Asomugha contract voided, now a free agent (1 Viewer)

[massraider]

Why would you let the best corner in the NFL go? Very very dumb. With that being said OMG I HOPE HE COMES TO THE EAGLES!!11!!

Just so I am clear, what should the Raiders have done? Besides "not let him go "?

I think the poster was suggesting that the Raiders not let him go. Clearly, nothing today or yesterday or last month would have prevented this. But, perhaps, during his last contract negotiations, he should have been signed for longer term.

Yeah, I am pretty sure I got that the poster was suggesting the Raiders not let him go. And I was wondering how the Raiders were to prevent him from entering free agency? Signed for longer term during last negotiations? I love that idea! I sure wish that had occurred to Al Davis during those negotiations!!! Hey, wait!! 'Perhaps' it did! Nah............Maybe next time the old curmudgeon comes out of his frozen coffin, he'll consult some message board oracles, fire up the Madden 04, and sign him to a 7-year deal. I am sure that is exactly what Nnamdi wanted to do as he entered his contract year. Does anyone not remember this deal? Nnamdi hasn't been a free agent since joining the league, it was going to happen sooner or later. Actually, it was going to happen sooner. Make the argument that the Raiders need to be a better team to keep marquee free agents, I am with you. Don't tell me they 'let him go'. That's a child's argument.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Read the Details

I encourage you to read the details of the contract before jumping on the Raiders. The contract was going to be voided this year when he didn't break his 2009 numbers. It was a previously agreed to stipulation in the contract.

The Cable talk in this thread is silly. Cable seems to be getting the credit for what Hue Jackson accomplished with his offence this year. Like massraider pointed it already, it would have been great to keep Cable for some consistency. But at $2.5 mill/year I'm not sure he is worth it. The Raiders aren't the 49ers or the Dolphins and be throwing money around at HC's anytime soon.

Sure, Cable went 6-0 in the division... but before you crown him the best thing for the Raiders lets look at closely at those games:

*Campbell started 5 of those games, even though Cable wanted Gradkowski to start basically the entire season

*In the one divisional game that Gradkowski started, Campbell came in off the bench after Gradkowski was injured.

And sure going 6-0 in the division is great. But it's better if you can tie those victories to more then 2 other wins the entire season. Cable was also the same coach that went 0-6 against the rest of the AFC, and 2 and 2 against the NFC.

you realize that was posted about thirty posts ago, right?

I encourage you to read the thread.

 

[massraider]

Read the Details

I encourage you to read the details of the contract before jumping on the Raiders. The contract was going to be voided this year when he didn't break his 2009 numbers. It was a previously agreed to stipulation in the contract.

The Cable talk in this thread is silly. Cable seems to be getting the credit for what Hue Jackson accomplished with his offence this year. Like massraider pointed it already, it would have been great to keep Cable for some consistency. But at $2.5 mill/year I'm not sure he is worth it. The Raiders aren't the 49ers or the Dolphins and be throwing money around at HC's anytime soon.

Sure, Cable went 6-0 in the division... but before you crown him the best thing for the Raiders lets look at closely at those games:

*Campbell started 5 of those games, even though Cable wanted Gradkowski to start basically the entire season

*In the one divisional game that Gradkowski started, Campbell came in off the bench after Gradkowski was injured.

And sure going 6-0 in the division is great. But it's better if you can tie those victories to more then 2 other wins the entire season. Cable was also the same coach that went 0-6 against the rest of the AFC, and 2 and 2 against the NFC.

you realize that was posted about thirty posts ago, right?

I encourage you to read the thread.

It seems like no one else read it, judging by their comments, will you be scolding them as well?

 

[kaso]

Read the Details

I encourage you to read the details of the contract before jumping on the Raiders. The contract was going to be voided this year when he didn't break his 2009 numbers. It was a previously agreed to stipulation in the contract.

The Cable talk in this thread is silly. Cable seems to be getting the credit for what Hue Jackson accomplished with his offence this year. Like massraider pointed it already, it would have been great to keep Cable for some consistency. But at $2.5 mill/year I'm not sure he is worth it. The Raiders aren't the 49ers or the Dolphins and be throwing money around at HC's anytime soon.

