Ashley Lelie signs with 49ers (1 Viewer)

[billymays]

Free-agent wide receiver Ashley Lelie signed a two-year deal with the 49ers for $4.3 million, including a $2 million signing bonus.

they still need more

 

[JohnnyU]

He's not worth 2 million pesos, let alone 2 million bucks.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I would assume this means Stallworth may not be on the radar.

GL w/ Lelie. Nothing like seeing a guy 10 yards past the safety drop the ball.

 

[cstu]

Replacing Bryant with Lelie doesn't make a lot of sense. They must plan to sign/draft someone.

 

[LHUCKS]

Great place for Lelie to sign...should be the #1 headed into camp.

 

[msommer]

Replacing Bryant with Lelie doesn't make a lot of sense. They must plan to sign/draft someone.

which means LHUCKS and I do not agree either...

 

[Colin Dowling]

Great place for Lelie to sign...should be the #1 headed into camp.

Agreed, which doesn't bode well for their passing game.

 

[mcd]

He's not worth 2 million pesos, let alone 2 million bucks.

Considering Northcutt just signed for 3.4 mil a year & Bennett at 4.5 mil, I don't have a problem with this signing at all. Lelie is somewhat one dimensional, but he has the ability to stretch the field. This probably opens it up for the 49ers to go after a DL in round 1, grabbing a WR later in day 1 with their multiple picks. Hopefully Branch will drop to the 8th pick & the 49ers could package a pick to move up.

 

[LHUCKS]

which means LHUCKS and I do not agree either...

So they are going to bring in another vet, or are you saying a rookie will be ahead of Lelie on the depth chart?

 

[LHUCKS]

Great place for Lelie to sign...should be the #1 headed into camp.

Agreed, which doesn't bode well for their passing game.

If he returns to his league leading YPC, it could be decent.

 

[rascal]

The Texans have agreed to a deal with free agent wideout Ashley Lelie, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

Lelie would been a nice complement to newly-locked up Andre Johnson as a deep threat, second receiver. He knows Gary Kubiak from their Denver days, so Lelie should be utilized better than he was in Atlanta last year.

So who is wrong?

 

[JohnnyU]

Great place for Lelie to sign...should be the #1 headed into camp.

Lelie at #1 is like Anna Nicole Smith being labled a star. Both are ridiculous, and both have always received more attention than they deserve.

 

[LHUCKS]

I guess we don't have a link yet, do we?

Has this been confirmed?

 

[msommer]

which means LHUCKS and I do not agree either...

So they are going to bring in another vet, or are you saying a rookie will be ahead of Lelie on the depth chart?

I think they will bring in another vet. As to who - I doubt it will be Stallworth although it might be intriguing to have both these guys streaking down the field at the same time...Who else is available - Moulds won't cut it, they won't be able to trade for Darrell Jackson. It would have to be someone with very good hands that is able to go across the middle and can get some penetration.

 

[rascal]

Nevermind my source just corrected the statement I posted. They say 49'ers as well.

 

[billymays]

adam schefter

http://nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10033511

oops on the link

 

[LHUCKS]

which means LHUCKS and I do not agree either...

So they are going to bring in another vet, or are you saying a rookie will be ahead of Lelie on the depth chart?

I think they will bring in another vet. As to who - I doubt it will be Stallworth although it might be intriguing to have both these guys streaking down the field at the same time...Who else is available - Moulds won't cut it, they won't be able to trade for Darrell Jackson. It would have to be someone with very good hands that is able to go across the middle and can get some penetration.

Right, I don't see any other vets out there that would be a clear #1 over Lelie.I'm not saying it wont happen, but rarely do you see a team bring in not one, but two big name FA WRs...just doesn't happen very often.

 

[Couch Potato]

Great place for Lelie to sign...should be the #1 headed into camp.

Agreed, which doesn't bode well for their passing game.

I disagree with you both. It wasn't #1 money, and it won't be a #1 role. I know LHUCKS wants to be right, but Lelie is just going to be what he's always been, a field stretching WR who doesn't catch nearly as many of the deep balls as he should and who isn't good for much else.

 

[JohnnyU]

which means LHUCKS and I do not agree either...

