Donald Brown. I think he is the more talented and healthier option.
- this myth that Brown is some talented runner is ridiculous... he looked good against crap in college.We'll see. I've seen the guy play and hes has pretty good skills combined with a low center of gravity. Apparently I'm not alone on this island as he ws drafted ahead of Wells last April. But hey, if I'm wrong, I guess you can go ahead and add my quote to your sig.Donald Brown. I think he is the more talented and healthier option.- this myth that Brown is some talented runner is ridiculous... he looked good against crap in college.

For the sake of argument do you think he will beat out Addai because Addai is mediocre?Tigerbot Hesh said:I'd take Brown. I trust the Colts' coaching staff and scouts to make the right call on this one.
Ridiculous? Really? Brown played against some very good defenses last year. South Florida, West Virginia, Louisville, Pitt, Rutgers and Cinnci were all in the top 50 in rush yards allowed. Add to that the fact that UConn had ZERO passing game, and most defense were keying in on the run. We can debate who is more talented, Brown or Wells. But to say Brown is not a talented runner is, well, ridiculous.switz said:Buffaloes said:Donald Brown. I think he is the more talented and healthier option.- this myth that Brown is some talented runner is ridiculous... he looked good against crap in college.
They didn't face anyone good either... come on, everyone knows he played against lower tier competition.Ridiculous? Really? Brown played against some very good defenses last year. South Florida, West Virginia, Louisville, Pitt, Rutgers and Cinnci were all in the top 50 in rush yards allowed. Add to that the fact that UConn had ZERO passing game, and most defense were keying in on the run. We can debate who is more talented, Brown or Wells. But to say Brown is not a talented runner is, well, ridiculous.switz said:Buffaloes said:Donald Brown. I think he is the more talented and healthier option.- this myth that Brown is some talented runner is ridiculous... he looked good against crap in college.
I just think Brown is more talented of the two. It's not so much about Addai being mediocre; there's a lot of teams that would be happy to have him. But I think Brown will be the starter by the end of the year, with Addai playing the third-down role.For the sake of argument do you think he will beat out Addai because Addai is mediocre?Tigerbot Hesh said:I'd take Brown. I trust the Colts' coaching staff and scouts to make the right call on this one.
If Brown is more talented than Addai, its only by the tiniest of fractions. Unlike Edge, the Colts should be able to afford to extend Addai's contract. Wells is more talented than either, but he doesnt get to play for the Colts. In a non-ppr this isnt that close IMO. Of course PPR changes these and other RB values greatly. Wells has to develop his receiving skills from the ground up to become a PPR back.Crippler said:Give me Wells in dynasty and redraft. I think he is more talented and as the previous poster put. We have Tim Hightower and his 2.9 to Joseph Addai as the incumbents. Addai could be in Browns way for a few years.
If this is true why would Indy draft him? Seems like they would pass on Brown in the 1st if they didn't feel he was talented.They didn't face anyone good either... come on, everyone knows he played against lower tier competition.Ridiculous? Really? Brown played against some very good defenses last year. South Florida, West Virginia, Louisville, Pitt, Rutgers and Cinnci were all in the top 50 in rush yards allowed. Add to that the fact that UConn had ZERO passing game, and most defense were keying in on the run. We can debate who is more talented, Brown or Wells. But to say Brown is not a talented runner is, well, ridiculous.switz said:Buffaloes said:Donald Brown. I think he is the more talented and healthier option.- this myth that Brown is some talented runner is ridiculous... he looked good against crap in college.
I would call the talent question a draw.I generally like an Indy RB better than I do a Zona RB. But I think it may take a season or two for Brown to get enough of the Indy pie to surpass Wells.So unless you can stomach Brown for a season or two of RBBC, I'd take Wells. He has the shortest and easiest path to a bellcow gig.inzanitee said:I think Wells is much more talented, but in ppr it's closer. Hightower is no Addai though, so the path to the starting gig is easier for Wells.
