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Archuleta Signs with the Redskins (1 Viewer)

All bad signings so far ...imo. THey are way over-paying for scrubs!!!! I do however like the Lloyd trade.

Stupid foreskins

 
All bad signings so far ...imo. THey are way over-paying for scrubs!!!! I do however like the Lloyd trade.

Stupid foreskins
Redskins | Lloyd will get a new contractSun, 12 Mar 2006 20:37:49 -0800

The Washington Post reports the Washington Redskins will give WR Brandon Lloyd a new contract. According to several league sources, the new contract will reach up to $10 million in guaranteed money and could average close to $5.5 million per season.

I too like the "trade" to get Lloyd, do you like paying 5.5 a year for Lloyd? El is making near the same, they gonna spend 11 million on a 2nd and 3rd WR? Moss is still #1 there, why would they pay 5.5 million to either El or Lloyd where one of them is the #3 wr? Does Stokely even get that much?

 
Snyder is working hard to show how assinine the cap is. (or nonexistent)

I actually like the signings, but this is out of hand.

 
All bad signings so far ...imo. THey are way over-paying for scrubs!!!! I do however like the Lloyd trade.

Stupid foreskins
You know, I am a Dallas fan and as soon as a poster calls the redskins "foreskins" I stop paying attention to themCome on, are we in the 4th grade? When someone calls dallas the "cowgirls" does it seem witty to you?

Seriously, anyone who keeps doing this needs to just lay off.

 
How are the skins signing all these players when they are so close to the CAP ??
Release of several vets, including a few with huge cap numbers like Lavar Arrington($13+mil) and restructured a few vets, including Mark Brunell.
 
ESPN is reporting close to $5million per year with $10million guaranteed.

I agree with several of the above posters that signing scrubs for this type of cash is bad.

 
They do this every year. And while as an Eagle's fan it may be frustrating, I always keep two things in mind:

1. This turnover every year deprives them of a major piece of the puzzle...continuity.

2. Brunell/Campbell

 
Does this deal signal a high probability that STaylor may not play next year? I am sure the WASH org is following the case closely.

 
The thing that amazes me in this thread is people characterizing Archuleta as a scrub. He's a very good in-the-box SS.

 
Does this deal signal a high probability that STaylor may not play next year? I am sure the WASH org is following the case closely.
Taylor's the FS, Arch the SS.
 
At first I was upset watching the Redskins toss out tons of money in FA even after they were one of the most cash strapped teams before the new CBA. But then I realized that the Redskins are just the Dodgers/Orioles of the NFL. They're willing to spend tons and tons of money, but it's just not spent well.

Spending more money does give you a competitive advantage, but it doesn't guarantee you a good team. Outside of the RBs available and a few o-lineman, this was a pretty weak year for FAs. For the Redskins to go out and spend money like drunken sailors is just laughable. $11M a year for Brandon Lloyd and Randel-El? Did I miss the seasons where those guys had 100 receptions or 1000 yards in a season?

I almost hate to say it, but I'd love to see total NFL revenues level off. If that happened guys like Snyder would be in a lot of trouble.

This is just proof that the cash over cap issue didn't get resolved at all and that the smaller teams are at an even greater competitive disadvantage.

 
The thing that amazes me in this thread is people characterizing Archuleta as a scrub. He's a very good in-the-box SS.
Finally...a voice of reason. Archuleta was the undisputed #1 safety in free agency this offseason.

 
Does this deal signal a high probability that STaylor may not play next year? I am sure the WASH org is following the case closely.
No, it points out that Ryan Clark / Matt Bowen weren't that good.
 
Does this deal signal a high probability that STaylor may not play next year?  I am sure the WASH org is following the case closely.
Taylor = FSArchuleta = SS
They can each play both. My point was more of dollars spent. No need to spend huge cash on a SS when you have Taylor. But if he is gone...and link

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9304905

"He also provides insurance in case Sean Taylor misses playing time because of aggravated assault charges in Florida."

