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GRIDIRON ASSASSIN

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NONE of the 'inexperienced playoff QBs' have won so far in this year's playoffs: Eli Manning? Nope. Carson Palmer? Nope. Chris Simms? Nope. Byron Sandwich? Nope. That leaves one inexperienced playoff QB: Rex Grossman.And on another side note: 3 of 4 home teams lost this weekend also. The Pats were the only winner with Tampa, NY Giants and Cincy all falling

 
The team who's nickname comes first alphabetically is 0-4.Either the Bears are done, or trends based on four games aren't as meaningful as they look.

 
Home teams are traditionally very dominant in the 2nd round of the playoffs, moreso than in any other round, I believe.

 
Somewhere near 80%.
I believe that to be correct.On the other hand...

I also think it's difficult for run dominant teams to win late into the playoffs, because their main weapon has already been abused much throughout the season. I think the Jets would've beaten the Steelers last year if they had turned a fresh Lamont Jordan loose in their playoff game instead of using C-Mart so much, much like the Panthers are doing now with Foster (and did during their last run).

Related to that, I thought Lovie Smith was doing his team a favor by keeping A. Peterson involved in the offense. Could prove to be a deciding factor if they need to look to a fresher RB.

So there's a lot of things at play here. Chicago gets an extra week off against a team they beat handily last time, but what happened half a season ago doesn't always mean much come playoff time, especially with Carolina seeming to be peeking at the right time.

The defenses will be dominant, and it will come down to which QB makes the least mistakes.

 
possibly the worst QB play of the weekend was by Brunell, and his team won.with defense.which the Bears will do too. :popcorn: at least in the second round.and maybe the 3rd.they might need a QB in order to win the Super Bowl though. :excited:

 
Home teams are traditionally very dominant in the 2nd round of the playoffs, moreso than in any other round, I believe.
The last time the Bears hosted a game in the 2nd round of the playoffs, they got manhandled pretty easily by the Eagles.
 
Home teams are traditionally very dominant in the 2nd round of the playoffs, moreso than in any other round, I believe.
The last time the Bears hosted a game in the 2nd round of the playoffs, they got manhandled pretty easily by the Eagles.
Chill and drink the kool-aid. We owned this team already, as well as their division. What have they done? They beat up the Giants with half their D out or injured!! You think after the starting D watched how pathetic the 3rd stringers played against Minny, that they won't be flying for this game? Did you see Urlacher on the sideline. I feel sorry for the Panthers, cuz they are going to get a beat down.
 
Home teams are traditionally very dominant in the 2nd round of the playoffs, moreso than in any other round, I believe.
The last time the Bears hosted a game in the 2nd round of the playoffs, they got manhandled pretty easily by the Eagles.
Chill and drink the kool-aid. We owned this team already, as well as their division. What have they done? They beat up the Giants with half their D out or injured!! You think after the starting D watched how pathetic the 3rd stringers played against Minny, that they won't be flying for this game? Did you see Urlacher on the sideline. I feel sorry for the Panthers, cuz they are going to get a beat down.
13-3 = Owned ????
 
Home teams are traditionally very dominant in the 2nd round of the playoffs, moreso than in any other round, I believe.
The last time the Bears hosted a game in the 2nd round of the playoffs, they got manhandled pretty easily by the Eagles.
Chill and drink the kool-aid. We owned this team already, as well as their division. What have they done? They beat up the Giants with half their D out or injured!! You think after the starting D watched how pathetic the 3rd stringers played against Minny, that they won't be flying for this game? Did you see Urlacher on the sideline. I feel sorry for the Panthers, cuz they are going to get a beat down.
13-3 = Owned ????
Yep, remember it was 10-0 after 1Q, 13-0 at the half. We just ran clock and let the D take care of everything. It was a 10 point win.
 
Home teams are traditionally very dominant in the 2nd round of the playoffs, moreso than in any other round, I believe.
Unless your KC.......Yudkin had a thread about this awhile back and said since the current format came in 1990, I think only 10 team have lost the 2nd round home game....and KC has 3 of those in '95, '97 & '03

 
Byron Sandwich? Nope.
:lmao: Bears are a special case IMHO. This will come down how many points they let up, not how may they score. It is a valid point, I just the Bears are a special case.

