Anybody Rolling With McCoy (1 Viewer)

[packersfan]

I don't think it's a foolish move given Westbrook's injury issues and the fact there was a platoon in place before Westbrook got hurt again.

So anyone rolling with McCoy as a flex RB even if Westbrook returns against the Chargers?

 

[skillz]

Not me. Last time I tried that it was against Tampa and it didn't work out too well for me. Philly doesn't run the ball a ton either so even if they split the carries that doesn't leave a lot of carries for McCoy (6-8 total).

 

[gethugefast1]

Found this interesting article...makes me think Westy might not go for a while.

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/11/12/thursda...concussio/#cont

Thursday-and-Long: Westbrook, NFL Players Wake Up to Concussion Danger

Posted Nov 12, 2009 12:00PM By Dan Graziano (RSS feed)

Filed Under: Eagles, NFL Injuries, NFL Analysis

PHILADELPHIA -- Brian Westbrook did not practice with the Eagles on Wednesday, nor did he talk about why. His coach, Andy Reid, said Westbrook would practice Thursday and that the reason he was held out Wednesday was his ankle, and not the concussion he suffered in the team's Oct. 26 victory over the Redskins. But if you buy that, I've got a South Philly bridge to sell you, too.

The ankle is a red herring. Westbrook's ankle is a chronic problem, for which he's had surgery, and his ankle probably hurts every day. They can put him on the injury report with an ankle problem anytime they want, and nobody's going to bat an eye. This thing with Westbrook is a case of a player, concerned about his own personal future, taking it slow amid a culture that's only starting to embrace the danger and seriousness of concussions.

When Westbrook spoke last week, his comments were telling. He told reporters that the concussion "scared" him, and that he was "concerned about the long-term effects of it."

"I didn't have a great understanding of concussions before," Westbrook said, according to phillyburbs.com. "When you think about it, they don't have a lot of information on concussions when you get to be 50, 60 and 70 years old, how it impacts your life. Unfortunately, in this profession, a lot of guys have concussions. Some guys don't even know they have concussions until it's too late."

What's interesting about Wesbrook's comments is that they sound exactly like the point the NFL players' union was making a couple of weeks ago when it (and commissioner Roger Goodell) testified in front of Congress on the topic of concussions in pro football. It's a major concern for retired players who feel that not enough attention was paid to the issue during their playing days, and new NFLPA director DeMaurice Smith has made it a front-and-center issue for current players as well. The union that day in Washington was hoping to get some congressional assistance in getting the NFL to do more studies of the effects of concussions and to pay more attention to the studies that have already been done.

The Westbrook case is a case of a player heeding that call and applying it at the ground level. It's clear that Westbrook, now 30 years old and, because he's a running back, confronting the downside of his career, isn't thrilled about the idea of playing with a concussion. It's clear that the Eagles are attempting to be sensitive to the player's concerns while also trying not to call too much attention to it. It's clear that the super-macho NFL culture, in which a grown man can still reasonably be worried about what his peers will think if he doesn't want to play because his head hurts, is still a factor here.

What's encouraging is that a player of Westbrook's stature and experience would take the cautious route. Because that route hasn't been taken enough in the NFL. And it needs to be. And maybe, because Brian Westbrook is taking it, more players will do so in the future.

 

[munygon2]

I'll be putting him the lineup again this week. He's helped me out a lot recently.

 

[gethugefast1]

Guess you can take my post above w/a grain of salt now.

Brian Westbrook - RB - Eagles

Per Profootballtalk.com, Brian Westbrook (concussion, ankle) returned to a full practice Thursday.

Nov. 12 - 3:37 p.m. ET

Source: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com

 

[Velcro]

Well just because he practiced doesn't mean he'll play. After all, he practiced Wed and Thursday after the concussion and still didn't play the following week.

But I will highlight that the article isn't exactly quality journalism. There is no quote, no inside information or even implications that "word from unnamed sources" say that he sat out because of concussion concerns. The basic premise is that since his ankle always hurts, it can't be the real reason he didn't play or practice.

As for the main topic of the thread, if Westbrook is active I will probably start Kevin Smith instead of McCoy.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I have McCoy, not Westy.

I won't be starting McCoy, but I can tell you that news of Westy not playing has not come out until Saturday and Sunday the last two weeks.

If Westy plays I'm not starting McCoy though, because to me a split isn't worth much.

To me the real question is how damanged Westbrook is for the rest of the year and does McCoy take over this season.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I'm not buying anything about Westbrook until about 2:30PM on Sunday afternoon.

 

[BUTTER]

Westy had more work done on the ankle and some reports have swelling after practice last week (saw them last week and could not find on limited time).

The Philadelphia Eagles could really use running back Brian Westbrook back

in the lineup. He's missed two games due to a concussion he suffered on Oct.

26. And now it's looking like he might miss this week's game due to ankle

pain, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer.

Coach Andy Reid said yesterday that the surgically repaired right ankle of

Westbrook was proving to be bothersome and it's the reason he didn't

practice at the end of last week. But Westbrook has had some "work done," on

the ankle since then, according to Reid, so it should be feeling a little

better. He wouldn't exactly way what "work done" meant, but one guesses it

wasn't plastic surgery.