 
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I thought Sean Taylor is going to prison for a minimum of 5 years, it's a mandatory sentence in Florida when you pull out a gun, you go to prison and there was nothing written in the law that it doesn't apply to rich football players. Prepare for no Sean Taylor, Jeb Bush will make sure he serves his sentence.

 
I thought Sean Taylor is going to prison for a minimum of 5 years, it's a mandatory sentence in Florida when you pull out a gun, you go to prison and there was nothing written in the law that it doesn't apply to rich football players. Prepare for no Sean Taylor, Jeb Bush will make sure he serves his sentence.
Was he convicted?
 
I thought Sean Taylor is going to prison for a minimum of 5 years, it's a mandatory sentence in Florida when you pull out a gun, you go to prison and there was nothing written in the law that it doesn't apply to rich football players. Prepare for no Sean Taylor, Jeb Bush will make sure he serves his sentence.
Was he convicted?
Law: Pull a gun, go to prison, MANDATORYWas he convicted? No, not yet, but logic says "Taylor pulled a gun, Pulling a gun and you go to prison, therefore Sean is going to prison". It's very simple logic.

 
Does this deal signal a high probability that STaylor may not play next year?  I am sure the WASH org is following the case closely.
Taylor = FSArchuleta = SS
They can each play both. My point was more of dollars spent. No need to spend huge cash on a SS when you have Taylor. But if he is gone...and link

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9304905

"He also provides insurance in case Sean Taylor misses playing time because of aggravated assault charges in Florida."
Believe me...Archuleta CANNOT play FS. No way...no how.
 
Law: Pull a gun, go to prison, MANDATORY

Was he convicted? No, not yet, but logic says "Taylor pulled a gun, Pulling a gun and you go to prison, therefore Sean is going to prison". It's very simple logic.
No need to explain the logic to me. The part I don't agree with is your assumption that he'll be convicted automatically.
 
Does this deal signal a high probability that STaylor may not play next year?  I am sure the WASH org is following the case closely.
Taylor = FSArchuleta = SS
They can each play both. My point was more of dollars spent. No need to spend huge cash on a SS when you have Taylor. But if he is gone...and link

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9304905

"He also provides insurance in case Sean Taylor misses playing time because of aggravated assault charges in Florida."
Believe me...Archuleta CANNOT play FS. No way...no how.
Yup, his cover skills are pretty weak. He's closer to a WLB than a FS.
 
I thought Sean Taylor is going to prison for a minimum of 5 years, it's a mandatory sentence in Florida when you pull out a gun, you go to prison and there was nothing written in the law that it doesn't apply to rich football players. Prepare for no Sean Taylor, Jeb Bush will make sure he serves his sentence.
Was he convicted?
Law: Pull a gun, go to prison, MANDATORYWas he convicted? No, not yet, but logic says "Taylor pulled a gun, Pulling a gun and you go to prison, therefore Sean is going to prison". It's very simple logic.
If it is that easy, then why don't they just circumvent the law system and throw him into jail that night? :rolleyes: Taylor won't spend a minute in jail...

 
Law: Pull a gun, go to prison, MANDATORY

Was he convicted? No, not yet, but logic says "Taylor pulled a gun, Pulling a gun and you go to prison, therefore Sean is going to prison". It's very simple logic.
No need to explain the logic to me. The part I don't agree with is your assumption that he'll be convicted automatically.
I'm with ya Tick

 
I thought Sean Taylor is going to prison for a minimum of 5 years, it's a mandatory sentence in Florida when you pull out a gun, you go to prison and there was nothing written in the law that it doesn't apply to rich football players. Prepare for no Sean Taylor, Jeb Bush will make sure he serves his sentence.
I think you forget, Jeb Bush is a fan of the U. :banned:
 
I thought Sean Taylor is going to prison for a minimum of 5 years, it's a mandatory sentence in Florida when you pull out a gun, you go to prison and there was nothing written in the law that it doesn't apply to rich football players. Prepare for no Sean Taylor, Jeb Bush will make sure he serves his sentence.
I think you forget, Jeb Bush is a fan of the U. :banned:
He also hopes to live in DC someday :P
 
