Asuming Jerry Porter is gone in OAK (1 Viewer)

[Weiner Dog]

History shows the #2 WR opposite Randy Moss can be golden. Assuming Porter is traded (...which is a big assumption since OAK is supposedly asking for two 1st-round picks), who gets the nod in the 2-hole??

Curry is a monster...

...when he plays. He's supposedly 100%, but has torn two achilles the past two seasons.

Gabriel is not the athlete/receiver that Curry is, but he's quietly netted 500+ yards the past two seasons.

Curry or Porter??

 

[Biabreakable]

I think Gabriel is the better Wr and quite an athlete. Not sure why you think Curry's physical skills are better than Gabriels WD?

Curry was converted to Wr so a more raw talent than Gabriel.

 

[Zaphod]

I know people love Curry's athletic ability and they just drooled over his nice run in 04, but I just can't see getting too hyped over a guy that has that kind of injury baggage.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Good topic, I would like to hear more, especially from people who have seen Gabriel/Curry play.

 

[JohnnyU]

Curry has talent, but he has ruptured the same Achilles tendon two years in a row. I'm putting my money on Gabriel.

Edited to say that I'm not sure it was the same Achilles tendon. Was it the left in 2004 and the righ in 2005?

Edited again to say it was the same Achilles tendon -

Sep. 19, 2005 - 7:26 p.m. ET

Ronald Curry will miss the rest of the season with a torn Achilles' tendon.

It is the same Achilles he tore in week 13 of last season. Curry is under contract at a cheap rate for 2006, so the Raiders will closely watch his rehab. Redraft leaguers should obviously drop him. Doug Gabriel, who figures to replace him, is back on the fantasy radar.

 

[menobrown]

Does anyone know the long term effects of achilles injuries besides the fact that when you get one you seem to have a propensity to get another one?

I mean like with a major ACL injury you know the player will never be quite 100%. Is it the same with an achilles?

Because while I think Gabriel is a perfectly fine #2 WR I think Curry is better IF he is healthy.

One thing that really jumps out at me about Curry is his percentage of receptions based on times thrown to. It's exeptionall really.

 

[JohnnyU]

Does anyone know the long term effects of achilles injuries besides the fact that when you get one you seem to have a propensity to get another one?

I mean like with a major ACL injury you know the player will never be quite 100%. Is it the same with an achilles?

Because while I think Gabriel is a perfectly fine #2 WR I think Curry is better IF he is healthy.

One thing that really jumps out at me about Curry is his percentage of receptions based on times thrown to. It's exeptionall really.

I think he tore the same Achilles tendon 2 years in a row.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Curry has ruptured the same Achilles tendon two years in a row.

Yes, that seems to make him a pretty big risk, I although I really don't know whether that injury is particularly likely to occur again. Maybe it's bad luck, like Charles Rogers' collar bone seems to have been. I'd love to hear input from somebody who knows.When Curry is healthy, though, he's got major stud potential. He made a number of sick catches toward the end of the season in 2004. He's got great hands, he can run and jump, and he showed surprisingly good footwork two years ago.

I'd love to see what he can do if he can return to 100%.

Gabriel is good as well. Nice size, good hands. But I think Curry could be special.

I don't think the Raiders would miss Jerry Porter all that much.

 

[Bears_Man2]

Does anyone know the long term effects of achilles injuries besides the fact that when you get one you seem to have a propensity to get another one?

I mean like with a major ACL injury you know the player will never be quite 100%. Is it the same with an achilles?

Because while I think Gabriel is a perfectly fine #2 WR I think Curry is better IF he is healthy.

One thing that really jumps out at me about Curry is his percentage of receptions based on times thrown to. It's exeptionall really.

I think he tore the same Achilles tendon 2 years in a row.

I thought this was the case too (and still do), but on the NFL Network last night (or night before) they were talking about Pinkston's other achilles bugging him. Then they said something to the extent that Curry tore his other achilles last year. (As to make a point that there was a history of tearing the other achilles with players).

 

[JohnnyU]

Does anyone know the long term effects of achilles injuries besides the fact that when you get one you seem to have a propensity to get another one?

I mean like with a major ACL injury you know the player will never be quite 100%. Is it the same with an achilles?

Because while I think Gabriel is a perfectly fine #2 WR I think Curry is better IF he is healthy.

One thing that really jumps out at me about Curry is his percentage of receptions based on times thrown to. It's exeptionall really.

