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Anyone catch McNabb blowing off Vick last night? (1 Viewer)
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deadRED
Footballguy
I have a feeling with TO gone and Williams banged up along with Westy getting healthy and now Vick in the mix, the last thingyou'll be doing is "loving it" vs. Philly this year.I'm not a cowboy or eagle fan, but i have a feeling Philly is in for a big year offensively. JMOBankerguy said:
That’s it, call it now. The Eagles season is over! They will be lucky to score a touchdown, let alone win a game, because Vick is in on four plays a game. I predict the season will end with Vick wearing a fur coat on the sidelines and throwing red meat at McNabb. After Vick is suspended by the Eagles, the media will show up to Vick’s house only to discover a voodoo doll of McNabb with pins in it. McNabb’s arm will fall off in the next game. You heard it here first folks.
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TitusIII
Footballguy
Agreed, if McNabb wants to ever see a SuperBowl again, he will need the talents of Mike Vick to help him, imo. The guy isn't a pure passer, but Vick is an amazing weapon with the football in his hands, and I'm fairly sure Andy Reid knows what he is doing.Johnny Ice said:
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fatness
Footballguy
That actually makes as much sense as the other overblown conclusions of doom in this thread.
delusional
Footballguy
Philly's media at its finest. They just find #### the ####### make up.
They drop little #### like this, then the mental midgets from WIP and 950 chime in on it, then their horde of mental midgets agree too.
Then its "the fans want so and so"
They drop little #### like this, then the mental midgets from WIP and 950 chime in on it, then their horde of mental midgets agree too.
Then its "the fans want so and so"
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zadok
Footballguy
I just watched "the incident" on video. Laughable that anyone could blow this up. The play that just occured was Vick shoveling to McCoy for no gain when Desean Jackson was wide open to his left. JACKSON let Vick have it ON THE FIELD as they were walking off. That put the Eagles in another 3rd and long which is what McNabb was saying in his post game comments. On the sidelines, McNabb and Vick WERE talking as McNabb walked to Marty - you can bet McNabb was saying the same things to Vick that Jackson just did. That's when you saw the "cut it out" gesture - McNabb wanted to get some TDs and shovel passes would not get that done. That's it folks.
Urinal Mint
Footballguy
McNabb has the most fragile ego in sports. If someone isn't stroking that dude constantly he's whining and crying to the media.
This whole thread is stupid. McNabb was irritated because they were doing it early, and he (and the offense) had no rythm yet.
Later (second half), McNabb and Vick were standing together talking on the sidelines frequently.
McNabb may have been irritated, but this thread is over-stating it badly.
Later (second half), McNabb and Vick were standing together talking on the sidelines frequently.
McNabb may have been irritated, but this thread is over-stating it badly.
dhockster
Footballguy
Two points:
First, Even though McNabb has been with Reid for ten years now, and is considered Reid's guy, it seems to me that Reid doesn't communicate very well with McNabb. As examples, the benching in last year's Ravens game, and last night. Reid could have very easily said to Donovan before last night's game, "Hey, we are going to use the wildcat quite a few times, because I want to see what Vick can do, and I want to give opposing defenses something to worry about. I want to do it tonight, because next week most of the starters are sitting out. What do you think?". Then you wouldn't have McNabb crying about it after the game. Of course its possible Reid did communicate with McNabb and McNabb is just throwing Reid under the bus. However, I don't see much reason to do that.
Second, I think the Eagles ran the wildcat quite a few times last night because the starters were playing, and that is who Vick will run the wildcat with in the regular season. Like I said above, they won't get much of a chance to pratice it next week because the starters will most likely be sitting out. I am sure they only showed the plays they did last night to get opposing defenses something to thing about, and the Eagles will probably do different things in the regular season then they showed last night.
I always thought McNabb handled himself well with the press with the various controversies that have come up (TO, Rush Limbaugh), but he has gotten very whiney in the past couple of years. I find it interesting that he said he lobbied for Vick, that he was excited about the wildcat possibilities (he joked about lining up as a WR) and the first time they practice it in a game (the only preseason game they will get to practice it) he complains that it is disrupting the offense. I like McNabb as a QB but after 10 years in the league he comes across as a little thin skinned. Maybe, as I said above, it is because Reid does not communicate well with him.
