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Ashley Judd vs. Mitch McConnell Kentucky senate 2014 (1 Viewer)

She is wildly popular in Kentucky. She no slouch academically either. Masters from Harvard. Mitch is on his way out. Call me crazy, but mark this thread.
I repeat, have you ever even heard this woman speak?
A speech? No. I'm sure she has given many though. She's active in many charities, and organizations. It's not like she's some unknown. Have you heard her speak? Where are you coming from?
Well, there you go. She's popular in Kentucky. Apparently she has given a speech or two. And?????? She is active in charities. Wow!!!!!!! Let's all vote for her. Clearly she's incredibly qualified.
Thanks for the incredible insight champ.
Oh, you're welcome. I mean, given that you're sure she has given many speeches that's good enough for me. What else matters???
You're so naive!
 
I wish she would run. My wife follows her on Twitter and she is an Obama worshipper. What platform will she run upon?

She is obviously too good to start at a smaller, local position.

This will not end well for her.

 
Mitch has the reputation as an obstructionist now that he's older. He's stale, and the Commonwealth is ripe for change. Judd 2014!
Mitch has the full weight and resources of the RNC behind him. Ashley has a small segment of the people who think people on TV are neat-o. I don't know exactly what she stands for but it's surely better than the Republican agenda, so I'd probably lean towards her. I just think there has to be somebody with a better chance of winning that the Democrats will line up across from a heavyweight like that. She should try the House. Or even better, run for mayor of someplace like Harlan.
 
I wish she would run. My wife follows her on Twitter and she is an Obama worshipper. What platform will she run upon?She is obviously too good to start at a smaller, local position. This will not end well for her.
You should start up the "Does anyone think Judd can win this thing?" thread.
 
McConnell has had several relatively close races in KY. He won in 2008 by about 6 points, which isn't a lot for a senior Republican in a solidly-Republican state. I can easily imagine him losing to a decent candidate (not sure if Ashley Judd qualifies or not).

 
She is wildly popular in Kentucky. She no slouch academically either. Masters from Harvard. Mitch is on his way out. Call me crazy, but mark this thread.
I repeat, have you ever even heard this woman speak?
Would much rather listen to her speak than old dickface.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqxq9NkCxEIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPTg0fA08F4
:goodposting: I wonder what the residency requirements are to run for Senate in KY. I'd be happy to rent her a room if she needs it.
 
I could see McConnell losing to Judd.

First, McConnell is just a hair above Ben Stein from Ferris Bueller's in the charisma department. More and more politics is about charisma, and Judd has it more than McConnell.

Second, being an actor doesn't mean that you're less likely to get elected because people question your credentials. Quite the opposite, it makes you more likely to get elected because people recognize your name. See Franken and Schwarzenegger. Judd's name recognition is huge in Kentucky.

Third, Democrats won the Presidency and the Senate battle, in large part, because of the female vote. Women disproportionately voted Democrat, and a voting for a younger woman like Judd could really invigorate women to come to the polls.

Four, Judd will likely dominate the youth vote not only because Democrats traditionally dominate the youth vote, but also because young people will think it's cool to vote for Judd over the stodgy, old white guy.

Five, McConnell's not that popular among Conservatives. Many Conservatives don't like McConnell and Boehner because they see the two as weak and more interested in promoting their own careers and the GOP than they are the country and Conservative principles. If the GOP sacrifices Conservative principles to try to redefine their party to stay politically relevant, that could alienate many Conservative voters who'll just stay home on election day.

Judd winning is plausible.

 
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Ashley Judd just has to yell go Cats at campaign events. Those Kentuckians are crazy about basketball, and would elect her. Plus Kentucky could say we have the prettiest Senator.

Kentucky elected Rand Paul

 
http://www.suntimes....-us-senate.html

I know she is avoiding the questions from the media, but am I alone in thinking that she could beat him. I can see her beating him easily.
Does she have any qualifications besides being a B-Movie actress? If not, then I think she's fooling herself.
Well, I don't think she's ever wrestled professionaly if that's what you are fishing for.
I'm not fishing for anything. I was asking a serious question.We always ##### about the morons in Congress, but aren't WE responsible for putting them there? Maybe if the people put a little more weight with someone's qualifications/experience/background/whatever then maybe we wouldn't be #####ing so much. Seems to me that "hey, she's a celebrity and she WAS hot 10 years ago" is something we should be skeptical of instead of being actually serious about it.