 
Home teams are traditionally very dominant in the 2nd round of the playoffs, moreso than in any other round, I believe.
The last time the Bears hosted a game in the 2nd round of the playoffs, they got manhandled pretty easily by the Eagles.
33-19...yeah, I remember that game. I do think, however, that this Bears team is better than the 2001 team. That doesn't necessarily mean I think they will win this time, but just thought it was worth pointing out.
Home teams are traditionally very dominant in the 2nd round of the playoffs, moreso than in any other round, I believe.
Unless your KC.......Yudkin had a thread about this awhile back and said since the current format came in 1990, I think only 10 team have lost the 2nd round home game....and KC has 3 of those in '95, '97 & '03
Pittsburgh might lose AFC title games at home, but KC prefers to get those home losses out of the way in the divisional round. Gotta love it. :D
 
NONE of the 'inexperienced playoff QBs' have won so far in this year's playoffs:

Eli Manning? Nope.

Carson Palmer? Nope.

Chris Simms? Nope.

Byron Sandwich? Nope.

That leaves one inexperienced playoff QB: Rex Grossman.

And on another side note: 3 of 4 home teams lost this weekend also. The Pats were the only winner with Tampa, NY Giants and Cincy all falling
I thought the Panthers were the better team in that matchup, but Manning was definitely horrible today.Palmer is a bad example...He basically didn't play today.

Chris Simms didn't play well, agreed.

Sandwich was put in a tough situation - he was limping around, and that was a gamble that backfired for Jacksonville. NE was heavily favored in that game anyways, so it would have taken a monster effort to win that game!

 
especially with Carolina seeming to be peeking at the right time.
Did the Bears put a hole in the visiting locker room wall like the Eagles used to have? We already know what the Panthers cheerleaders are capable of. :excited: ;)

 
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Panthers are the last team I wanted to play here, but Im still confident. I realize we will not be manhandling them like we did the 1st time around, but Im still confident.No way Foster and Goings come even close to doing what they did yesterday, and that will put much more pressure on Delhomme, who if pressured any will make mistakes.

 
NONE of the 'inexperienced playoff QBs' have won so far in this year's playoffs:

Eli Manning? Nope.

Carson Palmer? Nope.

Chris Simms? Nope.

Byron Sandwich? Nope.

That leaves one inexperienced playoff QB: Rex Grossman.

And on another side note: 3 of 4 home teams lost this weekend also. The Pats were the only winner with Tampa, NY Giants and Cincy all falling
As I said before, Simms and Manning certainly didn't help the team, but not sure that experienced quarterbacking had anything to do with Washington beating Tampa, as much as it was turnovers that seemed to dictate that game. If you turn the ball over, you probably won't win in the NFL playoffs. Teams are too good to allow you to overcome those mistakes. Especially if the turnovers are on your own end of the field. Turnovers condemned the Bucs, Jaguars, Bengals, and Giants. That is not a coincedence. Guaranteed, if any of the remaining teams turn the ball over like that, they will lose the game. The Bears will not survive the Panthers if they win the turnover battle.
 
Home teams are traditionally very dominant in the 2nd round of the playoffs, moreso than in any other round, I believe.
The last time the Bears hosted a game in the 2nd round of the playoffs, they got manhandled pretty easily by the Eagles.
Chill and drink the kool-aid. We owned this team already, as well as their division. What have they done? They beat up the Giants with half their D out or injured!! You think after the starting D watched how pathetic the 3rd stringers played against Minny, that they won't be flying for this game? Did you see Urlacher on the sideline. I feel sorry for the Panthers, cuz they are going to get a beat down.
I was a little worried about the Bears this weekend, but BadSS has been gold on his picks lately.
 
NONE of the 'inexperienced playoff QBs' have won so far in this year's playoffs:

Eli Manning? Nope.

Carson Palmer? Nope.

Chris Simms? Nope.