I thought Sean Taylor is going to prison for a minimum of 5 years, it's a mandatory sentence in Florida when you pull out a gun, you go to prison and there was nothing written in the law that it doesn't apply to rich football players. Prepare for no Sean Taylor, Jeb Bush will make sure he serves his sentence.
I think you forget, Jeb Bush is a fan of the U. :banned:
He also hopes to live in DC someday :P
:gang1: :pokey:

 
I thought Sean Taylor is going to prison for a minimum of 5 years, it's a mandatory sentence in Florida when you pull out a gun, you go to prison and there was nothing written in the law that it doesn't apply to rich football players. Prepare for no Sean Taylor, Jeb Bush will make sure he serves his sentence.
I think you forget, Jeb Bush is a fan of the U. :banned:
He also hopes to live in DC someday :P
BTW, Sean Taylor's trial has been postponned until April 10th. He just retained two hot-shot criminal defense lawyers as his counsel. I don't know any of the evidence, but I doubt that anyone else posting here does either. BTW Noah, the presumption of innocence doesn't go away just because he's a "rich football" player, either.
 
I thought Sean Taylor is going to prison for a minimum of 5 years, it's a mandatory sentence in Florida when you pull out a gun, you go to prison and there was nothing written in the law that it doesn't apply to rich football players. Prepare for no Sean Taylor, Jeb Bush will make sure he serves his sentence.
I think you forget, Jeb Bush is a fan of the U. :banned:
He also hopes to live in DC someday :P
BTW, Sean Taylor's trial has been postponned until April 10th. He just retained two hot-shot criminal defense lawyers as his counsel. I don't know any of the evidence, but I doubt that anyone else posting here does either. BTW Noah, the presumption of innocence doesn't go away just because he's a "rich football" player, either.
It will be difficult to convict Taylor. My understanding is the accusers aren't what you would say crediable.
 
How are the skins signing all these players when they are so close to the CAP ??
Okay, here's a little Redskins Captology, and why they have the best front office in football (minus the talent evaluators):Yeah, those moves freed up about $20M.

Figure that they were even with the cap before the deadline. CBA is reached, so an extra $7M.

Combine that with the restructuring of these vets for about $10M more. Suddenly the Redskins have lots of room to work.

Also, notice one thing in all of these contracts: the difference between "guaranteed" money and "signing bonus". The Redskins give great deals to all of these players, but they are also great deals for the Redskins.

Consider this analogy: Me = Celebrity (Dan Snyder), You = Homeowner (Player)

Basically, I am looking at buying your house, and it was selling for $1,000,000, and I'm a celebrity and I want to use your house for the next few years because I'm shooting my movie "How to Buy A Super Bowl." I go, "I'll give you $500,000 in cash for the next two years to rent it, and I'll give you another $700,000 if I decide to keep it.

Obviously, this is a great deal for you, because not only are you getting $500,000 in cash, but you're essentially only renting out your house. And if I actually buy it, you get more than its worth.

But, this is also a great deal for me, because I don't have to pay you $1,000,000 for the house, and in a couple years I'm probably going to want to move on anyway.

So, what the Redskins do is say "we'll give you a lot more guaranteed money so we can backload the contract." The Player thinks this is great, since guaranteed money is the only, well, guaranteed money in NFL contracts. The Owner loves it because the deal is set up so he can cut the guy loose in three years when that base salary starts to inflate too much.

The only real drawback of this is when you get someone that instantly is a bad fit, and you have all of this guaranteed money in him, so you HAVE to keep him around for 2-3 years.

Hope this helps.

 
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How are the skins signing all these players when they are so close to the CAP ??
Okay, here's a little Redskins Captology, and why they have the best front office in football (minus the talent evaluators):Yeah, those moves freed up about $20M.

Figure that they were even with the cap before the deadline. CBA is reached, so an extra $7M.

Combine that with the restructuring of these vets for about $10M more. Suddenly the Redskins have lots of room to work.

Also, notice one thing in all of these contracts: the difference between "guaranteed" money and "signing bonus". The Redskins give great deals to all of these players, but they are also great deals for the Redskins.

