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Austin Collie To Miss Several Games (1 Viewer)
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HustleBlood
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Yes.
HustleBlood
Footballguy
Garcon ahead of Wayne...... COME ON MANFor fantasy purposes, yes. I think Garcon is being targeted for more 20+ yard catches as Wayne is being targeted for 10-15 yards.Good input btw, how would you rank them?Garcon ahead of Wayne...... COME ON MAN
CrossEyed
Footballguy
How would ppr affect the rankings?For fantasy purposes, yes. I think Garcon is being targeted for more 20+ yard catches as Wayne is being targeted for 10-15 yards.Good input btw, how would you rank them?
Adam Schefter is reporting Collie had hand surgery this morning and is out several weeks.
Adam_Schefter
1. Filed to ESPN: Colts wide receiver Austin Collie underwent hand surgery this week that is expected to sideline him a few weeks. less than 10 seconds ago via ÜberTwitter
Adam_Schefter
1. Filed to ESPN: Colts wide receiver Austin Collie underwent hand surgery this week that is expected to sideline him a few weeks. less than 10 seconds ago via ÜberTwitter
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I think they will both get 5-8ish catches each and around 10 targets each. Clark was getting around 6-10 targets a game. I think probably around 2-3 of those will go to Tamme. The remainder will be spread around.I believe Garcon will get more yardage.How would ppr affect the rankings?For fantasy purposes, yes. I think Garcon is being targeted for more 20+ yard catches as Wayne is being targeted for 10-15 yards.Good input btw, how would you rank them?
Sack-Religious
Footballguy
I think Mr. Evan Silva will be listened to very carefully when he reports further Colts injuries in the future.
Who's the better play now, though? White or Gonzalez?
White seems to be healthiest, but Gonzalez has the pedigree and a greater body of work, and production, with Manning.
Who's the better play now, though? White or Gonzalez?
White seems to be healthiest, but Gonzalez has the pedigree and a greater body of work, and production, with Manning.
CA_7
Footballguy
I remember how much we got strung along last year about Gonzo's return....no thanks I am grabbing White
Yeah, but in FF you have to swing for the fences. Sure you could strike out miserably with Gonzalez, but you could also hit a grand slam. Not so much with White.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
How you know that about White?
Just saying I'd rather go with a former first rounder that has prior rapport with Peyton (when he was healthy) over somebody I've never heard of and is an undrafted rookie.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Id think White's chances to break out with Manning are jsut as good as a WR that hasnt played football in over 1.5 years. Just cause you never herd of him doesnt mean he cant be productive in NFL, sometimes its more about opportunity than talent. White was an excellent WR in the big10 last year and made the practice squad in camp. Personally he is who I would be buying over Agonzo right now
Just saying I'd rather go with a former first rounder that has prior rapport with Peyton (when he was healthy) over somebody I've never heard of and is an undrafted rookie.
Id think White's chances to break out with Manning are jsut as good as a WR that hasnt played football in over 1.5 years. Just cause you never herd of him doesnt mean he cant be productive in NFL, sometimes its more about opportunity than talent.
White was an excellent WR in the big10 last year and made the practice squad in camp. Personally he is who I would be buying over Agonzo right now
Isn't White the guy that caught a big TD reception from Manning earlier in the year to seal a game? And when asked about that in post-game Manning said that he had a really good rapport with White because they practiced a lot together in pre-season to get on the same page. And, that in the play before the TD throw White came up to him in the huddle telling Manning that his defender wasnt guarding him well so Manning should throw him the ball (whicih turned out being the game winning TD)?
If it's the same guy, it sure seems to me that White already has a rapport with Manning...
Id think White's chances to break out with Manning are jsut as good as a WR that hasnt played football in over 1.5 years. Just cause you never herd of him doesnt mean he cant be productive in NFL, sometimes its more about opportunity than talent.
