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At NYC jury duty... AMA (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter El Floppo
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Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
First off, how are you doing?
massraider
Footballguy
Describe all the smells
El Floppo
Footballguy
Swell.
Have a filing set I need to get out for Orange County, CA... Not quite nyc dob, so I need some time and some learnin to get it done. But jury duty.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Pleather and despair
El Floppo
Footballguy
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
Does it smell like fart in the courthouse?
El Floppo
Footballguy
Asked and answered, counselor
El Floppo
Footballguy
Not bad.. about 70. 2/3 full, plenty of open chairs
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Who wins the Tyson V Paul fight?
El Floppo
Footballguy
Their lawyers
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Hi there. Where in the OC?
El Floppo
Footballguy
Emerald Bay
El Floppo
Footballguy
The latter
I assume if you don't get called today you are done. At least that is how it works where i am.
belljr
Footballguy
Its 2 days sometimes...... depending on type of court
El Floppo
Footballguy
I believe so. Unless I'm in the middle of voir dire or otherwise engaged in the court.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Yes
Senor Schmutzig
Footballguy
What is your most egregious plan for getting out of jury duty?
El Floppo
Footballguy
Play dead
El Floppo
Footballguy
Chemical X
Footballguy
do you believe that “juror” should become a job, like we have professional jurors instead of random idiot yokels?
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
If you answer "the latter" to every voir dire question I think you'll be safe.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
"the latter" would've been better here
El Floppo
Footballguy
I like the idea, but feel like it's a trap.
Chemical X
Footballguy
also and most important, how are you personally?
El Floppo
Footballguy
See post 4.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Again... I missed the opportunity to get on the Trump case by a single day- they filled the last spots on Friday.
That would've been pretty amazing, but no way I put my family through that as I know our info would leak and crazies from both sides would be up in our business.
That would've been pretty amazing, but no way I put my family through that as I know our info would leak and crazies from both sides would be up in our business.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I served on a civil case about 10 years ago... Family of a building super who had been taken as a hostage during a running shootout through the streets of NYC (in my old upper west side neighborhood) after a bank robbery.
It was about 2 weeks and pretty amazing. Testimony from the guy who literally wrote the book on hostage negotiations for NYC and many other large cities around the world, as well the guy who wrote the book on swat team engagement. And a bunch of scumbag former NYC police.
Learner that cops are trained- once the gun is drawn-it's life/death, and their gun is there for that purpose, not to wound or maim. They're trained to aim at largest mass so they are more likely to hit their target.. largest target is the torso. That's why they don't shoot somebody in the leg or arm to deescalate a situation.
It was about 2 weeks and pretty amazing. Testimony from the guy who literally wrote the book on hostage negotiations for NYC and many other large cities around the world, as well the guy who wrote the book on swat team engagement. And a bunch of scumbag former NYC police.
Learner that cops are trained- once the gun is drawn-it's life/death, and their gun is there for that purpose, not to wound or maim. They're trained to aim at largest mass so they are more likely to hit their target.. largest target is the torso. That's why they don't shoot somebody in the leg or arm to deescalate a situation.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Bring a laptop and get yer work done while sitting in an extra large, non-moving subway car.
I would love to become a professional juror. I enjoy jury duty as the process fascinates me. I wish I could volunteer.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I'm a dope, but absolutely should have done this.
A little tough to do though, working across many interrelated files and no remote access to the server... Dumb office. But still is a lot I could've done. But then I wouldn't be able to do an AMA
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
Everyone intelligent finds a way out of jury duty. Which I'm sure you will too. $40/day is pretty standard and laughable. Most people make that per hour. If they want bright people to be on juries (and that's a big if), they gotta pay $200-$300 per day. I doubt the defendent's lawyer ever wants smart people on a jury though. the dumber and lower rent the jury is, the more likely their guy gets off.
Also, where in NYC is this courthouse?
Also, where in NYC is this courthouse?
Our area has you on the hook for a week to be called into the court. So you have to call in on Sunday night to see if you have to show up Monday, You do that every night until you have to come in. Once you get called into the courthouse you only have to serve that day unless you get put on a panel for a specific trial where selection or trial goes to the next day.
There are many times you just call each night of the week and don't have to come in and then your obligation is over.
Being a govie, I get my usual salary if I am on a jury.
They do if the defendant is actually innocent.
El Floppo
Footballguy
We have very few responsibilities as US citizens...follow the laws, pay taxes, don't even have to Vote, but vote...jury duty is the most important of these IMO and the most interesting.
I also served in a murder trial here years ago. Pretty open and shut case given the testimony and evidence. As we're leaving the courtroom to go deliberate and finally able to discuss the case, the old woman I'd been sitting next asked me...
What do you think?
Oh.. pretty clear cut.
Yes! I agree! That boy couldn't have done it (it was clear that he DID do it).
Uh... Ok- why?
He looks just like a boy that lives down the hall from- the sweetest boy you'd ever meet, helps me with my groceries and around the apartment and always so kind. He couldn't possibly have murdered somebody!
I changed her mind by the time we had walked to the jury room.
That moment taught me the importance of serving. If I, or anybody I knew and cared about every got out on trial, I'd need somebody to cancel out that moron grandmother.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I strongly disagree, as I just wrote.
Selfish people will get out of it... But it's one of our only civic duties that really matter. Do your duty.
I also served on a murder trial. It was 3 months but really cut and dried about the guy being guilty. The difficult part (and why it took so long to present everything) was that the person didn't die from the beating they took. They actually survived that and was in the hospital for a week before dying of a pulmonary embolism brought on from the beating and subsequent hospital stay. Because of that the prosecutor had to present a lot of medical testimony and legal clarifications on how the law works with respect to causation.
There were also a lot of other charges included (because more than just the beating took place) so it took us awhile to work through each of those charges. We ended up finding the defendant guilty of all but one charge. That charge had to do with intent and two holdouts could agree that they "intended" to kill the victim because the victim survived the beating and died later. I tried to explain that when you choke someone out three times to the point of them going unconscious you are trying to kill them because it's not like you can control your strangling to the point of just making them pass out. The intent was there even if it didn't do the job. But the two holdouts couldn't ger passed that part. Very fascinating process though.
