Auction league must have players (1 Viewer)

[GunslingerEnder]

Ok, curious to see who people are willing to pay a premium to get.

Standard ppr

 

[GunslingerEnder]

No one?

Id pay whatever it takes for Calvin Johnson and Dez Bryant.

 

[mental]

"Pay a premium"... relative to what?

If you're paying $1 more than anyone else for a player in an auction, isn't it because you think they're still a bargain at that price? What player would you pay more than he's worth?

 

[GridironMenace]

If you're paying $1 more than anyone else for a player in an auction, isn't it because you think they're still a bargain at that price?

Not necessarily. It just means that you were willing to go $1 more than everyone else (bargain or not).

What player would you pay more than he's worth?

It happens quite often since timing of when a player is called out, dictates value of said player almost moreso than actual performance of player. You may be willing to bow out of the bidding on Frank Gore @ $30 (for example) because you know that there are still 5 other HB's still to be called out. Then, when the last starting HB gets called out (Benson for example), you may be willing to pay $32 for him. Supply and demand is a wonderful thing in an auction draft.

 

[GridironMenace]

But to answer the OP's question, there is no one I have to have in an auction draft. If you go into the draft saying that you will pay any amount to have 'X' player, you are going to be in a world of hurt and your team probably won't be very good. You have to be able to shift gears on the fly and be willing to let a guy, that you love, go once his dollar value gets past a specific threshold.

 

[GunslingerEnder]

Iok. Lets start over here. What I am interested in is finding out who you would be targeting in an auction. Obviously I am not going to blow my whole payroll on one player. I'm more curious to see who you would be willing to have as your highest paid player as he is that good that he will make a huge difference each week. Like foster or healthy gates last year.

 

[jamil]

dynasty? mcfadden.

i got AD at about the same price of Foster which I'm pretty happy with. AD is just entering his prime, I think people forget that because he has been so dominant.

 

[Easy Money]

I like to get two top ten wr on my draft board. Spending around 40 each with a 200 total auction salary.

Last year I had to have roddy white, this year probably going to be nicks or fitz which ever one I can get 40 to 45. Then one more maybe wallace or jennings.

 

[sweetness34]

Rodgers. Maybe Romo (QB can flex.)

Thinking about Rice.

CJ or Fitz.

I understand the value argument and not going into the auction targeting certain players. But IMO, isn't that the best thing about auctions - the ability to get 2-3 of the players you covet, that you'd never be able to get in a regular draft?

 

[Pip's Invitation]

You're doing it wrong. Going into an auction with the idea that you "must have" someone is a recipe for disaster. Do your valuations and take what the auction gives you.

 

[sweetness34]

You're doing it wrong. Going into an auction with the idea that you "must have" someone is a recipe for disaster. Do your valuations and take what the auction gives you.

Agreed, but to me, "must have" does not mean at any or all cost. (That's my own interpretation.) Obviously everything is "within reason." I'm not spending $100 on ANY player. We're getting hung up on sematics, when all the OP is really wanting is IF things break right for you within the flow of the auction - who are the guys you'd "really like" to acquire at fair value or slightly above. Not something like I want ADP for $22 (200 cap) or conversely, paying $88 for ADP. Both are ridiculous. Sorry, didn't mean for the tone of this post to be negative. I love auction discussion...I wish there was more on this board.

 

[abohnhoff]

I would strongly suggest you target 2 or 3 players per position instead of just one. If one other person feels the same way you do, you could greatly overspend for someone.

Players im targeting for a good auction value this year:

QB: Brees, Romo, Cutler

RB: Charles, Blount, rookies

WR: Miles Austin, Vincent and DeSean Jackson

 

[buck naked]

You're doing it wrong. Going into an auction with the idea that you "must have" someone is a recipe for disaster. Do your valuations and take what the auction gives you.

No, he's not. You say it as a certainty. There is nothing wrong about wanting and buying a certain player, per se. If you firmly believe that _____ (pick a guy) will vastly outperform his projections, then you buy him. Period. At some point it is unwise to overpay, but that is still a subjective point. Projections and the standard "price" for players are wrong in the preseason alot.