Byron Sandwich? Nope.

That leaves one inexperienced playoff QB: Rex Grossman.

And on another side note: 3 of 4 home teams lost this weekend also. The Pats were the only winner with Tampa, NY Giants and Cincy all falling
The only thing I can think of here that makes the Bears different is that they have been winning despite their QB all season rather than because of him. I think that the playoff trend trend stops this week and the Bears pull one out....**** edited to clarify my point to make sure that it was apparent that I thought the trend of young QB's losing in the playoffs would end this week rather than the Bears winning despite the play of the QB.

 
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The one thing I will say about the Bears this season is that more times than not, they have risen to the challenge.I was kind of hoping it would be about 2 degrees at game time, but the weather is going to be ok (in the 40's)....so no help for the Bears there.

 
Somewhere near 80%.
Which suggests it is very likely one of the 4 away teams will win this weekend, the question is which:NE over Denver?Pitt over Indy?Washington over Seattle?Carolina over the Bears?The popular pick will be the New England 'upset'. Personally i think Brady loses his first playoff game. Patriots are hot in the short term, but at times like these i like to look at the longer term trend, and Denver is definately on the rise and NE on the downslope. Throw in the extra week off and home field and its hard to see Denver dropping this one. Indy should handle Pittsburgh so long as they dont manage to nuke Mannings knee on the first drive. Seattle ought to have no problem with Washington. I like the Bears matchup on paper but of the four games this seem like the biggest opportunity to steal one on the road. Grossman is young and the Carolina D is on fire. Delholme and company have been to the big dance, and the whipping the Bears gave them during the regular season notwithstanding, this is the kind of offense the Bears D can struggle with. The recievers are small and quick and Foster is slippery. The one ***** in the Bears defensive armor has been questionable tackling at times, and if they dont take down Steve Smith and Foster immediately they will give them fits. This is not the classic 'stiffling' defense. They take away the big play and let things develop in front of them, then swarm in and try for big hits and turnovers. Works well but if one guy doesnt make a play or isnt where he is sposed to be you're in trouble.
 
Trends end. I read somwhere that the Bears are 0-5 after bye weeks. Why would someone someone stop at the last 5 weeks after byes? I dont know the stat but why don't they go further back? Maybe they are 5 and 5 after their last bye weeks. That would mean that the trend of winning the next five should start this week. Its not possible that the bears will never win another game after a bye week. Like I said, I don't know the stats, but stats can be manipulated in many ways. Trends come and go.

 
Home teams are traditionally very dominant in the 2nd round of the playoffs, moreso than in any other round, I believe.
The last time the Bears hosted a game in the 2nd round of the playoffs, they got manhandled pretty easily by the Eagles.
Chill and drink the kool-aid. We owned this team already, as well as their division. What have they done? They beat up the Giants with half their D out or injured!! You think after the starting D watched how pathetic the 3rd stringers played against Minny, that they won't be flying for this game? Did you see Urlacher on the sideline. I feel sorry for the Panthers, cuz they are going to get a beat down.
13-3 = Owned ????
Start by saying, big Bears homer. But, yes, the Bears truly did own them in that first game. Even though Smith caught 14 balls fro 169, he was kept in check the whole game and the Bears D never (obviously) let him get behind them. That game was essentially over with in the 1st quarter, and there are not many times you can say that about a game.That being said, this game scares me big time. Between flashbacks of our last home playoff game, and the fact that the Panthers did look excellent against a very battered Giants team, I feel very little confidence in this game. But for those who point out that first time starting QB's in the playoffs always lose, I say that this is the least of the Bears worries. Grossman will not lose the game for the Bears, nor will he win it for them.

 
One big thing Carolina should be concerned is the OL play in passing downs. They gave up eight sacks the first time they played the Bears. They rushed for 200+ yards but got sacked four times Sunday. The OL is their key to success in this game. Can't see Foster getting 100+ yards in Chicago.

 
Trying that reverse jinx that worked so well for BNB, eh Grid?
It worked when I feared the mighty Boston Red Sox when my White Sox faced them. ;) ....and yes, the Bears offensive and defensive lines OWNED the Panthers back in November.

