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Beanie Wells vs. Houston wk 5 (1 Viewer)

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Been holding this guy and hoping to see some life out of him this season. He's got a chance this week due to the matchup and I'm thinking he can get in and impress. Coming off the bye week is it likely the Cards give him more of a look?

This should be the start of him unseating Hightower if it's going to happen at all this season. Thoughts?

 
If he's on the field, he tears it up. I had picked this game as the week Beanie started getting a lot more carries in the offseason (coming off the bye) and hope that is the case. I guess we'll see. His pass protection has been poor and the rumors are that is why he hasn't been on the field more to date.

 
If the Cards' game plan on offense is as bad as it was against the Colts, Wells won't do squat.

 
There is no way I could justify starting Wells this week unless I had almost no other options. Maybe he will break out, but I'd have to see it before I'd start him. You can't just throw a guy who has done absolutely nothing into your lineup just because you think this may the week he does.

 
Resident A said:
There is no way I could justify starting Wells this week unless I had almost no other options. Maybe he will break out, but I'd have to see it before I'd start him. You can't just throw a guy who has done absolutely nothing into your lineup just because you think this may the week he does.
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:shrug: Only way I would start Wells (if i owned him) would be if the Houston Defense was suspended and Houston had to hire replacement players for this weekends game.....who all happened to be midgets.......with 1 leg.....and blind.
 
I agree with the original poster, he got the Darnell Jefferson treatment (the program movie) and is a lock for 12 carries this week. 12 for 105 and a Td.

 
Just traded for him and felt this was the time to get him before his value starts shooting upward. I certainly won't be starting him though, until he shows something on the field.

 
I drafted Wells in 4 out of 5 leagues. In 3 of those 4, I dropped him this week because of injury and bye week replacements.

I was as high on him as anyone, but cannot afford to let him fumble away my season.

If he is still a free agent after this week, I will consider picking him back up (barring new injuries and bye weeks). But with the information we have at hand, I believe I made solid decisions.

 
I pretty much agree with the others. Hightower will see most of the action, but there is a small chance Beanie could get in and do some damage. If you are starting him you are in big trouble this week.

 
Do people realize that Hightower is the starter. ANd the issue with Wells is that he supposedly does not know the offense well, he cant pass block for squat and when he is in there Warner can get killed. Sure he is a better pure runner then Hightower but for fantasy purposes Hightower is better then Wells. Hightower is a great option any week becasue he is a recieving back on a passing team. He is I believe the leading back in relation to receptions. I own both Wells and Hightower and have no concern for which one is the man BUT i am starting Hightower this week and I would not start Wells under any conditions unless I had no other option.

 
I read if Arizona gets a lead, they will go to Wells. If they are behind by a lot, like they were vs. Indy, Wells will not play. So if they go up early on Houston at home after the bye, which certainly seems plausible, I could see him breaking it open and having a good week. Huge gamble. But probably less than McFadden was at this time last week...

 
comfortably numb said:
Resident A said:
There is no way I could justify starting Wells this week unless I had almost no other options. Maybe he will break out, but I'd have to see it before I'd start him. You can't just throw a guy who has done absolutely nothing into your lineup just because you think this may the week he does.
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:goodposting: Only way I would start Wells (if i owned him) would be if the Houston Defense was suspended and Houston had to hire replacement players for this weekends game.....who all happened to be midgets.......with 1 leg.....and blind.
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:lol: So what you are saying is there IS a chance ....

 
thriftyrocker said:
I read if Arizona gets a lead, they will go to Wells. If they are behind by a lot, like they were vs. Indy, Wells will not play. So if they go up early on Houston at home after the bye, which certainly seems plausible, I could see him breaking it open and having a good week. Huge gamble. But probably less than McFadden was at this time last week...
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Do you have a link? I have not heard that.But then again, I don't expect AZ to get a big lead in this game either.
 