Now I know that everyone wants to get THEIR guy/gal in office but at what price? That we elect a fool into office to replace someone who may be an "old, white guy" but who actually has the experience and chops to do the job?

Sure, being hot helps but a) she is not hot now (10 years ago - yeah) and b) you're NEVER going to be able to shag it so you're wasting your time.

 
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Sure, being hot helps but a) she is not hot now (10 years ago - yeah)
Theory of Relativity. Judd is still hot relative to the average Kentucky woman, and she'ss still hot relative to most women her age. When you're in Kentucky or you're an old guy who's comparing Judd to the old ball-and-chain he's been stuck boinking for the past quarter century, then Judd is still hot.
 
Sure, being hot helps but a) she is not hot now (10 years ago - yeah)
Theory of Relativity. Judd is still hot relative to the average Kentucky woman, and she'ss still hot relative to most women her age. When you're in Kentucky or you're an old guy who's comparing Judd to the old ball-and-chain he's been stuck boinking for the past quarter century, then Judd is still hot.
Okay, you win. :lol:
 
http://www.suntimes....-us-senate.html

I know she is avoiding the questions from the media, but am I alone in thinking that she could beat him. I can see her beating him easily.
Does she have any qualifications besides being a B-Movie actress? If not, then I think she's fooling herself.
Well, I don't think she's ever wrestled professionaly if that's what you are fishing for.
I'm not fishing for anything. I was asking a serious question.
And I was giving a serious answer. Ventura won with wrestling experience, acting, and everything he learned from North Hennipin Community College. Do you think he was "fooling hiself" when he ran?BTW I don't think Ventura won because he's beautiful. Nor Franken. I don't really understand why you are beating that dead horse.

 
http://www.suntimes....-us-senate.html

I know she is avoiding the questions from the media, but am I alone in thinking that she could beat him. I can see her beating him easily.
Does she have any qualifications besides being a B-Movie actress? If not, then I think she's fooling herself.
Well, I don't think she's ever wrestled professionaly if that's what you are fishing for.
I'm not fishing for anything. I was asking a serious question.
And I was giving a serious answer. Ventura won with wrestling experience, acting, and everything he learned from North Hennipin Community College. Do you think he was "fooling hiself" when he ran?BTW I don't think Ventura won because he's beautiful. Nor Franken. I don't really understand why you are beating that dead horse.
Did you read the rest of my post? Then you will know why (and it's not a dead horse).
 
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We always ##### about the morons in Congress, but aren't WE responsible for putting them there? Maybe if the people put a little more weight with someone's qualifications/experience/background/whatever then maybe we wouldn't be #####ing so much. Seems to me that "hey, she's a celebrity and she WAS hot 10 years ago" is something we should be skeptical of instead of being actually serious about it.Now I know that everyone wants to get THEIR guy/gal in office but at what price? That we elect a fool into office to replace someone who may be an "old, white guy" but who actually has the experience and chops to do the job?
Max - I agree with a fair bit of what you're saying. It's comical that we have celebrities in office.....almost purely because they have name recognition.....That said, what type of "experience" do you think makes someone qualified to be a Senator? Or a Governor? I don't have an answer - just not something I typically think about - but am truly interested in your response.
 
http://www.suntimes....-us-senate.html

I know she is avoiding the questions from the media, but am I alone in thinking that she could beat him. I can see her beating him easily.
Does she have any qualifications besides being a B-Movie actress? If not, then I think she's fooling herself.
Well, I don't think she's ever wrestled professionaly if that's what you are fishing for.
I'm not fishing for anything. I was asking a serious question.
And I was giving a serious answer. Ventura won with wrestling experience, acting, and everything he learned from North Hennipin Community College. Do you think he was "fooling hiself" when he ran?BTW I don't think Ventura won because he's beautiful. Nor Franken. I don't really understand why you are beating that dead horse.
Did you read the rest of my post? Then you will know why (and it's not a dead horse).
Yes, you posted you "think she's fooling herself" if she thinks she can get elected. Then you went on a rant whether she SHOULD get elected which is an entirely different question. You can argue whether limes are better than lemons if you like, but that also has no bearing on whether Judd is fooling herself if she thinks she can get elected.

