Anyone else get your draft like this? (1 Viewer)

[scottiev]

So in our keep 1 league, there's 12 of us.

We do 16 round drafts.

Before the draft itself, this is how we figure out the positions.

Round 1:

Each person picks a card from the deck (we have A, 2, 3, 4, ..., 10, J, Q)

A gets first pick, Q gets last pick in each round.

We do this for all 16 round to determine the position and then we draft.

Therefore, each round, your position MIGHT change, but then again, you could POSSIBLY get 1st pick in like 10 rounds.

Am I the only 1 in a league like this?

This will be my 2nd yr in this league and this draft ordering makes it a little more interesting.

 

[Roc Pile]

i think that is a horrible idea

why you dont you just put names of players in hats and pick them out

 

[Uncle Randy]

I don't like this format either.

a) adds wasted time to the draft by having to repick cards over, and over, and over...

b) too random. Someone is going to get screwed, and someone else is going to get lucky. I agree, might as well throw all the players in a hat. It would have to be a big hat, though.

 

[scottiev]

I see. I'm not the commish, but they been playing like this and well I joined in last year and it worked out well for me. So I'm not complaining. Just sharing how we draft and just wondered if any other leagues out there draft differently than the normal 1-12, 12-1 orders.

This way (I think) does make you think harder about making the right picks and (although I never thought about it) like you 2 previously stated, really random.

But I'm not complaining.

Thanks.

Any others?

 

[Uncle Randy]

I see. I'm not the commish, but they been playing like this and well I joined in last year and it worked out well for me. So I'm not complaining. Just sharing how we draft and just wondered if any other leagues out there draft differently than the normal 1-12, 12-1 orders.This way (I think) does make you think harder about making the right picks and (although I never thought about it) like you 2 previously stated, really random.But I'm not complaining.Thanks.Any others?

Well, keep us posted after this draft and let us know if you were the one to get screwed and not lucky, and then we'll see who's complaining!

 

[scottiev]

I see. I'm not the commish, but they been playing like this and well I joined in last year and it worked out well for me. So I'm not complaining. Just sharing how we draft and just wondered if any other leagues out there draft differently than the normal 1-12, 12-1 orders.This way (I think) does make you think harder about making the right picks and (although I never thought about it) like you 2 previously stated, really random.But I'm not complaining.Thanks.Any others?

Well, keep us posted after this draft and let us know if you were the one to get screwed and not lucky, and then we'll see who's complaining!

haha...Ok I sure will.

 

[CommuterMan]

I had a league that did this, but rather than each round picking cards we did it only for the odd number rounds. This way you went up and back before you chose a card for the next set of rounds. I guess this reduced the "luck" factor a little... I never liked it but the commish was always big on wanting to break up the draft and add some chance to the draft order.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

I don't like this format either.

a) adds wasted time to the draft by having to repick cards over, and over, and over...

b) too random. Someone is going to get screwed, and someone else is going to get lucky. I agree, might as well throw all the players in a hat. It would have to be a big hat, though.

Last year my league did something similar where the draft order changed each round. We drafted 17 rounds, 1 round a day. We pciked the draft order for each round by having a bar fight. First man down picked last, last man standing picked first. Each day we'd have another bar fight. I think we're doing it the same way this year but throwing chairs and breaking bottles is now illegal.

 

[scottiev]

I don't like this format either.

a) adds wasted time to the draft by having to repick cards over, and over, and over...

b) too random. Someone is going to get screwed, and someone else is going to get lucky. I agree, might as well throw all the players in a hat. It would have to be a big hat, though.

Last year my league did something similar where the draft order changed each round. We drafted 17 rounds, 1 round a day. We pciked the draft order for each round by having a bar fight. First man down picked last, last man standing picked first. Each day we'd have another bar fight. I think we're doing it the same way this year but throwing chairs and breaking bottles is now illegal.

lolz..hillarious!Ours is all on 1 day though.

But lolz...

 

[QuizGuy66]

Back when I used to run a 12-team league, I set up a draft order for the first 12 rounds that made it so that everyone drafted in a different spot in each round. (Each pair of round was serpentine). I think that the 13th and final round was the same as round 2. For example, I know the first 4 rounds went like this:

Team 1: 1-12-10-3

Team 2: 2-11-9-4

Team 3: 3-10-8-5

Team 4: 4-9-7-6

Team 5: 5-8-6-7

Team 6: 6-7-5-8

Team 7: 7-6-4-9

Team 8: 8-5-3-10

Team 9: 9-4-2-11

Team 10: 10-3-1-12

Team 11: 11-2-12-1

Team 12: 12-1-11-2

I had the other 8 rounds spec'd out as well, i just don't recall my exact formula. The second year I did this (it was a redraft league), the owners selected which draft they wanted, based on inverse order of record.

-QG

 

[LongDuckDong]

Why not do the serpentine for 1-2 then another for 3-4, etc...that to me at least keeps value fair across the draft and keeps things interesting.

