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Anyone here play H2H non roto/non points league? (1 Viewer)

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My league is 5x5, h2h, non-roto...for example, if I have 4 saves and my opponent has 3, I win the category for the week. Same goes if I have 50 and he has 1.

How does this alter the strategy? I would assume that guys who steal a ton of basis are valued greater b/c 1 guy can basically win you 1 category each week.

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I'm in 2 of these leagues.

7X7 H2H weekly leagues with daily lineup changes - games run from Monday to Sunday

Hitting categories: R, HR, RBI, K, SB, AVG, OBP

Pitching categories: W, L, K, ERA, WHIP, Saves, Holds

Kinda combines fantasy football & baseball - you get the weekly matchup vs a new opponenet every week. If I beat my opponent 10-4 in categories for the week my record is 10-4 after that week.

IMO it beats the marathon/drag known as roto where there isn't much change in standings throughout the year.

 
Make sure your league has owners with enough integrity to field a solid lineup throughout the year, even if they fall behind in the race. A 10-0 or 12-2 week where the losing team is starting a bunch of DL guys can have huge impact on the overall standings.

Disinterested owners can happen in any league but this scoring format is particularly vulnerable if someone checks out early.

 
Make sure your league has owners with enough integrity to field a solid lineup throughout the year, even if they fall behind in the race. A 10-0 or 12-2 week where the losing team is starting a bunch of DL guys can have huge impact on the overall standings.Disinterested owners can happen in any league but this scoring format is particularly vulnerable if someone checks out early.
Agreed - but I think the same happens in Roto. When half the league in roto has no shot at winning anything by the All Star Break you lose a lot of teams. With H2H a 14-0 or 13-1 win one week definitely moves you up in the standings.Tiger fan: Almost same strategy as roto. While a player such as Wllie Tavares might steal 100 bases for you he might kill you with avg & obp.
 
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Make sure your league has owners with enough integrity to field a solid lineup throughout the year, even if they fall behind in the race. A 10-0 or 12-2 week where the losing team is starting a bunch of DL guys can have huge impact on the overall standings.Disinterested owners can happen in any league but this scoring format is particularly vulnerable if someone checks out early.
Agreed - but I think the same happens in Roto. When half the league in roto has no shot at winning anything by the All Star Break you lose a lot of teams. With H2H a 14-0 or 13-1 win one week definitely moves you up in the standings.Tiger fan: Almost same strategy as roto. While a player such as Wllie Tavares might steal 100 bases for you he might kill you with avg & obp.
Yes, in every H2H leeg I have been in- the eventual winner was the one playing the most quitters the second half of the season.
 
Make sure your league has owners with enough integrity to field a solid lineup throughout the year, even if they fall behind in the race. A 10-0 or 12-2 week where the losing team is starting a bunch of DL guys can have huge impact on the overall standings.Disinterested owners can happen in any league but this scoring format is particularly vulnerable if someone checks out early.
Agreed - but I think the same happens in Roto. When half the league has no shot at winning anything by the All Star Break you lose a lot of teams.Tiger fan: Almost same strategy as roto. While a player such as Wllie Tavares might steal 100 bases for you he might kill you with avg & obp.
True, but an abandoned ship in roto will result in relatively minor scoring shifts. The problem in H2H with category scoring is a 10-0 week over a ghost team could wipe out a couple of months of hard fought wins.
 
Isn't it basically roto, but since HTH it is roto vs. 1 team (per week) rather than comparing vs. 12, 14, 15, etc. teams?

Don't really understand awarding 10-4 or 12-2 in the standings. I would think that would be the score of the HTH game. Give it 1 win in the standings, and the other guy, 1 loss.

Note this may expose as thinking too much as a fantasy football guy.

 
Isn't it basically roto, but since HTH it is roto vs. 1 team (per week) rather than comparing vs. 12, 14, 15, etc. teams?Don't really understand awarding 10-4 or 12-2 in the standings. I would think that would be the score of the HTH game. Give it 1 win in the standings, and the other guy, 1 loss.Note this may expose as thinking too much as a fantasy football guy.
This is how I run my league. We have 16 categories though. H2H for a week against a team. At the end of the week the categories may be 9-7 (which happens a lot) so the guy with 9 "runs" gets 1 win. Total runs are a tiebreaker down the line if need be. So there are 22 games in the season before the playoffs.Where I see the strategy take place is in the starting lineup. If the guy are facing is RBI heavy account for it in your weekly lineup. Our SP/RP rules allow for the possibility that someone who is really a SP qualify as a RP and therefore there are a few teams that will have several 3 start pitchers all over the place, even in the RP position. Saves themselves aren't as important in those matchips as the other categories.
 