I think he tore the same Achilles tendon 2 years in a row.

I thought this was the case too (and still do), but on the NFL Network last night (or night before) they were talking about Pinkston's other achilles bugging him. Then they said something to the extent that Curry tore his other achilles last year. (As to make a point that there was a history of tearing the other achilles with players).

Sep. 19, 2005 - 7:26 p.m. ET Ronald Curry will miss the rest of the season with a torn Achilles' tendon.

It is the same Achilles he tore in week 13 of last season. Curry is under contract at a cheap rate for 2006, so the Raiders will closely watch his rehab. Redraft leaguers should obviously drop him. Doug Gabriel, who figures to replace him, is back on the fantasy radar.

USA Today

 

[Cookiemonster]

Gabriel is my favorite, but that is just a matter of preferance. Curry is better in and out of his cuts and seems to have better hands, but Gabriel has good, deep-ball/straight-line speed and goes up for the ball well. He is much bigger and stronger than Curry. He reminds me of a Wilford or Boldin while Curry is more of a B.Engram or C.Wilson.

 

[Big Score]

If I'm not mistaken, Curry tore the Achilles in College as well.

 

[JohnnyU]

If I'm not mistaken, Curry tore the Achilles in College as well.

Yes he did1999 ... Sophomore Season

Despite missing more than six contests after rupturing his right Achilles... tendon vs. Georgia Tech, he led UNC in total offense yards, pass completions and passing yards ...

Here

So that makes two torn left Achilles tendons (2004 and 2005), and one torn right Achilles tendon (1999).

 

[RestoreTheROAR]

Where is Porter heading?

 

[Lightning Fast Whip]

Where is Porter heading?

to the bench

 

[Colin Dowling]

History shows the #2 WR opposite Randy Moss can be golden. Assuming Porter is traded (...which is a big assumption since OAK is supposedly asking for two 1st-round picks), who gets the nod in the 2-hole??

Curry is a monster...

...when he plays. He's supposedly 100%, but has torn two achilles the past two seasons.

Gabriel is not the athlete/receiver that Curry is, but he's quietly netted 500+ yards the past two seasons.

Curry or Porter??

No it hasn't.Colin

 

[Big Score]

History shows the #2 WR opposite Randy Moss can be golden.  Assuming Porter is traded (...which is a big assumption since OAK is supposedly asking for two 1st-round picks), who gets the nod in the 2-hole??

Curry is a monster...

...when he plays.  He's supposedly 100%, but has torn two achilles the past two seasons.

Gabriel is not the athlete/receiver that Curry is, but he's quietly netted 500+ yards the past two seasons.

Curry or Porter??

No it hasn't.Colin

Wasn't Cris Carter pretty good when playing across from Moss?

 

[Colin Dowling]

History shows the #2 WR opposite Randy Moss can be golden. Assuming Porter is traded (...which is a big assumption since OAK is supposedly asking for two 1st-round picks), who gets the nod in the 2-hole??

Curry is a monster...

...when he plays. He's supposedly 100%, but has torn two achilles the past two seasons.

Gabriel is not the athlete/receiver that Curry is, but he's quietly netted 500+ yards the past two seasons.

Curry or Porter??

No it hasn't.Colin

Wasn't Cris Carter pretty good when playing across from Moss?

Wasn't Cris Carter already pretty good when Randy Moss was still getting tossed out of college?

 

[Big Score]

History shows the #2 WR opposite Randy Moss can be golden.  Assuming Porter is traded (...which is a big assumption since OAK is supposedly asking for two 1st-round picks), who gets the nod in the 2-hole??

Curry is a monster...

...when he plays.  He's supposedly 100%, but has torn two achilles the past two seasons.

Gabriel is not the athlete/receiver that Curry is, but he's quietly netted 500+ yards the past two seasons.

Curry or Porter??

No it hasn't.Colin

Wasn't Cris Carter pretty good when playing across from Moss?

Wasn't Cris Carter already pretty good when Randy Moss was still getting tossed out of college?

Yep.Regardless, he was still pretty good playing across from Moss, wasn't he?

Burleson had his breakout year in 2004 across from Moss as well, right?

11 games across from Moss for 709 yards and a per game average of 64.5 yards.

5 games without Moss for 297 yards and a per game average of 59.4 yards.