So they are going to bring in another vet, or are you saying a rookie will be ahead of Lelie on the depth chart?

I think they will bring in another vet. As to who - I doubt it will be Stallworth although it might be intriguing to have both these guys streaking down the field at the same time...Who else is available - Moulds won't cut it, they won't be able to trade for Darrell Jackson. It would have to be someone with very good hands that is able to go across the middle and can get some penetration.

Right, I don't see any other vets out there that would be a clear #1 over Lelie.I'm not saying it wont happen, but rarely do you see a team bring in not one, but two big name FA WRs...just doesn't happen very often.

Even if he is a #1, that's all Lelie needs is to face #1 DBs each week instead of DB 3. As if he wasn't bad enough as it is.

 

[LHUCKS]

I disagree with you both. It wasn't #1 money, and it won't be a #1 role. I know LHUCKS wants desperately to prove to the world that he's some sort of genius, but Lelie is just going to be what he's always been, a field stretching WR who doesn't catch nearly as many of the deep balls as he should and who isn't good for much else.

Okay Einstein, who's the big free agent that SF plans to bring in?

 

[Tag]

Great place for Lelie to sign...should be the #1 headed into camp.

Thats sad I still put him under Arnaz Battle

 

[LHUCKS]

which means LHUCKS and I do not agree either...

So they are going to bring in another vet, or are you saying a rookie will be ahead of Lelie on the depth chart?

I think they will bring in another vet. As to who - I doubt it will be Stallworth although it might be intriguing to have both these guys streaking down the field at the same time...Who else is available - Moulds won't cut it, they won't be able to trade for Darrell Jackson. It would have to be someone with very good hands that is able to go across the middle and can get some penetration.

Right, I don't see any other vets out there that would be a clear #1 over Lelie.I'm not saying it wont happen, but rarely do you see a team bring in not one, but two big name FA WRs...just doesn't happen very often.

Even if he is a #1, that's all Lelie needs is to face #1 DBs each week instead of DB 3. As if he wasn't bad enough as it is.

Lelie has no problem against #1 DBs...his problem lies in consistently catching the ball and not being a ##### when he goes over the middle.

 

[msommer]

I disagree with you both. It wasn't #1 money, and it won't be a #1 role. I know LHUCKS wants desperately to prove to the world that he's some sort of genius, but Lelie is just going to be what he's always been, a field stretching WR who doesn't catch nearly as many of the deep balls as he should and who isn't good for much else.

Okay Einstein, who's the big free agent that SF plans to bring in?

Could it be Joe Horn? If so I'd definitely expect them to draft someone in the early rounds

 

[Couch Potato]

I disagree with you both. It wasn't #1 money, and it won't be a #1 role. I know LHUCKS wants desperately to prove to the world that he's some sort of genius, but Lelie is just going to be what he's always been, a field stretching WR who doesn't catch nearly as many of the deep balls as he should and who isn't good for much else.

Okay Einstein, who's the big free agent that SF plans to bring in?

I edited my post.. wasn't very nice.. but as to who they'll add, I dunno. But I don't have to know who that will be, to know it won't be Lelie.

 

[JohnnyU]

which means LHUCKS and I do not agree either...

So they are going to bring in another vet, or are you saying a rookie will be ahead of Lelie on the depth chart?

I think they will bring in another vet. As to who - I doubt it will be Stallworth although it might be intriguing to have both these guys streaking down the field at the same time...Who else is available - Moulds won't cut it, they won't be able to trade for Darrell Jackson. It would have to be someone with very good hands that is able to go across the middle and can get some penetration.

Right, I don't see any other vets out there that would be a clear #1 over Lelie.I'm not saying it wont happen, but rarely do you see a team bring in not one, but two big name FA WRs...just doesn't happen very often.

Even if he is a #1, that's all Lelie needs is to face #1 DBs each week instead of DB 3. As if he wasn't bad enough as it is.

Lelie has no problem against #1 DBs...his problem lies in consistently catching the ball and not being a ##### when he goes over the middle.

Ok, so you admit he sucks?

 

[LHUCKS]

I disagree with you both. It wasn't #1 money, and it won't be a #1 role. I know LHUCKS wants desperately to prove to the world that he's some sort of genius, but Lelie is just going to be what he's always been, a field stretching WR who doesn't catch nearly as many of the deep balls as he should and who isn't good for much else.