White was an excellent WR in the big10 last year and made the practice squad in camp. Personally he is who I would be buying over Agonzo right now
Isn't White the guy that caught a big TD reception from Manning earlier in the year to seal a game? And when asked about that in post-game Manning said that he had a really good rapport with White because they practiced a lot together in pre-season to get on the same page. And, that in the play before the TD throw White came up to him in the huddle telling Manning that his defender wasnt guarding him well so Manning should throw him the ball (whicih turned out being the game winning TD)?
If it's the same guy, it sure seems to me that White already has a rapport with Manning...
tdhartis
Footballguy
FWIW Blair White has been reported to have a neck injury. And he is definitely talented, and was predicted as a top 20 WR coming into the draft and most expected him to be drafted. He is a smart player with great hands, but not that physically gifted. With Clark out for a substaincial period and Collie out for at least the week following the bye and likely later, my pickup is personally Gonzales. When he was healthy he was a good player, and he is still a first round pick talent that would start over White if he can keep himself on the field. Nothing against White, but Gonzo is a better lottery ticket/home run threat.
G-Money
Footballguy
This............good/solid info, well ahead of other sources.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
"Isn't White the guy that caught a big TD reception from Manning earlier in the year to seal a game? And when asked about that in post-game Manning said that he had a really good rapport with White because they practiced a lot together in pre-season to get on the same page. And, that in the play before the TD throw White came up to him in the huddle telling Manning that his defender wasnt guarding him well so Manning should throw him the ball (whicih turned out being the game winning TD)?
If it's the same guy, it sure seems to me that White already has a rapport with Manning..."
That was Collie
If it's the same guy, it sure seems to me that White already has a rapport with Manning..."
That was Collie
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flyonthewall
Footballguy
Not calling anyone out here, but this is what makes this site so great. It may have been just a "rumor" at first, but a lot of non-believers from page one of this post that were calling this rumor BS have disappeared from the discussion and probably missed the boat on what could be a huge waiver wire pick up. All that aside, my question is....with Indy on a BYE this week, are they still required to submit an injury report? Wanting to see if Garcon still shows up on the injury report as he has been over the past few weeks.
He injured his neck in Week 5, but still played last week against the Skins. Not sure if he re-injured it though...
duaneok66
Footballguy
he wasn't on the field that long, so I doubt it . . . we will find out if he is still hurt, because if so, they will have to sign another receiver this week . . .
duaneok66
Footballguy
the difference is that Collie played the whole game , and White played (basically) only late in the 4th . . .
Wow, tough crowd!
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
tdhartis said:
Indianapolis Colts WR Blair White (neck) sustained a neck injury in the team's Week 5 game against the Kansas City Chiefs, reports CBSSports.com. His return to the game is questionable.Read more: http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=675339-co...5#ixzz131qqMc4d
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Resident A
Footballguy
With 4 WR/TEs banged up, Indy will have to put AT LEAST 1 player on IR in order to pick somebody up so they have enough guys to activate for the next game.
I'm guessing Clark goes to IR for sure & possibly Collie or Gonzo, depending where they are injury-wise.
I'm guessing Clark goes to IR for sure & possibly Collie or Gonzo, depending where they are injury-wise.
SmallDawgsBITE
Footballguy
Rotoworld
Hope everyone grabbed Gonzo, as I did.
the spanker
Footballguy
Trying to guage Gonzo's value with all of these injuries. Where does this put him? In PPR solid 2WR? Non PPR where?
Sake-Bombers
Footballguy
I've read here and a few places how if someone is the #3 WR on Indy, then they're who you want, but if they're #4, then they're pond scum. I can't figure out where that's coming from, especially with Clark hurt.
