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Art Shell Out In Oakland (1 Viewer)
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PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Weapon of Mass Instruction
Watch my feet!
diesel7982
Footballguy
Broken Clock, right Levin?
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Dare I say....upgrade LaMont Jordan?
zamboni
Footballguy
Depends on who the coach is.
coolnerd
Footballguy
\Cant's exactly not fire a guy to prove a rumor monger wrong. that would be too illogical even for Mr. JumpsuitThen again, it has not happened officailly yet.Maybe Al Davis could hire Nick Saban and they could just both lie about it.
diesel7982
Footballguy
We'll have to see if Jordan is even on the roster. He was mediocre in his first year, terrible this past year, and is due a sizeable bonus this offseason.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Which coaches do you think would be a downgrade from Art Shell?
zamboni
Footballguy
Probably very few, but the point is that a new coach may want his own guy. And as noted, Jordan isn't a lock to be on the team next year. After '05, Davis indicated he wasn't happy with Jordan's production, and assuredly can't be any happier after this year (even discounting the injury).Which coaches do you think would be a downgrade from Art Shell?
ATC1
Footballguy
Who would want to coach there?Which coaches do you think would be a downgrade from Art Shell?
joey
Footballguy
I guess our definitions of "mediocre" are very different.Lamont's stats for 2005 are:1025 rush yard 9 TDs563 rec yards (on 70 receptions) 2 TDs8th best RB according to FBG scoring.That's mediocre?
falconeyed
Footballguy
THANK GOD!
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Had he remained, it may have been like this.
zamboni
Footballguy
Great for fantasy purposes, but his YPC was well under 4, and he dropped a ton of passes. That's what coaches ultimately care about.
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tommyGunZ
Footballguy
fantasy <> real NFLAs someone who watched a lot of Raider football in '05, Jordan wasn't nearly the impact back that they were expecting, although he did pile up a ton of catches.
-jb-
Footballguy
i'm going with
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. Had he remained, it may have been like this. aDingoAteMyBaby
Footballguy
i'm going with
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
I'm guessing he was taking notes as well. I've never seen a coach actually writing so much during a game. At times Shell appeared to be attending a lecture, not coaching a football game.Why take notes during the game when you have the game on film?
diesel7982
Footballguy
Glad to see someone on thie board who realizes fantasy and real-life are two different things.
zamboni
Footballguy
Probably old-school ways, which showed immeasurably this year.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
I think Tom Flores is available....
Al ?
Al ?
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I think at Art's house, there's a file containing the notes for reading sometime down the road.First posession:"Note to self. Never take the Raiders job again."Second posession:"Note to self. Never take the Raiders job again."Third posession:"Note to self. Never take the Raiders job again."Multiply by number of posessions.I'm guessing he was taking notes as well. I've never seen a coach actually writing so much during a game. At times Shell appeared to be attending a lecture, not coaching a football game.Why take notes during the game when you have the game on film?
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Has he been running a bed-and-breakfast?
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Only if they hire Norv Turner away from San Fran to be the head coach. I think that Turner would rather be an assistant in San Fran than be the head coach across the bay.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
That is the most difficult question they need to answer.Is there a worse spot in the NFL to coach?
perry147
Footballguy
Al will offer the job to a young guy with no coaching experience for very very little money.These things come in cycles with Al.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
No kidding. This place is worse than Arizona and Atlanta. In Arizona, they can Green but retain his entire staff. So if a new coach comes in they will have to convince that tight wad Bidwell to fire them yet continue to pay them if the new coach wants to hire his new staff. Not going to happen. Particularly considering that despite the big money spent on Edge this offseason, the Cards were still $10 million under the cap. Couldn't that $$ be not one but two solid linemen to allow you to keep your QB upright and the RB to get out into space to make a play? In Atlanta Vick has the owner's ear more than the coach. Howard Balzer does a radio show in St. Louis every Wed morning and he reported yesterday that Mike Martz was approached to coach the Falcons. He said he would consider it if Vick was moved to RB and Schaub started at QB. They declined to interview Martz when he made that demand. But at least the team isn't owned by Al Davis.