damageinc said:
Do people realize that Hightower is the starter. ANd the issue with Wells is that he supposedly does not know the offense well
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TRUE--Coach has said he's missed out on learning some of their passing plays and formations.
damageinc said:
he cant pass block for squat
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??? Big leap--True, he's hardly been in on any passing plays, but that's because he hasn't learned them yet--not because he can't block for squat. Actually, I've seen him block just fine at least once this year. I haven't seen him miss any blocks, and I haven't seen anyone here on the board mention any specific plays where he has missed a block, either. As for who's the better option, I agree with the posters above that if the Cardinals are down, Hightower is the man to play. If they have a lead, Wells very well could see lots of time in the second half. Since it's Houston, nobody should be surprised if he gets 15 carries.
 
With these 2 offenses, this game is very likely to end up a shootout. Hightower is a very solid start this week.

 
I think Hightower is the play here... esp in ppr... He stays in to pass block and release for short catches, and Arz isn't going to put Warner in harms way at all so they have to be real comfortable with Wells before he's used in that capacity... I hate to do it-- but I'm thinkng of benching SJax 4 for hightower.

 
Good discussion. Lots of folks really down on Wells- might mean it's time to load up :( ???

The dissenting opinions make sense but something tells me he will get his looks this week and will produce.

 
I think this is the week Wells will see his most action. The Cards have got to get some kind of running game going and Hightower is not getting it done.

 
strong said:
damageinc said:
Do people realize that Hightower is the starter. ANd the issue with Wells is that he supposedly does not know the offense well
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TRUE--Coach has said he's missed out on learning some of their passing plays and formations.
damageinc said:
he cant pass block for squat
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??? Big leap--True, he's hardly been in on any passing plays, but that's because he hasn't learned them yet--not because he can't block for squat. Actually, I've seen him block just fine at least once this year. I haven't seen him miss any blocks, and I haven't seen anyone here on the board mention any specific plays where he has missed a block, either. As for who's the better option, I agree with the posters above that if the Cardinals are down, Hightower is the man to play. If they have a lead, Wells very well could see lots of time in the second half. Since it's Houston, nobody should be surprised if he gets 15 carries.
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I don't have a link because it was on the radio, but Rob Moore (Cards analyst and ex-player) said that the reason Beanie wasn't in the game last week was because he can not pass block and does not know the schemes. The best link I can find is on the Cards forums - someone else posting about the same conversation. link (sort of)

 
I THINK Beanie will get touches this week, but I'm not gonna take the chance & start him. I still think he just isn't a good fit for AZ's current scheme/personnel. I also tend to think the best chance we Wells owners have is for AZ to fall out of the race & use Beanie the last month or so (the pessimist in me).

 
The Cardinals may use Wells more Sunday against Houston, according to the Cardinals' official site.

– The Cards may use Beanie Wells more Sunday (and it’s hard to think he won’t get more work than his two-carry game against the Colts) and Whisenhunt said — with a knowing smile, since he knows he says it often – that the Cards want more balance. But, he added with emphasis, “I’ll tell you this, if we come out and we are hitting on all cylinders in the pass game, we’re going to throw it.”

– Speaking of Beanie, if you talk to him, he doesn’t think he has any shortcomings in his game. There’s a fine line between confidence and, as my radio partner Bill Lewis likes to say, “not knowing what you don’t know.” Beanie is clearly frustrated that he isn’t getting much more time on the field (and yes, I know there are plenty of fans who agree with him).

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2009/10/09/fri...ore-the-texans/

"If they are not hitting on all cylinders" Bad Texans secondary + Warner + WR's = Little Wells impact. The situation he is in is not the right fit for a team that pass first and passes again, and maybe runs later

 
They should definately give more of a look than his last couple games. That isnt saying a whole lot though. Remember Wells started out getting near 50 percent of the carries. A week's extra practice and playing against a weak run D? He'll get some carries. Its still Arizona though and they just dont grind it out on the ground.

