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derek19

Footballguy
IF not, he reported that the Texan fans are pressuring the Texans to take Vince young rather than Reggie Bush. Will the Texans give in and give the fans what they want or will they draft the best player in the draft???? A team that went 2-12, would it be smart to give them what they to make them happy after a horrible season?

 

Noahs Troopers

Footballguy
IF not, he reported that the Texan fans are pressuring the Texans to take Vince young rather than Reggie Bush.

Will the Texans give in and give the fans what they want or will they draft the best player in the draft???? A team that went 2-12, would it be smart to give them what they to make them happy after a horrible season?
:popcorn:
 

jonessed

Footballguy
VY has become a bit of an icon in Texas and could sell tickets for a long time to come. Not an easy decision for an owner I imagine.

 

moleculo

Footballguy
IF not, he reported that the Texan fans are pressuring the Texans to take Vince young rather than Reggie Bush.

Will the Texans give in and give the fans what they want or will they draft the best player in the draft???? A team that went 2-12, would it be smart to give them what they to make them happy after a horrible season?
Maybe they can draft Vince Young and thereby get the best player in the draft?
 

Bob Henry

Footballguy
The Texans should draft Bush so he'll be wearing their uniform when he's inducted into Canton. Seriously?It's harder to find a potential stud QB then it is to find a stud RB.

 

Charybdis

Footballguy
Normally, you'd figure they could trade down a spot or two and still get Vince, but if he's there at #2 New Orleans will probably take him.

 

packersfan

Footballguy
VY has become a bit of an icon in Texas and could sell tickets for a long time to come. Not an easy decision for an owner I imagine.
Especially when you can make a strong argument they have a better starter at RB than they do at QB.
 

Maurile Tremblay

Administrator
Staff member
"If you listen to the fans and media, you will soon be sitting with them." -- AJ Smith, on the best advice he received from Marv Levy.

 
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BeTheMatch

Let it burn!
"If you listen to the fans and media, you will soon be sitting with them." -- AJ Smith, on the best adviced he received from Marv Levy.
That's a pretty good quote, but AJ Smith is still an idiot!
 

JohnnyU

Footballguy
IF not, he reported that the Texan fans are pressuring the Texans to take Vince young rather than Reggie Bush.

Will the Texans give in and give the fans what they want or will they draft the best player in the draft???? A team that went 2-12, would it be smart to give them what they to make them happy after a horrible season?
Maybe they can draft Vince Young and thereby get the best player in the draft?
Or they can draft VY and ask for a rule change that will allow VY to run as effectively in pros as he did in college. He may turn out to be an effective passer in the NFL, but it won't happen quickly.
 
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Red Apples

Footballguy
IF not, he reported that the Texan fans are pressuring the Texans to take Vince young rather than Reggie Bush.

Will the Texans give in and give the fans what they want or will they draft the best player in the draft???? A team that went 2-12, would it be smart to give them what they to make them happy after a horrible season?
just exactly how do fans pressure a team to do anything.im guessing some dumbasses on sportsradio are calling for this.

 

JohnnyU

Footballguy
Normally, you'd figure they could trade down a spot or two and still get Vince, but if he's there at #2 New Orleans will probably take him.
No way NO takes VY over Leinart.
 
IF not, he reported that the Texan fans are pressuring the Texans to take Vince young rather than Reggie Bush.

Will the Texans give in and give the fans what they want or will they draft the best player in the draft???? A team that went 2-12, would it be smart to give them what they to make them happy after a horrible season?
I would love to see an organization cave in like that, and pay for it for years. :yes:
 

BassNBrew

IBL Representative
Normally, you'd figure they could trade down a spot or two and still get Vince, but if he's there at #2 New Orleans will probably take him.
If they want to go that route, why wouldn't they stick with Brooks? Weren't the skill sets and styles similiar?
 

Gargoylez

Footballguy
IF not, he reported that the Texan fans are pressuring the Texans to take Vince young rather than Reggie Bush.

Will the Texans give in and give the fans what they want or will they draft the best player in the draft???? A team that went 2-12, would it be smart to give them what they to make them happy after a horrible season?
Maybe they can draft Vince Young and thereby get the best player in the draft?
WOW. Not even close. Tearing up a suspect USC defense doesn't even get him close to the best player. All he is going to be is a running QB in the mold of vick. Lets get a subpar scrambling QB... maybe the Texans can bring back teh lateral and wishbone formations too.

