Anybody rolling out Ricky and Ronnie wk 9 (1 Viewer)

[strong]

together their numbers are good, and would make a pretty good RB1 and RB2 most every week.

in my league, teams average 14 points per week from their starting RBs.

only two weeks have ricky and ronnie's combined point totals been less than average--week 1 at the Falcons (9 pts) and week 8 at the Jets (4 pts).

in week 3 at the Chargers, they performed at league average.

in weeks 2, 4, 5, and 6 they performed well above average (each at home).

it's a risky move since a week 1 or week 8 performance will likely sink your team for the week, but all other weeks you'd be in good shape.

last year, in new england, the dolphins ran all over the patriots. later in miami, though, the pats had an answer for the wildcat. this year's pats is without seymour but performing well against the run.

anyone rolling with it? and if so, who ya benching?

 

[Johnny Ice]

I have to even though I'm not expecting big numbers. My only other option is Mike Bell. The Pats have only given up one rushing TD all year if I'm not mistaken.

Edit to Add: Starting Ronnie, don't have Ricky.

 

[kutta]

I probably am too. My other option is Slaton

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Never trust a big butt and smile

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I wouldn't care if if were the Patriots. I don't own Williams or Brown. But the owner in our league that has both and starts them regularly is getting great value. The wildcat is unpredictable in terms of who is the hot hand, but if you have both, its a safe play.

Like I said, dont have a dog in this fight. But if I did, I'd not over-manage a good thing.

 

[Keith1]

I own them both and will continue to start them both. Last week against the Jets was an aberration---not so much because of the Jets defense (although it certainly was improved against the Wildcat), but because the Dolphins offense was rarely on the field. 2 kick-off returns for TDs and 1 INT return for a TD will do that.

I will continue to start Ronnie and Ricky with confidence.

 

[Thanatos]

I own them both and will continue to start them both. Last week against the Jets was an aberration---not so much because of the Jets defense (although it certainly was improved against the Wildcat), but because the Dolphins offense was rarely on the field. 2 kick-off returns for TDs and 1 INT return for a TD will do that.I will continue to start Ronnie and Ricky with confidence.

I also will be leaving Ronnie as a starter in my lineup, and not because I'm a Dolphins fan. Regardless of matchup, Ronnie is a must start every week.He presented what I felt to be tremendous value when he fell to me in the 3rd round of our draft and I snatched him up. The fact that I get to watch my favorite team and one of my starting RBs at the same time is just icing on the cake.

 

[strong]

I own them both and will continue to start them both. Last week against the Jets was an aberration---not so much because of the Jets defense (although it certainly was improved against the Wildcat), but because the Dolphins offense was rarely on the field. 2 kick-off returns for TDs and 1 INT return for a TD will do that.

I will continue to start Ronnie and Ricky with confidence.

I also will be leaving Ronnie as a starter in my lineup, and not because I'm a Dolphins fan. Regardless of matchup, Ronnie is a must start every week.

He presented what I felt to be tremendous value when he fell to me in the 3rd round of our draft and I snatched him up. The fact that I get to watch my favorite team and one of my starting RBs at the same time is just icing on the cake.

yes, obviously ronnie is a must start every weekthe question is starting both in two rb formats

 

[strong]

I own them both and will continue to start them both. Last week against the Jets was an aberration---not so much because of the Jets defense (although it certainly was improved against the Wildcat), but because the Dolphins offense was rarely on the field. 2 kick-off returns for TDs and 1 INT return for a TD will do that.I will continue to start Ronnie and Ricky with confidence.

i've had both all season long but have not started both yet since i have peterson.i hadn't thought about the three lost possessions. makes me feel a little better about rolling them out their considering one of their two below average games came on a week when they had the ball three fewer times than they should have.

 

[basher]

I went a good portion of last season starting both D-will and the daily show ... it can work out for you but I would only do it if it was necessity

 

[strong]

only one other shark rolling with the wildcat this weekend?

 

[Tanner9919]

Never trust a big butt and smile

give it a rest, dude.that schtick is getting old.. Miami seems hell-bent on force-feeding the ball at the RB's when they play teams with explosive offenses, like New Orleans and Indianapolis over the past few weeks.. I'll put Ricky down for about 70 rush yards, and a TD , Ronnie about the same.rolling with Ricky this weekend start him with confidence..

 

[Menace]

starting Ronnie over Mendy

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

I'll probably end up starting both. You have to figure they will combine for a couple TDs, and I don't want to gamble on which will get it. I'll have to bench LT or Benson to do it, though.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I'd be very wary of this strategy. The Saints started sending more corners on blitzes vs. the wildcat vs. the Dolphins, and it was effectively shut down. Notice that the wildcat produced no big plays last week vs the Jets either.

I am also worried about Henne, he looked feeble last week - holding the ball too long, erratic accuracy - if the Dolphins dont put the defense on their heels and get Henne in makeable down/distance combos, he will struggle mightily.

The Dolphins are starting two rookie corners, and their safeties have been a major liability in coverage this season. It could be easier for NE to jump out to an early lead than you think, and then where does that leave Ronnie/Ricky - of course the Dolphins are slavish enough to that formation that they might still run it down 2-3 TDs, but that is asking a lot.

