B Orakpo. (1 Viewer)

[steelcityman]

Not sure if anyone here saw Pitts v WASH tonight but I made my own observations...

I dont care what reports may say on any ffl site, but B Orakpo impressed the hell outta me tonight vs Pitts. I'm a Steeler fan and he was the best player on the field TONIGHT. Steelers stunk, but B.O. looked like an impact player. Might not light up stats sheet with 10 solos a game, but he can be that guy with 5-6 tackles, a sack, and an INT any given game, and have that huge game we all desire. He might be really really good in the near future, and I plan on drafting him in the later rounds of our draft. So, SAM or WILL, I hope he is on my team team. Good draft pick 'Skins.

Also, Malcolm Kelly has potential to be a nice WR3-4 on a fll team, and be the #1 WR in DC this year. If Campbell can get him the ball, he looks solid.

 

[benyamen]

Ya, I completely agree with you on Orakpo. He looked great and I'm glad to have got him as a DL in the last round of our draft this year. I think even with moderate projections for him he could easily be a solid starting weekly DL this season.

 

[T Bell]

I'm a 'Skins fan, but I haven't been so impressed and excited by a rookie as I am with Orakpo in a long, long time. He looks every bit like a stud in the making, and I expect him to have an impact (for NFL purposes, if not for fantasy purposes) right away.

For fantasy purposes, you definitely want him listed as a DE in your league. His role as a starting LB will only help you because he'll get far more solo tackles as a OLB than he will as a DE, but they're still going to line him up as a DE on passing downs, which will also get him sacks. Whether your league distinguishes DE's from DT's or does not, I think he's definitely a starting caliber player.

This is not true so much as a LB as he won't get enough solos, however if your league awards a lot of points for sacks from LB's, then he'll have some value as a LB3 or LB4, or as a primary backup.

I'd project him to have at 50 tackles, at least 8 sacks, and probably a handful of forced fumbles given his size/athleticism as a tackler and the fact that he'll be blindsiding some QB's this year.

I would also add that for dynasty purposes, unless he lights the world on fire as a OLB or they formally adopt a hybrid or 3-4 defense, they'll probably ultimately move him to RDE, so that's something else to consider.

 

[dgreen]

Agree with everything said so far. If you can get him as a DE in your league, he's immediately a nice fantasy player. He'll be on the field every play and should rack up some nice DL numbers. If he's a LB in your league, then he unfortunately won't be worth much. I believe MFL is going to have him as a LB.

I came in here to project 50 tackles, 10 sacks, and 3 FF. T Bell beat me to the punch with pretty much the same projection. Lining up with Hayneworth and Andre Carter is going to be great for him. Against Pittsburgh, Orakpo was running free with those other guys on the field. When it got to 2nd team players, Pittsburgh focused on Orakpo and double teamed him with the RB. He was far less effective. But, there's no way any team can do that to him when they also have to deal with Haynesworth and Carter and any possible blitzers.

 

[T Bell]

I thought this was interesting insight into the mindset of how they'll use Orakpo, especially on passing downs. Link

What we learned

» The Redskins will be creative with how they use Brian Orakpo and Albert Haynesworth. One play, Orakpo lined up at defensive tackle with Haynesworth on the outside. The rookie also ran two stunts and another time they showed blitz behind him, forcing the tight end and back to pick it up - and creating a lane for Orakpo. Andre Carter benefited, too. On the first play, he tipped a pass because he beat his man one-on-one.

 

[steelcityman]

Who is the better FFL WR, Kelly or Thomas? I get them confused a lot.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Who is the better FFL WR, Kelly or Thomas? I get them confused a lot.

No honest 'Skins fan will be able to tell you. Both could be good WR's. Most seem to think that Thomas has higher upside in NFL terms, but what that means as to fantasy we'll just have to see.