If Westbrook doesn't practice tomorrow, it is likely due to the ankle and

not the concussion, Reid said. Any way you slice it, Westbrook is the

definition of "banged up" and there's a pretty good chance that he could

miss another game for the Eagles.

Source of this article :

Yahoo! Sports

 

[BUTTER]

I'm not buying anything about Westbrook until about 2:30PM on Sunday afternoon.

I agree!

 

[packersfan]

From RotoWorld:

The Eagles reportedly plan to use a series-by-series rotation of Brian Westbrook and LeSean McCoy Sunday at San Diego.

The even timeshare essentially means that there will be no designated goal-line or third-down back, making both Westbrook and McCoy low-end RB2s thanks to the favorable matchup. Both RBs are risky, but the Chargers are 26th against the run and the 4PM ET game figures to be high scoring.

Source: FOXSports.com

Related: LeSean McCoy

 

[Buffaloes]

From RotoWorld:The Eagles reportedly plan to use a series-by-series rotation of Brian Westbrook and LeSean McCoy Sunday at San Diego.The even timeshare essentially means that there will be no designated goal-line or third-down back, making both Westbrook and McCoy low-end RB2s thanks to the favorable matchup. Both RBs are risky, but the Chargers are 26th against the run and the 4PM ET game figures to be high scoring.Source: FOXSports.comRelated: LeSean McCoy

ugh, saw this coming. Was hoping they would let Westy rest another game or so.It is tempting to go McCoy over Westy if this is the case.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

ugh, saw this coming. Was hoping they would let Westy rest another game or so.

Same boat. Was hoping I may get one more week without having to make a decision between the two Eagle runners, but figured this was gonna happen by Friday.If it's truly going to be a 50/50 split, and McCoy is the healthier of the two guys.......??I guess I just don't know if I trust that it'll truly be a 50/50 share if Westbrook has a couple nice plays early. Especially since it appears SD has had its share of trouble with backs catching passes out of the backfield. Westrbrook's certainly the greater threat in that department.I'll probably be flip-flopping until game time.

 

[dddeals]

Sal Pao just said that Westbrook is going to be involved in 12-15 plays. So I could see a 50/50 split with him and McCoy. So its a huge gamble to roll with either today.

 

[the spanker]

I'm going to sit both of them this game and see how it goes. I was fortunate to make a 3 for 2 deal last night that landed me Hightower.

 

[packersfan]

Sal Pao just said that Westbrook is going to be involved in 12-15 plays. So I could see a 50/50 split with him and McCoy. So its a huge gamble to roll with either today.

I wonder if he meant 12-15 snaps. If it's only 12-15 plays, Westbrook won't be on the field all that much. Either way, I think McCoy's value is rising today.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Sal Pao just said that Westbrook is going to be involved in 12-15 plays. So I could see a 50/50 split with him and McCoy. So its a huge gamble to roll with either today.

I wonder if he meant 12-15 snaps. If it's only 12-15 plays, Westbrook won't be on the field all that much. Either way, I think McCoy's value is rising today.

That's exactly what I wondered when I read that. If Westbrook is only in there for 15 snaps, then McCoy moves in front of him easily, as far as the "safety" of the guy getting touches is concerned.If he meant touches, which I suppose "being involved" is more likely to mean, and both backs wind up getting between 12-15 plays, I'd expect both would have a decent shot at around 60-70 total yards using there per-touch averages. So it'd come down to TDs at that point.I'm about ready to just flip a friggin' coin and have done with it.

 

[War Eagle]

Brian Westbrook will be active against the Chargers today, but will likely be limited to a "certain package of plays," according to ESPN's Sal Paolantonio.

This has more to do with Westbrook's chronic ankle problems than his concussion. Look for LeSean McCoy to handle the majority of the load with Westbrook mixed in for 8-13 touches. Westbrook could end up with a bigger load if he goes out and feels great, but that's unlikely. Consider him a flex play. Nov. 15 - 12:04 pm et

Source: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com

 

[Buffaloes]

Brian Westbrook will be active against the Chargers today, but will likely be limited to a "certain package of plays," according to ESPN's Sal Paolantonio.This has more to do with Westbrook's chronic ankle problems than his concussion. Look for LeSean McCoy to handle the majority of the load with Westbrook mixed in for 8-13 touches. Westbrook could end up with a bigger load if he goes out and feels great, but that's unlikely. Consider him a flex play. Nov. 15 - 12:04 pm etSource: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com

Thanks for this tidbit...Makes the decision process a little easier

 

[Young 8]

ZERO touches in the 1st half......are you kidding me ?????

F U Andy Reid....you fat piece of S---

 

[CrossEyed]

Brian Westbrook will be active against the Chargers today, but will likely be limited to a "certain package of plays," according to ESPN's Sal Paolantonio.This has more to do with Westbrook's chronic ankle problems than his concussion. Look for LeSean McCoy to handle the majority of the load with Westbrook mixed in for 8-13 touches. Westbrook could end up with a bigger load if he goes out and feels great, but that's unlikely. Consider him a flex play. Nov. 15 - 12:04 pm etSource: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com

Thanks for this tidbit...Makes the decision process a little easier

But not necessarily wise.