 

[massraider]

My thoughts as a Raiders homer:

First, I am not sure Porter goes. I hope he does, I think shipping his Ashley Lelie routine out of town would put some bite behind Art Shell's very tough bark. However, the Raiders tend to be player friendly, it is rare for a player to be considered a lost cause (Philip Buchanon notwithstanding). Also, the Raiders don't have to do a dang thing with him. There's no rush. His contract isn't expiring, he has zero leverage. And it's not like the Raiders to give players away in deals. As bad as they've been in recent years, it's not because of bads trading. There's a good chance they could let him rot on the roster till he wises up.

Having said that, I think there's a good chance he's gone, or as good as gone (by being benched, whatever). If so:

Going by what I've seen, Curry, when healthy, has been the more reliable receiver. He worked mostly in the slot, and was often looked for on third down. And still has deep speed. Gabriel worked mostly outside the hashes, and was a favorite target of Collins on deep routes. Now, maybe Gabriel has the ability to be a possession guy as well, perhaps it was just the situation, and the previous staff's scheme. Can't say for sure. But the general consensus in Raider Nation was that Curry, despite a new position, was more polished as a receiver.

But I'm not expecting anything from Curry this year. Three Achilles injuries? He seems to be a great guy, I root for him, but I am not optimistic. Maybe I should be, he has said he is 100%, and has been working out full speed in camp, although not with the team (is that a contradiction?). The point I'm trying to get at is his injury is not considered a current situation.

If I had to make a prediction, assuming all are healthy:

Moss gets his numbers, and Curry and Gabe have good weeks, then quiet weeks. If all are healthy, I see their numbers being close. Maybe Curry with more catches, and Gabe with more big plays.

So, considering the health issue, I'd go with Gabe, especially in leagues that reward big plays.

Super sleeper: If Curry goes down, and Porter is gone, a nice guy to have on deep leagues for an occasional start could be Alvis Whitted. He's a smart vet, who is very fast, knows the system, and might be the best possession guy after Porter on the team. Every year we Raider fans think he's getting cut, and every year, he makes the team and contributes. Just a thought.

 

[Weiner Dog]

History shows the #2 WR opposite Randy Moss can be golden. Assuming Porter is traded (...which is a big assumption since OAK is supposedly asking for two 1st-round picks), who gets the nod in the 2-hole??

Curry is a monster...

...when he plays. He's supposedly 100%, but has torn two achilles the past two seasons.

Gabriel is not the athlete/receiver that Curry is, but he's quietly netted 500+ yards the past two seasons.

Curry or Porter??

No it hasn't.Colin

Wasn't Cris Carter pretty good when playing across from Moss?

Wasn't Cris Carter already pretty good when Randy Moss was still getting tossed out of college?

In Moss' 8-year career, the WR starting opposite him netted 1000+ yards 4 times. Heck, the #2 had less than 871 yards only two of those seasons ('02-'03).

Moss owned Carter from Day 1.

 

[Weiner Dog]

My thoughts as a Raiders homer:

First, I am not sure Porter goes. I hope he does, I think shipping his Ashley Lelie routine out of town would put some bite behind Art Shell's very tough bark. However, the Raiders tend to be player friendly, it is rare for a player to be considered a lost cause (Philip Buchanon notwithstanding). Also, the Raiders don't have to do a dang thing with him. There's no rush. His contract isn't expiring, he has zero leverage. And it's not like the Raiders to give players away in deals. As bad as they've been in recent years, it's not because of bads trading. There's a good chance they could let him rot on the roster till he wises up.

Having said that, I think there's a good chance he's gone, or as good as gone (by being benched, whatever). If so:

Going by what I've seen, Curry, when healthy, has been the more reliable receiver. He worked mostly in the slot, and was often looked for on third down. And still has deep speed. Gabriel worked mostly outside the hashes, and was a favorite target of Collins on deep routes. Now, maybe Gabriel has the ability to be a possession guy as well, perhaps it was just the situation, and the previous staff's scheme. Can't say for sure. But the general consensus in Raider Nation was that Curry, despite a new position, was more polished as a receiver.

But I'm not expecting anything from Curry this year. Three Achilles injuries? He seems to be a great guy, I root for him, but I am not optimistic. Maybe I should be, he has said he is 100%, and has been working out full speed in camp, although not with the team (is that a contradiction?). The point I'm trying to get at is his injury is not considered a current situation.

