Any possibility of an FBG chat room? (1 Viewer)

[gianmarco]

We essentially use the in-game threads as a chat room. We often have lots of back and forth postings in lots of threads.

Any chance of an actual Shark Pool Chat Room at FBG? Feasible with the software? Would it take away from the message boards? Would it be utter and complete chaos?

 

[Ozymandias]

You mean a place where we could meet hot chicks? You know, the hot chicks that other FBG's have kicked out of bed because they were only an 8.0, whereas most FBG's score 9's and 10's.

 

[PewterFan]

ASL?

 

[gianmarco]

ASL?

While this made me chuckle, I find it even funnier that I'm sure there are some of you thinking that they are better than a "chat room" because they participate in much more educated and adult-oriented activities like posting on multiple threads on an internet forum.What I meant is a couple specifically oriented chat rooms, such as:--NFC Championship chat room where those who are participating in the in-game thread and have to keep hitting F5 could be in instead and read and type comments much more easily.--A Draft Room chat room where those who want to discuss the draft or prospects could hang out.--A Trade chat room where those who want to discuss trades that often get ignored in the ACF could go--Etc.Maybe I should have tried to be clearer.

 

[FFCardsFan]

I feel like that would be pretty sweet

 

[broncofan13000]

I think its a great idea.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Invision Power Board (the 3rd party message board that FBG uses) has two different types of chat plug-ins. One is called parachat and the other - I forget the name. So it's definitely possible to add-on. You can have multiple chat rooms up to a certain number of individuals per room.

From a business standpoint, chat would be counterproductive because on a message board, you check back multiple times a day for responses to threads, new thread topics, etc. Every time you do that counts as an impression and the Players Network pays their associates based on impressions or click-throughs on ads.

Chat is more difficult to implement advertising into without a live mod plugging it in every so often. I'm not pretending to speak for FBG, just offering a possible explanation as to why chat would be bad from the business side of things.

 

[bentley]

We essentially use the in-game threads as a chat room. We often have lots of back and forth postings in lots of threads.

Any chance of an actual Shark Pool Chat Room at FBG? Feasible with the software? Would it take away from the message boards? Would it be utter and complete chaos?

Probably, on both counts. You can always AIM Swires22 for scintillating talk. Or PM Shuke.

 

[Wadsworth]

Invision Power Board (the 3rd party message board that FBG uses) has two different types of chat plug-ins. One is called parachat and the other - I forget the name. So it's definitely possible to add-on. You can have multiple chat rooms up to a certain number of individuals per room.

From a business standpoint, chat would be counterproductive because on a message board, you check back multiple times a day for responses to threads, new thread topics, etc. Every time you do that counts as an impression and the Players Network pays their associates based on impressions or click-throughs on ads.

Chat is more difficult to implement advertising into without a live mod plugging it in every so often. I'm not pretending to speak for FBG, just offering a possible explanation as to why chat would be bad from the business side of things.

All this is true, but chat can add to revenue through increased user base and improved user loyalty. Basically chat can help you get new people and keep existing people from going elsewhere. Usually with a user base this size the cost associated with chat is less than the benefit provided. It also allows for expanded opportunity for staff/user interaction, for example trivia contests, guess the next draft pick, charity auctions, live interviews, etc. Most of that can be done on the message board, but chat give greater flexibility.

 

[bentley]

Invision Power Board (the 3rd party message board that FBG uses) has two different types of chat plug-ins. One is called parachat and the other - I forget the name. So it's definitely possible to add-on. You can have multiple chat rooms up to a certain number of individuals per room.

From a business standpoint, chat would be counterproductive because on a message board, you check back multiple times a day for responses to threads, new thread topics, etc. Every time you do that counts as an impression and the Players Network pays their associates based on impressions or click-throughs on ads.

Chat is more difficult to implement advertising into without a live mod plugging it in every so often. I'm not pretending to speak for FBG, just offering a possible explanation as to why chat would be bad from the business side of things.

All this is true, but chat can add to revenue through increased user base and improved user loyalty. Basically chat can help you get new people and keep existing people from going elsewhere. Usually with a user base this size the cost associated with chat is less than the benefit provided. It also allows for expanded opportunity for staff/user interaction, for example trivia contests, guess the next draft pick, charity auctions, live interviews, etc. Most of that can be done on the message board, but chat give greater flexibility.

How? I would be surprised to find that anyone dropped their subscription because they had to post about a game instead of being able to chat about it. Seems like an opportunity add more cost, bring in some freeloaders, and move the discussion to an impermanent place.

 

[Wadsworth]

Invision Power Board (the 3rd party message board that FBG uses) has two different types of chat plug-ins. One is called parachat and the other - I forget the name. So it's definitely possible to add-on. You can have multiple chat rooms up to a certain number of individuals per room.

From a business standpoint, chat would be counterproductive because on a message board, you check back multiple times a day for responses to threads, new thread topics, etc. Every time you do that counts as an impression and the Players Network pays their associates based on impressions or click-throughs on ads.

Chat is more difficult to implement advertising into without a live mod plugging it in every so often. I'm not pretending to speak for FBG, just offering a possible explanation as to why chat would be bad from the business side of things.

All this is true, but chat can add to revenue through increased user base and improved user loyalty. Basically chat can help you get new people and keep existing people from going elsewhere. Usually with a user base this size the cost associated with chat is less than the benefit provided. It also allows for expanded opportunity for staff/user interaction, for example trivia contests, guess the next draft pick, charity auctions, live interviews, etc. Most of that can be done on the message board, but chat give greater flexibility.

How? I would be surprised to find that anyone dropped their subscription because they had to post about a game instead of being able to chat about it. Seems like an opportunity add more cost, bring in some freeloaders, and move the discussion to an impermanent place.