 

[Dave Larkin]

Orakpo flashed the kind of raw speed off the edge that the Redskins coveted when they drafted him. On one play, his rush was so quick and powerful that he clean lifted the offensive tackle off his feet. I love his motor and versatility. As an IDP, I think he could be a good LB3 in games where the Redskins will be in front and they can let him loose on the QB.

 

[southeastjerome]

MFL has him listed as a DE, hopefully that designation will remain.

 

[Fighting Noles]

It's changing to LB on Wed the 26th. See the MFL changes thread.....

 

[Sidewinder16]

MFL has him listed as a DE, hopefully that designation will remain.

It won't. MFL is adjusting a number of position listings for players tomorrow, and Orakpo is one of them. He will be a LB in MFL, for now.

 

[southeastjerome]

It's changing to LB on Wed the 26th. See the MFL changes thread.....

Yeah, should have read that thread first. Oh well. I will still be targeting Orakpol in my dynasty big play league.

 

[Tenacious]

He's still listed at DE in yahoo leagues.

I wonder if that will change or not. Yahoo isn't the best at keeping accurate position eligiblity. Marques Colston was a TE,WR for his entire rookie year, even though he never played a down as a TE.

Anyways, assuming Orakpo stays at DE in Yahoo leagues (which he shouldn't but I think he will), what kind of uspide does he have? DE1 upside?

 

[Shaun]

I would have to think so since he'll be a hybrid OLB, much like Suggs, of course his numbers won't come close, but we all know Yahoo is too lazy to change the designation as others have pointed out, so I plan on taking advantage of that little kernel of knowledge and putting him on my team, and doing it well into the draft.He'll get much more tackles that way (then your usual DL positioned player), and the occasional sack as well as the chance to be around the football for turnovers, I love his potential, I just hope my league-mates aren't reading these threads, and I'm sure all you other guys eyeing up Orapko feel the same way!Not too mention, it looks like Washington is going to be on the wrong side of the field a lot this season (Sorry Skins' fans!)

He's still listed at DE in yahoo leagues.I wonder if that will change or not. Yahoo isn't the best at keeping accurate position eligiblity. Marques Colston was a TE,WR for his entire rookie year, even though he never played a down as a TE.Anyways, assuming Orakpo stays at DE in Yahoo leagues (which he shouldn't but I think he will), what kind of uspide does he have? DE1 upside?

 

[Professor S]

He's still listed at DE in yahoo leagues.I wonder if that will change or not. Yahoo isn't the best at keeping accurate position eligiblity. Marques Colston was a TE,WR for his entire rookie year, even though he never played a down as a TE.Anyways, assuming Orakpo stays at DE in Yahoo leagues (which he shouldn't but I think he will), what kind of uspide does he have? DE1 upside?

If Yahoo has him listed as a DE, then he will remain that way for the entire year. It is Yahoo's policy (as most clearly illustrated by the Colstion case) that once they have given a player a designation, they will not take it away even if their positions change. They will add positions but not subtract. Their rationale is that it is not fair to individuals that drafted a player with the intention of starting them at the previously designated position.Having said that, this is a good find, and VERY useful information. Are there any other viable linebackers that are DE eligible in Yahoo leagues? Or is Orakpo the only one?

 

[Tenacious]

Kampan, he's a sub-par LB though, perhaps a DE2-3 talent?

I was hoping Demarcus Ware gains DE eligibility at some point, he would be a fantasy gold mine at DE. Wishful thinking maybe?

 

[HockeyScotty]

He's still listed at DE in yahoo leagues.I wonder if that will change or not. Yahoo isn't the best at keeping accurate position eligiblity. Marques Colston was a TE,WR for his entire rookie year, even though he never played a down as a TE.Anyways, assuming Orakpo stays at DE in Yahoo leagues (which he shouldn't but I think he will), what kind of uspide does he have? DE1 upside?