Isn't it basically roto, but since HTH it is roto vs. 1 team (per week) rather than comparing vs. 12, 14, 15, etc. teams?Don't really understand awarding 10-4 or 12-2 in the standings. I would think that would be the score of the HTH game. Give it 1 win in the standings, and the other guy, 1 loss.Note this may expose as thinking too much as a fantasy football guy.
this is exactly how it's run in my league
 
MAC_32 said:
How deep is your league? teams? rosters? min IP's/week? max IP's/week?
12 teams, 27 people on roster, no min/max IPs/week.C, 1b, 2b, ss, 3b, 3 of, 1 ut5sp, 4rp
No min IP? I'd ignore starting pitching and try to win 6 of the other 8 cats each week. Draft nothing but bats and closers, sprinkle in some specialists (middle relievers with good ratios + a Mark Reynolds + a Willy Tavares) and you're good to go.
 
MAC_32 said:
How deep is your league? teams? rosters? min IP's/week? max IP's/week?
12 teams, 27 people on roster, no min/max IPs/week.C, 1b, 2b, ss, 3b, 3 of, 1 ut5sp, 4rp
No min IP? I'd ignore starting pitching and try to win 6 of the other 8 cats each week. Draft nothing but bats and closers, sprinkle in some specialists (middle relievers with good ratios + a Mark Reynolds + a Willy Tavares) and you're good to go.
Keeper league - Here's my 8 likely keepers:Morneau, Uggla, Michael Young, Ellsbury, Quinten, Bay, Pence, OswaltOther noteables: Ethier, Chris Young (SP)
 
MAC_32 said:
How deep is your league? teams? rosters? min IP's/week? max IP's/week?
12 teams, 27 people on roster, no min/max IPs/week.C, 1b, 2b, ss, 3b, 3 of, 1 ut5sp, 4rp
No min IP? I'd ignore starting pitching and try to win 6 of the other 8 cats each week. Draft nothing but bats and closers, sprinkle in some specialists (middle relievers with good ratios + a Mark Reynolds + a Willy Tavares) and you're good to go.
Keeper league - Here's my 8 likely keepers:Morneau, Uggla, Michael Young, Ellsbury, Quinten, Bay, Pence, OswaltOther noteables: Ethier, Chris Young (SP)
I'll be honest, those are not pretty keepers. I think most of those players won't live up to their draft position, not really sure what I'd do if I were you because I'd be trying to trade everyone on that roster outside of Bay and Quentin...maybe Ellsbury too, depending what sort of return I got. There's not much speed on this team and he's not going to carry you most weeks so he doesn't provide much value to you.
 
MAC_32 said:
Tiger Fan said:
MAC_32 said:
Tiger Fan said:
MAC_32 said:
How deep is your league? teams? rosters? min IP's/week? max IP's/week?
12 teams, 27 people on roster, no min/max IPs/week.C, 1b, 2b, ss, 3b, 3 of, 1 ut5sp, 4rp
No min IP? I'd ignore starting pitching and try to win 6 of the other 8 cats each week. Draft nothing but bats and closers, sprinkle in some specialists (middle relievers with good ratios + a Mark Reynolds + a Willy Tavares) and you're good to go.
Keeper league - Here's my 8 likely keepers:Morneau, Uggla, Michael Young, Ellsbury, Quinten, Bay, Pence, OswaltOther noteables: Ethier, Chris Young (SP)
I'll be honest, those are not pretty keepers. I think most of those players won't live up to their draft position, not really sure what I'd do if I were you because I'd be trying to trade everyone on that roster outside of Bay and Quentin...maybe Ellsbury too, depending what sort of return I got. There's not much speed on this team and he's not going to carry you most weeks so he doesn't provide much value to you.
I agree. I finished last in 2008, so i get the 1st pick in each round. I also have an additional 1st, 2nd and 4th through trades. I'm currently trying to trade Oswalt, and I figure if I get another player who can get some decent steals (maybe a Russel Martin) I can lock up that category for the most part.
 
MAC_32 said:
Tiger Fan said:
MAC_32 said:
Tiger Fan said:
MAC_32 said:
How deep is your league? teams? rosters? min IP's/week? max IP's/week?
12 teams, 27 people on roster, no min/max IPs/week.C, 1b, 2b, ss, 3b, 3 of, 1 ut5sp, 4rp
No min IP? I'd ignore starting pitching and try to win 6 of the other 8 cats each week. Draft nothing but bats and closers, sprinkle in some specialists (middle relievers with good ratios + a Mark Reynolds + a Willy Tavares) and you're good to go.
Keeper league - Here's my 8 likely keepers:Morneau, Uggla, Michael Young, Ellsbury, Quinten, Bay, Pence, OswaltOther noteables: Ethier, Chris Young (SP)
I'll be honest, those are not pretty keepers. I think most of those players won't live up to their draft position, not really sure what I'd do if I were you because I'd be trying to trade everyone on that roster outside of Bay and Quentin...maybe Ellsbury too, depending what sort of return I got. There's not much speed on this team and he's not going to carry you most weeks so he doesn't provide much value to you.
I agree. I finished last in 2008, so i get the 1st pick in each round. I also have an additional 1st, 2nd and 4th through trades. I'm currently trying to trade Oswalt, and I figure if I get another player who can get some decent steals (maybe a Russel Martin) I can lock up that category for the most part.
I'd definitely Keep Oswalt. First half of last year was an abberation. He's money.
 
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