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Bears release Tank Johnson (1 Viewer)

That is going to hurt their chances of being a contender even more, but I can understand their reasoning. How far will Pacman have to go before he gets released?

 
That is going to hurt their chances of being a contender even more, but I can understand their reasoning. How far will Pacman have to go before he gets released?
The Jones situation is different. My understanding is that the Titans don't have to pay him a penny until camp starts next season. That's about 14 months for him to get his trials out of the way and try to learn to behave before they are obligated to do much more then get his jerseys out of their pro shop.
 
I'm not so sure this will hurt their chances. Tank was a good player, but he was not relied on too much. He was really a 2nd string DT. The Bears made some moves and I think they were preparing to move on without Tank anyways. This will be a big training camp for Dusty D and Anthohy Adams, one of them can make a nice impact for the Bears.

 
Nice job Tank...I hope you like Canada

This isn't going to help Chicago, but Tommie Harris' health is the key issue in Chicago. If he is fine, their D will be fine.

 
I honestly hope the Skins make a play for him. We need D-line bad enough that I'd put up with his shenanigans.

 
It'll be interesting to see if the NFLPA does anything here. Supposedly the only criteria for cutting a dude is supposed to be talent now. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a grievance here (whether or not there should be)

-QG

 
I honestly hope the Skins make a play for him. We need D-line bad enough that I'd put up with his shenanigans.
depending on the details of this latest incident chances are he might not even play next year. For some reason he convinced me he had changed but I guess I was wrong.
 
It'll be interesting to see if the NFLPA does anything here. Supposedly the only criteria for cutting a dude is supposed to be talent now. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a grievance here (whether or not there should be)-QG
A team can cut a player anytime they want. The NFLPA has no grounds for a grievance, this wasn't a suspension without pay, it was a cut.
 
I stand corrected...however

The exact phrase is:

"You have engage in personal conduct which, in the reasonable judgement of the Club, adversely affects or reflects on the Club."

I believe that this falls under that, however I can see where the NFLPA would believe a conviction were necessary. And given that the prior conviction did not lead to termination that a later arrest wouldn't be enough.

Again, I'm not saying it's correct, and not saying that the NFLPA would do this but, quoting the article about his release, it would seem that the NFLPA might question this standard since there were no charges:

Sgt. Andrew Duncan, a police spokesman, said Johnson was arrested for "DUI Impaired to the Slightest Degree" but was released without being booked or charged.
Link to quote-QG

 
(HULK) said:
I honestly hope the Skins make a play for him. We need D-line bad enough that I'd put up with his shenanigans.
This is the reason these players have gotten away with so much over the years. I hope nobody picks him up.
 
wow he really was on a short leash. i didn't think they'd cut him for this ... i figured it would have to be a bit worse to actually be released.

 
(HULK) said:
I honestly hope the Skins make a play for him. We need D-line bad enough that I'd put up with his shenanigans.
Problem is that he will definitely serve the full 8 game suspension now. If he is charged with a DUI the suspension may very well become the full season. He actually seemed to be sincere in saying he was putting all this behind him. Obviously that was not the case. So now he will at least have another four months with nothing to do except get in trouble. I highly doubt he will help anyone this season. And he is on the verge of getting a lifetime ban.
 
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(HULK) said:
I honestly hope the Skins make a play for him. We need D-line bad enough that I'd put up with his shenanigans.
This is the reason these players have gotten away with so much over the years. I hope nobody picks him up.
:thumbup: I'm a 'Skins fan and I don't want him. It's too easy to get enamored of the skills of guys like this, only to get a rude awakening when they're suspended mid-week during the season and your team is left to scramble to fill the spot they occupied with another player. No thanks, not that I think that Joe would go for it anyway.
 
(HULK) said:
I honestly hope the Skins make a play for him. We need D-line bad enough that I'd put up with his shenanigans.
This is the reason these players have gotten away with so much over the years. I hope nobody picks him up.
i agree. all 32 teams needs to make a point and not pick this guy up
 
Short leash is correct as someone alluded to in an earlier post. I figured Angelo would have at least waited for the blood test results to come in before making a decision. I thought the blood test results were still a couple of weeks away.

Contrary to an earlier post, Tank Johnson can play football and is a very good player. Someone will be willing to take a chance - whenever he returns.

 
Seriously, is a rented limo out of the question for a millionaire? What a boob, goodbye Terry. They gave him way too much rope.

 
And so we are going to cut all players that get a Speeding ticket? So far that is all that has been done. If Tank was/had been drinking I really don't think he would of gave up his blood test so easy. He was driving at 3:30 am and could of just been tired. So unless the Bears are going to start punishing players for speeding, then I think this was a dumb move for them to do.

That said if he was drunk then it is a different story.

 
switz said:
QuizGuy66 said:
It'll be interesting to see if the NFLPA does anything here. Supposedly the only criteria for cutting a dude is supposed to be talent now. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a grievance here (whether or not there should be)-QG
A team can cut a player anytime they want. The NFLPA has no grounds for a grievance, this wasn't a suspension without pay, it was a cut.
that's not true. While I can't give you a complete answer without doing some research, injury is one reason a player can't be cut but must negotiate an injury settlement.
 
