Statcruncher
Footballguy
It used to be the week before this game was like the last week of school before summer. This week it's like the last week of fall before school. I'm guessing 53 to 24 Packers. Hurry back Jay.
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CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Where did you go, Gridiron Assassin?
FavreAndAwayAnIdiot
Footballguy
Love the Pack and think they'll win a closer game than folks think. Their offensive line is overachieving at a remarkable level right now, which is a huge achievement for this coaching staff who are doing it with smoke and mirrors. I think they come back to Earth a bit this week, but it would be tough to lose to a reeling Bears team.
Packers 24, Bears 17
Packers 24, Bears 17
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Vector
Footballguy
Bears appear to have one of THE worst defenses in the league today. Sure, they still get their turnovers and the occasional TD off of them, but they can't stop anybody from driving straight down the field and scoring whenever they want.
It's kind of depressing actually. Where did the pride go on this Bears defense? They seem to be playing with no heart and only individually to get those aforementioned turnovers.
Maybe this game is what they need defensively to light a fire under their collective butt.
It's kind of depressing actually. Where did the pride go on this Bears defense? They seem to be playing with no heart and only individually to get those aforementioned turnovers.
Maybe this game is what they need defensively to light a fire under their collective butt.
DoubleG
Footballguy
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Statcruncher
Footballguy
Lol, the Bears don't have their starting QB and they're just "a bit" more banged up? And yes, GB has owned Chicago for too long, but other than an inordinate amout of picks GB hasn't really done anything special to him. Due to a combination of bad decisions, poor receiving options, terrible O-line, etc., Cutler has looked pretty meh against many teams.
Here are Cutler's regular season averages for 2009-20012 (against GB and against all opponents) and how he's doing in 2013 so far:
OPP Comp % Yds/Gm TD/INT/% QB Rat Yds/Att
GB 54% 205 8/16/.5% 61 6.5
AO 60% 220 82/63/1.3% 82 7.1
13 65% 237 12/7/1.7% 92 7.4
Highest in Chicago
Career high
The number that really sticks out is the ridiculous 16 interceptions in 7 games. That is complete ownage right there. It's unfortunate that Cutler is out this game because I honestly think the new system, improved receiving targets, and revamped O-line were setting Jay up for his best year.
Before the injury I really thought it would be a 50/50 toss-up on who would win this game. Unfortunately the December 29th game will be meaningless if the Bears can't stop the bleeding and Detroit and GB can't stop winning.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Green Bay missing 2 of its top 3 WRs (if Jones is out again).
Its #1 TE.
Is down multiple LBs (Jones, Perry, Matthews...that were starters and several backups have been dinged up too).
Yes...Cutler being the bigger injury of them all...but overall, Id say yes, just a little more banged up if you look at all of it and that is without even talking about the expected starter in Bulaga.
Cutler has played well...but still was averaging a pick every game.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I get nervous when the bears bring in a backup. Caleb Hene made swiss cheese out of the cheese heads defense not long ago. Plus we can always count on Jay throwing to the green and gold.
GB is not going to lose at home. I believe they have one of the best records at home or one of the longest winning streaks at home in quite some time... Could be wrong but I think it was a stat during a game recently.
42-17 packers
GB is not going to lose at home. I believe they have one of the best records at home or one of the longest winning streaks at home in quite some time... Could be wrong but I think it was a stat during a game recently.
42-17 packers
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Pack receivers still injured, Briggs out and Bostic not playing the run well = Lacy all over the place-y. In your face-y? We'll have to work on that. Anyway, I would expect GB to try and control the clock with running game and it won't be a high-scoring meeting unless Rodgers hits some play action bombs against the Bears' garbage duo at safety.
For laughs, check out the Bears starting lineup last time McCown played in Green Bay. This was less than 2 calendar years ago:
Josh McCown QB Kahlil Bell RB Tyler Clutts FB Earl Bennett WR Roy E. Williams WR Kellen Davis TE J'Marcus Webb LT Eddie Williams LG Roberto Garza C Chris Spencer RG Lance Louis RT
For laughs, check out the Bears starting lineup last time McCown played in Green Bay. This was less than 2 calendar years ago:
Josh McCown QB Kahlil Bell RB Tyler Clutts FB Earl Bennett WR Roy E. Williams WR Kellen Davis TE J'Marcus Webb LT Eddie Williams LG Roberto Garza C Chris Spencer RG Lance Louis RT
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Packers have had his # only because we had no OL and no weapons. Last year Marshall was the only weapon (Jeffrey was injured most of the year). Now we have an OL that actually blocks; 2 stud WRs and a very solid TE that can actually catch (Kellen Davis had more drops than any TE in the league as a starter).
In week 17, we will find out when Cutler carves up the fudge-packers.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Jeffrey was not injurred in at least one game vs. GB...other than his pride when he kept committing offensive pass interference.
But you can keep making excuses for Cutler continually throwing the ball to the Green Bay defense if you want.
GB puts up 30+ easily on this Bears D.
Also funny that you would predict (again) that Chicago would ever carve up the Packers...you have been claiming that for a while now...yet Rodgers keeps beating you and its the two games every year that I have supreme confidence in the scheme Capers will roll out there.
Glad you are back to talking trash too...always more fun. Also glad you stoop to the "fudge-packers" line...its about as interesting as the Seahawks/Rams/9ers fights on this board (squawks, lambs, whiners...)
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
Jeffery played against GB last year. I remember him not even trying to hide his push offs several times.
