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These were in the Audible Auction thread, thought they might have gotten missed by some people who would want them. Of course, always open for other tips.

For those whom have never been in an auction league before, here's some tips from what I've learned in running auction leagues for the past six years:

The first 1-2 players announced are probably going to go below the market values, like the podcast said. That certainly doesn't mean you have to go after them.
The next 75-80% of the draft is going to be the "meat" of the draft. There is going to be a bidding frenzy on players early on in the "meat" section. Many will go for more than their worth.
Don't ever, ever announce a player you're interested in during the "meat" period. The idea being that the later the player is announced, the less competition there's going to be for that player. People will be eying their budgets. Instead, announce players that other people should be interested in, especially if it's a high-dollar player. This takes up money and a roster spot on somebody's team. Ben Rothlesburger is a great name to throw out. He's an awful QB1, but the name recognition will get QB1 money spent on him. Make a list of players that you don't want to throw out.
Stud running backs and quarter backs will be overpriced. Last year AP went for 42% of a total budget. I got Brandon Jacobs for 10%. Even if AP went for 35%, he's not 3.5 times the scorer that Jacobs is. My advice is to bypass the top 2-3 players at RB and QB, and build a solid top to bottom team, that's not dependent on one or two monster players. How many owners groaned when Brady went down after he was won at auction for about 25% of the cap?
WR are undervalued, at least they are in my league, where yardage accounts for about 75% of the scoring. Andre Johnson was the ninth overall scorer in my league last year, but went for less than many RB2. Boldin went for 4% of the cap in a bargain-basement gem (yay me).
Spend most of your money on starters. I try to spend 85-90% on starters. These are the people you are going to have in your lineup every week except one. Better have one mediocre player filling in for a solid player once, than have two mediocre players each week.
 
The idea being that the later the player is announced, the less competition there's going to be for that player.
This is not universally true. If it's the last player of his caliber at his position, he may go for more than expected, as teams may have been saving for him, or might feel desperate if they don't get him.
 
The idea being that the later the player is announced, the less competition there's going to be for that player.
This is not universally true. If it's the last player of his caliber at his position, he may go for more than expected, as teams may have been saving for him, or might feel desperate if they don't get him.
Sure, but I was speaking in generalities. My example of Boldin going for 4% of the cap is a prime example of that generality. He was considered a strong WR2 in our league last year, but somehow, nobody noticed that he hadn't been announced until very late. If he had been announced earlier in the draft, he probably would have gone for 10-12%.
 
How do you determine what percentage to spend on each position?

In the league I am in, which is my first year and first time in an auction, has the following rules:

Roster Positions: QB, QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, WR/RB, K, DEF, DEF, BN,

BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

Stat Categories: Completions (.25)

Incomplete Passes (-.25)

Passing Yards (35 yards per point)

Passing Touchdowns (6)

Interceptions (-2)

Rushing Yards (15 yards per point)

Rushing Touchdowns (6)

Receptions (.25)

Reception Yards (15 yards per point)

Reception Touchdowns (6)

Return Yards (100 yards per point)

Return Touchdowns (6)

2-Point Conversions (2)

Fumbles Lost (-2)

It appears obvious to me that QB is the most important position, but trying to figure out how much to spend on each position is difficult to me.

Any help will be appreciated.

 
Is it only you that is new to the league/auction or is the entire league new?
Good question. If the league is new, then nobody is going to know the values. It's going to be a complete guess, especially since your setup is is so unorthodox. If you are new to an already running league, I would ask the commish for the auction values from last year. Explain that you want to enter the league closer to being on a level playing field. To be honest, I have no idea what value to put on players for your league.
 
Is it only you that is new to the league/auction or is the entire league new?
I am the only new person. This a keeper league, but the guy who quit, left me on Ray Rice. There are a ton of players being kept that are solid players. I am just curious what the standard is for purchasing players at each position.Thanks
 
Is it only you that is new to the league/auction or is the entire league new?
I am the only new person. This a keeper league, but the guy who quit, left me on Ray Rice. There are a ton of players being kept that are solid players. I am just curious what the standard is for purchasing players at each position.Thanks
The dude's keeper was Ray Rice? No wonder he quit. :2cents:

In my league, here's how the dollar values generally breaks down:

QB 1-5: 20-25+% of the cap

QB 6-10: 10-20%

QB 11-: <10%

RB 1-5: 35-40+% of the cap

RB 6-10: 25-35%

RB 11-: gradually dropping off, but varying wildly.

WR 1-5: 15-25+% of the cap

WR 6-10: 10-15%

WR 11-20: 5-10%

WR 20- : 1-5%

Your league is going to be much different. Much different. I might consider making the QB a little more in line with the RB, but that's just my take. I think you should ask if YOU could decide what keeper is carried over, and almost demand knowing what the auction values were from last year. Everyone else would have that information, you'd be the only blind one in the group.

 
Is it only you that is new to the league/auction or is the entire league new?
Good question. If the league is new, then nobody is going to know the values. It's going to be a complete guess, especially since your setup is is so unorthodox. If you are new to an already running league, I would ask the commish for the auction values from last year. Explain that you want to enter the league closer to being on a level playing field. To be honest, I have no idea what value to put on players for your league.
Exactly
 
Your league is VASTLY different than my league.

