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Dayne
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Not a backup, and should've been at the top of your list anyway.
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Assume a backup for the purposes of discussion :penalty:
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But he's not a backup. It's flawed.And like I said, in some twisted world where you consider him one, he should be first on the list, because he's the STARTER in Denver.
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for now. If you can't play along, there are plenty of other threads. and for the record, those aren't my rankings, they're just names. deal with it.

 
Dayne
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Not a backup, and should've been at the top of your list anyway.
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Assume a backup for the purposes of discussion :penalty:
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But he's not a backup. It's flawed.And like I said, in some twisted world where you consider him one, he should be first on the list, because he's the STARTER in Denver.
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for now. If you can't play along, there are plenty of other threads.
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This is amusing me.
 
Thomas Jones if he fails to get the start.

Tatum Bell if Dayne gets the nod.

Turner. Beast when/if LT2 is limited.

Reggie Bush. Won't be on this list long.

MB3. Saved me last year.

Mike Anderson. For the same reasons I have Jones at the top.

Chris Perry. /agree...will be huge someday.

Dayne if Bell starts.

DeAngelo/Maroney/White until they prove that they are starters or suck.

Drew/Greg Jones. Whoever is in line when Taylor breaks will be a stud.

Moore/Fason. Confident in either starting.

Benson. If Jones gets the nod.

 
Chris Perry.  /agree...will be huge someday.
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Not singling you out, but with each passing year, I think it's becoming less likely.
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Fair enough. If he hasn't got it yet, will he ever? But he has been behind Rudi since he came up and this is only his 3rd year. If he gets opportunity, (LJ anyone?) who's to say his 3rd year won't be a breakout one? He has skills, and in his system...I definately place him around the top tier of backups, whether or not he is "huge" someday. I was just agreeing with Otis about his potential future.
 
There's been several other of theses threads, and I am always the first one to bring up Dee Brown. Unless something changes, he should be very high on this list.

 
There's been several other of theses threads, and I am always the first one to bring up Dee Brown. Unless something changes, he should be very high on this list.
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Now, since I've been gone during most of the offseason...Is he :confirmed: as the backup, or are we still speculating?

 
For redrafts, I like Betts and Turner cuz they can be had late and can step right in and produce. Moats was on there til he got injured.

 
There's been several other of theses threads, and I am always the first one to bring up Dee Brown.  Unless something changes, he should be very high on this list.
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Now, since I've been gone during most of the offseason...Is he :confirmed: as the backup, or are we still speculating?
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#1 backup to LJ is Priest. Priest still cannot find a doctor to clear him to play. There has been specualtion that the Chiefs would add another RB. That hasn't happened to date. IIRC, Edwards has said he would be happy to roll with the RB corps as is and that Brown is capable. He also said he hopes to run the ball 500 times this year. That's all we know. Does this fall under the speculation category?
 
There's been several other of theses threads, and I am always the first one to bring up Dee Brown.  Unless something changes, he should be very high on this list.
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Now, since I've been gone during most of the offseason...Is he :confirmed: as the backup, or are we still speculating?
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#1 backup to LJ is Priest. Priest still cannot find a doctor to clear him to play. There has been specualtion that the Chiefs would add another RB. That hasn't happened to date. IIRC, Edwards has said he would be happy to roll with the RB corps as is and that Brown is capable. He also said he hopes to run the ball 500 times this year. That's all we know. Does this fall under the speculation category?
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Thanks for the info, DY.
 
Surprised Williams in CAR hasn't been mentioned, Foster never stays healthy.
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Williams could very well beat out Foster by week 1, so I don't put him in the true backup category.
 
I consider Den, Atl, NO, even Chi (if Jones stays there) to be RBBC, so neither are a "starter" to me. With the actual starter/backup situations, I see:

L. White (unless he is named starter before the year starts)

M. Barber

D. Williams - you know Foster will be hurt at least 4-5 games

Maroney (maybe not until about the midway point)

D. Rhodes (if Addai wins the job, otherwise flip - I don't see Dungy making this a pure RBBC like Shanny does)

M. Anderson - vulture?

C. Houston - if CuMar is out for awhile, I see Houston getting a majority of the carries......this is the Jets though, so my enthusiasm is small

B. Calhoun - big play availablility if K. Jones fails again

If guys were to get hurt....