Bush is the best player in the draft. Period. not even debatable. Leinart is a better Qb anyways.

 

Marc Levin

Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
How about a draft and trade?Draft Bush and see if someone who drafts Vince is wil to make the trade - can't imagine Tenn. making the trade, but a team like the NY Jets def. might trade away Young in favor of Bush.I could easily see the Texans opting to simply go ahead and take Vince anyway and pass on Bush, but not if they think they can trade Bush away, get Vince AND get some stuff in return (like next year's number one from some crappy team).

 

Marc Levin

Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
IF not, he reported that the Texan fans are pressuring the Texans to take Vince young rather than Reggie Bush.

Will the Texans give in and give the fans what they want or will they draft the best player in the draft???? A team that went 2-12, would it be smart to give them what they to make them happy after a horrible season?
Maybe they can draft Vince Young and thereby get the best player in the draft?
WOW. Not even close. Tearing up a suspect USC defense doesn't even get him close to the best player. All he is going to be is a running QB in the mold of vick. Lets get a subpar scrambling QB... maybe the Texans can bring back teh lateral and wishbone formations too.

Bush is the best player in the draft. Period. not even debatable. Leinart is a better Qb anyways.
:rolleyes: Nice to see someone with an open mind commenting here.

 

moleculo

Footballguy
IF not, he reported that the Texan fans are pressuring the Texans to take Vince young rather than Reggie Bush.

Will the Texans give in and give the fans what they want or will they draft the best player in the draft???? A team that went 2-12, would it be smart to give them what they to make them happy after a horrible season?
Maybe they can draft Vince Young and thereby get the best player in the draft?
WOW. Not even close. Tearing up a suspect USC defense doesn't even get him close to the best player. All he is going to be is a running QB in the mold of vick. Lets get a subpar scrambling QB... maybe the Texans can bring back teh lateral and wishbone formations too.

Bush is the best player in the draft. Period. not even debatable. Leinart is a better Qb anyways.
umm, it is debatable. I'd show you a list of threads debating this, but I'm too lazy.
 

Houston turmOiler

Footballguy
What the hell, it's not like Carr is worth a crap anyway. Yeah, I know all about the OLine, but Carr's got no pocket presence and some of those sacks are his own fault. Anyone remember how bad the Colts' OL was prior to Peyton's arrival? A good QB can help ease the pressure on the OL quite a bit without major upgrades; Carr's more like Rob Johnson in this respect. Regardless if you agree with that point or not, can anyone picture Carr ever holding a Lombardi Trophy after leading his team to a Super Bowl win? I sure can't. His intagibles suck, which leads me to Vince. Not even counting his physical abilities, Young's poise and leadership skills already have Carr licked. To me, that's half the battle of playing QB in the NFL and the biggest reason Vince will be successful on the next level. It takes more than a strong arm to be a good NFL QB. Carr's a perfect example. Bush would also be a terrific pick, but I just think franchise QBs are extremely difficult to find. My personal opinion from watching every game for 4 years is that Carr isn't one. You really don't need a sure-fire stud RB to win, but few teams go far without a standout QB. Besides, it's every Houston fan's nightmare to see another local star slip through the cracks, especially if it's to play for our ultimate enemy Bud Adams and the Tennessee Titans... :X

 

Gargoylez

Footballguy
IF not, he reported that the Texan fans are pressuring the Texans to take Vince young rather than Reggie Bush.

Will the Texans give in and give the fans what they want or will they draft the best player in the draft???? A team that went 2-12, would it be smart to give them what they to make them happy after a horrible season?
Maybe they can draft Vince Young and thereby get the best player in the draft?
WOW. Not even close. Tearing up a suspect USC defense doesn't even get him close to the best player. All he is going to be is a running QB in the mold of vick. Lets get a subpar scrambling QB... maybe the Texans can bring back teh lateral and wishbone formations too.

Bush is the best player in the draft. Period. not even debatable. Leinart is a better Qb anyways.
:rolleyes: Nice to see someone with an open mind commenting here.
Yeah I know... I admit, Im not a big fan of Young. Just sick of hearing how he is going to be great, and I could pretty much guarentee if he gets on 28-29 different teams he will SUCK. But a team like Tenessee who has someone who could TRULY mentor him, he could do well.But him on the Texans, he would be wretched.

 

babydemon90

Footballguy
IF not, he reported that the Texan fans are pressuring the Texans to take Vince young rather than Reggie Bush.