Okay Einstein, who's the big free agent that SF plans to bring in?

Could it be Joe Horn? If so I'd definitely expect them to draft someone in the early rounds

If I were the 49ers I would look for a younger WR that would fit in with my young offense...I don't see Horn in the mix but I've been wrong before.

 

[billymays]

I disagree with you both. It wasn't #1 money, and it won't be a #1 role. I know LHUCKS wants desperately to prove to the world that he's some sort of genius, but Lelie is just going to be what he's always been, a field stretching WR who doesn't catch nearly as many of the deep balls as he should and who isn't good for much else.

Okay Einstein, who's the big free agent that SF plans to bring in?

Could it be Joe Horn? If so I'd definitely expect them to draft someone in the early rounds

I thought they were gonna look at Stallworth?

 

[LHUCKS]

which means LHUCKS and I do not agree either...

So they are going to bring in another vet, or are you saying a rookie will be ahead of Lelie on the depth chart?

I think they will bring in another vet. As to who - I doubt it will be Stallworth although it might be intriguing to have both these guys streaking down the field at the same time...Who else is available - Moulds won't cut it, they won't be able to trade for Darrell Jackson. It would have to be someone with very good hands that is able to go across the middle and can get some penetration.

Right, I don't see any other vets out there that would be a clear #1 over Lelie.I'm not saying it wont happen, but rarely do you see a team bring in not one, but two big name FA WRs...just doesn't happen very often.

Even if he is a #1, that's all Lelie needs is to face #1 DBs each week instead of DB 3. As if he wasn't bad enough as it is.

Lelie has no problem against #1 DBs...his problem lies in consistently catching the ball and not being a ##### when he goes over the middle.

Ok, so you admit he sucks?

I don't think he sucks, I just don't think he has reached his potential. Anyone who leads the NFL in YPC has got potential.

 

[LHUCKS]

I disagree with you both. It wasn't #1 money, and it won't be a #1 role. I know LHUCKS wants desperately to prove to the world that he's some sort of genius, but Lelie is just going to be what he's always been, a field stretching WR who doesn't catch nearly as many of the deep balls as he should and who isn't good for much else.

Okay Einstein, who's the big free agent that SF plans to bring in?

Could it be Joe Horn? If so I'd definitely expect them to draft someone in the early rounds

I thought they were gonna look at Stallworth?

Stallworth would definitely get more balls than Lelie if he coudl stay healthy...he seems like a good fit for the USC offense as well. Will be interesting to see if the Niners pony up for two WRs...I doubt it.

 

[JohnnyU]

which means LHUCKS and I do not agree either...

So they are going to bring in another vet, or are you saying a rookie will be ahead of Lelie on the depth chart?

I think they will bring in another vet. As to who - I doubt it will be Stallworth although it might be intriguing to have both these guys streaking down the field at the same time...Who else is available - Moulds won't cut it, they won't be able to trade for Darrell Jackson. It would have to be someone with very good hands that is able to go across the middle and can get some penetration.

Right, I don't see any other vets out there that would be a clear #1 over Lelie.I'm not saying it wont happen, but rarely do you see a team bring in not one, but two big name FA WRs...just doesn't happen very often.

Even if he is a #1, that's all Lelie needs is to face #1 DBs each week instead of DB 3. As if he wasn't bad enough as it is.

Lelie has no problem against #1 DBs...his problem lies in consistently catching the ball and not being a ##### when he goes over the middle.

Ok, so you admit he sucks?

I don't think he sucks, I just don't think he has reached his potential. Anyone who leads the NFL in YPC has got potential.

How many years does a guy get to be labled as having "Potential"? You would think he's way past the point of "Potential".

 

[prymetyme25]

which means LHUCKS and I do not agree either...

So they are going to bring in another vet, or are you saying a rookie will be ahead of Lelie on the depth chart?

I think they will bring in another vet. As to who - I doubt it will be Stallworth although it might be intriguing to have both these guys streaking down the field at the same time...Who else is available - Moulds won't cut it, they won't be able to trade for Darrell Jackson. It would have to be someone with very good hands that is able to go across the middle and can get some penetration.