M. Turner

L. Betts

Staley

 
No one lists Morency in this entire thread? DD is the most injury prone starter in the league. With Kubiak there, Morency could be big this year.

 
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Surprised Williams in CAR hasn't been mentioned, Foster never stays healthy.
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Williams could very well beat out Foster by week 1, so I don't put him in the true backup category.
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This has been discussed at length in another thread. Foster is the unquestioned starter. Fox is extremely loyal to his vets and Foster will be the man as long as he stays healthy. As evidence, even when SDavis grossly underperformed Foster, SD still started and got the bulk of the work. Do not make the mistake of thinking there is any competition for this job.
 
H.K. said:
Otis said:
Surprised Williams in CAR hasn't been mentioned, Foster never stays healthy.
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Williams could very well beat out Foster by week 1, so I don't put him in the true backup category.
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This has been discussed at length in another thread. Foster is the unquestioned starter. Fox is extremely loyal to his vets and Foster will be the man as long as he stays healthy. As evidence, even when SDavis grossly underperformed Foster, SD still started and got the bulk of the work. Do not make the mistake of thinking there is any competition for this job.
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You are absolutely out of your mind. There are a million threads buried here (some probably long gone actually) that discuss Deshaun Foster. Any guy who is in the league that long and has the opportunity and still never takes it over is unlikely to be anything. Combine that with the fact that he is ALWAYS hurt, and, perhaps more importantly, even when healthy, his numbers are surprisingly VERY pedestrian, and there is no way I have an ounce of faith in this guy.Righetti did a great analysis on Foster's numbers last year -- it was very eye-opening. Unfortunately the thread rolled to the back of the pool and was clipped. I wish I could link it here, and I don't have the time to recreate the analysis.

Suffice it to say that all of the above combined with the fact that they drafted Deangelo and I think the end result is pretty clear.

 
Otis said:
H.K. said:
Otis said:
Surprised Williams in CAR hasn't been mentioned, Foster never stays healthy.
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Williams could very well beat out Foster by week 1, so I don't put him in the true backup category.
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This has been discussed at length in another thread. Foster is the unquestioned starter. Fox is extremely loyal to his vets and Foster will be the man as long as he stays healthy. As evidence, even when SDavis grossly underperformed Foster, SD still started and got the bulk of the work. Do not make the mistake of thinking there is any competition for this job.
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You are absolutely out of your mind. There are a million threads buried here (some probably long gone actually) that discuss Deshaun Foster. Any guy who is in the league that long and has the opportunity and still never takes it over is unlikely to be anything. Combine that with the fact that he is ALWAYS hurt, and, perhaps more importantly, even when healthy, his numbers are surprisingly VERY pedestrian, and there is no way I have an ounce of faith in this guy.Righetti did a great analysis on Foster's numbers last year -- it was very eye-opening. Unfortunately the thread rolled to the back of the pool and was clipped. I wish I could link it here, and I don't have the time to recreate the analysis.

Suffice it to say that all of the above combined with the fact that they drafted Deangelo and I think the end result is pretty clear.
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No he's not. You having absolutely no faith in him does not matter to John Fox. There are plenty of examples that prove Fox is loyal to his veterans. That doesn't mean Foster won't get injured again and hand the reins over but I wouldn't count on that someone being Williams (try Goings).
 
amphibianbri said:
I consider Den, Atl, NO, even Chi (if Jones stays there) to be RBBC, so neither are a "starter" to me. With the actual starter/backup situations, I see:

L. White (unless he is named starter before the year starts)

M. Barber

D. Williams - you know Foster will be hurt at least 4-5 games

Maroney (maybe not until about the midway point)

D. Rhodes (if Addai wins the job, otherwise flip - I don't see Dungy making this a pure RBBC like Shanny does)

M. Anderson - vulture?

C. Houston - if CuMar is out for awhile, I see Houston getting a majority of the carries......this is the Jets though, so my enthusiasm is small

B. Calhoun - big play availablility if K. Jones fails again

If guys were to get hurt....

M. Turner

L. Betts

Staley
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I think if FWP goes down it will be Verron Haynes that gets the nod ahead of Staley. And I think he'd be very effective.
 