I'm thinking the wildcat is about to turn into a pumpkin...

 

[brewer]

I am starting Ricky over Ronnie in one league. I expect Ricky to have more success catching the ball out of the backfield than Ronnie will have running the ball.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Saints put on a coaching clinic in the second half vs Dolphins

Defensively, coordinator Gregg Williams had a masterful game plan against the Dolphins' famed Wildcat offense. Whenever running back Ronnie Brown went into the shotgun formation, the Saints blitzed defensive backs, often sending cornerbacks Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter off the edge. This strategy caused major problems for the Dolphins' blocking scheme, who had not accounted for the "corner fires" and the Dolphins never adjusted. Surprisingly, the Dolphins only tried to counter this strategy once, by having Brown pass downfield.

The Saints also aligned blitz specialist, strong safety Roman Harper, in the box and sent him into the backfield often.

The result was perhaps the most effective Wildcat defense the league has seen all season. Miami, which entered the game averaging 7.1 yards on 47 Wildcat plays, was held to 27 yards on 14 snaps from the formation. Their longest play was an 8-yard run. The Saints' blitz tactics resulted in four tackles for losses.

 

[Rovers]

I own them both and will continue to start them both. Last week against the Jets was an aberration---not so much because of the Jets defense (although it certainly was improved against the Wildcat), but because the Dolphins offense was rarely on the field. 2 kick-off returns for TDs and 1 INT return for a TD will do that.I will continue to start Ronnie and Ricky with confidence.

I've seen this opinion elsewhere, but it doesn't hold water. Last week Miami had 4 three and outs in the first half. They had 7 possessions in the first half last week and the half ended tied at 3-3. Miami started the second half with another three and out. That's the first 8 possessions and Ricky and Ronnie had little to no success. I have both of them on one of my rosters, and I'm very nervous about starting either one of them against the Pats in NE, never mind starting both of them.

 

[TheWizard]

The Patriots take away the opposing team's strength each week and make you beat them other ways. With that said I think they are going force Henne to throw and scramble; and clamp down on the run. I'm sure Brown and Williams will get yards, but I do not think as much in previous weeks.

Needless to say, I have Ronnie Brown going in my league.

 

[big0mar]

Pat White is a sneaky start this week....

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Saints put on a coaching clinic in the second half vs Dolphins

Defensively, coordinator Gregg Williams had a masterful game plan against the Dolphins' famed Wildcat offense. Whenever running back Ronnie Brown went into the shotgun formation, the Saints blitzed defensive backs, often sending cornerbacks Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter off the edge. This strategy caused major problems for the Dolphins' blocking scheme, who had not accounted for the "corner fires" and the Dolphins never adjusted. Surprisingly, the Dolphins only tried to counter this strategy once, by having Brown pass downfield.

The Saints also aligned blitz specialist, strong safety Roman Harper, in the box and sent him into the backfield often.

The result was perhaps the most effective Wildcat defense the league has seen all season. Miami, which entered the game averaging 7.1 yards on 47 Wildcat plays, was held to 27 yards on 14 snaps from the formation. Their longest play was an 8-yard run. The Saints' blitz tactics resulted in four tackles for losses.

I really don't understand why it took until week 8 for a team to use this strategy. Every NFL team should be willing to blitz DBs against the wildcat, and take their chances covering WRs one-on-one, forcing Ronnie to throw the ball. What took so long?

 

[big0mar]

Saints put on a coaching clinic in the second half vs Dolphins

Defensively, coordinator Gregg Williams had a masterful game plan against the Dolphins' famed Wildcat offense. Whenever running back Ronnie Brown went into the shotgun formation, the Saints blitzed defensive backs, often sending cornerbacks Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter off the edge. This strategy caused major problems for the Dolphins' blocking scheme, who had not accounted for the "corner fires" and the Dolphins never adjusted. Surprisingly, the Dolphins only tried to counter this strategy once, by having Brown pass downfield.

The Saints also aligned blitz specialist, strong safety Roman Harper, in the box and sent him into the backfield often.

The result was perhaps the most effective Wildcat defense the league has seen all season. Miami, which entered the game averaging 7.1 yards on 47 Wildcat plays, was held to 27 yards on 14 snaps from the formation. Their longest play was an 8-yard run. The Saints' blitz tactics resulted in four tackles for losses.

I really don't understand why it took until week 8 for a team to use this strategy. Every NFL team should be willing to blitz DBs against the wildcat, and take their chances covering WRs one-on-one, forcing Ronnie to throw the ball. What took so long?

Teams tried it before. NO and NYJ were successful because they were just more disciplined with their gap control. The blitzing CBs can be countered by using a RB/TE/FB to block them. The first time MIA played NYJ, they really used a lot of jumbo packages to prevent it.There is never going to be a defense to totally take away the wildcat, just like there won't be one to take away the I-form or shotgun or any other formation.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

I have Ronnie & I'm starting him. If I had taken Ricky like I planned (but waited too long), I'd def start him, too, just like I would have done all season long.

