of practice Wednesday.Both players have an excellent matchup this week against the 49ers, who may be without cornerback Shawntae Spencer (questionable, ankle). Horn's injury is an old one, as it kept him out of Weeks 9 and 10, though no aggravation was reported. Colston's status for this week is uncertain.Source: neworleanssaints.commr. furley said:
mr. furley
Footballguy
well, that seals it then. i'm leaving Henderson in and sitting Colston.
(lineups have to be set by tonight)
(lineups have to be set by tonight)
Cowtippers
Footballguy
I realize there is a Thursday night game - BUT - having to SET line-ups by Wednesday night!?!!!? That's insane!
I don't know, I have a feeling he will play this week. I use him as my TE (amazingly lucky that Yahoo bungled that one) and my other TE is Heap who plays tomorrow night. I have Colston penciled in as my TE right now and I think I'm sticking with it. Just a hunch. By the way, I have to win this week or I'm done, so this is a decision I haven't taken lightly.
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Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Couldn't you leave Heap as your TE and bump a different spot if Colston's able to go?What if Colston's a scratch on Sat -you have no TE that week, right?
i think he is less than 150 yards away with 5 to go (or 4 if he can't go this week)...that was a good week for him before, so even if he is somewhat hobbled, unless he has a bad setback & aggravates it, i think 1,100+ is doable...i think he was leading NFL & ALL WRs in receiving yards, not just rookies, before sprained ankle... since it happened early & he DNP sunday, he has effectively missed two games, so far...
Great point. I have considered that too, but after hearing the weather for the game, I think that's risky as well. I have CJ and Rudi going tomorrow night, if it turns out to be a really nasty night, I don't want to have three positions in jeopardy of sub-par performances due to weather. If worse comes to worst, I might be able to grab someone off the waiver wire to give me a few points. Did I mention that I hate FF? Sorry to go off topic.
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protoslacker
Footballguy
Horn's injury would lead me to think that Colston would be in.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
If he plays this weekend and averages 67 yards per outing, he will top 1200 receiving yards.1000 to 1100 sounds easily within reach, even if he skips this weekend.Will he get 1200/10?He's at 869/7 right now.
Joe Sixpack
Footballguy
Wednesday Injury Report:
New Orleans Saints
OUT TE Ernie Conwell (Knee)
QUESTIONABLE WR Marques Colston (Ankle); LB Mark Simoneau (Hand); WR
Joe Horn (Groin); DE Will Smith (Knee); RB Aaron Stecker
(Ankle)
PROBABLE CB Fred Thomas (Thumb); S Bryan Scott (Foot)
Listed players who did not participate in ''team'' practice:
(Defined as missing any portion of 11-on-11 team work)
WED Ernie Conwell; Marques Colston; Mark Simoneau; Joe Horn; Will
Smith
I have a hunch he plays, and does so extremely well. I'd wager he gets upgraded during the week.
New Orleans Saints
OUT TE Ernie Conwell (Knee)
QUESTIONABLE WR Marques Colston (Ankle); LB Mark Simoneau (Hand); WR
Joe Horn (Groin); DE Will Smith (Knee); RB Aaron Stecker
(Ankle)
PROBABLE CB Fred Thomas (Thumb); S Bryan Scott (Foot)
Listed players who did not participate in ''team'' practice:
(Defined as missing any portion of 11-on-11 team work)
WED Ernie Conwell; Marques Colston; Mark Simoneau; Joe Horn; Will
Smith
I have a hunch he plays, and does so extremely well. I'd wager he gets upgraded during the week.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
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