13-3 with Kyle Orton at QB is the very definition of a Bears blowout prior to Grossman's return.

 
point taken about the young QBs not getting it done, but that was in week 1. Bye week beneficiaries aided by rest and playing at home, backed by the league's best D and in brutal passing conditions are far more likely to fly straight. Im betting the house on the Bears this week....Carolina doesnt have a chance.

 
point taken about the young QBs not getting it done, but that was in week 1. Bye week beneficiaries aided by rest and playing at home, backed by the league's best D and in brutal passing conditions are far more likely to fly straight. Im betting the house on the Bears this week....Carolina doesnt have a chance.
The Bears are 0-5 coming off their last five bye weeks.There's another bad trend to chomp on.

 
carolina = solid all around team coached by a very smart well prepared coach that are always underrated particularly on their last very similar superbowl runbears = overhyped defense that built up their stats playing in the crap tacular NFC north. any team that plays GB, minny, det twice each will by definition have great defensive stats also playing in the NFC also helps a lot too. lost to all afc teams they played by a lot except ravens (6-10 what a game). cinci 7-24, cle 10-20, pit 9-21. out of all the terrible NFC one would have to admit carolina is the most like an AFC team in that they are solid on both sides, have a great O line, and aren't completely one dimensional. chicago was very lucky to beat them the first time and lightning won't be striking twice this year. bears are done for. money on the bears is dead money.

 
chicago was very lucky to beat them the first time
Yeah, you are right, the Bears suck, no talent hacks they are. They were lucky that the Panthers o-line let them by to sack Delhomme 8 times. they were lucky that the Panthers decided to be nice and not sack the QB at all. They were also lucky that Delhomme let them intercept the ball twice, how nice of him. They were lucky that Carolina waited untill 8 mins left in the 4th qtr to score that field goal. They were lucky that Foster was tired only felt like rushing 9 times for 41 long yards. They were lucky that Peppers only felt like making 2 tackles the whole game. :bag:

 
chicago was very lucky to beat them the first time
Yeah, you are right, the Bears suck, no talent hacks they are. They were lucky that the Panthers o-line let them by to sack Delhomme 8 times. they were lucky that the Panthers decided to be nice and not sack the QB at all. They were also lucky that Delhomme let them intercept the ball twice, how nice of him. They were lucky that Carolina waited untill 8 mins left in the 4th qtr to score that field goal. They were lucky that Foster was tired only felt like rushing 9 times for 41 long yards. They were lucky that Peppers only felt like making 2 tackles the whole game. :bag:
yeah i know i'm right. it's ok touchy bears guy maybe one day your team will get an offense. bears have the worst O and least experienced QB still in the playoffs including washington. steve smith had 169 yards last time with no TDs i think he'll more than make up for that with 2 or 3 TDs this week. if bears single cover smith it will be a blowout. panthers weren't playing well then and now their O line is rolling and not hurt like they were when they played the bears earlier. delhomme is 10-1 TD-INT ratio in the playoffs. without his gifts last time bears couldn't have won. you built up your defensive stats against terrible teams. this is so easy its obvious.no way bears win.

this is cinci all over again, regular season and playoffs are very different my friend

are you gonna get all defensive about every single post against the bears, if so you're going to get carpal tunnel. i'll consider accepting your apology when the bears lose.

 
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Smith's 169 yds were all garbage, they never added up to any points except 1 fg. There is no doubt that the Panthers are a better team now ,then they were when they got pummeled by the Bears, but that has nothing to do with the Bears being "Lucky" to beat them in the regular season.. That is just an absurd statement.Edited for clarification.