It seems to me that when everyone was healthy, there was enough going around for Clark, Wayne, Collie and Garcon all to be considered top starters. So take two of those out of the equation, and it certainly seems to me like there's room for Gonzalez and White to have value. I'm just confused as to why people are breaking it down as such an either/or proposition. Sure, you have to factor Tamme into this, too, but ultimately, I'd be happy if I picked up any of those three and got 1/3rd of the combined Clark/Collie production, which is essentially what we're all hoping for, right? Seems like they're all solid plays. Just because Gonzalez may be a slightly better play in some folks' opinion doesn't make White completely worthless (and vice versa).
It seems to me that when everyone was healthy, there was enough going around for Clark, Wayne, Collie and Garcon all to be considered top starters. So take two of those out of the equation, and it certainly seems to me like there's room for Gonzalez and White to have value. I'm just confused as to why people are breaking it down as such an either/or proposition. Sure, you have to factor Tamme into this, too, but ultimately, I'd be happy if I picked up any of those three and got 1/3rd of the combined Clark/Collie production, which is essentially what we're all hoping for, right? Seems like they're all solid plays. Just because Gonzalez may be a slightly better play in some folks' opinion doesn't make White completely worthless (and vice versa).
tdhartis
Footballguy
No, just dumping him would be foolish. See if you can package him into a trade for an upgrade at a position if you are desperately looking to fill a bye week spot. He likely only be out 2-3 games and he still holds a lot of value. DO NOT just drop him. Plus, depending on your league they may not know yet the severity of his injury and will be willing to take a gamble, and if you play in a league like one of mine, a good number don't even know he's injured yet.Also, to whoever noted that White was injured in the KC game, I am aware. What stood out to me is that Rotowire reported it again today around 2:00PM when they were sending out reports on various players participation. Only thing that made it noteworthy to me.
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
No, I saw the telecast and the announcer stated that Manning and Collie had been working together a lot and this is why they were so in sync...and I grabbed Gonzo
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It was White.
tdhartis
Footballguy
For those doubting it was White who made that catch after conversing with Peyton, a 10 second google search yielded this: http://www.mlive.com/sports/saginaw/index....td_pass_fr.html
Also here is some video evidence to put it finally to rest.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...White-9-yard-TD
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...White-9-yard-TD
towney
Footballguy
My question too, is this an over reaction to grabbing Gonzo ASAP. Aren't there better WW options still out there like Seahawks Mike Williams or even Panthers Steve Smith who is on our WW. Gonzo hasn't played in a long time and the last time he did he got hurt again. Are we talking Colllie #'s for Gonzo or a bye week plug in. Myself I decided on Mike Williams instead.Someone help me out with the "Grab him ASAP" line.
tdhartis
Footballguy
The grab him ASAP line is related to the fact that he is in the best passing attack in the league, with one of the best QBs to ever play, still in his prime. Collie is out for 2-6 weeks by all reports, and Gonzalez played the slot (Collie's spot) before he was injured. When he did play, he put up impressive numbers. People are jumping on him because with Collie and Garcon hurt (finger), Wayne drawing all the attention, and Clark out, there is a possibility Gonzalez can come in and put up numbers comparable to Collie. It's not as if he is a lesser talent than Collie, Gonzalez has elite talent so he could seemingly immediately put up WR1/2 stats. His only problem is his injury history, and if he stays healthy. If people are willing to take gambles on players like Torain and Foster who have had injury problems in the past, why not Gonzalez?
I like Mike Williams as well, as he has the talent deep down, but he is in a far worse offense with a QB that in his prime was not even close to Peyton. Not to mention Gonzalez has proven he can prosper in the NFL when healthy, this is the first time BMW has shown he isn't a bust. Mike Williams should be a sure thing to put up decent numbers, but Gonzalez has a higher ceiling.
I like Mike Williams as well, as he has the talent deep down, but he is in a far worse offense with a QB that in his prime was not even close to Peyton. Not to mention Gonzalez has proven he can prosper in the NFL when healthy, this is the first time BMW has shown he isn't a bust. Mike Williams should be a sure thing to put up decent numbers, but Gonzalez has a higher ceiling.
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