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Become an NFL GM or scout? (1 Viewer)

Bri

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http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide.com/c..._footballgm.asp

The Football General Manager and Scouting Course is a fully accredited 8 week online course that offers cutting edge theories on how to develop a career in professional or collegiate Football. The Football General Manager and Scouting Course will cover issues including football operations, team management, scouting talent, player personnel, cutting edge ways of scouting, NFL traditional scouting techniques, studying football on paper, statistical analysis and other essential tools of modern general managers of professional and collegiate football organizations.

 
http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide.com/c..._footballgm.asp

The Football General Manager and Scouting Course is a fully accredited 8 week online course that offers cutting edge theories on how to develop a career in professional or collegiate Football. The Football General Manager and Scouting Course will cover issues including football operations, team management, scouting talent, player personnel, cutting edge ways of scouting, NFL traditional scouting techniques, studying football on paper, statistical analysis and other essential tools of modern general managers of professional and collegiate football organizations.
I will personally award a million dollar prize to the first person to secure an NFL position based on completion of this online course.
 
http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide.com/c..._footballgm.asp

The Football General Manager and Scouting Course is a fully accredited 8 week online course that offers cutting edge theories on how to develop a career in professional or collegiate Football. The Football General Manager and Scouting Course will cover issues including football operations, team management, scouting talent, player personnel, cutting edge ways of scouting, NFL traditional scouting techniques, studying football on paper, statistical analysis and other essential tools of modern general managers of professional and collegiate football organizations.
I will personally award a million dollar prize to the first person to secure an NFL position based on completion of this online course.
Do you have that kinda cash?
 
http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide.com/c..._footballgm.asp

The Football General Manager and Scouting Course is a fully accredited 8 week online course that offers cutting edge theories on how to develop a career in professional or collegiate Football. The Football General Manager and Scouting Course will cover issues including football operations, team management, scouting talent, player personnel, cutting edge ways of scouting, NFL traditional scouting techniques, studying football on paper, statistical analysis and other essential tools of modern general managers of professional and collegiate football organizations.
I will personally award a million dollar prize to the first person to secure an NFL position based on completion of this online course.
Can we get that money held in an escrow account please.Foolish statement you made. There are guys here with the resumes and background to land an NFL position. All they may need is a inside track as to who's hands to get a resume into, which is something this course could easily provide.

 
While I doubt this course leads to many jobs, or most likely any, it wouldn't be totally out of the realm of reality for a succesful businessman/woman or lawyer to get into the biz this way. Especially if they have experience in the sport.

 
I see this course being great for Joe Heisman's brother who wants to be his agent and has zero knowledge of contracts, etc. Other than that, you need to have direct contact with NFL personnel or an agency to land a successful job like being an NFL agent.

1. More than 1,100 agents are registered with the NFL and more than half of those agents don't have a single client.

2. Agents surveyed by ESPN.com agreed that less than 5 percent of all registered agents net more than $100,000 a year (taking 1 percent to 4 percent from contract work and 10 to 20 percent on marketing deals).

Source

 
I see this course being great for Joe Heisman's brother who wants to be his agent and has zero knowledge of contracts, etc. Other than that, you need to have direct contact with NFL personnel or an agency to land a successful job like being an NFL agent.

1. More than 1,100 agents are registered with the NFL and more than half of those agents don't have a single client.

2. Agents surveyed by ESPN.com agreed that less than 5 percent of all registered agents net more than $100,000 a year (taking 1 percent to 4 percent from contract work and 10 to 20 percent on marketing deals).

Source
:thumbup: I know two agents personally, and they are the backbone of the system in that they represent the guys that go undrafted or are drafted in the sixth and seventh rounds. You have to have a day job to afford to represent these type of prospects.This course would be interesting for those who want to get a peek into the reality of the scouting and decision-making process, at least it would based upon the description.