 
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so what's your problem now? carolina was a much better team on paper than the bears and therefore the bears were lucky to beat them. hence why they play the games and it can't rain everyday.

 
delhomme is 10-1 TD-INT ratio in the playoffs. without his gifts last time bears couldn't have won.
The problem is you are a homer that thinks they were gifts, and everyone else knows that they happened because of the Bears pressure on the QB. I know it was a bad loss for the panthers, but at least be honest why they lost.
 
i'm not a homer jerkoff i live in Maryland i just know football and you are a bears homer that knows jack. i hate the whole NFC but i gamble and play FF so it pays to know things. you actually think delhomme will be as pressured this week after osi and strahan couldn't get to him last week. they had the best d line warm up for the bears and with delhomme upright there's no chance for the bears.also i don't hear you refuting the statement:NO WAY BEARS WIN

 
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i'm not a homer jerkoff i live in Maryland i just know football and you are a bears homer that knows jack. you actually think delhomme will be as pressured this week after osi and strahan couldn't get to him last week. they had the best d line warm up for the bears and with delhomme upright there's no chance for the bears.
I'm sorry you live in Maryland, you are right, you just know football, enjoy the game. :rolleyes:

 
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Smith's 169 yds were all garbage, they never added up to any points except 1 fg. There is no doubt that the Panthers are a better team now ,then they were when they got pummeled by the Bears, but that has nothing to do with the Bears being "Lucky" to beat them in the regular season..

That is just an absurd statement.

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I don't understand how 169 yards are garbage.It's not like he got them all in the 4th quarter while they were playing catchup.

....but I agree that the 'lucky' comment is ridiculous.

 
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I don't understand how 169 yards are garbage.

It's not like he got them all in the 4th quarter while they were playing catchup.

....but I agree that the 'lucky' comment is ridiculous.
What I meant by that was they did not help produce any points, except for the one field goal. So you are right, they are not "garbage yds" , I should not have used that term, they just did not turn into any points.But this guy "Knows football" so he must be right!

It would be nice if he "knew" how to use the shift key , and maybe "knew' how to use punctuation. Those run-on sentences can be hard to read.

 
so what's your problem now? carolina was a much better team on paper than the bears and therefore the bears were lucky to beat them. hence why they play the games and it can't rain everyday.
Lucky? They absolutely manhandled them for 60 minutes. Almost like they were playing a pop warner team. There was no luck involved in that Bear domination

 
It was crushing. I was at the game and it felt like a 30 point lead. Bears own the NFC South. Hell Bears own the NFC.

 
so what's your problem now? carolina was a much better team on paper than the bears and therefore the bears were lucky to beat them. hence why they play the games and it can't rain everyday.
Lucky? They absolutely manhandled them for 60 minutes. Almost like they were playing a pop warner team. There was no luck involved in that Bear domination
Agreed, there was no luck. They were outplayed and outcoached. Carolina did not adjust well to the pressure of Chicago's front four, and they only ran the ball around 15 times the whole game (hardly any in the second half).Look for a different team and a different strategy this time around. Carolina will be playing an extremely conservative gameplan. Look for lots and lots of running, even if it means we punt for the first 6 possesions. Hell, Carolina will be running on 3rd and 10 (they did this a few times against the Giants). They will be playing field postition ball, and if they have any success running than I think the game will be pretty close. This game will come down to how well we run the ball and who makes the least amount of turnovers. Carolina will not want to spot the Bears 10 points again.

 
panthers weren't playing well then
Why do people keep saying this? The Panthers had won 6 straight games heading into Chicago. Their last 3 heading into the game, they outscored their opponents 102-30. They were "the hottest team in the NFL outside of Indy". They even went on to win 2 after the Chicago game making it wins in 8 of 9 games - all except Chicago.Enough of the Panthers weren't playing well BS.
 
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point taken about the young QBs not getting it done, but that was in week 1.  Bye week beneficiaries aided by rest and playing at home, backed by the league's best D and in brutal passing conditions are far more likely to fly straight.  Im betting the house on the Bears this week....Carolina doesnt have a chance.
The Bears are 0-5 coming off their last five bye weeks.There's another bad trend to chomp on.
FWIW, the weather is supposed to be pretty nice (for Chicago in January, that is) --This Weekend's Forecasts

40°F for a high, 35°F for a low with a 20% chance for precipitation. Partly cloudy, with moderate winds most likely...That's about as good as it gets in this venue during January.

My .02.

 

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