Will the Texans give in and give the fans what they want or will they draft the best player in the draft???? A team that went 2-12, would it be smart to give them what they to make them happy after a horrible season?
Maybe they can draft Vince Young and thereby get the best player in the draft?
WOW. Not even close. Tearing up a suspect USC defense doesn't even get him close to the best player. All he is going to be is a running QB in the mold of vickMcNabb. Lets get a subpar scrambling QB... maybe the Texans can bring back teh lateral and wishbone formations too.

Bush is the best player in the draft. Period. not even debatable. Leinart is a better Qb anyways.
fixed
 

Houston turmOiler

Footballguy
IF not, he reported that the Texan fans are pressuring the Texans to take Vince young rather than Reggie Bush.

Will the Texans give in and give the fans what they want or will they draft the best player in the draft???? A team that went 2-12, would it be smart to give them what they to make them happy after a horrible season?
I would love to see an organization cave in like that, and pay for it for years. :yes:
...like it would be any worse than watching Carr the last 4 years?
 

jurb26

Footballguy
Fans are much like children. They have highs and lows and often cry and complain. They spew of emotion and often times can not sperate emotion from reality. Deep down inside though, the are really just waiting for someone smarter than them to tell them what is best for them. Hou drafts Bush and the fans learn to like it, cause it's what is best for them.

 
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cobalt_27

Footballguy
How about a draft and trade?

Draft Bush and see if someone who drafts Vince is wil to make the trade - can't imagine Tenn. making the trade, but a team like the NY Jets def. might trade away Young in favor of Bush.

I could easily see the Texans opting to simply go ahead and take Vince anyway and pass on Bush, but not if they think they can trade Bush away, get Vince AND get some stuff in return (like next year's number one from some crappy team).
Why would HOU draft and trade for Young when he's going to be a total dog in the NFL? I cannot believe the hype this guy is getting.It's Bush, Leinert, and then the rest.

 

brednbuddah

Footballguy
VY has become a bit of an icon in Texas and could sell tickets for a long time to come. Not an easy decision for an owner I imagine.
wasn't the same true with Detroit when Charles Rogers came out? How'd that work out?
 

Iron_Far

Footballguy
What the hell, it's not like Carr is worth a crap anyway. Yeah, I know all about the OLine, but Carr's got no pocket presence and some of those sacks are his own fault. Anyone remember how bad the Colts' OL was prior to Peyton's arrival? A good QB can help ease the pressure on the OL quite a bit without major upgrades; Carr's more like Rob Johnson in this respect. Regardless if you agree with that point or not, can anyone picture Carr ever holding a Lombardi Trophy after leading his team to a Super Bowl win? I sure can't. His intagibles suck, which leads me to Vince. Not even counting his physical abilities, Young's poise and leadership skills already have Carr licked. To me, that's half the battle of playing QB in the NFL and the biggest reason Vince will be successful on the next level. It takes more than a strong arm to be a good NFL QB. Carr's a perfect example.

Bush would also be a terrific pick, but I just think franchise QBs are extremely difficult to find. My personal opinion from watching every game for 4 years is that Carr isn't one. You really don't need a sure-fire stud RB to win, but few teams go far without a standout QB. Besides, it's every Houston fan's nightmare to see another local star slip through the cracks, especially if it's to play for our ultimate enemy Bud Adams and the Tennessee Titans... :X
Forgot about the Titans - Texans animosity in all of this debate. :goodposting: :yes: Simply put, as ugly as he throws, the Texans cannot pass up on Young because of various factors unrelated to his actual football talent (of which I think there is plenty of).

This isn't Charles Rogers; Young strikes me as someone that can handle the hype and pressure of being the "Hometown Savior".

Houston will have MUCh more regret if they passed up on Young and he turns out to be a stud, than if they passed on Bush and he turns out to be Sanders or Faulk.

 

-OZ-

Footballguy
Normally, you'd figure they could trade down a spot or two and still get Vince, but if he's there at #2 New Orleans will probably take him.
If they want to go that route, why wouldn't they stick with Brooks? Weren't the skill sets and styles similiar?
Physical skills, sure.But the most important asset a QB has is his leadership ability. Young has it, Brooks does not.

 

Marc Levin

Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
How about a draft and trade?

Draft Bush and see if someone who drafts Vince is wil to make the trade - can't imagine Tenn. making the trade, but a team like the NY Jets def. might trade away Young in favor of Bush.