 
Da Guru said:
I think this is the week Wells will see his most action. The Cards have got to get some kind of running game going and Hightower is not getting it done.
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they've needed to get some kind of a running game going for as long as i can remember.IT'S NOT THE RUNNING BACK
 
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12338007

Reading this it does not sound like he gonna get all that many carries.

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Wells believes he has a firm grasp of the Arizona offense and belongs on the field, no matter the situation.

Whisenhunt has other thoughts.

"I'm sure he feels he can do everything and I'm not sitting here saying he can't," Whisenhunt said. "But it's just like we do with any young player. When they get to the point where they're ready to play then they'll play."

"When you miss four weeks of training camp where you're usually putting the work in and you've got three other [running backs] who did the work, you don't put a young guy in there and risk getting a QB hit," Whisenhunt said. "That's not what a coach does, at least not the ones I've been around.

"There's no difference just because Beanie was a first-round pick."

And the Cardinals love Wells' potential.

He is averaging 4.4 yards per carry on 16 attempts -- a full yard better than starter Tim Hightower -- and he looks on the verge of breaking big plays almost every time he touches the ball.

But the reason for that low number of attempts might be found in the other things Wells has done -- or hasn't done.

"The only issues we have are that some of our protection schemes, especially when we go to three and four receivers, are pretty complex and he hasn't had reps at that," Whisenhunt said. "To think that we're going to put him in a game where he has to cross the backfield and pick up a blitzer is not really logical."

t was assumed that Wells would use the Cardinals' now-concluded bye week to bone up on the things he had missed, but Wells said the bye week was no help.

"Not really," he said. "I didn't think I was too far behind when the season started anyway, and I'm caught up now."

 
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I just traded for Wells this past week.

Here's my reasoning:

Whisenhunt came from Pittsburgh. His background is smashmouth running football. But he's been smart enough to adjust to the players at his disposal - thus the emphasis on the passing game to date. But I believe they drafted Wells in the first round because they definitely want to establish that smashmouth running game and Wells has the size, power, and speed to allow for this.

Wells will be the guy by mid-season. Without a doubt. And while I'm not starting him this week, I do think there's a good chance I'll end up regretting it. Could I be wrong on all this? Sure. Time will tell, but I'm real confident in his prospects for the 2nd half of the season.

 
T J said:
I just traded for Wells this past week.

Here's my reasoning:

Whisenhunt came from Pittsburgh. His background is smashmouth running football. But he's been smart enough to adjust to the players at his disposal - thus the emphasis on the passing game to date. But I believe they drafted Wells in the first round because they definitely want to establish that smashmouth running game and Wells has the size, power, and speed to allow for this.

Wells will be the guy by mid-season. Without a doubt. And while I'm not starting him this week, I do think there's a good chance I'll end up regretting it. Could I be wrong on all this? Sure. Time will tell, but I'm real confident in his prospects for the 2nd half of the season.
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The bolded is true. He doesn't have the OL to run the ball very well.That's why they don't/can't run the ball very much/well..

Maybe that OL gets better @ midseason..maybe not.

Dynastywise, Beanie has value; in redraft hes a flyer.

 
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identikit said:
T J said:
I just traded for Wells this past week.

Here's my reasoning:

Whisenhunt came from Pittsburgh. His background is smashmouth running football. But he's been smart enough to adjust to the players at his disposal - thus the emphasis on the passing game to date. But I believe they drafted Wells in the first round because they definitely want to establish that smashmouth running game and Wells has the size, power, and speed to allow for this.

Wells will be the guy by mid-season. Without a doubt. And while I'm not starting him this week, I do think there's a good chance I'll end up regretting it. Could I be wrong on all this? Sure. Time will tell, but I'm real confident in his prospects for the 2nd half of the season.
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The bolded is true. He doesn't have the OL to run the ball very well.That's why they don't/can't run the ball very much/well..

Maybe that OL gets better @ midseason..maybe not.

Dynastywise, Beanie has value; in redraft hes a flyer.
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Is it the o-line, or the running backs? When Beanie has been in there he has had no problem breaking moving the chains on the ground.
 
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