We have 13 roster spots and you can fill them any way you would like as long as you can field a starting line-up.

1 QB

2 RB

3 WR

1 K

I usually use 30% of my cap on one solid RB.

I will use somewhere around 8-10% for my RB2

The starting WR's will garner some 30% of cap space

My QB is usually about 5-15% depending on year and value at any given time.

I spread the rest out to reserves.

Of course, if I see value in a position, these numbers will vary.

 
The idea being that the later the player is announced, the less competition there's going to be for that player.
This is not universally true. If it's the last player of his caliber at his position, he may go for more than expected, as teams may have been saving for him, or might feel desperate if they don't get him.
This is 100% correct... if your eyeballing say Colston and you've been waiting for the other WRs to come off the board (say up to WR15 or so) and if Colston is the last WR in the 7 - 16 range; there will be a bid war because hes the last option at WR1.What you need to do is wait until your player is 1 of the last 3 in that tier. Then you could possible get him for a little cheaper. But once that player is one of the last 2 in a tier... look out.

 
These were in the Audible Auction thread, thought they might have gotten missed by some people who would want them. Of course, always open for other tips.

For those whom have never been in an auction league before, here's some tips from what I've learned in running auction leagues for the past six years:

The first 1-2 players announced are probably going to go below the market values, like the podcast said. That certainly doesn't mean you have to go after them.I find this to be true, especially if your drafting w/ less experience crowd. At your 1st nomination, toss out a Portis or Boldin and you could most likely get them at a deal.

The next 75-80% of the draft is going to be the "meat" of the draft. There is going to be a bidding frenzy on players early on in the "meat" section. Many will go for more than their worth.Really not much to say here, of course the next 80% of the draft is going to be the meat of it.

Don't ever, ever announce a player you're interested in during the "meat" period. The idea being that the later the player is announced, the less competition there's going to be for that player. People will be eying their budgets. Instead, announce players that other people should be interested in, especially if it's a high-dollar player. This takes up money and a roster spot on somebody's team. Ben Rothlesburger is a great name to throw out. He's an awful QB1, but the name recognition will get QB1 money spent on him. Make a list of players that you don't want to throw out.This has been discussed in other parts of the thread, there are good times an bad times to nominate players you like. You'll need to learn this.

Stud running backs and quarter backs will be overpriced. Last year AP went for 42% of a total budget. I got Brandon Jacobs for 10%. Even if AP went for 35%, he's not 3.5 times the scorer that Jacobs is. My advice is to bypass the top 2-3 players at RB and QB, and build a solid top to bottom team, that's not dependent on one or two monster players. How many owners groaned when Brady went down after he was won at auction for about 25% of the cap?Very true, there will always be people who have no problem spending about half their load on 1 player, or even spend 75% on a couple of highly rated players and then load up on scrubs. Saving your money is like having multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks.

WR are undervalued, at least they are in my league, where yardage accounts for about 75% of the scoring. Andre Johnson was the ninth overall scorer in my league last year, but went for less than many RB2. Boldin went for 4% of the cap in a bargain-basement gem (yay me).

wouldn't say undervaled, but RBs do usually go for a little more.

Spend most of your money on starters. I try to spend 85-90% on starters. These are the people you are going to have in your lineup every week except one. Better have one mediocre player filling in for a solid player once, than have two mediocre players each week.This is up to the manager... I've seen it work both ways, especially if its a keeper league or dynasty.
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The idea being that the later the player is announced, the less competition there's going to be for that player.
This is not universally true. If it's the last player of his caliber at his position, he may go for more than expected, as teams may have been saving for him, or might feel desperate if they don't get him.
This is 100% correct... if your eyeballing say Colston and you've been waiting for the other WRs to come off the board (say up to WR15 or so) and if Colston is the last WR in the 7 - 16 range; there will be a bid war because hes the last option at WR1.What you need to do is wait until your player is 1 of the last 3 in that tier. Then you could possible get him for a little cheaper. But once that player is one of the last 2 in a tier... look out.
You speak the truth! And it happens EVERY year at both WR and RB positions! When you get into this bidding war, all bets are off and someone will overpay dearly.Keys to think about:

Money Management (Both your teams and all other owners)

Positions Needed (Both your teams and all other owners)

Players left at key tiered slots

Who needs a handcuff when it's your turn to bring up a player...money money money

 
The idea being that the later the player is announced, the less competition there's going to be for that player.
This is not universally true. If it's the last player of his caliber at his position, he may go for more than expected, as teams may have been saving for him, or might feel desperate if they don't get him.
This is 100% correct... if your eyeballing say Colston and you've been waiting for the other WRs to come off the board (say up to WR15 or so) and if Colston is the last WR in the 7 - 16 range; there will be a bid war because hes the last option at WR1.What you need to do is wait until your player is 1 of the last 3 in that tier. Then you could possible get him for a little cheaper. But once that player is one of the last 2 in a tier... look out.
You are correct. What I was trying to say is that if Colston is the third WR auctioned, chances are he's going to go for much more than if he's the 12th WR auctioned. A player has the possibility of slipping, simply because he's been overlooked, therefore goes for less money. If you're interested in Colston, and lesser WR are starting to come off the board, and looks like people simply overlooked him, you don't want to be the guy that announces him until you're sure that most of the competition is gone.
 
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