 

[Cixelsyd]

It's wierd, but I haven't tried it, so I can't really judge... though we had considered it at one time and the big concerns were

1) Luck of the draw, over and over... getting bad draws can kill your team

2) No major draft prep... you don't know where you are drafting round to round, so there is no true strategy, just cheat sheets, and no trading before the draft...

I think it hurts the overall draft, and like you said, it worked out for you last year so you aren't complaining, but if you get the donkey draws you will be pissed off...

 

[amnesiac]

Why not do the serpentine for 1-2 then another for 3-4, etc...that to me at least keeps value fair across the draft and keeps things interesting.

this almost makes sense.i was in a league that did the random order every round, and i was not a fan.

 

[amnesiac]

oh, another problem with the random order every round is that nobody ever knows who's turn it is, which can slow things down.

 

[stealthrunner]

We redraw cards in my 10 team redraft league, but only do it every 4 rounds. Not bad, just a pain in the butt for Draft Dominator users. SIGH

 

[skillz]

In my 12 team keeper league, the first two rounds are set by the records from last year. Rounds 3-18 are decided by a card draw. So draft position is different for every team in rounds 3-4, 5-6, etc. The draft order for the 3-18 rounds is determined by a card draw weeks prior to the draft, so there is no unnecessary time taken during the draft pulling cards, and teams have time to strategize prior to the draft. I am not totally thrilled with the system, but I don't think it is something that we need to change. Our commish adopted the system from a league he was in before our league got started six years ago so I assume other leagues use it as well.

 

[scottiev]

oh, another problem with the random order every round is that nobody ever knows who's turn it is, which can slow things down.

For my league, we draw cards for all 16 rounds to see who's picking where first.And then the real draft starts on picking the players. So we all know who is picking where and when.

 

[Capt Hook]

Somebody mentioned the "Double Serpentine" draft

First two rounds: 1-12 and 12-1

Second two rounds: 12-1 and 1-12

repeating every two rounds - this is the easiest method to balance out the draft, but of course those in the middle are always in the middle.

I used to play in a league where the order changed every two rounds so that each team was first in a round and last in a round, BUT the teams that were first in the later rounds were still at a very slight disadvantage to the first and twelfth picks, but the biggest problem is you had to follow a sheet to figure out whose turn it was.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

We did a variant of this last year In the FFA Varsity league and are doing it again this. We re-order every odd round and serpentine two rounds with that order.

It's fun. What it adds is the likelihood of trades as you'll give up position in a following round if you want to move up NOW.

I like it. But it is tough to manage.

 

[MelvinTScupper]

my league did this from 90-93, back before magazines were really prevalent. More luck was involved, so it didn't seem to bother us. Seems silly now, although the randomness of it EACH round is as fair as anything else.

 

[Z-Dog]

So in our keep 1 league, there's 12 of us.We do 16 round drafts.Before the draft itself, this is how we figure out the positions.Round 1:Each person picks a card from the deck (we have A, 2, 3, 4, ..., 10, J, Q)A gets first pick, Q gets last pick in each round.We do this for all 16 round to determine the position and then we draft.Therefore, each round, your position MIGHT change, but then again, you could POSSIBLY get 1st pick in like 10 rounds. Am I the only 1 in a league like this?This will be my 2nd yr in this league and this draft ordering makes it a little more interesting.

I actually think this is a more fair way, and my leaqgue used to do it this way.Picking 1st overall is in theory the most valuable pick. You pick last in the second, but you're giving away 11 slots in the 2nd to move up 11 slots in the first (compared to picking at the turn). Obviously, the 11 slots in the first that you're gaining are worth more than the 11 slots in the second that you're losing. This is true throughout the draft - the odd number round is more valuable than the even number round that follows it. At least by mixing it up, you're guaranteeing that the guy who picks first in the opening round will have a lesser advantage going forward, and the guy picking at the turn in the first will be better off in later rounds.In practice, I dont' know how much difference it makes. I dont' know if any of the big FF commish providers have done any studies on it, but it would be interesting to see if certani draft slots make the playoffs more often than others.

 

[upirish22]

So in our keep 1 league, there's 12 of us.We do 16 round drafts.Before the draft itself, this is how we figure out the positions.Round 1:Each person picks a card from the deck (we have A, 2, 3, 4, ..., 10, J, Q)A gets first pick, Q gets last pick in each round.We do this for all 16 round to determine the position and then we draft.Therefore, each round, your position MIGHT change, but then again, you could POSSIBLY get 1st pick in like 10 rounds. Am I the only 1 in a league like this?This will be my 2nd yr in this league and this draft ordering makes it a little more interesting.

If That works for you guys fine. We use NFL Style after each year we rank the non playoff teams from worst to to best. Worst getting the first pick, then we rank the playoff teams from worst to champion and order the rest of the draft. Its nice because it gives the people who were horrible some incentive to come back. That way we keep the same 12 people in the league every year. Also you know where you are drafting before the day of the draft which gives you time to prepare stratagies or make deals to trde draft picks with other owners. Which in turn builds the payoff pot up since we charge for each trade.