I could easily see the Texans opting to simply go ahead and take Vince anyway and pass on Bush, but not if they think they can trade Bush away, get Vince AND get some stuff in return (like next year's number one from some crappy team).
Why would HOU draft and trade for Young when he's going to be a total dog in the NFL? I cannot believe the hype this guy is getting.It's Bush, Leinert, and then the rest.
b/c for two years, the texans would sell out their stadium.And that is a HORRIBLE assumption to make (that Young wil be a dog in the NFL) - I think he needs some time to develop his delivery, but he has a LOT of raw talent - esp. in his arm strength.

I have not seen a QB able to muscle the ball across the field and throw across his body and throw an accurate pass in a long time - like since Elway/Favre/Marino - regardless of how raw he is, Young will be exciting to watch play.

Plus, he's like C-Pepp/Mcnabb - VERY hard to bring down in the backfield.

I don't think he will wash out in the NFL, but I don't think he is as sure a pro bowl prospect as Reggie bush is - at least not for years 1 and 2.

 
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Marc Levin

Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
VY has become a bit of an icon in Texas and could sell tickets for a long time to come.  Not an easy decision for an owner I imagine.
wasn't the same true with Detroit when Charles Rogers came out? How'd that work out?
CRog got HURT his first two years, and he doesn't touch the ball EVERY play - he'd be lucky to see the ball come his way 10 times a game - the QB touches the ball 40-60 times each and every game.Not even close to the same analogy.

 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
"If you listen to the fans and media, you will soon be sitting with them." -- AJ Smith, on the best advice he received from Marv Levy.
:goodposting: Despite the 2005 debacle, the Eagles are widely held as one of the better run franchises in the last five years. If it were up to the Philly fans, the team would have...

Drafted Ricky Williams instead of Donovan McNabb

Picked "anyone" besides three defensive backs the year we drafted Sheldon Brown, Lito Sheppard and Michael Brown
Re-signed Shawn Barber
Re-signed Jeremiah Trotter to the biggest contract by a LB in league history
Re-signed Troy Vincent AND Bobby Taylor
Re-signed Hugh Douglas when he left for Jacksonville
 

Colin Dowling

Footballguy
IIRC, they just excersized Carr's option. THat makes them idiots for devaluing the #1 pick, but it also says they aren't taking a QB.

 

GregR_2

Footballguy
I think Young has the better physical skills between he and Leinart, but one thing that impressed me about Leinart is that he's seemed to have more NFL-type responsibility on his shoulders in terms of reading defenses, checking out of plays, etc. From various discussions in the media, it sounds like Vince didn't have nearly as much of that. I did have Young ahead of Leinart initially, but I've been reconsidering of late. I like Young's poise and leadership, but I don't think Leinart is lacking in those either.In any event though, unless Carr agrees to a sign and trade that doesn't include an $8 mil cap hit, I don't see that the Texans are better off taking a QB. Given time Carr can be a very serviceable, if not outright good QB. In 2004 he was 12th in the NFL in passing and 16th in QB rating, while playing behind a line that was still one of the worst pass blocking units in football.A better coach and scheme could do wonders with him. I'd rather see the Texans take Bush, or trade down if they can get enough to make it worth their while.

 
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Marc Levin

Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
IIRC, they just excersized Carr's option. THat makes them idiots for devaluing the #1 pick, but it also says they aren't taking a QB.
I thought they had until March first to majke that decision - why would they make that decision now instead of then?
 

-OZ-

Footballguy
"If you listen to the fans and media, you will soon be sitting with them." -- AJ Smith, on the best advice he received from Marv Levy.
:goodposting: Despite the 2005 debacle, the Eagles are widely held as one of the better run franchises in the last five years. If it were up to the Philly fans, the team would have...

Drafted Ricky Williams instead of Donovan McNabb

Picked "anyone" besides three defensive backs the year we drafted Sheldon Brown, Lito Sheppard and Michael Brown
Re-signed Shawn Barber
Re-signed Jeremiah Trotter to the biggest contract by a LB in league history
Re-signed Troy Vincent AND Bobby Taylor
Re-signed Hugh Douglas when he left for Jacksonville
Yeah, but don't confuse Houston for a team that has a clue.If the Lions had listened to fans last year they would have Derrick Johnson instead of Mike Williams.