Brown had a better 40 and a better vert.....Wells had more reps a better broad jump..... Wells is taller has bigger hands and better arm lenght.....so really does Brown have better combine numbers?1) Brown had better Combine numbers (the myth that he isn't physically talented and Wells is makes no sense)
2) Brown had better college production
3) Brown demonstrated durability in college--Wells did not.
4) Brown has demonstrated talent in the first two preseason games against opposing team starters; Wells has been injured already. If you can't stay healthy, you can't last long in the NFL and you can't hold the starting job if you do get it.
5) Brown has a great character; Wells? not so much.
6) Brown was drafted before Wells--which tells you that the NFL experts think he is better.
7) Brown plays in a better offensive system overall and one that is more likely to run more than AZ.
The only advantage that I see is the competition, and many of us are skeptical that Addai can effectively hold Brown off for that long and the fact that IND drafted Brown suggests that the organization has some questions about Addai.
Just let the Brown misinformation keep coming...Brown had a better 40 and a better vert.....Wells had more reps a better broad jump..... Wells is taller has bigger hands and better arm lenght.....so really does Brown have better combine numbers?1) Brown had better Combine numbers (the myth that he isn't physically talented and Wells is makes no sense)
2) Brown had better college production against weaker competition
3) Brown demonstrated durability in college--Wells did not.
4) Brown has demonstrated talent in the first two preseason games against opposing team starters; Wells has been injured already. If you can't stay healthy, you can't last long in the NFL and you can't hold the starting job if you do get it.
5) Brown has a great character; Wells? not so much.
6) Brown was drafted before Wells--which tells you that the NFL experts one team think he is better.
7) Brown plays in a better offensive system overall and one that is more likely to run more than AZ.
The only advantage that I see is the competition, and many of us are skeptical that Addai can effectively hold Brown off for that long and the fact that IND drafted Brown suggests that the organization has some questions about Addai.
also, on point 6, i'm not sure the difference between their respective draft slot is that significant... its not like brown went in the top 10, or even the top 20...because a team takes a RB slightly higher, doesn't mean all teams would (some teams could have different grades but just not need a RB there, so we will never know)... ironically, ARI was thought to prefer brown... the saints & i think one other team were reportedly considering trading up to snare wells (but that may have only been after brown went off the board first... perhaps they also coveted brown most?)...Brown had a better 40 and a better vert.....Wells had more reps a better broad jump..... Wells is taller has bigger hands and better arm lenght.....so really does Brown have better combine numbers?1) Brown had better Combine numbers (the myth that he isn't physically talented and Wells is makes no sense)
2) Brown had better college production
3) Brown demonstrated durability in college--Wells did not.
4) Brown has demonstrated talent in the first two preseason games against opposing team starters; Wells has been injured already. If you can't stay healthy, you can't last long in the NFL and you can't hold the starting job if you do get it.
5) Brown has a great character; Wells? not so much.
6) Brown was drafted before Wells--which tells you that the NFL experts think he is better.
7) Brown plays in a better offensive system overall and one that is more likely to run more than AZ.
The only advantage that I see is the competition, and many of us are skeptical that Addai can effectively hold Brown off for that long and the fact that IND drafted Brown suggests that the organization has some questions about Addai.
Curious league set-up where you have to drop rookies.Non-PPR, I'd go Wells, who should be the feature back sooner rather than later. Brown is more likely to be RBBC but I'd go his way in PPR.who would you rather have??? i really think both will be starter by week 4.....if Beenie can stay healthy.... i have them both right now but need to drop 1. Standard scoring non ppr...
Your information isn't quite right according to this site; what was your source?http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/combine/rb.htmlBrown had a better 40 and a better vert.....Wells had more reps a better broad jump..... Wells is taller has bigger hands and better arm lenght.....so really does Brown have better combine numbers?1) Brown had better Combine numbers (the myth that he isn't physically talented and Wells is makes no sense)
2) Brown had better college production
3) Brown demonstrated durability in college--Wells did not.
4) Brown has demonstrated talent in the first two preseason games against opposing team starters; Wells has been injured already. If you can't stay healthy, you can't last long in the NFL and you can't hold the starting job if you do get it.