 

[FantasyTrader]

But IMO, isn't that the best thing about auctions - the ability to get 2-3 of the players you covet, that you'd never be able to get in a regular draft?

No. The best thing about auctions is that your opponents have the opportunity to screw up on EVERY player. That's where the real value of auctions comes in. With a 12-team serpentine draft, your opponents only have the opportunity to screw up their pick. So whoever said you just need to set your values relative to your league norms and let the draft come to you is correct. But I understand the spirit which Gunslinger started this thread with so I'll play along. I'd love to get Romo (12.5% budget), Schaub (6.5% budget), Stafford (4.5% budget), Ray Rice (17.5% budget), McFadden (14.5% budget), Shonn Greene (10% budget), CJ Spiller (4% budget), Beanie Wells (3.5% budget) Brandon Jacobs (1.5% budget), Vincent Jackson (11% budget), Britt (6% budget), Maclin (10.5% budget), Collie (7.5% budget), Mike Thomas (3.5% budget), Jimmy Graham and Owen Daniels (7.5% total budget).If I can get a solid blend of the above at or around average values I'll be smiling like a Cheshire cat.

 

[Johnny Rock]

NON-PPR

Rivers

Big Ben

Stafford

AD

Charles

McFadden

Ingram

MWilliams TB

Dez Bryant

Harvin

Collie

Steve Johnson

Julio Jones

 

[GregR]

Iok. Lets start over here. What I am interested in is finding out who you would be targeting in an auction. Obviously I am not going to blow my whole payroll on one player. I'm more curious to see who you would be willing to have as your highest paid player as he is that good that he will make a huge difference each week. Like foster or healthy gates last year.

The problem you're hitting in this thread is that there are two ways people look at auctions. And the same words mean different things to the two groups. You seem to be more in a group who use a consensus or average price as their point of reference. When someone from this group says "overpay", they likely mean "paid more than the consensus" which is not necessarily more than they think the player is worth. When they ask who is a must have player, they mean "which players do you think are worth more than the consensus price". If I miss-characterized you or your statements, apologies and please correct me.But a lot of the people on this board, especially the old vets, don't care about the consensus price. They work off what they think the player is worth. They start with projections for the player that express THEIR beliefs, and convert those into prices. To this group, when you "overpay" for a player, you spent more than YOU thought he was worth. Pip is a user who is expressing their viewpoint.The first group are more likely to look at consensus prices and come up with a list of players they expect are worth more than consensus, and target those players. They are less likely to actually come up with a hard number for just how much said player is worth, or if they do it tends to come from the gut.The second group are willing to bid on every player while they cost less than the price they think they are worth. They are more likely to say that focusing on players you think WILL be a good value can cause you to miss players who actually ARE good values. So they consider every player a potential good bargain until the moment he isn't, and then drop out of the bidding. So when someone asks them who is a must have player, they say there is no such thing and you're making a mistake if you look at it that way.While some of it is just semantics, there are benefits to being in the second group, which is why I said the old vets tend to be in that group. You are less likely to miss a good value since you consider every player. You have a list of prices that more accurately reflect what you think every player in the pool is worth. And those prices, if you calculate them right, are internally consistent. That is, the difference in value between two RBs who your prices have as $5 apart is the same as the difference in value between two QBs, two WRs, and two TEs who are also $5 apart. A $10 WR and a $20 QB are as valuable to your team as a $20 WR and a $10 QB. People with a set of prices like the second group have can see that they just won a player for $7 less than he is worth, and can then better visualize how that money can be spent on the rest of their roster to improve it since they have a price for every single player that reflects their beliefs.Maurile Tremblay wrote a great article about how to calculate auction prices from a set of projections. And the method is build into Draft Dominator.

 

[FantasyTrader]

 

[GunslingerEnder]

Glad this thread got on track. I understand both points but assuming you can get the guy at a price you are comfortable.with who are the guys you think will be the major.reasons you are competing for.a championship.