 

Colin Dowling

Footballguy
IIRC, they just excersized Carr's option.  THat makes them idiots for devaluing the #1 pick, but it also says they aren't taking a QB.
I thought they had until March first to majke that decision - why would they make that decision now instead of then?
Because they are stupid. Seriously.

 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
IIRC, they just excersized Carr's option.  THat makes them idiots for devaluing the #1 pick, but it also says they aren't taking a QB.
I thought they had until March first to majke that decision - why would they make that decision now instead of then?
Because they are stupid. Seriously.
The Texans have nothing to lose be declaring their intentions. They have the 1st pick. Regardless of who they intend to draft at 1, they WILL get significant offers to trade down. Casserly loses nothing by suggesting it's Bush, regardless of whether that's who he really wants.
 

Sopranos

Footballguy
What the hell, it's not like Carr is worth a crap anyway. Yeah, I know all about the OLine, but Carr's got no pocket presence and some of those sacks are his own fault. Anyone remember how bad the Colts' OL was prior to Peyton's arrival? A good QB can help ease the pressure on the OL quite a bit without major upgrades; Carr's more like Rob Johnson in this respect. Regardless if you agree with that point or not, can anyone picture Carr ever holding a Lombardi Trophy after leading his team to a Super Bowl win? I sure can't. His intagibles suck, which leads me to Vince. Not even counting his physical abilities, Young's poise and leadership skills already have Carr licked. To me, that's half the battle of playing QB in the NFL and the biggest reason Vince will be successful on the next level. It takes more than a strong arm to be a good NFL QB. Carr's a perfect example.

Bush would also be a terrific pick, but I just think franchise QBs are extremely difficult to find. My personal opinion from watching every game for 4 years is that Carr isn't one. You really don't need a sure-fire stud RB to win, but few teams go far without a standout QB. Besides, it's every Houston fan's nightmare to see another local star slip through the cracks, especially if it's to play for our ultimate enemy Bud Adams and the Tennessee Titans... :X
:goodposting:
 
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cosmonaut

Footballguy
IF not, he reported that the Texan fans are pressuring the Texans to take Vince young rather than Reggie Bush.

Will the Texans give in and give the fans what they want or will they draft the best player in the draft???? A team that went 2-12, would it be smart to give them what they to make them happy after a horrible season?
I would love to see an organization cave in like that, and pay for it for years. :yes:
With the second pick, the Lions select Charles Rogers from Michigan State.
 

Cookiemonster

Footballguy
IIRC, they just excersized Carr's option.  THat makes them idiots for devaluing the #1 pick, but it also says they aren't taking a QB.
I thought they had until March first to majke that decision - why would they make that decision now instead of then?
Because they are stupid. Seriously.
The Texans have nothing to lose be declaring their intentions. They have the 1st pick. Regardless of who they intend to draft at 1, they WILL get significant offers to trade down. Casserly loses nothing by suggesting it's Bush, regardless of whether that's who he really wants.
Add to the fact that they will still get offers, I would speculate that they WANT Bush, and don't really care what the value is. Besides, there appears to be 3 solid options at QB in the 1st round. While there are several potential 1st round backs, most of them appear headed for the 2nd/3rd rounds. Bush has been getting sick praise and hype for two years now, and Houston appears ready to have him play for them.
 

nygiants56

Footballguy
IF not, he reported that the Texan fans are pressuring the Texans to take Vince young rather than Reggie Bush.

Will the Texans give in and give the fans what they want or will they draft the best player in the draft???? A team that went 2-12, would it be smart to give them what they to make them happy after a horrible season?
Maybe they can draft Vince Young and thereby get the best player in the draft?
WOW. Not even close. Tearing up a suspect USC defense doesn't even get him close to the best player. All he is going to be is a running QB in the mold of vick. Lets get a subpar scrambling QB... maybe the Texans can bring back teh lateral and wishbone formations too.

Bush is the best player in the draft. Period. not even debatable. Leinart is a better Qb anyways.
:rolleyes: Nice to see someone with an open mind commenting here.
Yeah I know... I admit, Im not a big fan of Young. Just sick of hearing how he is going to be great, and I could pretty much guarentee if he gets on 28-29 different teams he will SUCK. But a team like Tenessee who has someone who could TRULY mentor him, he could do well.But him on the Texans, he would be wretched.
:goodposting: Young SUCKS. He will take alot time to develop, far more time than Leinhart will. I don't know about you, but when I watch Vince Young, i see Kordell Stewart.