If I had to make a prediction, assuming all are healthy:

Moss gets his numbers, and Curry and Gabe have good weeks, then quiet weeks. If all are healthy, I see their numbers being close. Maybe Curry with more catches, and Gabe with more big plays.

So, considering the health issue, I'd go with Gabe, especially in leagues that reward big plays.

Super sleeper: If Curry goes down, and Porter is gone, a nice guy to have on deep leagues for an occasional start could be Alvis Whitted. He's a smart vet, who is very fast, knows the system, and might be the best possession guy after Porter on the team. Every year we Raider fans think he's getting cut, and every year, he makes the team and contributes. Just a thought.

Bingo...this is good stuff!

 

[Colin Dowling]

History shows the #2 WR opposite Randy Moss can be golden. Assuming Porter is traded (...which is a big assumption since OAK is supposedly asking for two 1st-round picks), who gets the nod in the 2-hole??

Curry is a monster...

...when he plays. He's supposedly 100%, but has torn two achilles the past two seasons.

Gabriel is not the athlete/receiver that Curry is, but he's quietly netted 500+ yards the past two seasons.

Curry or Porter??

No it hasn't.Colin

Wasn't Cris Carter pretty good when playing across from Moss?

Wasn't Cris Carter already pretty good when Randy Moss was still getting tossed out of college?

Yep.Regardless, he was still pretty good playing across from Moss, wasn't he?

Burleson had his breakout year in 2004 across from Moss as well, right?

11 games across from Moss for 709 yards and a per game average of 64.5 yards.

5 games without Moss for 297 yards and a per game average of 59.4 yards.

Min - WR2 - 2002 - 50r, 689y, 4tMin - WR2 - 2003 - 25r, 522y, 4t

When Cris Carter, Jerry Porter, or Nate Burleson are not prominently involved, the WR2 is good, not great. You kind of have to decide if it's the man or the opportunity. I tend to side with "it's the man" as Carter and Porter above have displayed some talent/production to a large degree without Moss on the other side of the field.

Do I think the WR2 in Oakland will be a reasonable late round bet? Certainly. But considering a new coach, new offense, new QB, and the fact that MOss has been postively un-Moss-like for the better part of two seasons, I won't be all that angry if the Oak WR2 doesn't make it to me for value.

 

[Big Score]

History shows the #2 WR opposite Randy Moss can be golden.  Assuming Porter is traded (...which is a big assumption since OAK is supposedly asking for two 1st-round picks), who gets the nod in the 2-hole??

Curry is a monster...

...when he plays.  He's supposedly 100%, but has torn two achilles the past two seasons.

Gabriel is not the athlete/receiver that Curry is, but he's quietly netted 500+ yards the past two seasons.

Curry or Porter??

No it hasn't.Colin

Wasn't Cris Carter pretty good when playing across from Moss?

Wasn't Cris Carter already pretty good when Randy Moss was still getting tossed out of college?

Yep.Regardless, he was still pretty good playing across from Moss, wasn't he?

Burleson had his breakout year in 2004 across from Moss as well, right?

11 games across from Moss for 709 yards and a per game average of 64.5 yards.

5 games without Moss for 297 yards and a per game average of 59.4 yards.

Min - WR2 - 2002 - 50r, 689y, 4tMin - WR2 - 2003 - 25r, 522y, 4t

When Cris Carter, Jerry Porter, or Nate Burleson are not prominently involved, the WR2 is good, not great. You kind of have to decide if it's the man or the opportunity. I tend to side with "it's the man" as Carter and Porter above have displayed some talent/production to a large degree without Moss on the other side of the field.

Do I think the WR2 in Oakland will be a reasonable late round bet? Certainly. But considering a new coach, new offense, new QB, and the fact that MOss has been postively un-Moss-like for the better part of two seasons, I won't be all that angry if the Oak WR2 doesn't make it to me for value.

Fair enough

 

[massraider]

History shows the #2 WR opposite Randy Moss can be golden.  Assuming Porter is traded (...which is a big assumption since OAK is supposedly asking for two 1st-round picks), who gets the nod in the 2-hole??

Curry is a monster...

...when he plays.  He's supposedly 100%, but has torn two achilles the past two seasons.

Gabriel is not the athlete/receiver that Curry is, but he's quietly netted 500+ yards the past two seasons.

Curry or Porter??

No it hasn't.Colin

Wasn't Cris Carter pretty good when playing across from Moss?

Wasn't Cris Carter already pretty good when Randy Moss was still getting tossed out of college?