And so we are going to cut all players that get a Speeding ticket? So far that is all that has been done. If Tank was/had been drinking I really don't think he would of gave up his blood test so easy. He was driving at 3:30 am and could of just been tired. So unless the Bears are going to start punishing players for speeding, then I think this was a dumb move for them to do.That said if he was drunk then it is a different story.
People don't generally respond well to being accused. There's no way of knowing what went on behind closed doors
 
switz said:
QuizGuy66 said:
It'll be interesting to see if the NFLPA does anything here. Supposedly the only criteria for cutting a dude is supposed to be talent now. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a grievance here (whether or not there should be)

-QG
A team can cut a player anytime they want. The NFLPA has no grounds for a grievance, this wasn't a suspension without pay, it was a cut.
that's not true. While I can't give you a complete answer without doing some research, injury is one reason a player can't be cut but must negotiate an injury settlement.
The whole CBA is online for those curious:This is a link to the pdf of the entire CBA for reference. The stuff on Termination is Appendix G

-QG

 
This is going to look odd if he isn't charged with anything. A decision on filing or not filing charges against him was to be made within 2 weeks if I remember correctly.

Link

 
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And so we are going to cut all players that get a Speeding ticket? So far that is all that has been done. If Tank was/had been drinking I really don't think he would of gave up his blood test so easy. He was driving at 3:30 am and could of just been tired. So unless the Bears are going to start punishing players for speeding, then I think this was a dumb move for them to do.That said if he was drunk then it is a different story.
The only thing Tank has done wrong is get a speeding ticket? So the gun charges and probation violation were just figments of everyone's imagination?
 
And so we are going to cut all players that get a Speeding ticket? So far that is all that has been done. If Tank was/had been drinking I really don't think he would of gave up his blood test so easy. He was driving at 3:30 am and could of just been tired. So unless the Bears are going to start punishing players for speeding, then I think this was a dumb move for them to do.That said if he was drunk then it is a different story.
The only thing Tank has done wrong is get a speeding ticket? So the gun charges and probation violation were just figments of everyone's imagination?
:goodposting: Johnson needed to realize that once Goodell gave him his suspension, he couldn't even afford the appearance of wrong-doing. Even if he wasn't drunk, what was he doing at 3:30 in the morning, driving in a manner that would persuade a police officer to pull him over? He had to understand that he couldn't put himself in that situation again, but he obviously didn't. Now, would the Bears have cut him if he played like Tommie Harris? No. But an average player isn't worth the headaches in this day and age.
 
And so we are going to cut all players that get a Speeding ticket? So far that is all that has been done. If Tank was/had been drinking I really don't think he would of gave up his blood test so easy. He was driving at 3:30 am and could of just been tired. So unless the Bears are going to start punishing players for speeding, then I think this was a dumb move for them to do.That said if he was drunk then it is a different story.
Implied Consent Law. If you refuse a breathalyzer and/or blood test you lose your license for a year.Question: Can a suspended player workout/tryout/visit other teams or is he suspended from all NFL activities?
 
The Score in Chicago reported today that Johnson refused a breathalyzer, so the police acquired a court order for the blood work.

 
IMO Behind the scenes this is a freakin train wreck.

The Bears (McCaskeys) are saving money. period.

 
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He'll be picked up on waivers by a team fairly early in the process. He may be an idiot, but big DTs who can sack the QB are a rarity. I wish the Skins would claim him, but they won't.

 
And so we are going to cut all players that get a Speeding ticket? So far that is all that has been done. If Tank was/had been drinking I really don't think he would of gave up his blood test so easy. He was driving at 3:30 am and could of just been tired. So unless the Bears are going to start punishing players for speeding, then I think this was a dumb move for them to do.That said if he was drunk then it is a different story.
The only thing Tank has done wrong is get a speeding ticket? So the gun charges and probation violation were just figments of everyone's imagination?
:unsure: Johnson needed to realize that once Goodell gave him his suspension, he couldn't even afford the appearance of wrong-doing. Even if he wasn't drunk, what was he doing at 3:30 in the morning, driving in a manner that would persuade a police officer to pull him over? He had to understand that he couldn't put himself in that situation again, but he obviously didn't. Now, would the Bears have cut him if he played like Tommie Harris? No. But an average player isn't worth the headaches in this day and age.
It wouldn't be the first time a black man has been pulled over for doing nothing but driving a nice car. Not even close.
 
He'll be picked up on waivers by a team fairly early in the process. He may be an idiot, but big DTs who can sack the QB are a rarity. I wish the Skins would claim him, but they won't.
Not necessarily.Gibbs may think that he can work with him. Gibbs can be a believer in a "2nd chance".
 
And so we are going to cut all players that get a Speeding ticket? So far that is all that has been done. If Tank was/had been drinking I really don't think he would of gave up his blood test so easy. He was driving at 3:30 am and could of just been tired. So unless the Bears are going to start punishing players for speeding, then I think this was a dumb move for them to do.That said if he was drunk then it is a different story.
The only thing Tank has done wrong is get a speeding ticket? So the gun charges and probation violation were just figments of everyone's imagination?
:moneybag: Johnson needed to realize that once Goodell gave him his suspension, he couldn't even afford the appearance of wrong-doing. Even if he wasn't drunk, what was he doing at 3:30 in the morning, driving in a manner that would persuade a police officer to pull him over? He had to understand that he couldn't put himself in that situation again, but he obviously didn't. Now, would the Bears have cut him if he played like Tommie Harris? No. But an average player isn't worth the headaches in this day and age.
It wouldn't be the first time a black man has been pulled over for doing nothing but driving a nice car. Not even close.
15 miles over the speed limit will do it every time. If it was 3:30 am, it's doubtful the officer could see what color the driver was.
 

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