Sure, Cable went 6-0 in the division... but before you crown him the best thing for the Raiders lets look at closely at those games:

*Campbell started 5 of those games, even though Cable wanted Gradkowski to start basically the entire season

*In the one divisional game that Gradkowski started, Campbell came in off the bench after Gradkowski was injured.

And sure going 6-0 in the division is great. But it's better if you can tie those victories to more then 2 other wins the entire season. Cable was also the same coach that went 0-6 against the rest of the AFC, and 2 and 2 against the NFC.

you realize that was posted about thirty posts ago, right?

I encourage you to read the thread.

Thank you for taking the time to educate me on message board posting etiquette. I'll be sure to come back for further direction on what I can and can't post.

 

[Judge Smails]

Stays in the Bay Area after Clements goes bye bye?

 

[massraider]

Stays in the Bay Area after Clements goes bye bye?

Makes a lot of sense.Actually, he makes sense for about 32 different teams.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

not for the pats

 

[Bojang0301]

Why are Raiders fans so gung ho about defending the front office? It's to the point where it pisses me off. Al has self-destructed that team since Jon Gruden. They should have won a championship if it weren't for Al's arrogance and deceitfulness. I'm glad some one has pointed out the obvious that the clause was already there and was going to happen. That isn't what, at very least, I am saying. What I am saying is: why is that clause even there to begin with? Not only is he the best player on your defense and team, he is one of the very best in the league and now he will most likely walk away without the Raiders getting anything. That is not how good organizations are run. Look at the Patriots: 1st for Seymour, 1st for Branch, 3rd for Moss and they had zero intention on paying any of those players.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Wow

Dont see how you just cut him.

If there was a player that the Lions should break their bank for its him. Doubt he would go there.

I have no illusions of AJ going after him either

 

[Warrior]

not for the pats

I disagree.

 

[cobalt_27]

Why are Raiders fans so gung ho about defending the front office? It's to the point where it pisses me off. Al has self-destructed that team since Jon Gruden. They should have won a championship if it weren't for Al's arrogance and deceitfulness. I'm glad some one has pointed out the obvious that the clause was already there and was going to happen. That isn't what, at very least, I am saying. What I am saying is: why is that clause even there to begin with? Not only is he the best player on your defense and team, he is one of the very best in the league and now he will most likely walk away without the Raiders getting anything. That is not how good organizations are run. Look at the Patriots: 1st for Seymour, 1st for Branch, 3rd for Moss and they had zero intention on paying any of those players.

Raiders fans have long taken their cue from their brain diseased owner. I don't think they know any other way.

 

[Sinrman]

Detroit Lions!*One can dream right?

Oh man, PLEASE! That would fill a monster hole and we could focus on other holes in the draft...

 

[njherdfan]

Even though his contract voided, is there a chance that he just re-signs with the Raiders for another huge payday?

 

[massraider]

Why are Raiders fans so gung ho about defending the front office? It's to the point where it pisses me off. Al has self-destructed that team since Jon Gruden. They should have won a championship if it weren't for Al's arrogance and deceitfulness. I'm glad some one has pointed out the obvious that the clause was already there and was going to happen. That isn't what, at very least, I am saying. What I am saying is: why is that clause even there to begin with? Not only is he the best player on your defense and team, he is one of the very best in the league and now he will most likely walk away without the Raiders getting anything. That is not how good organizations are run. Look at the Patriots: 1st for Seymour, 1st for Branch, 3rd for Moss and they had zero intention on paying any of those players.

Gruden--You have no idea what you are talking about. Read his book, find me a quote where he slams Al, and you might have a point. Any quote. Anywhere. Real quick--The Tampa job came available, the 'secret' was out that they wanted Gruden. Al called him into his office, asked him point blank if was interested, Jon said yes. Al then negotiated the trade. There were no hard feelings, and Al could have kept his coach, but he didn't. This is all per Gruden's book. As to this quote:

I'm glad some one has pointed out the obvious that the clause was already there and was going to happen

Not quite sure what that means but I will say this: It was a NLTBE clause. Not likely to be earned. Would you have bet money before the year that Nnamdi would have not gotten a sack, INT, or forced fumble this year? It was obvious to you this was going happen? Yeah?As to Raiders fans being gung ho defending the Raiders front office, you must be talking about me, because I am the only one that has bothered responding. And I'm not defending the Raiders front office, I am defending the notion that a team is stupid for allowing a player to leave. I could have sworn this happens every year. Contracts void, players play out their option. The Raiders had to drastically overpay just to get him to stay another year. They cannot MAKE him stay. And he wasn't signing a long term deal with the team because of the state of the team. And that is Al's fault. And if Nnamdi doesn't finish his career in Oakland, it'll be because of the poor job Al did in putting a team together.