 
How the heck does one get a job in scouting anyway?
Easy you have to be willing to do vile unspeakable acts every night to the coaches 250 pound daughter who has 2 teeth and a very well groom mustache! :X
 
How the heck does one get a job in scouting anyway?
A lot of scouts get their start as an intern with the organization. Those that show potential as a scout can apply when an opening occurs. They already have an inside track, being that they worked in the ticket office, etc. A majority of the time it's not what you know but who you know.

 
How the heck does one get a job in scouting anyway?
A lot of scouts get their start as an intern with the organization. Those that show potential as a scout can apply when an opening occurs. They already have an inside track, being that they worked in the ticket office, etc. A majority of the time it's not what you know but who you know.
Totally agree with the last sentence. Nepotism and cronyism reign. NFL scouting departments are filled with family and childhood friends of front office execs and coaches. However, I wouldn't suggest the teams are as foolish as this sounds, becuase the cronies are often very sharp, very hard working, dedicated their lives to football from a young age, and very good at their job.A background playing and or coaching the game seems to be prerequisite, and no one should complain about that.

 
How the heck does one get a job in scouting anyway?
A lot of scouts get their start as an intern with the organization. Those that show potential as a scout can apply when an opening occurs. They already have an inside track, being that they worked in the ticket office, etc. A majority of the time it's not what you know but who you know.
Totally agree with the last sentence. Nepotism and cronyism reign. NFL scouting departments are filled with family and childhood friends of front office execs and coaches. However, I wouldn't suggest the teams are as foolish as this sounds, becuase the cronies are often very sharp, very hard working, dedicated their lives to football from a young age, and very good at their job.A background playing and or coaching the game seems to be prerequisite, and no one should complain about that.
:goodposting: Being a NFL scout is a grueling job. Watching film for a prospect from Last Chance Cowboy College for the 1,000th time can be overwhelming for some. I would love it personally.

Teams don't just hire joe public because he made a great cup of joe. But if you have the desire to work in NFL scouting, becoming an intern with a team could give you an edge.

 
A friend of mine from high school started out as an intern with Buffalo he is now the Pro Personnel Assistant. Pay is not great but he loves it.

 
A friend of mine from high school started out as an intern with Buffalo he is now the Pro Personnel Assistant. Pay is not great but he loves it.
Hook a FBG up. I'll do whatever he wants w/ his daughter (as mentioned above).
 
A friend of mine from high school started out as an intern with Buffalo he is now the Pro Personnel Assistant.  Pay is not great but he loves it.
Hook a FBG up. I'll do whatever he wants w/ his daughter (as mentioned above).
:D He's only 28
So give us some inside info on Buffalo. Even a juicy nugget on the third string left guard. The more I stick around here the more I find folks who are very well connected to the game.Myself, I grew up with Ray Farmer, who played LBer for the Philly Eagles for a spell before he blew out his knee. Played at Duke, got some All American mention, and was a helluva smart guy. Was a pretty high draft pick. From what I heard, he's doing some work with the Panthers now (NC upbringing). Maybe I should give him a call, I played on the same Senior League baseball team (ages 13-15 in Little League, stay on same team) and always knew him growing up in a town of 10,000 folks. Outstanding person. I'm slowly talking myself into picking up the phone. Not to get a job, maybe just to pick his brain.

 
A friend of mine from high school started out as an intern with Buffalo he is now the Pro Personnel Assistant.  Pay is not great but he loves it.
Hook a FBG up. I'll do whatever he wants w/ his daughter (as mentioned above).
:D He's only 28
So give us some inside info on Buffalo. Even a juicy nugget on the third string left guard. The more I stick around here the more I find folks who are very well connected to the game.Myself, I grew up with Ray Farmer, who played LBer for the Philly Eagles for a spell before he blew out his knee. Played at Duke, got some All American mention, and was a helluva smart guy. Was a pretty high draft pick. From what I heard, he's doing some work with the Panthers now (NC upbringing). Maybe I should give him a call, I played on the same Senior League baseball team (ages 13-15 in Little League, stay on same team) and always knew him growing up in a town of 10,000 folks. Outstanding person. I'm slowly talking myself into picking up the phone. Not to get a job, maybe just to pick his brain.
Do it! :thumbup:
 