Right, I don't see any other vets out there that would be a clear #1 over Lelie.I'm not saying it wont happen, but rarely do you see a team bring in not one, but two big name FA WRs...just doesn't happen very often.

Even if he is a #1, that's all Lelie needs is to face #1 DBs each week instead of DB 3. As if he wasn't bad enough as it is.

Lelie has no problem against #1 DBs...his problem lies in consistently catching the ball and not being a ##### when he goes over the middle.

Ok, so you admit he sucks?

I don't think he sucks, I just don't think he has reached his potential. Anyone who leads the NFL in YPC has got potential.

say what you wanna say about lelie but he's alot better than what we have in houston at #2. and I would have been happy with what he signed for. I'll take his 3 catches and 2 drop at 19 yards a clip.

 

[Couch Potato]

I disagree with you both. It wasn't #1 money, and it won't be a #1 role. I know LHUCKS wants desperately to prove to the world that he's some sort of genius, but Lelie is just going to be what he's always been, a field stretching WR who doesn't catch nearly as many of the deep balls as he should and who isn't good for much else.

Okay Einstein, who's the big free agent that SF plans to bring in?

Could it be Joe Horn? If so I'd definitely expect them to draft someone in the early rounds

I thought they were gonna look at Stallworth?

Stallworth would definitely get more balls than Lelie if he coudl stay healthy...he seems like a good fit for the USC offense as well. Will be interesting to see if the Niners pony up for two WRs...I doubt it.

Stallworth's still a possibility. SF had lots of dollars to burn when FA began, among the most cap room in the league. I know they have already spent a ton on defense and I don't have a feel right now for whether they can now afford Stallworth or not. He'd certainly be their #1 if they do get him.

 

[msommer]

I disagree with you both. It wasn't #1 money, and it won't be a #1 role. I know LHUCKS wants desperately to prove to the world that he's some sort of genius, but Lelie is just going to be what he's always been, a field stretching WR who doesn't catch nearly as many of the deep balls as he should and who isn't good for much else.

Okay Einstein, who's the big free agent that SF plans to bring in?

Could it be Joe Horn? If so I'd definitely expect them to draft someone in the early rounds

I thought they were gonna look at Stallworth?

Stallworth would definitely get more balls than Lelie if he coudl stay healthy...he seems like a good fit for the USC offense as well. Will be interesting to see if the Niners pony up for two WRs...I doubt it.

Stallworth's still a possibility. SF had lots of dollars to burn when FA began, among the most cap room in the league. I know they have already spent a ton on defense and I don't have a feel right now for whether they can now afford Stallworth or not. He'd certainly be their #1 if they do get him.

They were also rumoured to be hot for Adalius Thomas - and he went elsewhere so they should have money to burn...

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

which means LHUCKS and I do not agree either...

So they are going to bring in another vet, or are you saying a rookie will be ahead of Lelie on the depth chart?

I think they will bring in another vet. As to who - I doubt it will be Stallworth although it might be intriguing to have both these guys streaking down the field at the same time...Who else is available - Moulds won't cut it, they won't be able to trade for Darrell Jackson. It would have to be someone with very good hands that is able to go across the middle and can get some penetration.

Right, I don't see any other vets out there that would be a clear #1 over Lelie.I'm not saying it wont happen, but rarely do you see a team bring in not one, but two big name FA WRs...just doesn't happen very often.

Even if he is a #1, that's all Lelie needs is to face #1 DBs each week instead of DB 3. As if he wasn't bad enough as it is.

Lelie has no problem against #1 DBs...his problem lies in consistently catching the ball and not being a ##### when he goes over the middle.

Ok, so you admit he sucks?

I don't think he sucks, I just don't think he has reached his potential. Anyone who leads the NFL in YPC has got potential.

He didn't lead the league in YPC last year. Which year are you talking about?His hands are horrible and so is his routing running. He's got speed, that about it. I think Battle & VDavis and F.Gore will have more catches and Battle & V.davis are likely to both have more yards. You can have your YPC

 

[Bri]

Free-agent wide receiver Ashley Lelie signed a two-year deal with the 49ers for $4.3 million, including a $2 million signing bonus.they still need more

including a 2 mil bonus?so what's that 1.15 per year?This doesn't do a darn thing to their plans for other WRs then.