I disagree with a lot of the Raiders moves. I'll be happy to list them. I'm no blind homer. They make a lot of mistakes. That doesn't mean that I don't get to call a spade a spade. There's some dumb stuff in this thread (like the Gruden stuff, and now people are referring to him as being 'cut'. I mean, WTF?), that I am trying to correct. That's all. Being a Raiders fan doesn't mean I don't get to do that just because my owner makes a lot of mistakes.

And being a fan of a good team, like the Steelers for instance, doesn't make ill-informed statements any more true.

 

[Dr. Gobbler]

Ray Lewis, get him on the phone please!!!

He's going to be a Raven!!!!

 

[Adebisi]

not for the pats

I disagree.

McCourty is already one of the better corners in the league (even on the left side), and they were happy with Bodden as a starter before he went down. They're probably expecting Butler and/or Arrington to improve between now and the start of the 2011 season.Asomugha is better than any of them, but the Patriots do not have a huge need at CB at this point. Their defense would probably best be served using that money to improve the front seven.

 

[Daywalker]

Why are Raiders fans so gung ho about defending the front office? It's to the point where it pisses me off. Al has self-destructed that team since Jon Gruden. They should have won a championship if it weren't for Al's arrogance and deceitfulness. I'm glad some one has pointed out the obvious that the clause was already there and was going to happen. That isn't what, at very least, I am saying. What I am saying is: why is that clause even there to begin with? Not only is he the best player on your defense and team, he is one of the very best in the league and now he will most likely walk away without the Raiders getting anything. That is not how good organizations are run. Look at the Patriots: 1st for Seymour, 1st for Branch, 3rd for Moss and they had zero intention on paying any of those players.

Gruden--You have no idea what you are talking about. Read his book, find me a quote where he slams Al, and you might have a point. Any quote. Anywhere. Real quick--The Tampa job came available, the 'secret' was out that they wanted Gruden. Al called him into his office, asked him point blank if was interested, Jon said yes. Al then negotiated the trade. There were no hard feelings, and Al could have kept his coach, but he didn't. This is all per Gruden's book. As to this quote:

I'm glad some one has pointed out the obvious that the clause was already there and was going to happen

Not quite sure what that means but I will say this: It was a NLTBE clause. Not likely to be earned. Would you have bet money before the year that Nnamdi would have not gotten a sack, INT, or forced fumble this year? It was obvious to you this was going happen? Yeah?As to Raiders fans being gung ho defending the Raiders front office, you must be talking about me, because I am the only one that has bothered responding. And I'm not defending the Raiders front office, I am defending the notion that a team is stupid for allowing a player to leave. I could have sworn this happens every year. Contracts void, players play out their option. The Raiders had to drastically overpay just to get him to stay another year. They cannot MAKE him stay. And he wasn't signing a long term deal with the team because of the state of the team. And that is Al's fault. And if Nnamdi doesn't finish his career in Oakland, it'll be because of the poor job Al did in putting a team together.

I disagree with a lot of the Raiders moves. I'll be happy to list them. I'm no blind homer. They make a lot of mistakes. That doesn't mean that I don't get to call a spade a spade. There's some dumb stuff in this thread (like the Gruden stuff, and now people are referring to him as being 'cut'. I mean, WTF?), that I am trying to correct. That's all. Being a Raiders fan doesn't mean I don't get to do that just because my owner makes a lot of mistakes.

And being a fan of a good team, like the Steelers for instance, doesn't make ill-informed statements any more true.

I think most are saying that Davis was foolish for trading Gruden. Not that their was bad-blood. A point you seem to be missing.

 

[Quez]

Despite us winning a SB I would still say trading that many draft picks for a coach is crazy. Oak just didn't capitalize on the picks.

 

[switz]

Please Indy, sign him.... please! It would be nice to get some DBs on the team....

 

[ditka85]

Raiders can still get a compensatory pick in 2012 for Aso, no?