Consider this analogy: Me = Celebrity (Dan Snyder), You = Homeowner (Player)

Basically, I am looking at buying your house, and it was selling for $1,000,000, and I'm a celebrity and I want to use your house for the next few years because I'm shooting my movie "How to Buy A Super Bowl." I go, "I'll give you $500,000 in cash for the next two years to rent it, and I'll give you another $700,000 if I decide to keep it.

Obviously, this is a great deal for you, because not only are you getting $500,000 in cash, but you're essentially only renting out your house. And if I actually buy it, you get more than its worth.

But, this is also a great deal for me, because I don't have to pay you $1,000,000 for the house, and in a couple years I'm probably going to want to move on anyway.

So, what the Redskins do is say "we'll give you a lot more guaranteed money so we can backload the contract." The Player thinks this is great, since guaranteed money is the only, well, guaranteed money in NFL contracts. The Owner loves it because the deal is set up so he can cut the guy loose in three years when that base salary starts to inflate too much.

The only real drawback of this is when you get someone that instantly is a bad fit, and you have all of this guaranteed money in him, so you HAVE to keep him around for 2-3 years.

Hope this helps.
How dare you speak the truth. Dan Snyder is an idiot who wants to buy a Super Bowl and has ruined the NFL and put the Redskins in PERPETUAL CAP HELL!!!!!!!! Every Shark knows that. It's an article of faith around here. Don't you know that? :P :P :P :sarcasm:

 
All bad signings so far ...imo.  THey are way over-paying for scrubs!!!! I do however like the Lloyd trade.

Stupid foreskins
You know, I am a Dallas fan and as soon as a poster calls the redskins "foreskins" I stop paying attention to themCome on, are we in the 4th grade? When someone calls dallas the "cowgirls" does it seem witty to you?

Seriously, anyone who keeps doing this needs to just lay off.
Lighten up Francis.....
 
The thing that amazes me in this thread is people characterizing Archuleta as a scrub. He's a very good in-the-box SS.
I know what you mean. When Randle El wasn't signed he was "the best WR available". Then the Skins signed him and he's "borderline #3 WR, not worth signing". A lot of it comes from people who resent the Redskins (which is fine) and transfer the resentment to the players they sign (which makes no sense in talking NFL or fantasy ability).
 
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FWIW, I like the Randle el signing. The $ spent is a different issue, but I'm glad for the 'Skin they got him. He immediately brings experience/stability for kick returns. I always thought the Steelers would exploit his 'versatility' more, but never saw that materialize.

Bottom line is he may just become their $5 million KR/PR, but I still believe he could do more than he's demonstrated so far...

 
Redskins | Contract update: A. Archuleta

Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:42:45 -0800

Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports Washington Redskins S Adam Archuleta signed a six-year contract that averages $5 million a season to join the Redskins. Archuleta's contract includes a sizeable $10 million signing bonus.

 
:eek:

Even with the big jump in the cap this year, that's a LOT of $$$ for any safety, much less one that's not among the league's best.

And HOW DO THE SKINS KEEP AFFORDING THESE GUYS!?!??

 
:eek:

And HOW DO THE SKINS KEEP AFFORDING THESE GUYS!?!??
Snyder is an idiot! He probably doesn't even look at the financials for average safeties in the league. He just thinks up some lofty number that will lure the guy and gives it to him. Pretty soon all the FA's are gonna only wanna play for the Redskins because they know they'll get a fat contract and not have to do anything else for the rest of their careers. I feel sorry for the fans that are gonna have to pay the price when he puts that team in salary cap hell. :confused: :loco:
 
:eek:

And HOW DO THE SKINS KEEP AFFORDING THESE GUYS!?!??
Snyder is an idiot! He probably doesn't even look at the financials for average safeties in the league. He just thinks up some lofty number that will lure the guy and gives it to him. Pretty soon all the FA's are gonna only wanna play for the Redskins because they know they'll get a fat contract and not have to do anything else for the rest of their careers. I feel sorry for the fans that are gonna have to pay the price when he puts that team in salary cap hell. :confused: :loco:
Cap Hell, that's been coming for 6 yrs now. So when is it supposed to happen?
 

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