I'm pretty sure when Reagan ran for governor there were plenty of people that knew him as a co-star to a monkey, the guy that pointed fingers during the red scare in hollywood, and the guy that took the enlightened position that individuals should have the right to "discriminate against Negroes or others" when it came to housing. That's a pretty strong argument his leadership abilities would be questionable upon entering office. Still, he had a solid chance to be elected.

 
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Are people really saying that Ashley Judd isn't still very attractive? Crazy talk

To determine whether she had a chance you'd really have to drill down on the state demographics, especially in a mid term election

It seems possible, but still a bit unlikely IMO

 
http://www.suntimes....-us-senate.html

I know she is avoiding the questions from the media, but am I alone in thinking that she could beat him. I can see her beating him easily.
Does she have any qualifications besides being a B-Movie actress? If not, then I think she's fooling herself.
Well, I don't think she's ever wrestled professionaly if that's what you are fishing for.
I'm not fishing for anything. I was asking a serious question.
And I was giving a serious answer. Ventura won with wrestling experience, acting, and everything he learned from North Hennipin Community College. Do you think he was "fooling hiself" when he ran?BTW I don't think Ventura won because he's beautiful. Nor Franken. I don't really understand why you are beating that dead horse.
Did you read the rest of my post? Then you will know why (and it's not a dead horse).
Yes, you posted you "think she's fooling herself" if she thinks she can get elected. Then you went on a rant whether she SHOULD get elected which is an entirely different question. You can argue whether limes are better than lemons if you like, but that also has no bearing on whether Judd is fooling herself if she thinks she can get elected.

I'm pretty sure when Reagan ran for governor there were plenty of people that knew him as a co-star to a monkey, they guy that pointed fingers during the red scare in hollywood, and they guy that took the enlightened position that individuals should have the right to "discriminate against Negroes or others" when it came to housing. That's a pretty strong argument his leadership abilities would be questionable upon entering office. Still, he had a solid chance to be elected.
Sorry you're having such a hard time with this. If you're stuck on the "she's fooling herself", then let me change it to "it's highly unlikely" so we can put this to rest.My main point was SHOULD we be electing people to office indiscriminately.

 
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http://www.suntimes....-us-senate.html

I know she is avoiding the questions from the media, but am I alone in thinking that she could beat him. I can see her beating him easily.
Does she have any qualifications besides being a B-Movie actress? If not, then I think she's fooling herself.
Well, I don't think she's ever wrestled professionaly if that's what you are fishing for.
I'm not fishing for anything. I was asking a serious question.We always ##### about the morons in Congress, but aren't WE responsible for putting them there? Maybe if the people put a little more weight with someone's qualifications/experience/background/whatever then maybe we wouldn't be #####ing so much. Seems to me that "hey, she's a celebrity and she WAS hot 10 years ago" is something we should be skeptical of instead of being actually serious about it.

Now I know that everyone wants to get THEIR guy/gal in office but at what price? That we elect a fool into office to replace someone who may be an "old, white guy" but who actually has the experience and chops to do the job?

Sure, being hot helps but a) she is not hot now (10 years ago - yeah) and b) you're NEVER going to be able to shag it so you're wasting your time.
Problem is that type of qualifications that would make her a qualified candidate in modern times just produces the same hacks we have in office currently. Senate is filled with lawyers and supposed wonks, former Reps, etc. This isn't to say that we should be nominating witches, but really anyone that can discuss the issues intelligently, is a citizen, and is 35 is atleast as qualified as half the members of the current Senate.
 
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http://www.suntimes....-us-senate.html

I know she is avoiding the questions from the media, but am I alone in thinking that she could beat him. I can see her beating him easily.
Does she have any qualifications besides being a B-Movie actress? If not, then I think she's fooling herself.
Well, I don't think she's ever wrestled professionaly if that's what you are fishing for.
I'm not fishing for anything. I was asking a serious question.We always ##### about the morons in Congress, but aren't WE responsible for putting them there? Maybe if the people put a little more weight with someone's qualifications/experience/background/whatever then maybe we wouldn't be #####ing so much. Seems to me that "hey, she's a celebrity and she WAS hot 10 years ago" is something we should be skeptical of instead of being actually serious about it.

Now I know that everyone wants to get THEIR guy/gal in office but at what price? That we elect a fool into office to replace someone who may be an "old, white guy" but who actually has the experience and chops to do the job?

