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Sorry for the disappearance. If I'm not home at 1AM when PinPoint runs every night, I usually don't get a chance to post plays. Tonight was a nice night, though, as all 3 formulas picked some combination of Texas, Kansas City, and Colorado -- all 3 won. Anyway, here are PinPoint's updated totals along with tomorrow's picks:

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Formula 1: (10-8) (+234)Formula 2: (13-10) (+521)Formula 3: (11-11) (+84)TEAM           LINE       F1           F2           F3Oakland        -111       Strong       Good         CrazyKansas City    +160       Strong       Good         CrazyTampa Bay      +160       Weak         Good         WeakWashington     +143       Good         Good         StrongSan Diego      -113       Strong       Good         StrongLA Dodgers     +113       Weak         Weak         WeakDetroit        -114       Weak                      WeakTexas          -184                    Weak         Boston         +142                                 Weak
 
Tonight I'm all over Oswalt -155.  A few reasons why:

1-SF just played a night game in Philly.  Probably just flew in this morning.  I kind of doubt Bonds will be playing (at least per a few sites I've read) and the rest of the team had just flown 5+ hours.

2-Houston just got swept at Colorado.  No way this team wants to go down 4 in a row.

3-Alou is DL'd.

4-Lowry's first start after a lengthy DL stint

5-Roy Oswalt is the man.  Who is he going to fear in a SF lineup without Alou or Bonds?

HEAVY chalk here, and I really hate laying this much chalk on the road, but with one of the games premier pitchers going against a beat up offense I think the price is right here.  I'm on it for 3.5 units.

Also played Weaver +163 for a unit.  Halladay has not been dominant this year at all.  The Angels are 14-18 and need to start winning.  Weaver is one of those pitchers who usually keeps you in the game, and if the Angels can get to Halladay early, or get into the Jays bullpen, I love their chances.  Value is here so I'll take a nibble.

g'luck

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:X This hurt a bit.

 
Tuesday Plays:

LA Dodgers +105- taking the home team with plus juice, Astros on 4 game losing streak, Dodgers coming off sweep of Brew Crew. Dodgers hitting lefties at a much better clip than righties and Pettite is struggling. I know Seo is not good but I don't think the Stros should be favored here, not the way they are playing right now.

Twins-Rangers UNDER 10 +105- Seems like a lot of runs as Millwood pitched a gem in his last performance. We know the Twinkies aren't going to put a ton of runs on the board and if Carlos Silva can just not completely blow up, this has a good chance of going UNDER 10.

 
And in case you need plays for tomorrow...

Early Tuesday plays, lines I think are off - all at Pinny:

Phils +132 15/19.80

Phils RL -126 15/11.90

Dodgers +113 15/16.95

Dodgers RL -148 15/10.14

Baltimore +107 20/21.40

Toronto -104 15/14.42

Minny +170 15/25.50

Minny RL 20/16.13

I love Minny tomorrow against Millwood. He's overvalued here. I figured the Phils and Mets would be close to even, but Pedro is a public pitcher. I think the Dodgers should be the favorite at home against Pettitte with Seo on the hill and the same goes for Cabrera and the Orioles. I think Toronto should be -120.

If I was doing this for a living, I would play a sizeable chunk on Baltimore +107. Looks like a GREAT line as they might go off as the favorite. Huge scalp may be available.

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Nice prices here. :thumbup:
 
Nice call on SF O/U Marshall Plan. I didn't have Oswalt getting shelled like that and I didn't have the Gi's winning.

 
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Tuesday Plays:

LA Dodgers +105- taking the home team with plus juice, Astros on 4 game losing streak, Dodgers coming off sweep of Brew Crew.  Dodgers hitting lefties at a much better clip than righties and Pettite is struggling.  I know Seo is not good but I don't think the Stros should be favored here, not the way they are playing right now.

Twins-Rangers UNDER 10 +105- Seems like a lot of runs as Millwood pitched a gem in his last performance.  We know the Twinkies aren't going to put a ton of runs on the board and if Carlos Silva can just not completely blow up, this has a good chance of going UNDER 10.