 

[Jason Wood]

Needless to say he's going to receive an absolute monster contract and have just about every team with money to spend giving his agent a call. I would say Aso is in that rarefied air of free agents where he'll not have to choose between the most $$$ and the best fit. He'll have enough offers at huge bucks from any number of teams that he'll be able to pick WHERE he wants to be without really worrying about having to pass up the most loot.

 

[massraider]

Why are Raiders fans so gung ho about defending the front office? It's to the point where it pisses me off. Al has self-destructed that team since Jon Gruden. They should have won a championship if it weren't for Al's arrogance and deceitfulness. I'm glad some one has pointed out the obvious that the clause was already there and was going to happen. That isn't what, at very least, I am saying. What I am saying is: why is that clause even there to begin with? Not only is he the best player on your defense and team, he is one of the very best in the league and now he will most likely walk away without the Raiders getting anything. That is not how good organizations are run. Look at the Patriots: 1st for Seymour, 1st for Branch, 3rd for Moss and they had zero intention on paying any of those players.

Gruden--You have no idea what you are talking about. Read his book, find me a quote where he slams Al, and you might have a point. Any quote. Anywhere. Real quick--The Tampa job came available, the 'secret' was out that they wanted Gruden. Al called him into his office, asked him point blank if was interested, Jon said yes. Al then negotiated the trade. There were no hard feelings, and Al could have kept his coach, but he didn't. This is all per Gruden's book. As to this quote:

I'm glad some one has pointed out the obvious that the clause was already there and was going to happen

Not quite sure what that means but I will say this: It was a NLTBE clause. Not likely to be earned. Would you have bet money before the year that Nnamdi would have not gotten a sack, INT, or forced fumble this year? It was obvious to you this was going happen? Yeah?As to Raiders fans being gung ho defending the Raiders front office, you must be talking about me, because I am the only one that has bothered responding. And I'm not defending the Raiders front office, I am defending the notion that a team is stupid for allowing a player to leave. I could have sworn this happens every year. Contracts void, players play out their option. The Raiders had to drastically overpay just to get him to stay another year. They cannot MAKE him stay. And he wasn't signing a long term deal with the team because of the state of the team. And that is Al's fault. And if Nnamdi doesn't finish his career in Oakland, it'll be because of the poor job Al did in putting a team together.

I disagree with a lot of the Raiders moves. I'll be happy to list them. I'm no blind homer. They make a lot of mistakes. That doesn't mean that I don't get to call a spade a spade. There's some dumb stuff in this thread (like the Gruden stuff, and now people are referring to him as being 'cut'. I mean, WTF?), that I am trying to correct. That's all. Being a Raiders fan doesn't mean I don't get to do that just because my owner makes a lot of mistakes.

And being a fan of a good team, like the Steelers for instance, doesn't make ill-informed statements any more true.

I think most are saying that Davis was foolish for trading Gruden. Not that their was bad-blood. A point you seem to be missing.

How is that point being made? He referred to Davis' "arrogance and deceitfulness", not his "bad decision-making". How is anyone in this thread, let alone most people, making the point that I seem to be missing?

 

[Smack Tripper]

I'll mow his lawn if he comes to the Giants.

Add him and a LB and the Giants are a super bowl team.

 

[njherdfan]

Raiders beat writer predicts that he will wind up in Green Bay or with the Jets.

 

[LawFitz]

Raiders beat writer predicts that he will wind up in Green Bay or with the Jets.

How sad for Al if Green Bay gets ASO too. The old man may be senile, but he did draft Woodson and Asomough, the two best CBs of the last 10-15 years. And if Oakland sees a ripple effect of FA departures as a result of Cable and Nnamd leaving, look out. ASO, Gallery, Miller, Huff would be a big talent departure. I'm sure Al wants to resign Seymour after making the trade, but we'll see if he has leverage to do so with the new CBA shakeout.

Things could get ugly in Raiderland this offseason with so many nucleic free agents, no coach, a possibly pissed-off player base and no clear direction on the new rules/CBA. Yikes.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Things could get ugly in Raiderland this offseason with so many nucleic free agents, no coach, a possibly pissed-off player base and no clear direction on the new rules/CBA. Yikes.

yeah, the elephant man might get ugly, too.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Raiders beat writer predicts that he will wind up in Green Bay or with the Jets.