Sure, being hot helps but a) she is not hot now (10 years ago - yeah) and b) you're NEVER going to be able to shag it so you're wasting your time.
Problem is that type of qualifications that would make her a qualified candidate in modern times just produces the same hacks we have in office currently. Senate is filled with lawyers and supposed wonks, former Reps, etc. This isn't to say that we should be nominating witches, but really anyone that can discuss the issues intelligently, is a citizen, and is 35 is atleast as qualified as half the members of the current Senate.
I think you summed it up pretty well here.
 
really anyone that can discuss the issues intelligently, is a citizen, and is 35 is at least as qualified as half the members of the current Senate.
Joe Biden was 30 when he became a Senator, but at least he met one of your qualifications.
 
McConnell has had several relatively close races in KY. He won in 2008 by about 6 points, which isn't a lot for a senior Republican in a solidly-Republican state. I can easily imagine him losing to a decent candidate (not sure if Ashley Judd qualifies or not).
What makes you think she might be qualified?
 
'pizzatyme said:
McConnell has had several relatively close races in KY. He won in 2008 by about 6 points, which isn't a lot for a senior Republican in a solidly-Republican state. I can easily imagine him losing to a decent candidate (not sure if Ashley Judd qualifies or not).
What makes you think she might be qualified?
Because "qualified" is a subjective term here. The only qualifications you ACTUALLY need are age and being a US citizen. Some here are thinking "hotness" and being a celebrity are more than enough to make someone qualified. And in a sense, they are right since "qualified" is so subjective. In the end, I suppose, we all want "qualifications" for the opponent but when it comes to our guy/gal then "qualifications" don't really matter.
 
'pizzatyme said:
McConnell has had several relatively close races in KY. He won in 2008 by about 6 points, which isn't a lot for a senior Republican in a solidly-Republican state. I can easily imagine him losing to a decent candidate (not sure if Ashley Judd qualifies or not).
What makes you think she might be qualified?
Because "qualified" is a subjective term here. The only qualifications you ACTUALLY need are age and being a US citizen. Some here are thinking "hotness" and being a celebrity are more than enough to make someone qualified. And in a sense, they are right since "qualified" is so subjective. In the end, I suppose, we all want "qualifications" for the opponent but when it comes to our guy/gal then "qualifications" don't really matter.
Fair enough. I think this is a terribly slippery slope as I can imagine a congress full of actors, musicians, and sports stars. God help us all if/when that happens. With that said, it can't get much worse than many of what we have now.
 
I think this is a terribly slippery slope as I can imagine a congress full of actors, musicians, and sports stars. God help us all if/when that happens.
That scary thought probably has Jack Kemp, Bill Bradley, and Jim Bunning drinking heavily, and Sonny Bono is spinning in his grave.
 
'pizzatyme said:
McConnell has had several relatively close races in KY. He won in 2008 by about 6 points, which isn't a lot for a senior Republican in a solidly-Republican state. I can easily imagine him losing to a decent candidate (not sure if Ashley Judd qualifies or not).
What makes you think she might be qualified?
I know absolutely nothing about Ashley Judd besides that she's apparently an actress and from Kentucky.
 
I think this is a terribly slippery slope as I can imagine a congress full of actors, musicians, and sports stars. God help us all if/when that happens.
That scary thought probably has Jack Kemp, Bill Bradley, and Jim Bunning drinking heavily, and Sonny Bono is spinning in his grave.
Yes, because the political climate in America today is exactly like it was 20 years ago!
 
Senators Damon, Clooney, and Jay Z have the floor.
Just because somebody was in the entertainment industry doesn't automatically mean that they're unqualified to serve in Congress. George Clooney is unqualified because as far as I can tell he's not that bright. The other two I don't know much about. Reagan was an actor and he worked out pretty well.
 
Senators Damon, Clooney, and Jay Z have the floor.
Just because somebody was in the entertainment industry doesn't automatically mean that they're unqualified to serve in Congress. George Clooney is unqualified because as far as I can tell he's not that bright. The other two I don't know much about. Reagan was an actor and he worked out pretty well.
No idea how intelligent Clooney is or isn't but he lives the life we all should live.
 
Senators Damon, Clooney, and Jay Z have the floor.
Just because somebody was in the entertainment industry doesn't automatically mean that they're unqualified to serve in Congress. George Clooney is unqualified because as far as I can tell he's not that bright. The other two I don't know much about. Reagan was an actor and he worked out pretty well.
I just read her that the only qualifications include age and being an American citizen. That's what qualifies Ashley Judd to run!
 

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