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Tagging along with these.Also parlaying KC with LA Angels. I like Gregg and Affeldt tonight as big dogs.

 
Great example on how the total influences the RL here. Here's two different games tonight. Why is SD RL +211 and Toronto RL +201? Anyone want to take a stab at it, it's very basic:

Oakland Athletics

D. Haren RL: +1.5 -221 ML: -117 OVER 10 -113

Toronto Blue Jays

J. Towers RL: -1.5 +201 ML: +109 UNDER 10 +103

Milwaukee Brewers

D. Davis RL: +1.5 -231 ML: -104 OVER 7.5 +104

San Diego Padres

C. Hensley RL: -1.5 +211 ML: -104 UNDER 7.5 -114

 
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Nice call on SF O/U Marshall Plan. I didn't have Oswalt getting shelled like that and I didn't have the Gi's winning.

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Thanks, now what is this "betting searcher" I am? Is it good or bad? TIA.
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Oh, no. It's a good thing. I was just impressed with how many lines you had thrown out there to bump the thread. I think it should be a top thread always this time of the year. I only like to throw out one or two at a time as I've been keeping a running record since August '05. If I go with to many bets, I tend to slip. 63.5% and up +135.31 units Aug. '05- April '06

 
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Great example on how the total influences the RL here.  Here's two different games tonight.  Why is SD RL +211 and Toronto RL +201?  Anyone want to take a stab at it, it's very basic:

Oakland Athletics

D. Haren  RL:  +1.5 -221      ML:  -117        OVER 10 -113 

Toronto Blue Jays

J. Towers  RL:  -1.5 +201      ML:  +109      UNDER 10 +103 

Milwaukee Brewers

D. Davis  RL:  +1.5 -231      ML:  -104      OVER 7.5 +104 

San Diego Padres

C. Hensley  RL:  -1.5 +211      ML:  -104      UNDER 7.5 -114

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The fewer runs that are scored (or are predicted to be scored, the harder to win by more than one)...Or to put it another way, a two run victory (i.e. winning a RL bet) requires scoring a higher %age of the game's total runs the lower the total goes...

 
Nice call on SF O/U Marshall Plan. I didn't have Oswalt getting shelled like that and I didn't have the Gi's winning.

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Thanks, now what is this "betting searcher" I am? Is it good or bad? TIA.
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Oh, no. It's a good thing. I was just impressed with how many lines you had thrown out there to bump the thread. I think it should be a top thread always this time of the year. I only like to throw out one or two at a time as I've been keeping a running record since August '05. If I go with to many bets, I tend to slip. 63.5% and up +135.31 units Aug. '05- April '06

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VERY impressive win percentage, but something tells me you aren't up 135 units by playing public chalk like Houston and the Chi Sox...I've always wondered whether it would be better to play 1-2 games a day or to play many games a day. Who does better? The slow and steady guy playing his best bets or the guy who grabs numbers, scalps, and finds rouge numbers.

Since this thread is very dry, let's have a fun, little contest from this date forward.

I'll post ALL of my baseball plays. We can only use Pinny and Mansion - two great books with very good prices generally. If you would like another book then let me know. At the end of the year we will see which way to bet is better.

Since you are up 135 units I'll set the odds at:

Marshallplan +200 :excited:

Gamejockey -190

Any takers? Something makes me think I'll get bet down hard, very hard.

Edited to add - we should both start with a certain bankroll, whatever it may be. Doesn't matter to me. $10 or $1 million - same thing.

 
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Great example on how the total influences the RL here.  Here's two different games tonight.  Why is SD RL +211 and Toronto RL +201?  Anyone want to take a stab at it, it's very basic:

Oakland Athletics

D. Haren   RL:  +1.5 -221       ML:  -117        OVER 10 -113  

Toronto Blue Jays

J. Towers   RL:  -1.5 +201       ML:  +109       UNDER 10 +103 

Milwaukee Brewers

D. Davis   RL:  +1.5 -231      ML:  -104       OVER 7.5 +104 

San Diego Padres

C. Hensley   RL:  -1.5 +211      ML:  -104       UNDER 7.5 -114

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The fewer runs that are scored (or are predicted to be scored, the harder to win by more than one)...Or to put it another way, a two run victory (i.e. winning a RL bet) requires scoring a higher %age of the game's total runs the lower the total goes...