5) Brown has a great character; Wells? not so much.
6) Brown was drafted before Wells--which tells you that the NFL experts think he is better.
7) Brown plays in a better offensive system overall and one that is more likely to run more than AZ.
The only advantage that I see is the competition, and many of us are skeptical that Addai can effectively hold Brown off for that long and the fact that IND drafted Brown suggests that the organization has some questions about Addai.
Great question. Anyone have an answer?Is Beaner playing tonight or his he just a myth, cuase Timmayyyyhh is lookin good so far.
size is a hugely important part of "athleticism." wells has fantastic numbers given his size.i really dont understand how you can bag on wells "character." ive never heard anything remotely negative about him. i live in ohio so i get inundated with osu news and ever since he was a freshman he had a great reputation, esp as a hard worker.point 6 is absurd. one team picked brown 4 spots ahead of wells. you have no idea what the consensus among "nfl experts" is. heywood-bey went ahead of crabtree, does that proof he has more talent?anyway, i like wells more for fantasy given his draft spot. he has more upside that brown who is gonna be in a committee and likely wont get the gl looks. of course wells may a bunch of dumb injuries and never play. but if hes gonna be your 4th or 5th rb i think hes worth the risk.in terms of real life football. i think i would prefer brown bc of the durability issues. again, i still think wells has more upside. 6'1 and 235 with that sort of athleticism is absurd.1) Brown had better Combine numbers (the myth that he isn't physically talented and Wells is makes no sense)2) Brown had better college production3) Brown demonstrated durability in college--Wells did not.4) Brown has demonstrated talent in the first two preseason games against opposing team starters; Wells has been injured already. If you can't stay healthy, you can't last long in the NFL and you can't hold the starting job if you do get it.5) Brown has a great character; Wells? not so much.6) Brown was drafted before Wells--which tells you that the NFL experts think he is better.7) Brown plays in a better offensive system overall and one that is more likely to run more than AZ.The only advantage that I see is the competition, and many of us are skeptical that Addai can effectively hold Brown off for that long and the fact that IND drafted Brown suggests that the organization has some questions about Addai.
MrSoup said:I've noticed similarities in the way that Switz dislikes Brown just as much as Chris Johnson at this time last year.
I didn't dislike Johnson last year... I poked fun at the hype he was getting, but I thought he was a good prospect all along. Just because someone doesn't think a player is going to get 1800 yards and 17 TDs (which he didn't) doesn't mean a guy hates a player. I drafted him in every league I was in last year. I actually traded up to get him in my dynasty league.Yep. Wells cannot stay on the field during TC and couldn't in college, what makes Wells' backers think he can withstand a full NFL season?Wells is made of glass, Brown by a country mile.
There is no question that the talent Brown played against was far weaker, however, Brown was the only option teams put their entire focus on stopping and was still excellent. Beanie's concern was all his nagging injuries and here he is with another injury and then he re injures it. If this isn;t a red flag then you are not looking at what is in front of you.My opinion is based 100% of what I have read (and interpreted) and not with my eyes so take it for what its worthDonald Brown. I think he is the more talented and healthier option.- this myth that Brown is some talented runner is ridiculous... he looked good against crap in college.
Agreed with that. Wells being injury prone is the biggest argument for Brown over Wells. Brown was very durable in college.I think Brown faces much stiffer competition for carries than Wells, but that's only if both are on the field. Hightower isn't that good, and Addai has been solid in 2 out of 3 seasons. Addai too has durability issues, which carried over form college, much like Wells. However, when Wells or Addai are healthy, they are both better than Brown. So if you're drafting on talent alone, take Wells. But if you are concerned about the injuries, take Brown.There is no question that the talent Brown played against was far weaker, however, Brown was the only option teams put their entire focus on stopping and was still excellent. Beanie's concern was all his nagging injuries and here he is with another injury and then he re injures it. If this isn;t a red flag then you are not looking at what is in front of you.My opinion is based 100% of what I have read (and interpreted) and not with my eyes so take it for what its worthDonald Brown. I think he is the more talented and healthier option.- this myth that Brown is some talented runner is ridiculous... he looked good against crap in college.