A friend of mine from high school started out as an intern with Buffalo he is now the Pro Personnel Assistant.  Pay is not great but he loves it.
Hook a FBG up. I'll do whatever he wants w/ his daughter (as mentioned above).
:D He's only 28
So give us some inside info on Buffalo. Even a juicy nugget on the third string left guard. The more I stick around here the more I find folks who are very well connected to the game.Myself, I grew up with Ray Farmer, who played LBer for the Philly Eagles for a spell before he blew out his knee. Played at Duke, got some All American mention, and was a helluva smart guy. Was a pretty high draft pick. From what I heard, he's doing some work with the Panthers now (NC upbringing). Maybe I should give him a call, I played on the same Senior League baseball team (ages 13-15 in Little League, stay on same team) and always knew him growing up in a town of 10,000 folks. Outstanding person. I'm slowly talking myself into picking up the phone. Not to get a job, maybe just to pick his brain.
Do it! :thumbup:
I'll try
 
Being a Pro Football Scout is a grueling, low paying, thankless, no retirement plan/security job.

You have an area of the country you cover, and spend 10 months a year traveling around that area watching college players.

I have no idea how or why they want to do it. But a FEW make it out of scouting to become personel guys or assistant GMs.

But very few.

And many many of them are former coaches at some level.

Not at all what you think. And on top of it, you could work for the Cowboys and get treated great, or the 49ers and get treated like crap.

No way. Stick w/ Fantasy Football Scouting!

 
http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide.com/c..._footballgm.asp

The Football General Manager and Scouting Course is a fully accredited 8 week online course that offers cutting edge theories on how to develop a career in professional or collegiate Football. The Football General Manager and Scouting Course will cover issues including football operations, team management, scouting talent, player personnel, cutting edge ways of scouting, NFL traditional scouting techniques, studying football on paper, statistical analysis and other essential tools of modern general managers of professional and collegiate football organizations.
I will personally award a million dollar prize to the first person to secure an NFL position based on completion of this online course.
Can we get that money held in an escrow account please.Foolish statement you made. There are guys here with the resumes and background to land an NFL position. All they may need is a inside track as to who's hands to get a resume into, which is something this course could easily provide.
I might have more confidence in the program if they used proper grammar. Hell, even the course title is off - it's either General Manager and Scout Course or General Management and Scouting Course. And how about "cutting edge ways of scouting" ?
 
I will personally award a million dollar prize to the first person to secure an NFL position based on completion of this online course.
What do I get if I'm already an NFL G.M.?
 
http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide.com/c..._footballgm.asp

The Football General Manager and Scouting Course is a fully accredited 8 week online course that offers cutting edge theories on how to develop a career in professional or collegiate Football. The Football General Manager and Scouting Course will cover issues including football operations, team management, scouting talent, player personnel, cutting edge ways of scouting, NFL traditional scouting techniques, studying football on paper, statistical analysis and other essential tools of modern general managers of professional and collegiate football organizations.
I will personally award a million dollar prize to the first person to secure an NFL position based on completion of this online course.
can i have that i writing? if so, you're on!lol

:lmao:

 
How the heck does one get a job in scouting anyway?
A lot of scouts get their start as an intern with the organization. Those that show potential as a scout can apply when an opening occurs. They already have an inside track, being that they worked in the ticket office, etc. A majority of the time it's not what you know but who you know.
Totally agree with the last sentence. Nepotism and cronyism reign. NFL scouting departments are filled with family and childhood friends of front office execs and coaches. However, I wouldn't suggest the teams are as foolish as this sounds, becuase the cronies are often very sharp, very hard working, dedicated their lives to football from a young age, and very good at their job.A background playing and or coaching the game seems to be prerequisite, and no one should complain about that.
:goodposting: Being a NFL scout is a grueling job. Watching film for a prospect from Last Chance Cowboy College for the 1,000th time can be overwhelming for some. I would love it personally.

