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JoeSteeler
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NinerDownUnder
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Hey folks.
After 5 years in the fantasy football wilderness, I've been asked just today to take over a keeper/dynasty team with IDP. Draft is tomorrow so I need to study fast !!!!!!!!
I haven't played IDP in centuries, and need to keep 4 of the following players.
Starting requirements: 4 DL, 3 LB, 4DB. Scoring: 1pt per tackle, 0.5 per assist. 2pt per sack,forced fumble, fumble recovery, interception. 0.5pts for pass defensed
My defensive players:
DL - Mario Williams, Justin Tuck, Robert Quinn, Dontari Poe
LB - DeAndre Levy, Lavonte David, Bobby Wagner, Curtis Lofton, James Laurinatis, K.J Wright
DB - Morgan Burnett, Antoine Bethea, Antrell Rolle, Dawan Landry, Micah Hyde, T.J McDonald
I have pretty much decided to keep Levy, David and Wagner but am having trouble deciding the 4th. I have it narrowed down to Quinn or Burnett.
My way of thinking is that the dropoff from Quinn to any other DL is quite significant but that's not quite the case with Burnett. On the flipside, Burnett will probably net me more points over the season under this scoring scheme. I have had a look at a few projections and mocks and most have Quinn higher than Burnett.
Which way do you think I should go ? Alternatively, feel free to offer your opinions as to which 4 you would keep
After 5 years in the fantasy football wilderness, I've been asked just today to take over a keeper/dynasty team with IDP. Draft is tomorrow so I need to study fast !!!!!!!!
I haven't played IDP in centuries, and need to keep 4 of the following players.
Starting requirements: 4 DL, 3 LB, 4DB. Scoring: 1pt per tackle, 0.5 per assist. 2pt per sack,forced fumble, fumble recovery, interception. 0.5pts for pass defensed
My defensive players:
DL - Mario Williams, Justin Tuck, Robert Quinn, Dontari Poe
LB - DeAndre Levy, Lavonte David, Bobby Wagner, Curtis Lofton, James Laurinatis, K.J Wright
DB - Morgan Burnett, Antoine Bethea, Antrell Rolle, Dawan Landry, Micah Hyde, T.J McDonald
I have pretty much decided to keep Levy, David and Wagner but am having trouble deciding the 4th. I have it narrowed down to Quinn or Burnett.
My way of thinking is that the dropoff from Quinn to any other DL is quite significant but that's not quite the case with Burnett. On the flipside, Burnett will probably net me more points over the season under this scoring scheme. I have had a look at a few projections and mocks and most have Quinn higher than Burnett.
Which way do you think I should go ? Alternatively, feel free to offer your opinions as to which 4 you would keep
Do not freeze a DB. You can always find serviceable DB's on the waiver wire. The easy choice is Robert Quinn. He is a difference maker at DL and can't be found on the waiver wire.NinerDownUnder said:
I might also be tempted to keep Mario Williams over Wagner since you have to start 4 DL and only 3 LB's. LB is quite deep and DL is not.
Tick
Footballguy
I agree. It's David, Levy, Quinn, and either Williams or Wagner.
Reasons for Wagner: I've been burned enough by tweener DE/OLBs (including dropping both Buffalo guys this offseason) Wagner just has more secure long-term value. Also, this is a tackle-heavy scoring system that favors LBs over DEs.
Reasons for Williams: 4 DLs. Also, tackle-heavy means if you can sneak a tweener in there who's playing OLB on lots of snaps, you're getting extra value from the increased tackles.
I think I'd go with Williams in the end.
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NinerDownUnder
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Thanks Gally & Tick,
You both made excellent points in regards to DB depth as opposed to DL.
Decided to take your advice and keep Williams over Wagner. Hopefully I can pick up some decent DB's in the draft.
Cheers guys.
You both made excellent points in regards to DB depth as opposed to DL.
Decided to take your advice and keep Williams over Wagner. Hopefully I can pick up some decent DB's in the draft.
Cheers guys.
I need to drop a LB for upcoming cuts, and I'm not positive as to my pick.