you know, we kept hearing the same thing about DeAngelo Williams and how bad he was, etc..Hightower has looked all-world so far.yeah,it's preseason...but I'm just saying that HightowerAgreed with that. Wells being injury prone is the biggest argument for Brown over Wells. Brown was very durable in college.I think Brown faces much stiffer competition for carries than Wells, but that's only if both are on the field. Hightower isn't that good, and Addai has been solid in 2 out of 3 seasons. Addai too has durability issues, which carried over form college, much like Wells. However, when Wells or Addai are healthy, they are both better than Brown. So if you're drafting on talent alone, take Wells. But if you are concerned about the injuries, take Brown.There is no question that the talent Brown played against was far weaker, however, Brown was the only option teams put their entire focus on stopping and was still excellent. Beanie's concern was all his nagging injuries and here he is with another injury and then he re injures it. If this isn;t a red flag then you are not looking at what is in front of you.My opinion is based 100% of what I have read (and interpreted) and not with my eyes so take it for what its worthDonald Brown. I think he is the more talented and healthier option.- this myth that Brown is some talented runner is ridiculous... he looked good against crap in college.
It's not like Addai is Jim Brown here. He was only at 3.5 ypc last year, only scored five rushing TDs (as compared to ten from Hightower), and was banged up. Plus his YPC declined dramatically from year one to year two of his career and from year two to year three. He's not exactly on a strong career trajectory. Pair that with reports that Caldwell has been loving Donald Brown, and I'll take Brown over an injury-prone Beanie Weels.Give me Wells in dynasty and redraft. I think he is more talented and as the previous poster put. We have Tim Hightower and his 2.9 to Joseph Addai as the incumbents. Addai could be in Browns way for a few years.
In the games I watched, Brown has looked much more explosive to me than Addai. While Addai looks better than he has over the last 2 years, Brown looks like he's a threat to break a big gain on almost every touch. Addai is probably a better overall back currently (blocking and blitz pickups, etc), but he doesn't look like the better runner to me - just myAgreed with that. Wells being injury prone is the biggest argument for Brown over Wells. Brown was very durable in college.I think Brown faces much stiffer competition for carries than Wells, but that's only if both are on the field. Hightower isn't that good, and Addai has been solid in 2 out of 3 seasons. Addai too has durability issues, which carried over form college, much like Wells. However, when Wells or Addai are healthy, they are both better than Brown. So if you're drafting on talent alone, take Wells. But if you are concerned about the injuries, take Brown.There is no question that the talent Brown played against was far weaker, however, Brown was the only option teams put their entire focus on stopping and was still excellent. Beanie's concern was all his nagging injuries and here he is with another injury and then he re injures it. If this isn;t a red flag then you are not looking at what is in front of you.My opinion is based 100% of what I have read (and interpreted) and not with my eyes so take it for what its worthDonald Brown. I think he is the more talented and healthier option.- this myth that Brown is some talented runner is ridiculous... he looked good against crap in college.

I understand what you are sayinga and agree the light goes on for a lot of players after a fairly significant amount of time in the NFL - but watching Hightower and Williams is completely different. Williams is light years, IMO, ahead of Hightower. If your point was just to show that Hightower might be better because of the competition, then I agree.you know, we kept hearing the same thing about DeAngelo Williams and how bad he was, etc..Hightower has looked all-world so far.yeah,it's preseason...but I'm just saying that HightowerAgreed with that. Wells being injury prone is the biggest argument for Brown over Wells. Brown was very durable in college.I think Brown faces much stiffer competition for carries than Wells, but that's only if both are on the field. Hightower isn't that good, and Addai has been solid in 2 out of 3 seasons. Addai too has durability issues, which carried over form college, much like Wells. However, when Wells or Addai are healthy, they are both better than Brown. So if you're drafting on talent alone, take Wells. But if you are concerned about the injuries, take Brown.There is no question that the talent Brown played against was far weaker, however, Brown was the only option teams put their entire focus on stopping and was still excellent. Beanie's concern was all his nagging injuries and here he is with another injury and then he re injures it. If this isn;t a red flag then you are not looking at what is in front of you.My opinion is based 100% of what I have read (and interpreted) and not with my eyes so take it for what its worthDonald Brown. I think he is the more talented and healthier option.- this myth that Brown is some talented runner is ridiculous... he looked good against crap in college.