Teams don't just hire joe public because he made a great cup of joe. But if you have the desire to work in NFL scouting, becoming an intern with a team could give you an edge.
Some good stuff here. Chaos Commish, thanks for qualifying football nepotism. You need to know someone to land those jobs and you must have...MUST HAVE... an extremely high level of experience with the game. In other words you have played, coached or played/coached for most of your life. RARELY will someone with no playing experience end up in those jobs. How can you scout players if you have no idea how to put on thigh pads? If they do, as it will happen from time to time due to the aforementioned nepotism, they are left with the really thankless jobs; trips and such. They will most likely be the Barney Fife of the scouting deparment.

Hey, Barney, there's a kid in JUCO, which is located in God Forsaken, Texas. The nearest airport is 8 hours away. Would you mind flying and driving down to see him during JUCO's practice sessions in August. It should only be about 110 in the shade. Oh, the fleas and prostitues come at no extra charge at the local motor court. The massage bed, though, only takes quarters and the front desk does not keep that type of cash on hand due to the possibility of hold-ups.

It is a grueling job. That job and the job of an agent is also a profession that will put you into situations that test or cross the boundaries of personal ethics and mores, which is the specific reasons I quit doing it.

That online course is a waste. Some random guy that last touched a football in Pop Warner has a better chance of winning the lottery versus landing a scouting department job with the help of that class.

 
That online course is a waste. Some random guy that last touched a football in Pop Warner has a better chance of winning the lottery versus landing a scouting department job with the help of that class.
:dumbanddumbervoice:"Yes!.............So, you're telling me there's a chance!"

:enddumbanddumbervoice:

 
That online course is a waste.  Some random guy that last touched a football in Pop Warner has a better chance of winning the lottery versus landing a scouting department job with the help of that class.
:dumbanddumbervoice:"Yes!.............So, you're telling me there's a chance!"

:enddumbanddumbervoice:
[LloydChristmas]"What was all that one in a million talk?"

[/LloydChristmas]

 
I get email notices from this site a few times a month. These are REAL NFL jobs we're talking about:

"NFL Football Jobs Job Board" <notifiers@teamworkonline.com>

I think I may have stumbled on this site a couple of years ago when I was interested in producing some posters from training camp photos I had taken and was nosing around the NFLPA and NFL lsights for copyright info. If you are interested in finding some work in the NFL, I would highly reccomend signing up for these email updates. Like I said, I get a list of job openings with NFL teams several times a month.

:eek: :thumbup: :banned:

now if anyone gets a job, I like scotch and free tickets :D .

I took the time and copied the listings sent April 7th:

Assistant Equipment Manager - San Francisco 49ers (San Francisco, CA)

[ http://footballjobs.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/r.cfm?i=8662 ]

Suite Sales Manager - Denver Broncos (Denver, CO)

[ http://footballjobs.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/r.cfm?i=8649 ]

Sales Associate - Philadelphia Eagles (Philadelphia, PA)

[ http://footballjobs.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/r.cfm?i=8636 ]

 
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http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide.com/c..._footballgm.asp

The Football General Manager and Scouting Course is a fully accredited 8 week online course that offers cutting edge theories on how to develop a career in professional or collegiate Football. The Football General Manager and Scouting Course will cover issues including football operations, team management, scouting talent, player personnel, cutting edge ways of scouting, NFL traditional scouting techniques, studying football on paper, statistical analysis and other essential tools of modern general managers of professional and collegiate football organizations.
I will personally award a million dollar prize to the first person to secure an NFL position based on completion of this online course.
Can we get that money held in an escrow account please.Foolish statement you made. There are guys here with the resumes and background to land an NFL position. All they may need is a inside track as to who's hands to get a resume into, which is something this course could easily provide.
I might have more confidence in the program if they used proper grammar. Hell, even the course title is off - it's either General Manager and Scout Course or General Management and Scouting Course. And how about "cutting edge ways of scouting" ?
I checked out the site and at $995 I don't think I'll be taking this class anytime soon. You are correct in saying they could better their site by improving the grammar. I got Frank Coyle's draft book a few years back for the first time and the wording in that really turned me off. Still, he's a good read.
 
