Attention IDP Mod: IDP team Management Format (1 Viewer)

[rupricht]

ATT: Board moderators.

It makes no sense having only a single thread to post all team management related defensive questions. Firstly it limits the amount of quality answers likely to be received & for those looking for some specific information searching becomes far more difficult.

It is much easier for to have a separate thread for each question so that answers are not jumbled in a thread of multiple questions. In this way if you see a questions relavent to your particular situation will be easy to find by subject line and you can be sure the answers within the thread will be specific to that particular question only.

So questions relating to defensive players/team management should allowed to be posted in the IDP forum or a separate forum should be created. I hope there are others who will chime in.

 

[mtffl2]

i agree.... i like the idea of making a different room, but it definitly should be sectioned by the question

if not, that is going to end up being a very, very long thread....

 

[stevegamer]

Perhaps we can separate the WDIS and the add/drop stuff. Frankly if you provide thought on the guys you have and the FA's that are out there, there can be discussion, and that's good.

 

[Keg]

well you could find a very creative way to word the post so that it isnt just a WDIS thread so that it garners discussion and point of views and adds something to the overall forum and its participants and not just something for the poster

 

[The_Hunchback]

I would say until now that the IDP area hasn't needed more than the room we have on the message board. I still don't think it is busy enough to warrant a seperate thread for the WDIS stuff but if it keeps up it probably will. It won't make much sense to just start a new area for WDIS based on just this one week.

I'm not a mod/admin or anything, just calling it like I see it.

 

[go corn]

Yes, please allow independent questions their own thread and, therefore, their own answers. It is so much easier to navigate and understand, rather than having to sift through multiple other posts.

Let's go back to original format, please.

Cheers!

 

[Chaos Commish]

FBGs has an excellent forum-- the Assistant Coach Forum for individual threads. This forum is about discussing IDPs, strategy, players, news, etc. It is the IDP version of the Shark Pool, not the IDP version of the ACF. If the board is polluted with dozens, literally hundreds, of "manage my team" threads, you are going to drive the veteran IDP posters away. The site may be a better place for those of you who fear making your own decisions, doing your own research, reading up on your own situations, but in the big picture it would be a setback for the IDP community to turn this board, the best free IDP information on the net, into a help forum.

This is my opinion. I know some on staff agree with me. I pushed for the individual thread. You guys can mutiny and probably turn this place into AC IDP. That would be a shame.

 

[The_Hunchback]

If the board is polluted with dozens, literally hundreds, of "manage my team" threads, you are going to drive the veteran IDP posters away.

Ugh, that would drive me away instantly.

 

[lord_helmet]

FBGs has an excellent forum-- the Assistant Coach Forum for individual threads. This forum is about discussing IDPs, strategy, players, news, etc. It is the IDP version of the Shark Pool, not the IDP version of the ACF. If the board is polluted with dozens, literally hundreds, of "manage my team" threads, you are going to drive the veteran IDP posters away. The site may be a better place for those of you who fear making your own decisions, doing your own research, reading up on your own situations, but in the big picture it would be a setback for the IDP community to turn this board, the best free IDP information on the net, into a help forum.This is my opinion. I know some on staff agree with me. I pushed for the individual thread. You guys can mutiny and probably turn this place into AC IDP. That would be a shame.

I live and die by my own WDIS decisions, FF is a great deal more fun that way. Sometimes participating in a certain thread can be for selfish purposes, but thats another matter I thinkOn a side note: If my spelling and sentencing are sometimes off, please don't hold it against me as I am Danish and still not perfect in the English language. Its a work in progress thommm.... Danish

 

[rupricht]

FBGs has an excellent forum-- the Assistant Coach Forum for individual threads. This forum is about discussing IDPs, strategy, players, news, etc. It is the IDP version of the Shark Pool, not the IDP version of the ACF. If the board is polluted with dozens, literally hundreds, of "manage my team" threads, you are going to drive the veteran IDP posters away. The site may be a better place for those of you who fear making your own decisions, doing your own research, reading up on your own situations, but in the big picture it would be a setback for the IDP community to turn this board, the best free IDP information on the net, into a help forum.This is my opinion. I know some on staff agree with me. I pushed for the individual thread. You guys can mutiny and probably turn this place into AC IDP. That would be a shame.

I respectfully disagree. In the same way as you suggest posters use the assistant coach forum for IDP management questions it can be similarly argued that the Shark Pool should include IDP related strategy, news etc posts. In my opinion if you have a separate IDP forum this should include all IDP related topics including team management. But incorporating all team management questions in a single thread simply does not work for reasons outlined in my initial posting.I do not think the IDP forum sees enough traffic to warrant a separate IDP space for team management. What creates problems are users who repeat postings with the same question. So if this is curtailed by the mods or self policing the forum should be able to accommodate all postings.