Yep.Regardless, he was still pretty good playing across from Moss, wasn't he?

Burleson had his breakout year in 2004 across from Moss as well, right?

11 games across from Moss for 709 yards and a per game average of 64.5 yards.

5 games without Moss for 297 yards and a per game average of 59.4 yards.

Min - WR2 - 2002 - 50r, 689y, 4tMin - WR2 - 2003 - 25r, 522y, 4t

When Cris Carter, Jerry Porter, or Nate Burleson are not prominently involved, the WR2 is good, not great. You kind of have to decide if it's the man or the opportunity. I tend to side with "it's the man" as Carter and Porter above have displayed some talent/production to a large degree without Moss on the other side of the field.

Do I think the WR2 in Oakland will be a reasonable late round bet? Certainly. But considering a new coach, new offense, new QB, and the fact that MOss has been postively un-Moss-like for the better part of two seasons, I won't be all that angry if the Oak WR2 doesn't make it to me for value.

Yep, I think there a more interesting, less crowded situations out there.Slight hijack, but along the same vein: Brooks always seemed to look to his TE's in New Orleans. Courtney Anderson could make a great 2nd or 3rd TE. Should outperform his ADP, I'd say.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Slight hijack, but along the same vein: Brooks always seemed to look to his TE's in New Orleans. Courtney Anderson could make a great 2nd or 3rd TE. Should outperform his ADP, I'd say.

That is simply not true. WIth the exception of Boo Williams's bizarre breakout some years ago, Brooks's TEs have essentially been worthless.COlin

 

[massraider]

Slight hijack, but along the same vein: Brooks always seemed to look to his TE's in New Orleans. Courtney Anderson could make a great 2nd or 3rd TE. Should outperform his ADP, I'd say.

That is simply not true. WIth the exception of Boo Williams's bizarre breakout some years ago, Brooks's TEs have essentially been worthless.COlin

Hmm, I'll have to double check. Sorry, didn't mean to mislead anyone.

 

[PocketPasser]

FYI Gabriel's price has gone up if you're in a dynasty league, have him, and are looking to trade him. You might get some sweet deals. I had WR strength, needed IDP help, and hooked up with someone in my league with the opposite situation. I think we'll both be happy.

 

[Poppa]

IIRC...Morant was a monster last pre-season. Any word on his progress this Spring?

 

[ConstruxBoy]

IIRC...Morant was a monster last pre-season. Any word on his progress this Spring?

 

[wannabee]

IIRC...Morant was a monster last pre-season.  Any word on his progress this Spring?

I heard Jerry Rice talking about him a little today on Sirius. I could not catch it all, but I think he liked Morant but not more than the others. I did hear Rice say that he and Tim Brown talked about Porter and Porter was one of those young guys who would not listen to anyone, even back then, trying to help.

 

[toxicbees]

Curry is probably their best bet as a 2nd WR. However, it's still too early to tell if he's recovered from his achillies injury. I'd wait to see how he does in the pre-season. Gabriel is a raw talent, but he seems to be too much in the Randy Moss mold, and doesn't compliment Randy well like Curry does. Curry sort of reminds me of Hines Ward, he can get those tough inside yards and gets lots of RAC yards.

As for a sleeper at the position, I really like Carlos Francis. He posted the fastest 40 time at the 2004 combine. However, he has some hamstring problems, and I just heard he might be out 1-3 weeks. However, I remember the first 2005 pre-season game, Francis caught a 36 yard td and had 87 yard kick-return td. The guy has serious speed.

Another sleeper is Johnnie Morant. He had a great 2005 pre-season, leading all Raiders receivers. At 6-4, 220 pounds, Morant is a big target that just needs some playing time.

The obvious sleeper is Alvis Whitted, but I just don't think he has the same upside as either Francis or Morant.

 

[massraider]

The obvious sleeper is Alvis Whitted, but I just don't think he has the same upside as either Francis or Morant.

Francis' upside is making the team. He has been injured yet again, and Chris Carr has the punt return duties. For a WR that is 5'9" or whatever, he needs to make more noise that he currently is.Morant may have more upside than Whitted, but this season? I would think Whitted is ahead of him in the pecking order.

 

[el centro]

I've already grabbed Gabriel in a couple of leagues. Even if Porter isn't traded - tough to imagine him climbing out of Shell's doghouse too soon. Gabriel's put up decent numbers the past 2 seasons - and did well in Randy's absence last year.