This is already a free message board. Footballguys has become very popular, one reason why is they have kept the message board public and free which brings in a lot of people. They then have a chance to sell those people on their product. It's a solid model and seems to have worked pretty well. Your argument against chat is basically an argument against the way FBG became what it is today. What if 8 years ago FBG decided that the message board was just a way to increase cost and bring in a bunch of freeloaders. Think they'd where they are today?

 

[bentley]

If I'm not mistaken, the vast majority of subscribers don't visit the message board. Also, that's an imperfect comparison because there already is a free place for people to talk about football. So adding another free place (and one that was void of advertising revenue) doesn't appear to add any business value.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Invision Power Board (the 3rd party message board that FBG uses) has two different types of chat plug-ins. One is called parachat and the other - I forget the name. So it's definitely possible to add-on. You can have multiple chat rooms up to a certain number of individuals per room.

From a business standpoint, chat would be counterproductive because on a message board, you check back multiple times a day for responses to threads, new thread topics, etc. Every time you do that counts as an impression and the Players Network pays their associates based on impressions or click-throughs on ads.

Chat is more difficult to implement advertising into without a live mod plugging it in every so often. I'm not pretending to speak for FBG, just offering a possible explanation as to why chat would be bad from the business side of things.

All this is true, but chat can add to revenue through increased user base and improved user loyalty. Basically chat can help you get new people and keep existing people from going elsewhere. Usually with a user base this size the cost associated with chat is less than the benefit provided. It also allows for expanded opportunity for staff/user interaction, for example trivia contests, guess the next draft pick, charity auctions, live interviews, etc. Most of that can be done on the message board, but chat give greater flexibility.

Good ideas on the trivia contests and live interviews. Those would be excellent uses of chat. I'm not saying chat wouldn't offer any benefits. It's just that, with chat, you lose the great benefit of the message board. In internet business terms it's referred to as the "stickyness" of a web site. Message boards have a built in reason to keep coming back time and time again. With chat there's no stickyness (sp?) Once you're done, there's no reason to return and you can't scroll back through the conversation that happened after you left. Plus, there's no way to track the effectiveness of advertising. Chat would have it's advantages on the user end. But I strongly disagree that it would improve user loyalty. Message boards have built in user loyalty because you can come back whenever you want, however often you want and track the conversations and debates that happened while you were away.

 

[Wadsworth]

Invision Power Board (the 3rd party message board that FBG uses) has two different types of chat plug-ins. One is called parachat and the other - I forget the name. So it's definitely possible to add-on. You can have multiple chat rooms up to a certain number of individuals per room.

From a business standpoint, chat would be counterproductive because on a message board, you check back multiple times a day for responses to threads, new thread topics, etc. Every time you do that counts as an impression and the Players Network pays their associates based on impressions or click-throughs on ads.

Chat is more difficult to implement advertising into without a live mod plugging it in every so often. I'm not pretending to speak for FBG, just offering a possible explanation as to why chat would be bad from the business side of things.

All this is true, but chat can add to revenue through increased user base and improved user loyalty. Basically chat can help you get new people and keep existing people from going elsewhere. Usually with a user base this size the cost associated with chat is less than the benefit provided. It also allows for expanded opportunity for staff/user interaction, for example trivia contests, guess the next draft pick, charity auctions, live interviews, etc. Most of that can be done on the message board, but chat give greater flexibility.

Good ideas on the trivia contests and live interviews. Those would be excellent uses of chat. I'm not saying chat wouldn't offer any benefits. It's just that, with chat, you lose the great benefit of the message board. In internet business terms it's referred to as the "stickyness" of a web site. Message boards have a built in reason to keep coming back time and time again. With chat there's no stickyness (sp?) Once you're done, there's no reason to return and you can't scroll back through the conversation that happened after you left. Plus, there's no way to track the effectiveness of advertising. Chat would have it's advantages on the user end. But I strongly disagree that it would improve user loyalty. Message boards have built in user loyalty because you can come back whenever you want, however often you want and track the conversations and debates that happened while you were away.

The greatest benefit of message boards is that they are a massive net to catch search engine traffic. People go to Google and search some random thought, maybe they heard about the strange comparison of Boldin and the Tidwell character in the movie. So they search "link between Boldin and Tidwell" and low and behold they are on FBG message board. Now it's the sites job to keep the visitor interested. That's the stickyness. That's one way chat can have benefit. It's just another feature that some will ignore but some will also love it. Sure it cost money and it's an unnecessary feature, but Facebook is basically Classmates with a lot of unnecessary features added. Think the Classmates people wish they had added some unnecessary feature 5 years ago?

 

[bentley]

Your argument may have some merit, but these analogies are brutal. Facebook is just like Classmates except it has gobs more features, and it's completely free.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

This idea is way too easy to mock.

How about an online 3D village where members get to choose online personas for interaction? Can I be Rodney Harrison?

Having made fun of the idea, it would seem fairly easy to set this up on a trial basis so those that are so inclined could try it out...

 

[roadkill1292]

If I'm not mistaken, the vast majority of subscribers don't visit the message board. Also, that's an imperfect comparison because there already is a free place for people to talk about football. So adding another free place (and one that was void of advertising revenue) doesn't appear to add any business value.

Is this part true? WTF do they do with themselves here?

 

[Thorpe]

If I'm not mistaken, the vast majority of subscribers don't visit the message board. Also, that's an imperfect comparison because there already is a free place for people to talk about football. So adding another free place (and one that was void of advertising revenue) doesn't appear to add any business value.

Is this part true? WTF do they do with themselves here?

My guess is they just pay the money to prepare for their draft.