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A friend of mine from high school started out as an intern with Buffalo he is now the Pro Personnel Assistant. Pay is not great but he loves it.
Hook a FBG up. I'll do whatever he wants w/ his daughter (as mentioned above).
:D He's only 28
So give us some inside info on Buffalo. Even a juicy nugget on the third string left guard. The more I stick around here the more I find folks who are very well connected to the game.Myself, I grew up with Ray Farmer, who played LBer for the Philly Eagles for a spell before he blew out his knee. Played at Duke, got some All American mention, and was a helluva smart guy. Was a pretty high draft pick. From what I heard, he's doing some work with the Panthers now (NC upbringing). Maybe I should give him a call, I played on the same Senior League baseball team (ages 13-15 in Little League, stay on same team) and always knew him growing up in a town of 10,000 folks. Outstanding person. I'm slowly talking myself into picking up the phone. Not to get a job, maybe just to pick his brain.
Do it! :thumbup:
I'll try
Maybe we can get one of the mods to threaten you with Sharkpool banishment if you require additional motivation :excited:

 
I will personally award a million dollar prize to the first person to secure an NFL position based on completion of this online course.
What do I get if I'm already an NFL G.M.?
You can't even get your FANTASY team to .500 more that ONCE in four years, and you want into the NFL?HA!

Maybe now you can trade the REAL Randy Moss for William Green instead of just in a fantasy league. ;)

 
Here are some important tips for becoming an NFL GM:

-Forget the online course, you dont want to be overqualified. Just send your resume and a headshot to the owner of the team.

-Be sure to play up any football experiences you had in High School or Jr. High. Little known fact: most NFL personel played football at some level, even if its gym class it cant hurt.

-To really wow them, include a roster of your fantasy teams. Real go-getters will include a few pages describing stories like the time they picked up Peyton Manning before anybody ever heard of him.

-Get yourself an interview. Best way to do this is to find out where the owner goes to church or gets his hair cut and 'bump into' him on his way out.

-Spend the interview talking about how big a fan of the team you are. If you've painted letters on your chest during games with sub-zero temperatures, you're basically a shoe-in. Owners like dedication.

-Follow up! This can be as simple as just showing up to training camp wearing shorts that are a size too small, a team polo, and a whistle. Remember, a good GM shows innitiative, plus he's not afraid to get his hands dirty. Impress your head coach by making it clear you plan on overseeing every practice, meeting, and workout.

-Send me $50,000 for reading this advice.

 
Here are some important tips for becoming an NFL GM:

-Forget the online course, you dont want to be overqualified. Just send your resume and a headshot to the owner of the team.

-Be sure to play up any football experiences you had in High School or Jr. High. Little known fact: most NFL personel played football at some level, even if its gym class it cant hurt.

-To really wow them, include a roster of your fantasy teams. Real go-getters will include a few pages describing stories like the time they picked up Peyton Manning before anybody ever heard of him.

-Get yourself an interview. Best way to do this is to find out where the owner goes to church or gets his hair cut and 'bump into' him on his way out.

-Spend the interview talking about how big a fan of the team you are. If you've painted letters on your chest during games with sub-zero temperatures, you're basically a shoe-in. Owners like dedication.

-Follow up! This can be as simple as just showing up to training camp wearing shorts that are a size too small, a team polo, and a whistle. Remember, a good GM shows innitiative, plus he's not afraid to get his hands dirty. Impress your head coach by making it clear you plan on overseeing every practice, meeting, and workout.

-Send me $50,000 for reading this advice.
Thanks!!! is paypal OK????
 

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