might have a bit of Williams - Williams didn't start producing until J. Stewart arrived , and perhaps the same will happen with Hightower now with Wells hanging around...I wouldn't be so quick to summarily dismiss Hightower just because Wells is in town...
the deal between Addai and Brown won't amount to a hill of beans if that Indy O-line doesn't shape up, they've looked dreadful so far..the Colts look like they'll struggle ( mightily) to run the ball this season...
Better than looking crappy against crappy team no? I mean, it isn't like you have a lack of performance to base you opinion on here. You are simply speculating. Jerry Rice racked up a lot of yards against crappy college teams too.Donald Brown. I think he is the more talented and healthier option.- this myth that Brown is some talented runner is ridiculous... he looked good against crap in college.
Switz, everyone knows that it's not that you're so anti-Brown as much as you're pro-Addai. Anything you say about Brown can be taken with a grain of salt.Donald Brown. I think he is the more talented and healthier option.- this myth that Brown is some talented runner is ridiculous... he looked good against crap in college.
Drafted last night and the question basically boiled down to Beanie or Darren McFadden in Rd7 as my 4th RB. I chose McFadden and then was able to take Donald Brown in Rd 10 as RB5.Better than looking crappy against crappy team no? I mean, it isn't like you have a lack of performance to base you opinion on here. You are simply speculating. Jerry Rice racked up a lot of yards against crappy college teams too.Donald Brown. I think he is the more talented and healthier option.- this myth that Brown is some talented runner is ridiculous... he looked good against crap in college.
I'm a Colts fan, first and foremost. If Brown is a better RB than Addai, then I hope the Colts are smart enough to start Brown over Addai.My take on Brown has nothing to do with Addai, and my opinion of him was formed prior to him going to the Colts.Switz, everyone knows that it's not that you're so anti-Brown as much as you're pro-Addai. Anything you say about Brown can be taken with a grain of salt.Donald Brown. I think he is the more talented and healthier option.- this myth that Brown is some talented runner is ridiculous... he looked good against crap in college.
Sorry, given your past with Addai, I don't believe that for one second.I'm a Colts fan, first and foremost. If Brown is a better RB than Addai, then I hope the Colts are smart enough to start Brown over Addai.My take on Brown has nothing to do with Addai, and my opinion of him was formed prior to him going to the Colts.Switz, everyone knows that it's not that you're so anti-Brown as much as you're pro-Addai. Anything you say about Brown can be taken with a grain of salt.Donald Brown. I think he is the more talented and healthier option.- this myth that Brown is some talented runner is ridiculous... he looked good against crap in college.
If anything, I tend to overly discount performances against weak college teams, so you can take my view of Brown with a grain of salt for that reason.
SorrySorry, given your past with Addai, I don't believe that for one second.I'm a Colts fan, first and foremost. If Brown is a better RB than Addai, then I hope the Colts are smart enough to start Brown over Addai.My take on Brown has nothing to do with Addai, and my opinion of him was formed prior to him going to the Colts.Switz, everyone knows that it's not that you're so anti-Brown as much as you're pro-Addai. Anything you say about Brown can be taken with a grain of salt.Donald Brown. I think he is the more talented and healthier option.- this myth that Brown is some talented runner is ridiculous... he looked good against crap in college.
If anything, I tend to overly discount performances against weak college teams, so you can take my view of Brown with a grain of salt for that reason.
But if you dig up posts on the rookie runners from before the draft, you'll see I was pretty down on all the RBs but Moreno and Wells. Really, my opinion was formed re: Brown much prior to the draft.