If Yahoo has him listed as a DE, then he will remain that way for the entire year. It is Yahoo's policy (as most clearly illustrated by the Colstion case) that once they have given a player a designation, they will not take it away even if their positions change. They will add positions but not subtract. Their rationale is that it is not fair to individuals that drafted a player with the intention of starting them at the previously designated position.Having said that, this is a good find, and VERY useful information. Are there any other viable linebackers that are DE eligible in Yahoo leagues? Or is Orakpo the only one?

Terrell Suggs, Chike Okeafor, Tamba Hali, Elvis Dumervil, Robert Ayers, Derrick Burgess, Paul Kruger, David Veikune, and Jason Taylor are listed solely as DE but should be in Hybrid rolesAaron Kampman, Jeremy Thompson, and Matt Roth are already listed at both LB/DEHybrid guys that are listed only as LB for now: Demarcus Ware, Anthony Spencer, Clay Matthews, David Bowens, Brady Poppinga, Mike Vrabel, Clint Sintim, Calvin Pace, Vernon Gholston, James Harrison, LaMarr Woodley, Shawne Merriman, Shaun Phillips, Larry English, Parys Haralson, and Manny Lawson.

 

[Crippler]

Kind of amazed how low he is rated by Jene in the end in his rankings, After watching him last week. the guy is Harrison/Ware type of player to me. I think great chance for D ROY

Is this because you feel he is more of a big play guy and if you had a 1 pt per tackle, 4 per sack league would that change your thoughts on his ranking

 

[Professor S]

He's still listed at DE in yahoo leagues.I wonder if that will change or not. Yahoo isn't the best at keeping accurate position eligiblity. Marques Colston was a TE,WR for his entire rookie year, even though he never played a down as a TE.Anyways, assuming Orakpo stays at DE in Yahoo leagues (which he shouldn't but I think he will), what kind of uspide does he have? DE1 upside?

If Yahoo has him listed as a DE, then he will remain that way for the entire year. It is Yahoo's policy (as most clearly illustrated by the Colstion case) that once they have given a player a designation, they will not take it away even if their positions change. They will add positions but not subtract. Their rationale is that it is not fair to individuals that drafted a player with the intention of starting them at the previously designated position.Having said that, this is a good find, and VERY useful information. Are there any other viable linebackers that are DE eligible in Yahoo leagues? Or is Orakpo the only one?

Terrell Suggs, Chike Okeafor, Tamba Hali, Elvis Dumervil, Robert Ayers, Derrick Burgess, Paul Kruger, David Veikune, and Jason Taylor are listed solely as DE but should be in Hybrid rolesAaron Kampman, Jeremy Thompson, and Matt Roth are already listed at both LB/DEHybrid guys that are listed only as LB for now: Demarcus Ware, Anthony Spencer, Clay Matthews, David Bowens, Brady Poppinga, Mike Vrabel, Clint Sintim, Calvin Pace, Vernon Gholston, James Harrison, LaMarr Woodley, Shawne Merriman, Shaun Phillips, Larry English, Parys Haralson, and Manny Lawson.

Thanks for the help! This great information for Yahoo IDP'ers!I would think having Kampman as a DE would greatly increase his value. Sorry for derailing this thread slightly . . . please return to the original topic!

 

[HockeyScotty]

Kind of amazed how low he is rated by Jene in the end in his rankings, After watching him last week. the guy is Harrison/Ware type of player to me. I think great chance for D ROYIs this because you feel he is more of a big play guy and if you had a 1 pt per tackle, 4 per sack league would that change your thoughts on his ranking

Personally, I am very high for Brian Orakpo in Washington, but I would not go so far as to put him with the elite OLB like Ware and Harrison just yet.He still will struggle in coverage and Washington has him listed at Sam backer in their base defense. But playing him off the edge as a rush LB on passing downs will bring in lots of sack opportunities. I would compare him this season more towards Shaun Phillips or Joey Porter type upside. Certainly in the future he could be up there with Suggs, Harrison, and Ware.