It boils down to Vincent Rey, Christian Jones, Paul Dawson, and Preston Brown.
It's dynasty, and I've got Posluszny, Keenan Robinson, Shazier, Von Miller, Stephone Anthony. Of the 4, I suppose the one with the least long term value is my choice, but I'm not sure which trigger to pull.
It boils down to Vincent Rey, Christian Jones, Paul Dawson, and Preston Brown.
It's dynasty, and I've got Posluszny, Keenan Robinson, Shazier, Von Miller, Stephone Anthony. Of the 4, I suppose the one with the least long term value is my choice, but I'm not sure which trigger to pull.
Tick
Footballguy
If it's not too late, try to trade Wagner. He's worth keeping for some team in your league... see if you can get a last-round pick for him or something.
Tick
Footballguy
I'd dump Rey. He just has been seen enough to know he's not special. The other guys should all have opportunities at some point and haven't shown us they're not great (yet).
I'm going to do my damnedest to trade him, but everyone's scrounging to get down to 40 players. It kills me though, I've stashed Rey since the end of 2013. In our format, he finished as the LB28 as a back up with 12th most combined tackles (61 solo/61 assists.) I'm torn. I don't disagree with your logic, but I do recognize my problem of having too many high upside LBs is a great problem to have.
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What's the consensus on trading defensive players for offensive ones?
I've been offered Tyler Eifert for Christian Jones in one of my leagues. Eifert is a $23/3yr player, while Jones is a $6/5yr player, so he's on a very cheap contract for long term. Do people think his upside is high enough justifying keeping him over Eifert? Am I crazy thinking he could be a top 10LBer in that system, or should I take the more valuable position player and run?
I own Julius & Ladarius at TE (and am spot starting Marcedes Lewis currently!)
I've been offered Tyler Eifert for Christian Jones in one of my leagues. Eifert is a $23/3yr player, while Jones is a $6/5yr player, so he's on a very cheap contract for long term. Do people think his upside is high enough justifying keeping him over Eifert? Am I crazy thinking he could be a top 10LBer in that system, or should I take the more valuable position player and run?
I own Julius & Ladarius at TE (and am spot starting Marcedes Lewis currently!)
For trade evaluation I don't really differentiate between offensive and defensive players. I evaluate my team with strength's and weaknesses and try and bolster accordingly.
So in general if you can be helped in the trade then it makes sense to pull the trigger on the deal. If it doesn't help you as far as your roster goes then don't pull the trigger. I know this seems simplistic but I am trying to stress that you shouldn't get caught up in the offensive vs defensive player argument. Players are players and they help equally (unless there is just a severly skewed scoring system that renders certain positions useless). So evaluate the trade on how it helps your team win week to week and go from there.
In my IDP leagues I have found that everyone has an easier time evaluting and finding information on offensive players so each team is fairly even in offensive points from week to week. The difference is being able to identify and capitalize on the defesive side of the ball. This is where championships have been won in my IDP leagues.
So in general if you can be helped in the trade then it makes sense to pull the trigger on the deal. If it doesn't help you as far as your roster goes then don't pull the trigger. I know this seems simplistic but I am trying to stress that you shouldn't get caught up in the offensive vs defensive player argument. Players are players and they help equally (unless there is just a severly skewed scoring system that renders certain positions useless). So evaluate the trade on how it helps your team win week to week and go from there.
In my IDP leagues I have found that everyone has an easier time evaluting and finding information on offensive players so each team is fairly even in offensive points from week to week. The difference is being able to identify and capitalize on the defesive side of the ball. This is where championships have been won in my IDP leagues.
Tick
Footballguy
Make that trade instantly! Jones is a shot in the dark, cash that in immediately for a player like Eifert. You can find another Jones easily - McClellin, Kennard, AWilliamson might be on your waiver wire and have similar outlooks - guys in a probable 3-down situation who might be something. Yes, he could be a top 10 LB, but Eifert is worth a ton more than Jones.
ETA: I have Eifert in one league and Jones in 2 leagues. Take a top-12 TE over a 50th-ranked LB!
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JoeSteeler
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Yep no. Brainier on that offer
