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Just reported on ESPN radio...
The Jones situation is different. My understanding is that the Titans don't have to pay him a penny until camp starts next season. That's about 14 months for him to get his trials out of the way and try to learn to behave before they are obligated to do much more then get his jerseys out of their pro shop.That is going to hurt their chances of being a contender even more, but I can understand their reasoning. How far will Pacman have to go before he gets released?
They will have to fight the Raiders for himhow long until the Bengals pick him up?
depending on the details of this latest incident chances are he might not even play next year. For some reason he convinced me he had changed but I guess I was wrong.I honestly hope the Skins make a play for him. We need D-line bad enough that I'd put up with his shenanigans.
A team can cut a player anytime they want. The NFLPA has no grounds for a grievance, this wasn't a suspension without pay, it was a cut.It'll be interesting to see if the NFLPA does anything here. Supposedly the only criteria for cutting a dude is supposed to be talent now. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a grievance here (whether or not there should be)-QG
Link to quote-QGSgt. Andrew Duncan, a police spokesman, said Johnson was arrested for "DUI Impaired to the Slightest Degree" but was released without being booked or charged.
This is the reason these players have gotten away with so much over the years. I hope nobody picks him up.(HULK) said:I honestly hope the Skins make a play for him. We need D-line bad enough that I'd put up with his shenanigans.
Problem is that he will definitely serve the full 8 game suspension now. If he is charged with a DUI the suspension may very well become the full season. He actually seemed to be sincere in saying he was putting all this behind him. Obviously that was not the case. So now he will at least have another four months with nothing to do except get in trouble. I highly doubt he will help anyone this season. And he is on the verge of getting a lifetime ban.(HULK) said:I honestly hope the Skins make a play for him. We need D-line bad enough that I'd put up with his shenanigans.
This is the reason these players have gotten away with so much over the years. I hope nobody picks him up.(HULK) said:I honestly hope the Skins make a play for him. We need D-line bad enough that I'd put up with his shenanigans.
i agree. all 32 teams needs to make a point and not pick this guy upThis is the reason these players have gotten away with so much over the years. I hope nobody picks him up.(HULK) said:I honestly hope the Skins make a play for him. We need D-line bad enough that I'd put up with his shenanigans.
that's not true. While I can't give you a complete answer without doing some research, injury is one reason a player can't be cut but must negotiate an injury settlement.switz said:A team can cut a player anytime they want. The NFLPA has no grounds for a grievance, this wasn't a suspension without pay, it was a cut.QuizGuy66 said:It'll be interesting to see if the NFLPA does anything here. Supposedly the only criteria for cutting a dude is supposed to be talent now. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a grievance here (whether or not there should be)-QG
People don't generally respond well to being accused. There's no way of knowing what went on behind closed doorsAnd so we are going to cut all players that get a Speeding ticket? So far that is all that has been done. If Tank was/had been drinking I really don't think he would of gave up his blood test so easy. He was driving at 3:30 am and could of just been tired. So unless the Bears are going to start punishing players for speeding, then I think this was a dumb move for them to do.That said if he was drunk then it is a different story.
The whole CBA is online for those curious:This is a link to the pdf of the entire CBA for reference. The stuff on Termination is Appendix Gthat's not true. While I can't give you a complete answer without doing some research, injury is one reason a player can't be cut but must negotiate an injury settlement.switz said:A team can cut a player anytime they want. The NFLPA has no grounds for a grievance, this wasn't a suspension without pay, it was a cut.QuizGuy66 said:It'll be interesting to see if the NFLPA does anything here. Supposedly the only criteria for cutting a dude is supposed to be talent now. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a grievance here (whether or not there should be)
-QG
The only thing Tank has done wrong is get a speeding ticket? So the gun charges and probation violation were just figments of everyone's imagination?And so we are going to cut all players that get a Speeding ticket? So far that is all that has been done. If Tank was/had been drinking I really don't think he would of gave up his blood test so easy. He was driving at 3:30 am and could of just been tired. So unless the Bears are going to start punishing players for speeding, then I think this was a dumb move for them to do.That said if he was drunk then it is a different story.
The only thing Tank has done wrong is get a speeding ticket? So the gun charges and probation violation were just figments of everyone's imagination?And so we are going to cut all players that get a Speeding ticket? So far that is all that has been done. If Tank was/had been drinking I really don't think he would of gave up his blood test so easy. He was driving at 3:30 am and could of just been tired. So unless the Bears are going to start punishing players for speeding, then I think this was a dumb move for them to do.That said if he was drunk then it is a different story.
Implied Consent Law. If you refuse a breathalyzer and/or blood test you lose your license for a year.Question: Can a suspended player workout/tryout/visit other teams or is he suspended from all NFL activities?And so we are going to cut all players that get a Speeding ticket? So far that is all that has been done. If Tank was/had been drinking I really don't think he would of gave up his blood test so easy. He was driving at 3:30 am and could of just been tired. So unless the Bears are going to start punishing players for speeding, then I think this was a dumb move for them to do.That said if he was drunk then it is a different story.
It wouldn't be the first time a black man has been pulled over for doing nothing but driving a nice car. Not even close.The only thing Tank has done wrong is get a speeding ticket? So the gun charges and probation violation were just figments of everyone's imagination?And so we are going to cut all players that get a Speeding ticket? So far that is all that has been done. If Tank was/had been drinking I really don't think he would of gave up his blood test so easy. He was driving at 3:30 am and could of just been tired. So unless the Bears are going to start punishing players for speeding, then I think this was a dumb move for them to do.That said if he was drunk then it is a different story.Johnson needed to realize that once Goodell gave him his suspension, he couldn't even afford the appearance of wrong-doing. Even if he wasn't drunk, what was he doing at 3:30 in the morning, driving in a manner that would persuade a police officer to pull him over? He had to understand that he couldn't put himself in that situation again, but he obviously didn't. Now, would the Bears have cut him if he played like Tommie Harris? No. But an average player isn't worth the headaches in this day and age.
Not necessarily.Gibbs may think that he can work with him. Gibbs can be a believer in a "2nd chance".He'll be picked up on waivers by a team fairly early in the process. He may be an idiot, but big DTs who can sack the QB are a rarity. I wish the Skins would claim him, but they won't.
15 miles over the speed limit will do it every time. If it was 3:30 am, it's doubtful the officer could see what color the driver was.It wouldn't be the first time a black man has been pulled over for doing nothing but driving a nice car. Not even close.The only thing Tank has done wrong is get a speeding ticket? So the gun charges and probation violation were just figments of everyone's imagination?And so we are going to cut all players that get a Speeding ticket? So far that is all that has been done. If Tank was/had been drinking I really don't think he would of gave up his blood test so easy. He was driving at 3:30 am and could of just been tired. So unless the Bears are going to start punishing players for speeding, then I think this was a dumb move for them to do.That said if he was drunk then it is a different story.Johnson needed to realize that once Goodell gave him his suspension, he couldn't even afford the appearance of wrong-doing. Even if he wasn't drunk, what was he doing at 3:30 in the morning, driving in a manner that would persuade a police officer to pull him over? He had to understand that he couldn't put himself in that situation again, but he obviously didn't. Now, would the Bears have cut him if he played like Tommie Harris? No. But an average player isn't worth the headaches in this day and age.