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Correct - that was too easy. I had already basically given the answer on my previous posts.
 
Mixing the Mavs with 5 MLB offerings:

Mavs +130

Rockies +240

Brewers -103

Astros -111

Royals +150

D Rays +167

22 to win 4463

 
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More for Wednesday:

Cubs -119 (Pinny) 15/12.61 - if they win tonight, this will look even better.

Nationals +147 (Pinny) 10/14.70

Nats RL -140 (Pinny) 10/7.14

Minny +151 (Pinny) 10/15.10

Minny RL -133 (Pinny) 10/7.52

Toronto -127 (Pinny) 15/11.81

 
And in case you need plays for tomorrow...

Early Tuesday plays, lines I think are off - all at Pinny:

Phils +132 15/19.80

Phils RL -126 15/11.90

Dodgers +113 15/16.95

Dodgers RL -148 15/10.14

Baltimore +107 20/21.40

Toronto -104 15/14.42

Minny +170 15/25.50

Minny RL 20/16.13

I love Minny tomorrow against Millwood. He's overvalued here. I figured the Phils and Mets would be close to even, but Pedro is a public pitcher. I think the Dodgers should be the favorite at home against Pettitte with Seo on the hill and the same goes for Cabrera and the Orioles. I think Toronto should be -120.

If I was doing this for a living, I would play a sizeable chunk on Baltimore +107. Looks like a GREAT line as they might go off as the favorite. Huge scalp may be available.

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Not a bad day here.
 
YTD: 25-28-2 -5.11u

MIN/TEX U11 +109

Lohse is pitching to keep his job in the rotation today so I'm hoping for a decent outing (likely a mistake). If Padilla can keep Hunter and Cuddy's bats under control it should limit the Twins to their normal run output.

 
Some more:

Tampa +112 (Mansion) 15/16.80

Parlay: Tampa +108/Over 8 -120 (hate this play, but I made it). (Pinny) 7/25.03

Parlay: O's +111/Under 9.5 -113 (Pinny) 7/20.84

O's +112 (Mansion) 15/16.80

Tampa RL -199 (Mansion) 15/7.54

Arizona -145 (Mansion) 15/10.34

Royals +156 (Mansion) 15/23.40

Parlay: Royals +148/Under 9.5 -111 (Pinny) GB exchanges, terrible number on KC. 7/26

 
Well, I had an interesting ride last night.

The Twins single handedly killed the Under bet by the 2nd inning (when's the last time you could say that about this hapless Twins team???) and my ML Parlay with the Royals was destroyed when the Angels showed up at the ballpark.

So I had only the Dodgers left going and instead of sitting still, I parlayed them with the Brewers for $25, took the Giants RL +105 for another unit and enjoyed the rest of the night. :thumbup:

I like 4 games today and might try a RR Parlay with them as well as playing them straight.

Schilling +112 (he's either going to get killed after his comments about the NY Media or back it up strong. I'm betting the latter)

Kazmir +109 (Moyer is good for 4 runs a game almost always. I think Kazmir can do better)

Verlander -117 (I like the Tigers to take down Baltimore)

Haeger -122 (ML Debut for the knuckleballer for the White Sox...odd that he's favored like this, but he's dominated the minor leagues and I think the Angels are on full tilt)

 
Thursday plays:

Reds/Nats Under 9.5 +106 (Pinny) 15/15.90 - I had this at 8-8.5. u10-113 was Pinny's opening number, this is the same thing.

Orioles look to be the play for me. Opened at -104 and now +100. I'll wait.

Pirates +112 (Pinny) 15/16.80 - thought Perez would be the favorite. The public should move this to -120 or so.

Nats +162 (Pinny) 15/24.30 - Arroyo > Day - but just by a little to me. Total should move down, so we'll jump on the RL as soon as its posted.

Oakland +137 (Pinny) 15/20.55 - Oakland looks nice at this price to me.

Atlanta/Florida Under 8.5 -111 (Pinny) 15/13.51 - I had this at 7.5. Two good pitchers, in the big ballpark.