 

[rupricht]

As it is, 50%+ of the current posting on this main IDP forum first page relates to individual fanatsy team issues, lineups etc. Yet the posting on the bottom of the page is 2 days old. The coaches corner thread only comprises a few questions so this does not add significantly to the overall total....perhaps an extra 6-7 threads. This should prove that this forum can adequately handle the traffic.

 

[Keg]

As it is, 50%+ of the current posting on this main IDP forum first page relates to individual fanatsy team issues, lineups etc. Yet the posting on the bottom of the page is 2 days old. The coaches corner thread only comprises a few questions so this does not add significantly to the overall total....perhaps an extra 6-7 threads. This should prove that this forum can adequately handle the traffic.

fwiw i havent been spending as much time here as I did this past spring just because its to cluttered with manage my team stuff rather then the normal info/debates

 

[msommer]

On a side note: If my spelling and sentencing are sometimes off, please don't hold it against me as I am Danish and still not perfect in the English language.

Danish - well whadda you know - me tooHvor bor du?

 

[lions327]

FBGs has an excellent forum-- the Assistant Coach Forum for individual threads. This forum is about discussing IDPs, strategy, players, news, etc. It is the IDP version of the Shark Pool, not the IDP version of the ACF. If the board is polluted with dozens, literally hundreds, of "manage my team" threads, you are going to drive the veteran IDP posters away. The site may be a better place for those of you who fear making your own decisions, doing your own research, reading up on your own situations, but in the big picture it would be a setback for the IDP community to turn this board, the best free IDP information on the net, into a help forum.This is my opinion. I know some on staff agree with me. I pushed for the individual thread. You guys can mutiny and probably turn this place into AC IDP. That would be a shame.

 

[lord_helmet]

On a side note: If my spelling and sentencing are sometimes off, please don't hold it against me as I am Danish and still not perfect in the English language.

Danish - well whadda you know - me tooHvor bor du?

København! Og dig ?

 

[Tick]

I'm on Chaos_Commish's side on this one.

Maybe there could be three pinned ACF threads here - DL, DB, and LB.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I'm on Chaos_Commish's side on this one.Maybe there could be three pinned ACF threads here - DL, DB, and LB.

Thanks Tick. I'm not insensitive to the issue for those who disagree with me, even if I choose some insensitive words to describe them. I would also understand if JoeDaveJohn decided the Ruprichts of the world were more important to FBGs than the Tick's and CCs. They already have us regardless of how this board operates. Does this decision cost them noobs? I don't think so, but they may read it differently. The truth is there is no better free resource for IDP info regardless of how they handle "help me" posts. So, the noobs are stuck with the decision and really have nowhere else to go, just as we'd be stuck with this place turned into a help forum. I also agree there may be a better set up than just one thread, but most questions seem to be multiple position queries for one team (so breakdown by position would have issues). I think the Coaches Corner, if it stays, will get better as people get used to the format. I know the 10 pager in the AC Forum has a lot of fans and the three who run that thread do a terrific job. With Jene participating on his return, the thread here will be better than the one there, imo.

 

[rupricht]

Chaos Commish, this should not be an issue of "noobs" verse you established veteran posters. I was simply pointing out the difficulty of searching for relevant info in a thread of jumbled questions & answers. The single thread is really an inadequate way of dealing with team management questions for those asking the questions as well as those who might benefit from reading the replies.

If team management questions are not allowed in the general IDP forum then it would be best to eliminate the single thread altogether and make sure that all these questions are posted in the assistant coach forum. The problem with this is that IDP related issues might get lost in the sea of non IDP management questions...although the search function will still work better than it would for a single long thread.

Another idea would be to create a consensus weekly ranking thread of the top 50 IDP players. Posters could update this thread throughout the week depending on injuries, matchups and other variables. This might eliminate tons of needless WDIS postings which comprise the bulk of team management questions. So a poster who is asking if Ray Lewis should be started ahead of Mike Peterson can take a look at the ranking list instead of posting a separate thread.

Just my opinion!

 

[Chaos Commish]

Chaos Commish, this should not be an issue of "noobs" verse you established veteran posters. I was simply pointing out the difficulty of searching for relevant info in a thread of jumbled questions & answers. The single thread is really an inadequate way of dealing with team management questions for those asking the questions as well as those who might benefit from reading the replies.

If team management questions are not allowed in the general IDP forum then it would be best to eliminate the single thread altogether and make sure that all these questions are posted in the assistant coach forum. The problem with this is that IDP related issues might get lost in the sea of non IDP management questions...although the search function will still work better than it would for a single long thread.

Another idea would be to create a consensus weekly ranking thread of the top 50 IDP players. Posters could update this thread throughout the week depending on injuries, matchups and other variables. This might eliminate tons of needless WDIS postings which comprise the bulk of team management questions. So a poster who is asking if Ray Lewis should be started ahead of Mike Peterson can take a look at the ranking list instead of posting a separate thread.

Just my opinion!