 

[toxicbees]

The obvious sleeper is Alvis Whitted, but I just don't think he has the same upside as either Francis or Morant.

Francis' upside is making the team. He has been injured yet again, and Chris Carr has the punt return duties. For a WR that is 5'9" or whatever, he needs to make more noise that he currently is.Morant may have more upside than Whitted, but this season? I would think Whitted is ahead of him in the pecking order.

You're right, I was just impressed with his speed. But I guess after hamstring problems he might not be so speedy right now.

 

[BlackHole]

My thoughts as a Raiders homer:

First, I am not sure Porter goes. I hope he does, I think shipping his Ashley Lelie routine out of town would put some bite behind Art Shell's very tough bark. However, the Raiders tend to be player friendly, it is rare for a player to be considered a lost cause (Philip Buchanon notwithstanding). Also, the Raiders don't have to do a dang thing with him. There's no rush. His contract isn't expiring, he has zero leverage. And it's not like the Raiders to give players away in deals. As bad as they've been in recent years, it's not because of bads trading. There's a good chance they could let him rot on the roster till he wises up.

Having said that, I think there's a good chance he's gone, or as good as gone (by being benched, whatever). If so:

Going by what I've seen, Curry, when healthy, has been the more reliable receiver. He worked mostly in the slot, and was often looked for on third down. And still has deep speed. Gabriel worked mostly outside the hashes, and was a favorite target of Collins on deep routes. Now, maybe Gabriel has the ability to be a possession guy as well, perhaps it was just the situation, and the previous staff's scheme. Can't say for sure. But the general consensus in Raider Nation was that Curry, despite a new position, was more polished as a receiver.

But I'm not expecting anything from Curry this year. Three Achilles injuries? He seems to be a great guy, I root for him, but I am not optimistic. Maybe I should be, he has said he is 100%, and has been working out full speed in camp, although not with the team (is that a contradiction?). The point I'm trying to get at is his injury is not considered a current situation.

If I had to make a prediction, assuming all are healthy:

Moss gets his numbers, and Curry and Gabe have good weeks, then quiet weeks. If all are healthy, I see their numbers being close. Maybe Curry with more catches, and Gabe with more big plays.

So, considering the health issue, I'd go with Gabe, especially in leagues that reward big plays.

Super sleeper: If Curry goes down, and Porter is gone, a nice guy to have on deep leagues for an occasional start could be Alvis Whitted. He's a smart vet, who is very fast, knows the system, and might be the best possession guy after Porter on the team. Every year we Raider fans think he's getting cut, and every year, he makes the team and contributes. Just a thought.

Very well said. I was reading the thread trying to decide if I wanted to mention Whitted, due to dynasty drafts coming up. A deep sleeper but a very valid one if Porter leaves town. I beleive Curry is by far a more polished, clutch WR then Gabriel. Curry makes the 3rd down route and catch when called on. Gabriel has the groan factor in the Coliseum. He drops the easy ones that could keep a drive going too often and brings out the audible groan from the stands. He reminds me of dropsy Dudley too often. Beats his man, gets open, then drops the important drive sustaining or long ball catch.

Curry can also stretch the field. Not as well as Gabriel, but plenty good enough, especially with Moss taking so much attention/speed to his side of the field. I'd take Curry late in a draft, ride him (if needed at WR3 or flex) until he gets injured. Unfortunately I don't think this is an IF statement but a WHEN statement. Then Gabriel would be a good pick up or if taken already, Whitted off waivers late in the season befoe he makes some big plays.

Great assessment IMO massraider.

 

[heropretend]

ok. i'm 25 and have ruptured my left achilles. several things play into achilles tears...the length of the person's toes, his leg structure, and some bad luck. in terms of pain, the tear itself feels like handful of nails shot up into the calf. cast time is long and basically what i'm saying is i find it amazing that a NFL player with 3 tears even wants to get back out there. the injury itself isn't lingering...but imagine you've got a thick rubber band that snaps. you melt the band and it's strong again after 6 months but then you stretch the band again. what happens? hopefully it doesn't snap. but maybe the welding is TOO strong and you snap the band in another place.

I would not be surprised to hear that Curry tears it again. This is something you can protect while sprinting up field, but while making cuts and plants and getting buried by the harrisons of the world...there is a strong possibility that when Curry goes full speed he'll tear it again.