I really don't like the Jets but would be fascinated watching Revis and Asomugha on the same team.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Please Indy, sign him.... please! It would be nice to get some DBs on the team....

I can't say I follow everybody's payroll, but my impression was that indy wouldn't have the money available to sign a guy like asomuhfug.what with guys like manning and freeney already on the team.green bay -- didn't they just sign williams and woodson to deals and pick up shields?aren't they a somewhat cheap team, but they're going to sign aso for twice what woodson's getting on top of those 3 guys?I don't get it.jets - I suppose if the jets ditch cro they could use aso, but like indy, I was under the impression that the economics of it would be prohibitive.don't they have a bunch of core guys looking for money?

 

[KiddLattimer]

I'll mow his lawn if he comes to the Giants.Add him and a LB and the Giants are a super bowl team.

I'll trim the hedges and wash the windows

 

[Johnny Rock]

Do we really need 32 posts saying "I hope he signs with my team!"???

Nobody mentioned the Vikings yet? Zygi Wilf has opened the checkbook before and MN was decimated at CB in 2010.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

minny plays a different defense --- not sure if you pay the guy top dollar when he might not be as effective.

not to say that they couldn't change up, but I doubt you do that just to sign a corner.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Raiders can still get a compensatory pick in 2012 for Aso, no?

If the team voided the contract, I don't think so. But I'm not certain.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

they didn't void it --- it just expired based on the language.

I don't know all the ins and outs of it, but I think they probably get a good comp pick from him depending on their net signings/losses.

 

[njherdfan]

they didn't void it --- it just expired based on the language.I don't know all the ins and outs of it, but I think they probably get a good comp pick from him depending on their net signings/losses.

I don't think they'd get a good comp pick if Aso was an unrestricted free agent. The Panthers didn't get a pick from the Bears, did they?

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

like I said, I'm no expert, but I think it's contingent upon your net signings/losses.

edit: wait...is the peppers thing even done yet?

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

It is contingent on a few things, and yeah the net/signings losses is a big part. It also depends on how much he signs his next contract for.

But indeed Larry is correct as I see that "In order to qualify for the comp equation, a player must have been a true Unrestricted Free Agent whose contract had expired or was voided after the previous season."

 

[cacksman]

I hope Aso likes earthquakes.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41003469/ns/lo...ews-seattle_wa/

 

[massraider]

like I said, I'm no expert, but I think it's contingent upon your net signings/losses.

Pretty much. Aso will most certainly qualify for the highest possible comp pick. If the Raiders were to sign a big ticket UFA themselves it could actually 'cancel out' the Aso signing. But the player must have an expiring contract, like Aso, not be cut for cap purposes.

 

[Daywalker]

Why are Raiders fans so gung ho about defending the front office? It's to the point where it pisses me off. Al has self-destructed that team since Jon Gruden. They should have won a championship if it weren't for Al's arrogance and deceitfulness. I'm glad some one has pointed out the obvious that the clause was already there and was going to happen. That isn't what, at very least, I am saying. What I am saying is: why is that clause even there to begin with? Not only is he the best player on your defense and team, he is one of the very best in the league and now he will most likely walk away without the Raiders getting anything. That is not how good organizations are run. Look at the Patriots: 1st for Seymour, 1st for Branch, 3rd for Moss and they had zero intention on paying any of those players.

Gruden--You have no idea what you are talking about. Read his book, find me a quote where he slams Al, and you might have a point. Any quote. Anywhere. Real quick--The Tampa job came available, the 'secret' was out that they wanted Gruden. Al called him into his office, asked him point blank if was interested, Jon said yes. Al then negotiated the trade. There were no hard feelings, and Al could have kept his coach, but he didn't. This is all per Gruden's book. As to this quote:

I'm glad some one has pointed out the obvious that the clause was already there and was going to happen

Not quite sure what that means but I will say this: It was a NLTBE clause. Not likely to be earned. Would you have bet money before the year that Nnamdi would have not gotten a sack, INT, or forced fumble this year? It was obvious to you this was going happen? Yeah?As to Raiders fans being gung ho defending the Raiders front office, you must be talking about me, because I am the only one that has bothered responding. And I'm not defending the Raiders front office, I am defending the notion that a team is stupid for allowing a player to leave. I could have sworn this happens every year. Contracts void, players play out their option. The Raiders had to drastically overpay just to get him to stay another year. They cannot MAKE him stay. And he wasn't signing a long term deal with the team because of the state of the team. And that is Al's fault. And if Nnamdi doesn't finish his career in Oakland, it'll be because of the poor job Al did in putting a team together.