That's it for now.

 
1-1 last night..

Today I like the Dodgers-Astros OVER 7.5 -120- This total seems pretty low to me especially with Tomko on the mound, he could blow up at any time. Houston's bullpen is getting beat up too.

Also on the Chicago Cubs (zambrano) -110 to take out the Giants.

 
I like 4 games today and might try a RR Parlay with them as well as playing them straight.

Schilling +112 (he's either going to get killed after his comments about the NY Media or back it up strong.  I'm betting the latter)

Kazmir +109 (Moyer is good for 4 runs a game almost always.  I think Kazmir can do better)

Verlander -117 (I like the Tigers to take down Baltimore)

Haeger -122 (ML Debut for the knuckleballer for the White Sox...odd that he's favored like this, but he's dominated the minor leagues and I think the Angels are on full tilt)

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1 in the bag and a lead in two more. I took each for 1 unit and made a parlay of these 4 for 10 bucks. I sure hope Sammy Haeger lays off the tequilla and pitches his asssssssss off tonight. :thumbup:

 
1-1 last night..

Today I like the Dodgers-Astros OVER 7.5 -120-  This total seems pretty low to me especially with Tomko on the mound, he could blow up at any time.  Houston's bullpen is getting beat up too.

Also on the Chicago Cubs (zambrano) -110 to take out the Giants.

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$$$$$2-0 last night. That Dodger total was a joke, they doubled the total.

 
Split last night and lost the parlay. Lost 12 bucks on the night.

Day game action...

Oakland +135

Arizona -127

$10 parlay to win $37

Oakland with Over 9.5

Ted Lilly splits indicate he's been historically poor during day starts, while Saarloos has actually been better under the sun. Seems like the bats heated up last night and I expect them to continue to thunder in early action.

Also, I'm going to short Oliver Perez as long as Pittsburgh trots him out to the mound. He's a mess right now.

 
VERY impressive win percentage, but something tells me you aren't up 135 units by playing public chalk like Houston and the Chi Sox...

I've always wondered whether it would be better to play 1-2 games a day or to play many games a day. Who does better? The slow and steady guy playing his best bets or the guy who grabs numbers, scalps, and finds rouge numbers.

Since this thread is very dry, let's have a fun, little contest from this date forward.

I'll post ALL of my baseball plays. We can only use Pinny and Mansion - two great books with very good prices generally. If you would like another book then let me know. At the end of the year we will see which way to bet is better.

Since you are up 135 units I'll set the odds at:

Marshallplan +200 :excited:

Gamejockey -190

Any takers? Something makes me think I'll get bet down hard, very hard.

Edited to add - we should both start with a certain bankroll, whatever it may be. Doesn't matter to me. $10 or $1 million - same thing.
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Here's the break down. Sorry I can't give you the individual bets, but you can go to my blog and run through the archive and they are all at the bottom of the daily post. There is a link in my signature...Starting August '05:

Aug: 68% +24.38

Sept: 73% +17.88

Oct: 65% +14.11

Nov: 64% +19.37

Dec: 69% +7.41

Jan: 55% +26.12

Feb: 52% +9.54

Mar: 62% +6.10

Apr: 64% +10.40

May: 82% +6.46 (so far)

Love to have you wager in the fantasy sportsbook and I can offer you bets and vice-versa(sp?)

 
VERY impressive win percentage, but something tells me you aren't up 135 units by playing public chalk like Houston and the Chi Sox...

I've always wondered whether it would be better to play 1-2 games a day or to play many games a day.  Who does better?  The slow and steady guy playing his best bets or the guy who grabs numbers, scalps, and finds rouge numbers. 

Since this thread is very dry, let's have a fun, little contest from this date forward. 

I'll post ALL of my baseball plays.  We can only use Pinny and Mansion - two great books with very good prices generally.  If you would like another book then let me know.  At the end of the year we will see which way to bet is better. 

Since you are up 135 units I'll set the odds at:

Marshallplan +200     :excited:

Gamejockey -190

Any takers?  Something makes me think I'll get bet down hard, very hard.

