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Bank Robbery Suspect shot by Customer (1 Viewer)

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In a class by himself
Someone said this didn't happen very often, but it does in red areas.

Detectives with the Spokane Valley Police Department are still searching for the man who robbed Spokane Teachers Credit Union Thursday afternoon. 

Detectives say an armed man walked into the bank, jumped the counter and demanded money. During the robbery, an armed citizen drew a concealed gun he was legally carrying and fired at the robber. The suspect fled the bank and was last seen running north. A perimeter was quickly set up, but the suspect was not found. 

Armed bank robbery in Spokane Valley STCU; Suspect shot by bank customer

Detectives believe the suspect was hit by the gunfire based on witness accounts and blood at the scene. 

The suspect is described as a white male, 5’08”-5’10”, 160 pounds, wearing a gray sweatshirt with red writing (Washington State University) on the front.  He was also wearing black gloves, black pants with white stripping on the side, a light colored boonie style hat and a blue bandana covering his face.   

The citizen who fired his weapon was advised of his rights and sought the advice of legal counsel.  He, with the assistance of his lawyer, spoke with investigators at the scene.

No one else was injured in the incident. 

Anyone with information regarding this incident or can help investigators identify this suspect is urged to call 911.        
A shame that one needs a lawyer after doing a good deed though.

 
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Someone said this didn't happen very poften, but it does in red areas.

A ahame that one needs a lawyer after doing a good deed though.
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I look forward to a time when each person consults their lawyer before any decision starting with what to wear in the morning to which stall to use for a mid-morning dump, right on through to whether they ought to bed the skank they are hitting on in the bar after work.  We lawyers are loveable, cuddly, and should be an essential part of your day.  Hire us now.  Keep us on speed dial.  We will be happy to work out an automatic withdrawal from your accounts to our trust accounts so we are perpetually on retainer.  I can tell you there is nothing that gets the ladies hotter than knowing you have one of us on perpetual retainer.  You want some guaranteed leg tonight, hire one of us today.  The higher the pay rate the better the strange.
All I ever needed was prepaid legal.

 
Unlikely. He didn't even kill the robber and he had an incredibly clear shot. 
It's fortunate this one turned out OK.  But it was possible this could have resulted in an exchange of gunfire.  I just read what was posted in the brief article, but bank robbers almost always want to be quickly in and out without hurting anyone.  Shooting at the robber increases danger to everyone present.  If I were at that credit union, I wouldn't want anyone to try to be a hero. 

 
The robber had a weapon.  When you threaten people with a weapon, it's not just money at risk.
Exactly.  You have no idea what his intentions are.  When you threaten peoples' lives in such a matter, you don't get the benefit of the doubt. 

 
It's fortunate this one turned out OK.  But it was possible this could have resulted in an exchange of gunfire.  I just read what was posted in the brief article, but bank robbers almost always want to be quickly in and out without hurting anyone.  Shooting at the robber increases danger to everyone present.  If I were at that credit union, I wouldn't want anyone to try to be a hero. 
With the shot he had, he could have hit him center mass and killed him. In the same situation, I probably would have. As to not hurting someone, if you're carrying a gun into a bank robbery, you are at least threatening to do harm. Nice try, but poor logic.

 
Exactly.  You have no idea what his intentions are.  When you threaten peoples' lives in such a matter, you don't get the benefit of the doubt. 
That's not really the point though. Of course the robber deserves to die, no question. The only question is whether the guy who pulled his gun and shot down the robber made the situation safer or more dangerous. 

It seems like in this case it made the situation safer. But there are other instances in which this could make the situation more dangerous. I don't think there's a set rule. 

 
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With the shot he had, he could have hit him center mass and killed him. In the same situation, I probably would have. As to not hurting someone, if you're carrying a gun into a bank robbery, you are at least threatening to do harm. Nice try, but poor logic.
You have two different concepts.

1) The shooter could have gotten other people killed, as no shooting had occurred until he shot. true.

2) The robber deserved to be shot as he was threatening people with a gun. true.

 
With the shot he had, he could have hit him center mass and killed him. In the same situation, I probably would have. As to not hurting someone, if you're carrying a gun into a bank robbery, you are at least threatening to do harm. Nice try, but poor logic.
 He shot the robber but didn't even hurt him enough where he couldn't get away.  Everyone is lucky the robber didn't return fire. 

 
I'd be open to the government doing some research and studies on both concealed permit crime rates and heavily restrictive gun control. Don't see how that ever happens but it'd be interesting to study results. 

 
With the shot he had, he could have hit him center mass and killed him. In the same situation, I probably would have. As to not hurting someone, if you're carrying a gun into a bank robbery, you are at least threatening to do harm. Nice try, but poor logic.
What's the point of not nailing him?  