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You are absolutely out of your mind. There are a million threads buried here (some probably long gone actually) that discuss Deshaun Foster. Any guy who is in the league that long and has the opportunity and still never takes it over is unlikely to be anything. Combine that with the fact that he is ALWAYS hurt, and, perhaps more importantly, even when healthy, his numbers are surprisingly VERY pedestrian, and there is no way I have an ounce of faith in this guy.Righetti did a great analysis on Foster's numbers last year -- it was very eye-opening. Unfortunately the thread rolled to the back of the pool and was clipped. I wish I could link it here, and I don't have the time to recreate the analysis.Suffice it to say that all of the above combined with the fact that they drafted Deangelo and I think the end result is pretty clear.
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Let me see if I understand this situation correctly: Your buddy posts something on the board and you have an opinion that agrees with it, so it trumps the information I get directly from people working in the Panthers organization? Makes sense....
 
Here are my RBs that keep the pine warm...

Chestor Taylor

Ron Dayne

Mike Bell (i have #1 on waivers)

Deangelo Williams

Cedric Benson

 
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Otis said:
You are absolutely out of your mind. There are a million threads buried here (some probably long gone actually) that discuss Deshaun Foster. Any guy who is in the league that long and has the opportunity and still never takes it over is unlikely to be anything. Combine that with the fact that he is ALWAYS hurt, and, perhaps more importantly, even when healthy, his numbers are surprisingly VERY pedestrian, and there is no way I have an ounce of faith in this guy.Righetti did a great analysis on Foster's numbers last year -- it was very eye-opening. Unfortunately the thread rolled to the back of the pool and was clipped. I wish I could link it here, and I don't have the time to recreate the analysis.Suffice it to say that all of the above combined with the fact that they drafted Deangelo and I think the end result is pretty clear.
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Let me see if I understand this situation correctly: Your buddy posts something on the board and you have an opinion that agrees with it, so it trumps the information I get directly from people working in the Panthers organization? Makes sense....
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Oh, you know a guy. My bad. :rolleyes:
 
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Sorry. I'm just going on statistics and what I've seen during Deshaun's 4-year passionate love affair with the trainer's table. But you know a guy who knows a guy who knows things are going to be different now. So I take it all back.
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Foster is fragile, I am not debating that fact. I am debating the fact that you seem to think that there is an open competition for the starting job. There is none. Whether or not you believe I know this from several people who work for the team, that's up to your discretion. What I am telling you for a fact is that Foster is the starter. This thread is about back-up RB's that have value. I mentioned Williams as a great back-up RB to get because Foster hasn't stayed healthy.
 
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Otis said:
Sorry. I'm just going on statistics and what I've seen during Deshaun's 4-year passionate love affair with the trainer's table. But you know a guy who knows a guy who knows things are going to be different now. So I take it all back.
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Foster is fragile, I am not debating that fact. I am debating the fact that you seem to think that there is an open competition for the starting job. There is none. Whether or not you believe I know this from several people who work for the team, that's up to your discretion. What I am telling you for a fact is that Foster is the starter. This thread is about back-up RB's that have value. I mentioned Williams as a great back-up RB to get because Foster hasn't stayed healthy.
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That's fine, but you also suggested there is no way Deangelo could take the job away from Foster. Foster has been sufficiently very average throughout much of his career, such that I have no doubt that Williams could unseat him as a result of Foster being injured or just plain not as good.
 
Otis said:
Sorry. I'm just going on statistics and what I've seen during Deshaun's 4-year passionate love affair with the trainer's table. But you know a guy who knows a guy who knows things are going to be different now. So I take it all back.
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OK before you 2 get a room (let's hope) Earth to my main man Otis: there's only about a 99.5% chance that Foster is the starter. What you or any of us think means nothing to that, it's been the clear indication from CAR, and there's little if evidence to think otherwise. Get over it. Now how long the new Fragile Freddy stays upright is another story, but he is the starter. Can we get back to the actual topic now?My top backups (draft wise) off the top:D WmsWhiteMaroneyBarberGadoPerrywhoever (by this time our draft will probably be over - if not flip a coin)
 
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That's fine, but you also suggested there is no way Deangelo could take the job away from Foster this pre-season. I have no doubt that Williams could unseat him as a result of Foster being injured which is why I added Williams to this thread or just plain not as good which would have to be a dramatic difference in order for Fox to turn over the starting role to a rookie in a potential SB season.
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Ironically, an argument has taken place between two people that agree.
 
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Foster has been sufficiently very average throughout much of his career
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That isn't true. Foster's opportunities have been limited during his NFL career thus far, but he has done very well on several occasions when he had to take over for an injured Stephen Davis.
 
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