Edited to add - we should both start with a certain bankroll, whatever it may be.  Doesn't matter to me.  $10 or $1 million - same thing.
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Here's the break down. Sorry I can't give you the individual bets, but you can go to my blog and run through the archive and they are all at the bottom of the daily post. There is a link in my signature...Starting August '05:

Aug: 68% +24.38

Sept: 73% +17.88

Oct: 65% +14.11

Nov: 64% +19.37

Dec: 69% +7.41

Jan: 55% +26.12

Feb: 52% +9.54

Mar: 62% +6.10

Apr: 64% +10.40

May: 82% +6.46 (so far)

Love to have you wager in the fantasy sportsbook and I can offer you bets and vice-versa(sp?)
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So, let's get this straight. This book isn't even a real gambling book? You wager with points? And listing those percentages makes you look like a tout. Your WORST month was 52% - that's a joke.

I'm wondering if you are a tout or someone just looking to have fun and make "fake" bets?

Anytime you want to step up to the plate and posts your plays against mine feel free. It will be easy to see those percentages are off.

If you want to use a real sportsbook then I'm ready for the challenge. I'm more confident after you posted those percentages. I'm intrigued by this "fantasy sportsbook" is the Mavs/Spurs line Mavs -10? Is this how you look so good?

The odds are now:

Marshallplan +150

Gamejockey -140

I'm still trying to figure out whether you are serious with this whole thing. Seems like an alias is trying to stir something up with me... :lmao:

 
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VERY impressive win percentage, but something tells me you aren't up 135 units by playing public chalk like Houston and the Chi Sox...

I've always wondered whether it would be better to play 1-2 games a day or to play many games a day. Who does better? The slow and steady guy playing his best bets or the guy who grabs numbers, scalps, and finds rouge numbers.

Since this thread is very dry, let's have a fun, little contest from this date forward.

I'll post ALL of my baseball plays. We can only use Pinny and Mansion - two great books with very good prices generally. If you would like another book then let me know. At the end of the year we will see which way to bet is better.

Since you are up 135 units I'll set the odds at:

Marshallplan +200 :excited:

Gamejockey -190

Any takers? Something makes me think I'll get bet down hard, very hard.

Edited to add - we should both start with a certain bankroll, whatever it may be. Doesn't matter to me. $10 or $1 million - same thing.
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Here's the break down. Sorry I can't give you the individual bets, but you can go to my blog and run through the archive and they are all at the bottom of the daily post. There is a link in my signature...Starting August '05:

Aug: 68% +24.38

Sept: 73% +17.88

Oct: 65% +14.11

Nov: 64% +19.37

Dec: 69% +7.41

Jan: 55% +26.12

Feb: 52% +9.54

Mar: 62% +6.10

Apr: 64% +10.40

May: 82% +6.46 (so far)

Love to have you wager in the fantasy sportsbook and I can offer you bets and vice-versa(sp?)
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So, let's get this straight. This book isn't even a real gambling book? You wager with points? And listing those percentages makes you look like a tout. Your WORST month was 52% - that's a joke.

I'm wondering if you are a tout or someone just looking to have fun and make "fake" bets?

Anytime you want to step up to the plate and posts your plays against mine feel free. It will be easy to see those percentages are off.

If you want to use a real sportsbook then I'm ready for the challenge. I'm more confident after you posted those percentages. I'm intrigued by this "fantasy sportsbook" is the Mavs/Spurs line Mavs -10? Is this how you look so good?

The odds are now:

Marshallplan +150

Gamejockey -140

I'm still trying to figure out whether you are serious with this whole thing. Seems like an alias is trying to stir something up with me... :lmao:
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Check the posts, this is no lie. Here, I'll help and they are from Don Best through pinny. You shut me down, but you don't know. I'll take your challenge. I'll send you screen shot of every bet, every day since Aug. and sure, fine, I'm touting, whatever you want. No alias. Used to be pretty active on football guys during the NFL season and incorrectly posted my units once and got reemed by some #####. So I left the FBG, but I got over it and now I have your motor to deal with. They are real lines, real wagers- get it. Don't argue with me, if you got beef look it up. Marshall: +200

Gamejockey99:-150

 
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