SportsMumboJumbo
Footballguy
Without Rex Ryan these guys are clearly not the same D. In both games they have allowed 20+ points, is it time to search for another Defense and abandon these guys only after 2 week?
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Lott's Fingertip
Footballguy
They play Cleveland this week.
This. BUT, if they can't hold Cleveland to a TD or under or get a score, they may be worthless. I'll give them one more week
SportsMumboJumbo
Footballguy
So I guess if they do it this week its unquestionable that you have to let them go
Gr00vus
Footballguy
You may want to dig a bit further into the defense's stats against KC. The D only gave up 17 points - 7 of those came on a 6 yard KC "drive" after KC returned an interception 70 yards. The D only gave up 188 yards net in that game.
Last week they played one of the top 5 offenses in the NFL.
They have a very nice SOS going forward. Their offense looks competent enough to keep them off the field a reasonable amount of the time.
Last week they played one of the top 5 offenses in the NFL.
They have a very nice SOS going forward. Their offense looks competent enough to keep them off the field a reasonable amount of the time.
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SportsMumboJumbo
Footballguy
Still 17 points with a backup QB in there for KC, not very Raven-like
North
Footballguy
Look at their stats vs. the run, still one of the best.
The KC game they dominated but KC caught a break and had a short field with a turn over and returned a block punt for a TD.
The SD game was a bit concerning but they were playing one of the best offenses in the league. SD will do that to many teams this year! Look at what SD did on the ground though, nothing! Plus many of SD receiving yards came off of slants and screens.
The ravens D will be fine, one of the ttop 5 come years end (barring injury). You would be a fool to get rid of them, but do as you please.
The KC game they dominated but KC caught a break and had a short field with a turn over and returned a block punt for a TD.
The SD game was a bit concerning but they were playing one of the best offenses in the league. SD will do that to many teams this year! Look at what SD did on the ground though, nothing! Plus many of SD receiving yards came off of slants and screens.
The ravens D will be fine, one of the ttop 5 come years end (barring injury). You would be a fool to get rid of them, but do as you please.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
They've played it very vanilla the first two weeks & I'm not sure why. They've still got playmakers who can play the "old" Ravens style of D. It's when they went into their blitzkreig mode that they traditionally got the bulk of their turnovers. They haven't been doing much of that stuff so far, so not many INTs, sacks, fumbles, etc...
The run D is fine. Rivers lit them up, but the Ravens have small corners & struggle against big WRs like SD has. Plus, as someone said - Rivers will put up big numbers on a lot of teams.
In my opinion, they need to attack more to create turnovers. I'd love to hear Mattison's comments on why he's played it the way he has.
FF-wise, I wouldn't give up on them just yet.
The run D is fine. Rivers lit them up, but the Ravens have small corners & struggle against big WRs like SD has. Plus, as someone said - Rivers will put up big numbers on a lot of teams.
In my opinion, they need to attack more to create turnovers. I'd love to hear Mattison's comments on why he's played it the way he has.
FF-wise, I wouldn't give up on them just yet.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
They're about to hit a pretty good stretch...
Browns, a shaky Tom Brady, Cincy, Favre & the fumbliest RB around, a bye, Denver, then Cincy and Cleveland again.
Playoff matchups: Detroit, Chicago, and Pittsburgh, with the sackiest QB around. If your playoffs go to week 17, they face Oakland.
They're a start for every game except facing Indy and Green Bay.
Browns, a shaky Tom Brady, Cincy, Favre & the fumbliest RB around, a bye, Denver, then Cincy and Cleveland again.
Playoff matchups: Detroit, Chicago, and Pittsburgh, with the sackiest QB around. If your playoffs go to week 17, they face Oakland.
They're a start for every game except facing Indy and Green Bay.
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Brady sure didn't look shaky in the second half of the Bills game.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
He's still stepping gingerly in the pocket, but I haven't watched every down. Looks like he's still a bit afraid of getting that leg hit. His mechanics are not back to form, and if a few guys get to him early, he could definitely regress more. Baltimore is the perfect team to upset his poise and get him off balance.But I could see one might hesitate to start the D when they're facing NE. Even so, the rest of the schedule is cake until week 11.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
I think we're gonna see more vanilla this week, GB. I doubt if they're too worried about Brady Quinn sustaining any long drives against them. They'll lay back, give the besieged corners some help and try to keep from giving up the big play.Of course, as soon as I predict this, Brady Quinn turns into Peyton Manning and hangs 30 on 'em.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Agreed. Hopefully, we'll see the DL get some more pressure on their own. My biggest issue with the non-attacking style is that it takes some of Reed's skills out of play - both as a ball hawk & also as a blitzer. Reed isn't a great in-the-box run stopper. He shines more, IMO, when it's helter-skelter.
Well, in my opinion, its not Brady so much as his O-line and the play calling. Is Brady somewhat tentative with his leg? Sure. However, most other QBs playing behind that O-line would look much worse than he has. Plus, they abandon the run early for some unknown reason. Its not like they don't have capable backs to pound out the yards. Brady definitely wasn't sharp against the Jets, but I have a feeling that the line will get things going and return to torching defenses. I think you'll see a difference this week.He's still stepping gingerly in the pocket, but I haven't watched every down. Looks like he's still a bit afraid of getting that leg hit. His mechanics are not back to form, and if a few guys get to him early, he could definitely regress more. Baltimore is the perfect team to upset his poise and get him off balance.But I could see one might hesitate to start the D when they're facing NE. Even so, the rest of the schedule is cake until week 11.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
drcrappants
Footballguy
how is baltimore going to handle moss in wk4? we saw what vjax did to their midget corners.
(unwelcomed)GUEST
Footballguy
They're going to need help over the top from Landry/Reed. The difference between NE and SD is that NE has one big speedy WR, NE had three, Gates and Sproles out of the backfield. Washington and Foxworth will do a better job with an aging Galloway and Welker...Foxworth and Washington can run with the undersized rec. A few things to note, in the SD game Landry freakin layed Ed Reed out and Ed is playing cautiously with the neck injury as it is. Reed didn't really look right after that 1st half hit. Also if you don't think Bmore is bringing heat on the QB, ask Rivers how he felt Monday morning, shoot, Tuesday morning getting out of bed. The pressure was there, Rivers just did a nice job getting rid of the ball when it was coming. Also not making excuses for Bmore or saying that giving up 200yds to WRs is a good thing but, 200 of those 400+ yds through the air came from Sproles and Gates. Sproles is probably the best rec RB in the NFL and Gates is a damn good TE. NE doesn't have a TE or a collective group of TEs that equal Gates's ability as a receiver and while Faulk has his moments and is a very good third down back, he ain't in Sproles's league as a rec threat. Time will tell with NE. Keep the Bmore defense at least for a few more weeks unless they're trade bait that's really going to improve your team. During those weeks pay attention to the safety play, they're the key to this defense becoming elite again. If they can't do a better job in coverage, the Bmore Team D is middle-of-the-pack/weekly match-up fodder fantasy wise. They're slightly worse if you play D/ST combined 'cause their return game is awful.
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