 

[certificate]

Saints put on a coaching clinic in the second half vs Dolphins

Defensively, coordinator Gregg Williams had a masterful game plan against the Dolphins' famed Wildcat offense. Whenever running back Ronnie Brown went into the shotgun formation, the Saints blitzed defensive backs, often sending cornerbacks Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter off the edge. This strategy caused major problems for the Dolphins' blocking scheme, who had not accounted for the "corner fires" and the Dolphins never adjusted. Surprisingly, the Dolphins only tried to counter this strategy once, by having Brown pass downfield.

The Saints also aligned blitz specialist, strong safety Roman Harper, in the box and sent him into the backfield often.

The result was perhaps the most effective Wildcat defense the league has seen all season. Miami, which entered the game averaging 7.1 yards on 47 Wildcat plays, was held to 27 yards on 14 snaps from the formation. Their longest play was an 8-yard run. The Saints' blitz tactics resulted in four tackles for losses.

I really don't understand why it took until week 8 for a team to use this strategy. Every NFL team should be willing to blitz DBs against the wildcat, and take their chances covering WRs one-on-one, forcing Ronnie to throw the ball. What took so long?

Teams tried it before. NO and NYJ were successful because they were just more disciplined with their gap control. The blitzing CBs can be countered by using a RB/TE/FB to block them. The first time MIA played NYJ, they really used a lot of jumbo packages to prevent it.There is never going to be a defense to totally take away the wildcat, just like there won't be one to take away the I-form or shotgun or any other formation.

Also, the rub is that when your CB whiffs on tackling, takes a bad angle or just gets blocked, there's even more room. Run Blitzing the secondary is very high risk, not so high reward, which is why teams don't love doing it.

 

[big0mar]

Saints put on a coaching clinic in the second half vs Dolphins

Defensively, coordinator Gregg Williams had a masterful game plan against the Dolphins' famed Wildcat offense. Whenever running back Ronnie Brown went into the shotgun formation, the Saints blitzed defensive backs, often sending cornerbacks Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter off the edge. This strategy caused major problems for the Dolphins' blocking scheme, who had not accounted for the "corner fires" and the Dolphins never adjusted. Surprisingly, the Dolphins only tried to counter this strategy once, by having Brown pass downfield.

The Saints also aligned blitz specialist, strong safety Roman Harper, in the box and sent him into the backfield often.

The result was perhaps the most effective Wildcat defense the league has seen all season. Miami, which entered the game averaging 7.1 yards on 47 Wildcat plays, was held to 27 yards on 14 snaps from the formation. Their longest play was an 8-yard run. The Saints' blitz tactics resulted in four tackles for losses.

I really don't understand why it took until week 8 for a team to use this strategy. Every NFL team should be willing to blitz DBs against the wildcat, and take their chances covering WRs one-on-one, forcing Ronnie to throw the ball. What took so long?

Teams tried it before. NO and NYJ were successful because they were just more disciplined with their gap control. The blitzing CBs can be countered by using a RB/TE/FB to block them. The first time MIA played NYJ, they really used a lot of jumbo packages to prevent it.There is never going to be a defense to totally take away the wildcat, just like there won't be one to take away the I-form or shotgun or any other formation.

Also, the rub is that when your CB whiffs on tackling, takes a bad angle or just gets blocked, there's even more room. Run Blitzing the secondary is very high risk, not so high reward, which is why teams don't love doing it.

Yeah, I mean Ronnie Brown one-on-one against a CB is essentially what you are hoping to get. The Dolphins just didn't execute the last two games, credit goes to NO and NYJ, both good defenses.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Saints put on a coaching clinic in the second half vs Dolphins

Defensively, coordinator Gregg Williams had a masterful game plan against the Dolphins' famed Wildcat offense. Whenever running back Ronnie Brown went into the shotgun formation, the Saints blitzed defensive backs, often sending cornerbacks Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter off the edge. This strategy caused major problems for the Dolphins' blocking scheme, who had not accounted for the "corner fires" and the Dolphins never adjusted. Surprisingly, the Dolphins only tried to counter this strategy once, by having Brown pass downfield.

The Saints also aligned blitz specialist, strong safety Roman Harper, in the box and sent him into the backfield often.

The result was perhaps the most effective Wildcat defense the league has seen all season. Miami, which entered the game averaging 7.1 yards on 47 Wildcat plays, was held to 27 yards on 14 snaps from the formation. Their longest play was an 8-yard run. The Saints' blitz tactics resulted in four tackles for losses.

Jets did the same thing. If you noticed, it was blitzing CBs that broke up both of Brown's passing attempts out of the WC.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Never trust a big butt and smile

give it a rest, dude.that schtick is getting old.. Miami seems hell-bent on force-feeding the ball at the RB's when they play teams with explosive offenses, like New Orleans and Indianapolis over the past few weeks.. I'll put Ricky down for about 70 rush yards, and a TD , Ronnie about the same.rolling with Ricky this weekend start him with confidence..

Lighten up, guy. BBD shtick never gets old.As far as the OP goes, there is no reason to not start both with confidence unless you have other very good options.