I disagree with a lot of the Raiders moves. I'll be happy to list them. I'm no blind homer. They make a lot of mistakes. That doesn't mean that I don't get to call a spade a spade. There's some dumb stuff in this thread (like the Gruden stuff, and now people are referring to him as being 'cut'. I mean, WTF?), that I am trying to correct. That's all. Being a Raiders fan doesn't mean I don't get to do that just because my owner makes a lot of mistakes.

And being a fan of a good team, like the Steelers for instance, doesn't make ill-informed statements any more true.

I think most are saying that Davis was foolish for trading Gruden. Not that their was bad-blood. A point you seem to be missing.

How is that point being made? He referred to Davis' "arrogance and deceitfulness", not his "bad decision-making". How is anyone in this thread, let alone most people, making the point that I seem to be missing?

Al's arrogance was that he could just replace Gruden with anyone. "Deceifulness?" I don't agree with. Al got rid of a coach that brought him to the door of the Super Bowl. Then he got beat by the same coach. It's one of the most idiotic moves in the history of sports.

 

[renesauz]

Why are Raiders fans so gung ho about defending the front office? It's to the point where it pisses me off. Al has self-destructed that team since Jon Gruden. They should have won a championship if it weren't for Al's arrogance and deceitfulness. I'm glad some one has pointed out the obvious that the clause was already there and was going to happen. That isn't what, at very least, I am saying. What I am saying is: why is that clause even there to begin with? Not only is he the best player on your defense and team, he is one of the very best in the league and now he will most likely walk away without the Raiders getting anything. That is not how good organizations are run. Look at the Patriots: 1st for Seymour, 1st for Branch, 3rd for Moss and they had zero intention on paying any of those players.

I don't think anyone is "gung ho about defending the front office"...NOT AT ALL. They're simply pointing out that this particular concundrum can't be laid directly on their front step. The Raiders had no chance to keep Namdi under the current conditions.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Maybe our idiot owner can make amends by bringing him to Miami.

Your owner's not an idiot, he's just much more of a University of Michigan fan than he is a Dolphin fan. Aso to either Washington or Dallas is too obvious.

 

[CalBear]

Please Indy, sign him.... please! It would be nice to get some DBs on the team....

I can't say I follow everybody's payroll, but my impression was that indy wouldn't have the money available to sign a guy like asomuhfug.what with guys like manning and freeney already on the team.green bay -- didn't they just sign williams and woodson to deals and pick up shields?aren't they a somewhat cheap team, but they're going to sign aso for twice what woodson's getting on top of those 3 guys?I don't get it.jets - I suppose if the jets ditch cro they could use aso, but like indy, I was under the impression that the economics of it would be prohibitive.don't they have a bunch of core guys looking for money?

There is not currently any kind of salary cap; teams are limited only by what they want to spend.

 

[massraider]

Al's arrogance was that he could just replace Gruden with anyone. "Deceifulness?" I don't agree with. Al got rid of a coach that brought him to the door of the Super Bowl. Then he got beat by the same coach. It's one of the most idiotic moves in the history of sports.

Wow, and thats the point I was missing? Amazing! Has nothing to do with what we were talking about, and no one made that point till you did, but I somehow missed it. Weird! I was being sarcastic before. No one was making the point you pulled out of your ###, and I didn't miss it.Gruden wanted the job. He was going to move on. Al couldn't make him stay. He might have kept him another year, but that was it. I feel like people know this about other teams, but when it comes to Oakland, they should never let coaches or players leave.Nnamdi played out his deal, played two more years for big money, kinda like a franchise player, and Al is the dummy? what should he do, lock him in a basement with Gruden, so both can't leave?

 

[CalBear]

Nnamdi played out his deal, played two more years for big money, kinda like a franchise player, and Al is the dummy? what should he do, lock him in a basement with Gruden, so both can't leave?