 

beef

Footballguy
the fans will eventually forgive the team.re: [eagles fans]BOOOOOOO![/eagles fans] to the McNabb pick over Ricky.

 
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sho nuff

Footballguy
Fans as well as an owner who would not like to see ol Bud Adams end up with Young and bring him into Houston and whip the Texans every year.There is alot to this besides just the fans. Read and listen to John McClain of the Houston Chronicle.

Imagine what it would have been like if the Oilers had passed up Earl Campbell in 1978 and he would have played his Pro Football Hall of Fame career in Cincinnati or Cleveland.Because the Bengals and Browns were AFC Central rivals, the Oilers would have played against Campbell twice a year, including once every season in the Astrodome.Now, imagine what it would be like if the Texans pass up Young, and he ends up with Tennessee.That means Bud Adams would get him, and the Texans would have to play against Young twice a year, including once every season in Reliant Stadium.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports...nt/3579159.html
 

pigskinliquors

Dr. Parrothead
While I believe VY has great potential; I think (IMHO) he's at best the 3rd best QB in the short-term (Leinart & Cutler); and Houston needs to win soon. VY may develop into the best qb of the bunch, but Cutler and Leinart are more likely to be able to play soon, in this "win for us now" world.

 

Real Man of Genius

Footballguy
IF not, he reported that the Texan fans are pressuring the Texans to take Vince young rather than Reggie Bush.

Will the Texans give in and give the fans what they want or will they draft the best player in the draft???? A team that went 2-12, would it be smart to give them what they to make them happy after a horrible season?
Maybe they can draft Vince Young and thereby get the best player in the draft?
WOW. Not even close. Tearing up a suspect USC defense doesn't even get him close to the best player. All he is going to be is a running QB in the mold of vick. Lets get a subpar scrambling QB... maybe the Texans can bring back teh lateral and wishbone formations too.

Bush is the best player in the draft. Period. not even debatable. Leinart is a better Qb anyways.
:rolleyes: Nice to see someone with an open mind commenting here.
Yeah I know... I admit, Im not a big fan of Young. Just sick of hearing how he is going to be great, and I could pretty much guarentee if he gets on 28-29 different teams he will SUCK. But a team like Tenessee who has someone who could TRULY mentor him, he could do well.But him on the Texans, he would be wretched.
:goodposting: Young SUCKS. He will take alot time to develop, far more time than Leinhart will. I don't know about you, but when I watch Vince Young, i see Kordell Stewart.
You haven't watched much Vince Young.
 

MSULions

Footballguy
IF not, he reported that the Texan fans are pressuring the Texans to take Vince young rather than Reggie Bush.

Will the Texans give in and give the fans what they want or will they draft the best player in the draft???? A team that went 2-12, would it be smart to give them what they to make them happy after a horrible season?
I would love to see an organization cave in like that, and pay for it for years. :yes:
With the second pick, the Lions select Charles Rogers from Michigan State.
that's easy to say now, but he was the surest thing at WR the draft had seen in years....
 

cstu

Footballguy
What the hell, it's not like Carr is worth a crap anyway. Yeah, I know all about the OLine, but Carr's got no pocket presence and some of those sacks are his own fault. Anyone remember how bad the Colts' OL was prior to Peyton's arrival? A good QB can help ease the pressure on the OL quite a bit without major upgrades; Carr's more like Rob Johnson in this respect. Regardless if you agree with that point or not, can anyone picture Carr ever holding a Lombardi Trophy after leading his team to a Super Bowl win? I sure can't. His intagibles suck, which leads me to Vince. Not even counting his physical abilities, Young's poise and leadership skills already have Carr licked. To me, that's half the battle of playing QB in the NFL and the biggest reason Vince will be successful on the next level. It takes more than a strong arm to be a good NFL QB. Carr's a perfect example.

Bush would also be a terrific pick, but I just think franchise QBs are extremely difficult to find. My personal opinion from watching every game for 4 years is that Carr isn't one. You really don't need a sure-fire stud RB to win, but few teams go far without a standout QB. Besides, it's every Houston fan's nightmare to see another local star slip through the cracks, especially if it's to play for our ultimate enemy Bud Adams and the Tennessee Titans... :X
I'd love to see the Texans give up on Carr and to watch him succeed in a organization that knows how to put a team together...for example, the Cowboys.
 

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