Second, I believe your OL is the same as last year for the most part
And last, of course the bears will beat the packers week 17. Round 1 bye will be locked up. Enjoy beating on Seneca Wallace.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Lol Caleb Hanie. I could watch a replay of BJ Raji dancing in the end zone at Soldier all day long and never stop laughing.
RBM
Footballguy
SportsGuru311
Footballguy
Should finally have a good monday night game
werdnoynek
Footballguy
I'll be there and while I would have much rather we beat the Bears with Cutler playing, I'll still get my satisfaction... and money's worth.
MNF at Lambeau in November! Doesn't get much better IMO.
MNF at Lambeau in November! Doesn't get much better IMO.
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42 - 17 I hope I'm wrongDitkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I care not about the magnitude of the Bear's defeat, I just care that it happens and that the Packers escape without injury. The Pack must continue to trending towards health.
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
A few thoughts here......
Pack should win, but it's DUH Bearsssssssssssss, anything can happen.
Over/Under on the number of time flapgreen complains about the Bears Defense 32 1/2
Over/under on the number of times RBM whines about the Refs 17 1/2
Will BensonLeadsthe Way show up in the game thread? Yes 150-1 (If the Bears win even money)
Green Bay 31
Chicago 17
Pack should win, but it's DUH Bearsssssssssssss, anything can happen.
Over/Under on the number of time flapgreen complains about the Bears Defense 32 1/2
Over/under on the number of times RBM whines about the Refs 17 1/2
Will BensonLeadsthe Way show up in the game thread? Yes 150-1 (If the Bears win even money)
Green Bay 31
Chicago 17
Statcruncher
Footballguy
The latest injury news I could find on the impact players:
Looks like the Pack will be without their opening day starters at WR, TE, LOLB, ROLB, and have a questionable WR.
Looks like the Bears will be without their opening day starters at QB, WLB, SLB, DT, CB, and have a questionable SS.
ON IR
Melton
Collins
Williams
Cobb
Bulaga
DID NOT PRACTICE
Cutler
Briggs
Costanzo
Tillman
Perry
Matthews - Listed as OUT
Finley - Listed as OUT
LIMITED PRACTICE
Wright
James Jones
Taylor
FULL PARTICIPATION
Brad Jones
Looks like the Pack will be without their opening day starters at WR, TE, LOLB, ROLB, and have a questionable WR.
Looks like the Bears will be without their opening day starters at QB, WLB, SLB, DT, CB, and have a questionable SS.
ON IR
Melton
Collins
Williams
Cobb
Bulaga
DID NOT PRACTICE
Cutler
Briggs
Costanzo
Tillman
Perry
Matthews - Listed as OUT
Finley - Listed as OUT
LIMITED PRACTICE
Wright
James Jones
Taylor
FULL PARTICIPATION
Brad Jones
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Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
According to the official injury report, Tillman participated in a limited capacity while receiver Joe Anderson (abdomen), Costanzo and safety Major Wright (knee) took part in the entire practice.
flapgreen
Footballguy
That fool retired. This game could get ugly quick.
flapgreen
Footballguy
I remember a Bears/Pack Monday night game a few years ago, maybe '08, where the Bears came back from a big deficit on a punt return and I think a pick 6 to win the game. You had a total meltdown. That was a thing of beauty man. The Bears weren't even very good that year.
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
Is it really a rivalry if the same team wins 2x as much as the other? That's like calling UW-MIN a rivalry in college sports, but Wisconsin wins every year
32-16 is the record since 1990. It's just unfair. Almost makes you feel bad for Bears fans... Almost...
32-16 is the record since 1990. It's just unfair. Almost makes you feel bad for Bears fans... Almost...
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
Yeh, Pack/Vikings has been better lately. That game last year in week 17 was a classic...
DoubleG
Footballguy
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RBM
Footballguy
kingmalaki
Footballguy
What are y'all expecting from the Packers D vs the backup QB?
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
solorca
Footballguy
I'm a fan of McCown for this week, at least as a bye week guy. There aren't a lot of Quarterbacks available on the waiver wire that will be throwing to the quality of receivers as he will. Marshall, Jeffery, Forte out of the backfield, and Bennett are all going to be quality options. Green Bay has been solid at shutting down top receivers, but that still leaves a number of good options out there.
I think Green Bay wins, but I am not going to be shocked to see a 300/2TD/2INT line at the end of the day for McCown.
I think Green Bay wins, but I am not going to be shocked to see a 300/2TD/2INT line at the end of the day for McCown.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Based on reading the bulk of the posts in here I'm convinced Chicago will win.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
update?
DoubleG
Footballguy
Honestly, one of the most impressive part of last night's victory for the Bears (and something they have NOT done well) was that final drive that took almost 9 minutes off the clock. The ability for the Bears to run the ball late was huge. They ran 13 times in that 18 play drive - (2 more than that on the two penalties called). It's one thing to run the ball early in the game - it's another to be able to pick up 5+ yards a clip when everyone knows you're just running clock.
While many will rightly point to Aaron Rodgers injury as the reason the Packers lost, that final drive was all the Bears O vs. Packers D - and the Bears took it to them.
While many will rightly point to Aaron Rodgers injury as the reason the Packers lost, that final drive was all the Bears O vs. Packers D - and the Bears took it to them.
FavreAndAwayAnIdiot
Footballguy
Where are all the folks claiming that Green Bay is lucky to have Dom Capers, this week? Where'd they all go? Huh...
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Statcruncher
Footballguy
Sweetness_34 makes me embarrassed to be a Bears fan.
DoubleG
Footballguy
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