 

[LHUCKS]

How many years does a guy get to be labled as having "Potential"? You would think he's way past the point of "Potential".

Well, his last full year with a QB not named Vick he led the league in YPC so one can argue he's entering his prime. This is only year six of his career.

 

[LHUCKS]

He didn't lead the league in YPC last year. Which year are you talking about?

I didn't say that he did...he lead the leauge in '05.

 

[JohnnyU]

How many years does a guy get to be labled as having "Potential"? You would think he's way past the point of "Potential".

Well, his last full year with a QB not named Vick he led the league in YPC so one can argue he's entering his prime. This is only year six of his career.

Year six, ok, year six, lol. Nothing more needs to be said.

 

[Bri]

How many years does a guy get to be labled as having "Potential"? You would think he's way past the point of "Potential".

Well, his last full year with a QB not named Vick he led the league in YPC so one can argue he's entering his prime. This is only year six of his career.

How many red zone catches? how about for his career? How do you explain that?

 

[gheemony]

This is great news. Good chance one of my opponents will waste a pick on Lelie because he is the #1 WR on a team.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

How many years does a guy get to be labled as having "Potential"? You would think he's way past the point of "Potential".

Well, his last full year with a QB not named Vick he led the league in YPC so one can argue he's entering his prime. This is only year six of his career.

are you saying that A.Smith> Vick

 

[LHUCKS]

How many years does a guy get to be labled as having "Potential"? You would think he's way past the point of "Potential".

Well, his last full year with a QB not named Vick he led the league in YPC so one can argue he's entering his prime. This is only year six of his career.

Year six, ok, year six, lol. Nothing more needs to be said.

A) He came into the league as a projectB) Year 4 was a pretty good year and then year 5 he was Vicktimized.Good value play by the Niners, a place where the system seems to fit Lelie's strengths.

 

[LHUCKS]

How many years does a guy get to be labled as having "Potential"? You would think he's way past the point of "Potential".

Well, his last full year with a QB not named Vick he led the league in YPC so one can argue he's entering his prime. This is only year six of his career.

are you saying that A.Smith> Vick

I'm saying '07 49er passing offense >> 06 ATL passing offense

 

[jdoggydogg]

So let me get this right: the 49ers dumped a head case WR (Antonio Bryant) and signed another head case in Ashlie Lelie? Weak.

 

[Trap Play]

 

[LHUCKS]

How many years does a guy get to be labled as having "Potential"? You would think he's way past the point of "Potential".

Well, his last full year with a QB not named Vick he led the league in YPC so one can argue he's entering his prime. This is only year six of his career.

How many red zone catches? how about for his career? How do you explain that?

He's not a physical WR...so what? I'm not saying he's a stud.

 

[billymays]

So let me get this right: the 49ers dumped a head case WR (Antonio Bryant) and signed another head case in Ashlie Lelie? Weak.

bryant is on whole nother level.....almost pacman level

 

[JohnnyU]

How many years does a guy get to be labled as having "Potential"? You would think he's way past the point of "Potential".

Well, his last full year with a QB not named Vick he led the league in YPC so one can argue he's entering his prime. This is only year six of his career.

How many red zone catches? how about for his career? How do you explain that?

He's not a physical WR...so what? I'm not saying he's a stud.

...but you admit he sucks, right? Question for you. How many players on a roster would there have to be for you to have Lelie on your team in a dynasty league? I can see maybe 24. Definitely not on a 20 man roster if you start qb, 2rb, 2wr, te, 1flex, k, def.

 

[LHUCKS]

How many years does a guy get to be labled as having "Potential"? You would think he's way past the point of "Potential".

Well, his last full year with a QB not named Vick he led the league in YPC so one can argue he's entering his prime. This is only year six of his career.

How many red zone catches? how about for his career? How do you explain that?

He's not a physical WR...so what? I'm not saying he's a stud.

...but you admit he sucks, right?

No.

 

[msommer]

...but you admit he sucks, right?

In all fairness he did admit Lelie is a wimp