Overall, though, I don't think this is a long-term controversy, as both Reid and McNabb depend on each other for success this year.
First, Even though McNabb has been with Reid for ten years now, and is considered Reid's guy, it seems to me that Reid doesn't communicate very well with McNabb. As examples, the benching in last year's Ravens game, and last night. Reid could have very easily said to Donovan before last night's game, "Hey, we are going to use the wildcat quite a few times, because I want to see what Vick can do, and I want to give opposing defenses something to worry about. I want to do it tonight, because next week most of the starters are sitting out. What do you think?". Then you wouldn't have McNabb crying about it after the game. Of course its possible Reid did communicate with McNabb and McNabb is just throwing Reid under the bus. However, I don't see much reason to do that.
Second, I think the Eagles ran the wildcat quite a few times last night because the starters were playing, and that is who Vick will run the wildcat with in the regular season. Like I said above, they won't get much of a chance to pratice it next week because the starters will most likely be sitting out. I am sure they only showed the plays they did last night to get opposing defenses something to thing about, and the Eagles will probably do different things in the regular season then they showed last night.
I always thought McNabb handled himself well with the press with the various controversies that have come up (TO, Rush Limbaugh), but he has gotten very whiney in the past couple of years. I find it interesting that he said he lobbied for Vick, that he was excited about the wildcat possibilities (he joked about lining up as a WR) and the first time they practice it in a game (the only preseason game they will get to practice it) he complains that it is disrupting the offense. I like McNabb as a QB but after 10 years in the league he comes across as a little thin skinned. Maybe, as I said above, it is because Reid does not communicate well with him.
Overall, though, I don't think this is a long-term controversy, as both Reid and McNabb depend on each other for success this year.
I couldn't agree more.
BeaverCleaver
Footballguy
RBM
Footballguy
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Ok, it doesn't work yet you have several teams around the league implementing it and acquiring players to utilize it. Good one.
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
2 things:
First, IMO, the primary reason Reid inserted Vick into the offense early for several plays was to force other teams to waste time preparing for the wildcat with him and McNabb on the field.
Second, I just heard an interview with Jaws on Rome's show earlier this hour, and Jaws flat out stated that Philadelphia was the worst possible place for Vick to sign. I respect Jaws opinion a lot more than most other people covering the team, as the guy is a straight shooter and doesn't have an agenda (i.e. he's not trying to stir the pot, etc.).
I think it's interesting that a lot of people (myself included), thought that the Eagles signing Vick was a great "pure football move" with no downside, and all the negatives had to do with the off the field stuff possibly being a major distraction, while as of last night it has been pretty much the opposite. It will be interesting to see how this plays out over the season.
First, IMO, the primary reason Reid inserted Vick into the offense early for several plays was to force other teams to waste time preparing for the wildcat with him and McNabb on the field.
Second, I just heard an interview with Jaws on Rome's show earlier this hour, and Jaws flat out stated that Philadelphia was the worst possible place for Vick to sign. I respect Jaws opinion a lot more than most other people covering the team, as the guy is a straight shooter and doesn't have an agenda (i.e. he's not trying to stir the pot, etc.).
I think it's interesting that a lot of people (myself included), thought that the Eagles signing Vick was a great "pure football move" with no downside, and all the negatives had to do with the off the field stuff possibly being a major distraction, while as of last night it has been pretty much the opposite. It will be interesting to see how this plays out over the season.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Look, McNabb was completely honest in his press conference. He's all for Vick being there, he was the one who lobbied for it. And he understands why Andy put Vick into the game when he did. But he doesn't want to see that happen when the games count. I think if the Eagles give Vick entire series in the regular season, it'll be problematic. But I also don't think that's likely to happen so this is probably moot.
I can see why MCNabb has a fragile ego......has that city ever really endorsed him from day one? I know Philly is a tough sports town, but you had the Draft day booing, the Kob drafting, the championship games lost, Super bowl loss, TO debacle.....the guy has gone through a lot.
vick was embraced loudly last night.....maybe change their name to the Beagles
vick was embraced loudly last night.....maybe change their name to the Beagles
JetMaxx
Footballguy
6 plays in a meaningless preseason game and the fans are aleady chanting "We want Vick" and McNabb is seen on the sideline telling his coach to get him out of the game. And you say this is moot?