He should get the heck out of football operations so people aren't so eager to get the heck out of town.

 

[Autumn Wind]

Nnamdi played out his deal, played two more years for big money, kinda like a franchise player, and Al is the dummy? what should he do, lock him in a basement with Gruden, so both can't leave?

He should get the heck out of football operations so people aren't so eager to get the heck out of town.

Because free agents leaving a team is unique to Oakland?

 

[CalBear]

Nnamdi played out his deal, played two more years for big money, kinda like a franchise player, and Al is the dummy? what should he do, lock him in a basement with Gruden, so both can't leave?

He should get the heck out of football operations so people aren't so eager to get the heck out of town.

Because free agents leaving a team is unique to Oakland?

Good teams don't let good coaches and their best players walk.

 

[Jason Wood]

Nnamdi played out his deal, played two more years for big money, kinda like a franchise player, and Al is the dummy? what should he do, lock him in a basement with Gruden, so both can't leave?

He should get the heck out of football operations so people aren't so eager to get the heck out of town.

Because free agents leaving a team is unique to Oakland?

Good teams don't let good coaches and their best players walk.

Is Cable really a good coach though? It seems that the majority of people, Raiders fans included, were disappointed that they KEPT Cable last year after his alleged incident with the physical altercation and some of the things he said on and off the field. Granted 8-8 and a 6-0 division record was an impressive step in the right direction, but I have a hard time believing he's suddenly THE guy to turn around that franchise.

 

[CalBear]

Nnamdi played out his deal, played two more years for big money, kinda like a franchise player, and Al is the dummy? what should he do, lock him in a basement with Gruden, so both can't leave?

He should get the heck out of football operations so people aren't so eager to get the heck out of town.

Because free agents leaving a team is unique to Oakland?

Good teams don't let good coaches and their best players walk.

Is Cable really a good coach though? It seems that the majority of people, Raiders fans included, were disappointed that they KEPT Cable last year after his alleged incident with the physical altercation and some of the things he said on and off the field. Granted 8-8 and a 6-0 division record was an impressive step in the right direction, but I have a hard time believing he's suddenly THE guy to turn around that franchise.

Gruden was definitely a good coach. I'm not sure Cable is a good coach, but I think it's likely that Cable is at least as good as anyone who would be willing to work for Al at this point.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Why does Green Bay make sense for him? First and foremost, a solid chance to win a ring. When you look at how well the Pack is playing this year despite 1/3rd of their original team on IR, you have to assume they'll be a superbowl favorite if not the superbowl favorite in 2012.

Second, Green Bay's defense is on the verge of going from good to 'special'. The pieces are there, along with the coach, to take that next step to being considered one of the best defenses we've seen in a long time. I believe a top DB would want to be a part of that.

Third, Woodson's slowing down speed-wise, and may be moved to safety (actually, he should be moved to safety). As good as Shields is, he's so far only a high-end CB3. That would then leave an opening for CB2 (or CB1b since Williams has proven 'elite' now as well).

Fourth, Green Bay has money to burn, and despite TT's cheapness in FA, the only player he's ever dropped the bank for was a CB (Woodson).

I think it makes perfect sense.

 

[sho nuff]

Why does Green Bay make sense for him? First and foremost, a solid chance to win a ring. When you look at how well the Pack is playing this year despite 1/3rd of their original team on IR, you have to assume they'll be a superbowl favorite if not the superbowl favorite in 2012.

Second, Green Bay's defense is on the verge of going from good to 'special'. The pieces are there, along with the coach, to take that next step to being considered one of the best defenses we've seen in a long time. I believe a top DB would want to be a part of that.

Third, Woodson's slowing down speed-wise, and may be moved to safety (actually, he should be moved to safety). As good as Shields is, he's so far only a high-end CB3. That would then leave an opening for CB2 (or CB1b since Williams has proven 'elite' now as well).

Fourth, Green Bay has money to burn, and despite TT's cheapness in FA, the only player he's ever dropped the bank for was a CB (Woodson).

I think it makes perfect sense.

People always get giddy at these things.And I think its a long shot.

But it would make that defense downright filthy good.

Get Jolly back, add back in Neal, Jenkins, Pickett, Raji to rotate on the line. That 2ndary behind them. And Clay rushing the QB?

Still I have no thoughts that it would ever happen.