I appreciate your opinion despite disagreeing with it.If you missed it, this thread was a catalyst for change. Change that had been contemplated for quite awhile, btw.

ACF Coaches Corner

You should give that thread a look. 11 pages of happy customers. It does work. It is proven. I think you're being a little selfish wanting this place to be a help board for IDPs while being critical of an attempt to satisfy different perspectives. I think it's telling your sixth post here was directed at directing the mods. There have been dozens of threads and hundreds of posts at FBGs over the years on the topic of "help" topics. They are, in general, a nuisance to those seeking to share or gather information for their own teams.

If you want consensus rankings, you really really really should subscribe. For fitty cents a week you're good to go. Weekly cheatsheets are a big reason why so many do subscribe. To post them, even different ones compiled by a non-staffer, while not against the rules, places free information at odds and in competition with subscriber information. Someone could do it. I wouldn't out of respect for the amount of work and effort that goes into weekly rankings. You are asking for someone to share a tonnage of acquired information and work for free. If this site was 100% free, that would be cool. But it isn't, and I think the idea is uncool. Example of being protective of subscriber info. Another solid post on the topic from the Shark Pool.

Rupricht, this is a great site for fantasy info. Imo, this site is years ahead of it's closest competitor and pulling further away every season. Subscribe. You won't regret it.

You're right, this shouldn't be about noobs and vets. You're not necessarily right stating relevant info is easier to find in separate threads. Help me threads are relevant to very few fish in a pool of thousands. It is the lack of relevant info in 20 some odd threads, always on page one, for several days in a row, here in my favorite forum that turned me into an activist.

If you have the ability to turn a roster specific topic into something relevant for the community at large, by all means do so. The last link above addresses that ability. If you simply want to know wdis between a, b, or c in scoring system x, be courteous enough to ask that in the discussion specifically designed to handle it.

edit to fix last link

 

[Jene Bramel]

Patrons of our fine forum. Here's the deal.

This forum is easily the best on the net. Easily. As Shawn and Rudnicki (and others) will attest, and as was mentioned in the other thread, the traffic in this forum has grown exponentially here over the past 12 months. And with good reason. The discussion and knowledge around here is second to none.

The purpose of this forum is to discuss IDP strategies, team and player issues, injuries, and other IDP topics -- a branch of the Shark Poll if you will. The staff had made exceptions for those seeking advice in the past because it was still a small forum and the answers you'll get from many in the AC Forum can be, shall we say, shady from posters who don't really know IDP at all.

Now, with the size of the Forum as-is and the great influx of new IDPers (which we're all excited about), the starting lineup threads and waiver advice threads have reached a critical mass. In all honesty, we likely should bump all advice threads to the AC Forum -- that's the sole purpose of that part of our community.

The separate thread in this Forum is a compromise. It allows the folks who want advice a place in this forum to direct their questions where experienced IDPers will see them and respond to them. And it allows the main part of this forum to remain uncluttered with advice posts. Despite the hardline they take on the thread separation issue the vets are always active in these threads.

As CC noted, this thread will work if used appropriately by those who come down on both sides of the argument. First, those with questions need to post them in the AC thread in this Forum. The mods are not going to have time to merge and move every question. Second, it would be appreciated by all if the experienced IDPers have to take some interest in the thread. We were all newbies and unsure at one time or the other.

From a staff viewpoint, it does take extra effort for many of us to cruise the AC Forum and the IDP Forum answering questions we've already answered in our weekly content. Many of us do it anyway for any number of reasons -- we like the discussion, we remember what it was like to not know what an undertackle or the defensive strong side was, or because it's just good business.

We're not going to move the threads to the AC Forum this season. And it's pretty unlikely that advice posts outside of the IDP Coaches Corner are going to get much traffic at all with this setup. Also, IMO, it doesn't make much sense to separate advice requests by position. Many of the advice requests span multiple positions -- fragmenting the questions further will result in fewer and poorer responses.

The fact that the thread is likely to get long and unwieldy is a reminder of how popular this place is and just how much advice is given each week. To combat that, I'll dump the old thread into the main forum each week and open a new one. Key strategy posts that happen spontaneously will get picked up in the weekly digest and still be searchable. It should also make it easier for those with a very similar question to flip through the new thread to see if their question has already been addressed in some form.

We'll continue to listen to requests and suggestions. For now, we think this method of organizing the forum is best.

Newbies -- stick with it, it will work.

Vets -- get in there and coach up the newbies.

Rah, rah, rah and kumbaya.

Thanks.

JB

Also, a quick personal FYI, for anyone who cares...

Ugh. To make a long story short, I'm in Seattle visiting family and have had tremendous amounts of fun securing internet access. Apologies to CC, who expected me to help get the Coaches Corner thread off the ground and to all who may have been looking for me. I'm around now, but I'll be around a lot less often until the end of the week when we get back to our usual routine.

 

[rupricht]

JB, That's a good idea....creating a new thread each week. That should make the thread easier to navigate.