Yeah Baby........this thread is moot!6 plays in a meaningless preseason game and the fans are aleady chanting "We want Vick" and McNabb is seen on the sideline telling his coach to get him out of the game. And you say this is moot?
GoBirds
Footballguy
That goes to Portis and his homo costumes.
Please See Mine
Footballguy
If Vick isn't used the way he was last night and he doesn't run an entire series, then how exactly will he be used?
Bamboo Bill
Footballguy
As a backup quarterback?
I wouldnt worry too much about the cold shoulder.sometimes when a person is really focussed on the game and trying to think something out, it is natural to not want to talk to someone. As a guy who has played, I can say this is true.the fact of the matter is... everyone deals with things differently on the field and sometimes you cannot take these things personal because I'm sure in McNabb's case he didnt mean anything by it, he just wanted a minute to either refocus or think about something the defense was doing, and maybe didnt even notice how others read his actions.as a former player, you have to allow for another player to do what needs to be done to maintain focus on what you are doing, and if this is what he as a player wants/needs to do to accomplish this, then if I am his teammate, I let him do it so he can get the job done and I dont take it personally.you can bet money that this is exactly what it is and some idiot in the press sees it as a snub and writes a story about it to make a few bucks.dont let this concern you. things will work out just fine.
I dont even think the Eagles know this yet.he's only been on the team a week or two and has learned only a small part of the playbook. I'm sure they put him in there just to see what he is capable of doing.remember, this is still exhibition and there is only one more game left to evaluate the talent before the regular season begins. the time to do these things is now, and the Eagles are doing the right thing in exhibition. if Vick is gonna be the backup, he needs to shake the rust off, and sometimes just throwing a guy into the fire is a good way to start that process.
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
I wouldn't say he wasn't on board with Vick coming in...as his backup.I think the issue may be when the he sees Vick coming in towards the huddle when the game is still close...in the first quarter.
Kinda funny.
McNabb last week: "It was my idea to bring Vick in."
McNabb this week: "It was not my idea to bring Vick in in the the first quarter."
McNabb already feels underappreciated by the Philly and the front office. Let him simmer as Vick gets a role other than in mop-up duty...
...it'll be good.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
WTF are the Iggles brass thinking? There is ZERO reason for Vick to be behind center AND McNabb to be on the field. What threat does McNabb offer split outside?
All this is going to do if it continues is create major controversy!
Vick is not a starter-quality QB in this league, period! Now, if they want to use him as a Reggie Bush-type threat, then I can certainly see that.
This crap is why Reid hasn't won the big one IMO.
All this is going to do if it continues is create major controversy!
Vick is not a starter-quality QB in this league, period! Now, if they want to use him as a Reggie Bush-type threat, then I can certainly see that.
This crap is why Reid hasn't won the big one IMO.
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
I'm a diehard Skins fan, and I often get the impression that I'm a bigger fan of Donovan McNabb than most Eagles fans are. I like him as a player.And the only guy people love more than Portis is Raymond.Also, nice homophobic slur you worked in there. Making Eagle Nation look classy.That goes to Portis and his homo costumes.
After watching the video clips and the post-game stuff, I agree. McNabb knows that Vick is a threat to his job in 2010, simple as that.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
You've never won a superbowl and the Skins beat you guys twice last year. Why are you talking trash to a Skins fans?
Johnny Ice
Footballguy
Grow up man. This has nothing to do with Skins vs. Eagles.
TO takes a lot of heat and sometimes it is warranted, but I think TO was right on the money about McNabb.
fatness
Footballguy
I like McNabb, always have. But a lot of people here will jump on him for absolutely nothing. This thread's a good example. Thanks for sharing your opinion of gay people though. We couldn't do without that.That goes to Portis and his homo costumes.