Evilhomer3k
Footballguy
That's awesome. The most genius move Martz has made in a long time.
S.K.A.
Trout Bum
I don't think Al said he was not going to fire Art. I believe he said that Adam was not getting his information from a credible source. Not sure if that changes your scoreboard or not, but I hope Al wouldn't change his mind on way or the other over a seemingly meaningless (at least in Al's mind) reporter.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Rich Kotite.Which coaches do you think would be a downgrade from Art Shell?
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I think he was actually drawing quick sketches of the Raiderettes.I think at Art's house, there's a file containing the notes for reading sometime down the road.First posession:"Note to self. Never take the Raiders job again."Second posession:"Note to self. Never take the Raiders job again."Third posession:"Note to self. Never take the Raiders job again."Multiply by number of posessions.I'm guessing he was taking notes as well. I've never seen a coach actually writing so much during a game. At times Shell appeared to be attending a lecture, not coaching a football game.Why take notes during the game when you have the game on film?
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Had he remained, it may have been like this. 
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Not Allowed In Mexico
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
My favorite I came up with was...All work and no play makes Art a dull boy.LA REDRUM.All work and no play makes Art a dull boy.LA REDRUM.All work and no play makes Art a dull boy.LA REDRUM.All work and no play makes Art a dull boy.LA REDRUM.All work and no play makes Art a dull boy.LA REDRUM.I think he was actually drawing quick sketches of the Raiderettes.I think at Art's house, there's a file containing the notes for reading sometime down the road.First posession:"Note to self. Never take the Raiders job again."Second posession:"Note to self. Never take the Raiders job again."Third posession:"Note to self. Never take the Raiders job again."Multiply by number of posessions.I'm guessing he was taking notes as well. I've never seen a coach actually writing so much during a game. At times Shell appeared to be attending a lecture, not coaching a football game.Why take notes during the game when you have the game on film?
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Here's to a fine RAIDER, and a horrible second-time-around head coach.
Ryan should be the man, no question.
Then bring in a OC who has actually been in football in the last 10 years.
Ryan should be the man, no question.
Then bring in a OC who has actually been in football in the last 10 years.
Aaronstory
Footballguy
Obviously, John Madden will be the next coach of the Raiders.
toxicbees
Footballguy
I'd love for Ryan to take the head coaching job. He's a Raiders type of guy.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Coach "Deer in Headlights" got whacked eh?
It is now rumored that Al Davis not only whacked him today, he also strapped him across the roof of his car, drove him out to former O-Coordinator Tom Walsh's Bed and Breakfast, propped him up on the porch, slapped an Indian headdress on him, and then cackled aloud as he sashayed away in his white vinyl pants.
It is now rumored that Al Davis not only whacked him today, he also strapped him across the roof of his car, drove him out to former O-Coordinator Tom Walsh's Bed and Breakfast, propped him up on the porch, slapped an Indian headdress on him, and then cackled aloud as he sashayed away in his white vinyl pants.
zamboni
Footballguy
Great hair, too.
mozzy84
Footballguy
everyone said the same thing about new orleans last year, they seem to have found a decent coach.Who would want to coach there?Which coaches do you think would be a downgrade from Art Shell?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Keep laughing. At the end of this season, your last Super Bowl win will STILL be 21 years ag
nly we'll have a much better draft pick (and QB next year).... 
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Al Davis is much like the Bears....Neither hires a former NFL Head Coach. They always wanna hire on the cheap.He has a good eye for getting young coaching talent.Jon Gruden anyone?Ha, Al is going to hire another coach
Sean Payton was his No.1 choice for 2006
I'm sure there are plenty of other examples.
Shell in 2006 wasn't a great move
When the Bears tried to hire Dave McGinnis on the cheap (because he was 'friends with the McCaskey family) - he backed out, because he demanded $1Million a year. They ultimately hired **** Jauron and paid him $1Mil a year. I remember reading an article back then - and the lowest paid head coach was Jon Gruden at $600K a year.
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