 
 He shot the robber but didn't even hurt him enough where he couldn't get away.  Everyone is lucky the robber didn't return fire. 
Especially the robber. Had he turned to return fire, the shooter would have gotten off another shot. The shooter's intent obviously was not to kill, but had the robber turned, it was like 15 feet - the robber would have no chance to aim and fire. None.

 
That's not really the point though. Of course the robber deserves to die, no question. The only question is whether the guy who pulled his gun and shot down the robber made the situation safer or more dangerous. 

It seems like in this case it made the situation safer. But there are other instances in which this could make the situation more dangerous. I don't think there's a set rule. 
It's very rare for there to be violence in a bank robbery.  I think TV shows give people a warped view on things.  The "rule" is to comply with the robber's request so he will be on his way.  People trying to be heroes can make the situation more dangerous. Every credible law enforcement expert agrees with this. There can be situations where the "rule" should be broken but these are incredibly unusual.

 
At our credit union it is advised to follow the robber's instructions. Less conflict, less chance someone is hurt or killed. 

Most likely the concealed carry person should not have had the weapon in the credit union either. I would be surprised if they didn't have "No Weapons" signs posted. 

The average take in a robbery is also less than people think. On average this type of robbery is probably less than 2 large. 

 
At our credit union it is advised to follow the robber's instructions. Less conflict, less chance someone is hurt or killed. 

Most likely the concealed carry person should not have had the weapon in the credit union either. I would be surprised if they didn't have "No Weapons" signs posted. 

The average take in a robbery is also less than people think. On average this type of robbery is probably less than 2 large. 
But then you let the guy go and he ends up car-jacking your wife in the parking lot who was waiting for you to return, the armed robber shoots her in the head and kills her. And you could have stopped him...

 
 I phrased that poorly.  Sometimes people want to stop the robber at great risks because of the money.  Peoples lives and safety is what's truly important, not whether the robber gets away with the money. That's what I meant.

 
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But then you let the guy go and he ends up car-jacking your wife in the parking lot who was waiting for you to return, the armed robber shoots her in the head and kills her. And you could have stopped him...
yeah no. way more likely somebody gets hurt in the bank thanks to Cletus Bronson not just getting out of the way and letting the guy get on his way. Not that most using a gun to commit a crime don't deserve to get shot. Because they do.

 
The problem is most people who carry guns aren't equipped to use them correctly, as this case proves.

If someone pulls their gun to shoot a "bad" guy, they better be trained enough to disable the target.  This vigalante bozo panicked and created a situation where the robber could have started shooting people after he was shot.

 
The problem is most people who carry guns aren't equipped to use them correctly, as this case proves.

If someone pulls their gun to shoot a "bad" guy, they better be trained enough to disable the target.  This vigalante bozo panicked and created a situation where the robber could have started shooting people after he was shot.
No evidence he panicked at all.

 
If given the choice, does anybody here prefer to be unarmed when an armed robber presents himself in a situation like this?  

 
If given the choice, does anybody here prefer to be unarmed when an armed robber presents himself in a situation like this?  
I think the whole point is we don't need moron sidearm carrying morons applying justice to things that 99.9% of humans never encounter.  Go ahead and try to wrap your head around that, Louisiana. 

 
I think the whole point is we don't need moron sidearm carrying morons applying justice to things that 99.9% of humans never encounter.  Go ahead and try to wrap your head around that, Louisiana. 
Did I hit a nerve there, sport?  Wasn't trying to.  You seem angry. Try answering the question next time, or just move along.  If that doesn't work for you, then try not to be completely illiterate when you call someone a moron.

 
I think the whole point is we don't need moron sidearm carrying morons applying justice to things that 99.9% of humans never encounter.  Go ahead and try to wrap your head around that, Louisiana. 
Did I hit a nerve there, sport?  Wasn't trying to.  You seem angry. Try answering the question next time, or just move along.  If that doesn't work for you, then try not to be completely illiterate when you call someone a moron.
Didn't call you a moron billy, and it's funny a guy from the state with the worst schools in the country would call anyone illiterate.  :bye:  

 
Didn't call you a moron billy, and it's funny a guy from the state with the worst schools in the country would call anyone illiterate.  :bye:  
I get it.  You know the answer to my question, and it bothers you, so you chose not to answer it.  Of course you'd rather have a gun in that scenario.  Everybody would.  No matter how unlikely it is to happen, It's the only reasonable response.  But that doesn't fit your anti gun narrative, so you lash out at me and the entire state of Louisiana.   You also slurred your words when you did it, and looked a little foolish.  Sorry to get you so upset.  Your state is awesome.  Whichever one it is.

 

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