Marvin88
Footballguy
HOW IS THIS GOOD POSTING? You go and obtain Vick for a good sum of money. So you sit him on the sidelines and not let him in the game for the entire preseason. How is this smart? If you don't play him in the preseason, then when do you play him? The logical progression is NEVER! Which is exactly what McNabb wants - for them to never play Vick! McNabb's concern is not with offensive continuity! His concern is with himself and his playing time vs. Vick's.RBM said:
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Andy Herron
Footballguy
When I said in the initial "signing" thread, "Let the chaos begin...", I wasn't kidding.
It's been more than substancial thus far both on and off the field, and we're only getting started.
Philly won't win anything but headlines this year. Just wait until the crowd at The Link starts feeding off of each other once Vick is reinstated and McNabb is stinking up the joint in any semblence of a key game. And you know he will, he always does. And you know they will, because they always do.
Meanwhile, McNabb is already shunning Vick just as he did with T.O.
Ya, that sounds like a good recipe for success.
It's only preseaon, yet this whole thing already appears to be derailing. I'm sure that's great medicine for the locker room.
I wouldn't be shocked to see the Eagles cut Vick prior to the season opener.
It's been more than substancial thus far both on and off the field, and we're only getting started.
Philly won't win anything but headlines this year. Just wait until the crowd at The Link starts feeding off of each other once Vick is reinstated and McNabb is stinking up the joint in any semblence of a key game. And you know he will, he always does. And you know they will, because they always do.
Meanwhile, McNabb is already shunning Vick just as he did with T.O.
Ya, that sounds like a good recipe for success.
It's only preseaon, yet this whole thing already appears to be derailing. I'm sure that's great medicine for the locker room.
I wouldn't be shocked to see the Eagles cut Vick prior to the season opener.
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Yo Andy, go back to defending the Cowgirls obnoxious video-tron. You know the one. You've got pix hanging above your bed, so you feel like you are at the new digs as you fall asleep at night.
Andy Herron
Footballguy
Just the class I would expect from an Eagles fan. No surprise here.
Whatever.By my account, you are the most over-the-top Cowboys lover here on these boards and will defend them and anything JJ does to the n-th degree. At the same time you purposefully look for anything to dig into when it comes to Eagles, Giants or Redskins. I was just giving you a little bit of my opinion of you, that's all. If you think I don't have any class, that's fine, but I never entered a TO thread claiming he would be the downfall of the Cowboys and it would only get worse. I didn't need to. It happened on it's own without me predicting it would happen.Carry on reporting your biased opinions of the Cowboys. We know where you stand.
Andy Herron
Footballguy
("Whatever." That's always an intelligent response.)Oh really. By your account, huh? That's rich.
I certainly don't defend the Cowboys in every given circumstance, and by all means don't always defend Jerry. I haven't agreed with him on many occasions. All I do for the most part is post news along with my views. As for "purposefully looking for anything to dig into when it comes to the Eagles, Giants or Redskins"... you're grossly mistaken. I don't even enter any of their OFFICIAL threads nor do I have any desire to. I view those threads as a locker room. I've never had a desire to enter an opponent's locker room. I don't care in the least what goes on there.
As for posting in any other threads regarding NFC East foes, I will challenge you to find "any" remarks or posts on my part. I can't even recall any posts I've made regarding the Giants or Redskins in recent memory. I made one remark about Eli's contract, in that "he was just the next in line" kind of thing. And sure, so I chimed in on Michael Vick. Who hasn't? All I've done is make some key observations that you evidently can't live with.
The truth hurts, doesn't it. Now go find all of those "digs" you're so sure I've made. I will be very interested to see what you come up with. I'm not holding my breath.
NEXT!
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Again...McNabb and Vick stood next to each other chatting away for the entire fourth quarter. However anyone feels about the Vick signing, or what it will do to McNabb or the Eagles, the basic premise that started THIS THREAD/DISCUSSION was fatally flawed from the word GO. Whatever happened in that game is a non-issue at this point.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
Reid's wanted to replace McNabb for years. His evil plan is coming to fruition
Steelfan7 said:Johnny Ice said:
McNabb is not a leader and will never lead a team to a Superbowl win.Vick gives the Eagles a better chance to add bling to their fingers.
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